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2020 Presidential Election -- Biden v Trump: Sleepy Joe vs Dopey Don [Results begin on page 409]


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Posted
1 hour ago, thepop said:

 

Ballots returned as a percentage of ballots requested:

Party - Dems 82%, Rep 70.6%, No Party: 72.6%.  

Age - 18-24 : 65/3%

       - 25-34 : 69.7%

      - 35-44 73.5%

     - 45-55 : 75.6%

    - 56 to 65: 80.5%

   - 66+ : 85.1%  

 

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At this point, any mail in ballots should be deposited directly at drop boxes. 

Posted
4 minutes ago, G650 said:

Dude, most of us are right of center.

In a sane world I’d be considered conservative since I believe in an objective reality and morality — I’ll have none of that moral relativism that I heard so much about years ago.
 

Interpretations may vary, but right is right, wrong is wrong, and truth is truth. This statement can’t be squared with the current Trump movement. To embrace this movement is to reject the very foundations any functioning society. Policy isn’t even a relevant discussion since we’ve gone full Pontius Pilate “what is truth?”

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I’m really not comfortable with Hanen’s characterization of this, even if he allows the votes that have already been cast to stand. I’m guessing here, but I get the feeling that he thinks drive through voting is illegal and that local authorities overstepped their bounds. That’s fucking bullshit and no reasonable interpretation of the law could lead one to think that.

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not me, I'm a lefty commie pinko. Or is it pinko commie? I'm old enough to know the term, but not old enough to have lived it. most US policy, even democratic, is right of center. It's dumb and needs to change.

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Posted (edited)
7 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

On this board- certainly.  In the real world?  Tomorrow- 45% +/- of your fellow American's are going to go out and vote for them. There's not a single bit of representation of that on this site.  not a centrist position. I'm willing to hear arguments that it's the correct position, but not that it's the centrist position.  

Actually Trump will get about 65M votes tomorrow, there are 255M voting age citizens, so more like 25% +/- of 18+ year old Americans are going to vote for Trump. 

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Posted
48 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

I'm not sure it's wholly meritless.

Apparently, the Election Code provides that polling places must have workers that will come out to cars so that disabled and unhealthy people need not come into the polling place.  That is legal, but restricted to disabled and unhealthy people.

However, Harris County doesn't do drive through voting at regular polling places, so arguably it's not impacted by the Election Code.

It may not be a strong argument, but it is facially plausible.  As is the interpretation that if voting in your car is not done at a regular walk-in polling place, then it's not restricted to the infirm.

 

The remedy of throwing out votes cast in good faith compliance with the law is fucking bullshit of the purest ray serene.  That is utter dogshit.

Their contention is that the shelter of tents was approved as voting "inside a structure".

I'm sorry, but if a county goes to great lengths to work with the SoS and election officials to approve polling procedures, then that's it.  Game over.  Except in 2020.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Mole said:

In a sane world I’d be considered conservative since I believe in an objective reality and morality

Unfortunately that ship has sailed.

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Posted
3 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

I don't think I'll ever get over that this is the song that he plays.  That song is about staying in shape so you can suck more dick.  Also, apparently the cop in the village people is nuts, and he's the one that wrote the lyrics, the rest of the village people don't get a say in whether or not that song plays.

Posted
1 minute ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

I'm apparently going to have to lookup what "center" means. I don't think I have the correct definition anymore

 

Sounds like you probably should

Posted
26 minutes ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

The 20k they estimate might use the drive through voting tomorrow (depending on ruling) .... smdh. Harris County made early voting as accessible as humanly possible including multiple 24hr locations.  There was no reason to be waiting until election day other than you like waiting in lines.  But who likes waiting in lines in a car??? no one

So you've never been to Chick Fil-A?

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Posted
Just now, Red Five said:

Son of a bitch is sitting there thinking about how he's going to kill God. 

right? wonder where it falls in priority, such an ambitious agenda...

"Joe Biden and the Democrat Socialists will kill your jobs, dismantle your police departments, dissolve your borders, release criminal aliens, raise your taxes, confiscate your guns, end fracking, destroy your suburbs, and drive God from the public square." - DJT

 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, The Dog said:

Stop. You are wasting your time with this crowd.

Clearly. But, like I said- I'm a contrarian.  People in my real life think I'm some sort of whacked out liberal b/c I say things like- maybe the black and brown people have a point about shitty access to the same America the rest of us get, or that Trump guys strikes me as a reprobate and I'm not going to vote for someone who I think is a reprobate, or Michael Barry is pond scum (or Sean Hannity) and I'd rather stab myself with an ice pick than listen to either of them ask someone one more time when they stopped beating their wife, etc and so forth.  And yet, I manage to be married to a Democrat, the favorite person of my FIL who is a democrat, have meaningful relationships with multiple different millennial Democrats and still be tolerated and in some cases loved by people literally driving at the head of the Trump caravan.  And I've even talked politics with all of them!  Because I can listen respectfully and think about their position! And at the end of the day we don't even have to agree- we just have to know that we love each other and we both want the best for the other in particular and the country in general.

Which is something I'd say we have about 80% in common with each other in America. Are there some shit heads who don't care about their fellow man and don't care about the country?  Sure. But there's really not all that many of them out there, they are pretty miserable people, and I'd bet almost nobody here associates with them in any real way.  The rest of the people out there want what's best for themselves, what's best for their own, and then what's best for their country, in that order of priority.  

Posted
Just now, Helobious said:

What does “no standing for plaintiffs” mean exactly?

People can only bring lawsuits if they have a personal stake in the case (with very few exceptions). That's called standing. If you don't have standing court's can't hear the case. That's about as simple as I can explain it.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Clearly.

I mean most of our posts are wastes of time probably but I appreciate what you have to say. For whatever that's worth.

Posted
16 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

There's not a single bit of representation of that on this site.

sure there is.  it's just over in DT and the football board grievance-signaling about "SJW" and "wokeness"

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Posted
1 minute ago, 1978horn said:

So can they appeal or is it over?   *not a lawyer

they said they would, but that Raffi dude thinks they'll get denied on all appeals.

Posted
1 minute ago, 1978horn said:

So can they appeal or is it over?   *not a lawyer

Yes, the standing issue can be appealed. It looks like he put on record what he would have ruled had he found standing, so that leaves two hurdles for the appealing parties to overcome. The 5th circuit is pretty conservative so I wouldn't put it past them.

Posted
1 minute ago, cactusflinthead said:

Learn us on this 

I wouldn’t call it lazy, it’s just the easiest and cleanest way to dump a bullshit lawsuit. Essentially it’s saying “you shouldn’t even be here”. Very hard to appeal.

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Posted
5 minutes ago, Helobious said:

What does “no standing for plaintiffs” mean exactly?

To put it in layman’s terms: the Texas GOP is a bunch of Karens that just got told to mind their own damned business.

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