2020 Presidential Election -- Biden v Trump: Sleepy Joe vs Dopey Don [Results begin on page 409]

[Biff Tannen 45,694]

3 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

The senate races will all go the same way as the presidential in those states. Trumps getting worked like a speed bag all throughout the country. It’s not really a concern if I’m a Dem. 

Aye, but you're NOT a dem.  So it's a concern to me.  Plus, I'm still not sure I totally trust your intentions.  

Edited November 3, 2020 by Biff Tannen

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

These GOP fucks are fascists and they cheat. That’s a reasonable reason for concern IMO. 

[Francisco 2.0 32,395]

Fuck. All. Of. Them.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/03/trump-family-political-dynasty-433895

 

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The official said a question has lingered over some of his conversations with the couple: “Will things go back to ‘normal?’”

“Will I go to the Hamptons, or Silicon Valley, or you name it?” the person said. “My sense is that it’s going to be very difficult to go back to that life domestically, but there will be extraordinary new opportunities in the international space.”

 

[heso 2,813]

11 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

And, take the people putting in a Trump breakfast order and fire them, castigate them and try to make them a non human. That’s what I have learned from reading my betters on this board. If you don’t take this opportunity to cull the herd you are a terrible human being. Just ask brisket. You are a Nazi enabler. 

I voted for Biden. if Trump wins I want eggs Benedict. If Biden wins I want a bacon egg and cheese on an everything bagel. See how that works?

[Mrs Whiggins 13,050]

12 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

And, take the people putting in a Trump breakfast order and fire them, castigate them and try to make them a non human. That’s what I have learned from reading my betters on this board. If you don’t take this opportunity to cull the herd you are a terrible human being. Just ask brisket. You are a Nazi enabler. 

C'mon man.

Maybe get out the tent for old times' sake and not watch the results for awhile. Snuggling in cold(ish) weather leads to more positive things than the path those words above express.

[Wulaw Horn 19,133]

4 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Aye, but you're NOT a dem.  So it's a concern to me.  Plus, I'm still not sure I totally trust your intentions.  

My credibility on this board as a prognosticator is at stake. I would never ever ever dream of monkeying with that. It’s much more important than any sense of partisanship. 

[Goredho 17,412]

5 minutes ago, RPM said:

 

Stand back and stand by, Captain Willard.  You may need to take a PBR up the Potomac to terminate President Kurt’s command.

[elguapo 4,586]

And, take the people putting in a Trump breakfast order and fire them, castigate them and try to make them a non human. That’s what I have learned from reading my betters on this board. If you don’t take this opportunity to cull the herd you are a terrible human being. Just ask brisket. You are a Nazi enabler. 

[Pescado_Rojo 19,426]

All this breakfast talk is making me hungry. Welp, I'm off to get breakfast tacos! 

[Wulaw Horn 19,133]

4 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

C'mon man.

Maybe get out the tent for old times' sake and not watch the results for awhile. Snuggling in cold(ish) weather leads to more positive things than the path those words above express.

Those aren’t my words. That’s what I’ve been arguing against on this board for a month- I believe we can disagree without wrecking relationships but I’ve been told, repeatedly that makes me evil and a nazi sympathizer. 
I don’t see you castigating people that are screaming that viewpoint the loudest on here.  
And I like you btw. You are the human embodiment of what American politics should be about as we relate to each other. Thank you for that. Truly. 

Edited November 3, 2020 by Wulaw Horn

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, heso said:

I voted for Biden. if Trump wins I want eggs Benedict. If Biden wins I want a bacon egg and cheese on an everything bagel. See how that works?

Regardless of party, that's pretty fucking funny on both counts.

[Aqua Buddha 14,599]

5 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Fuck. All. Of. Them.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/03/trump-family-political-dynasty-433895

 

 

Read a long article yesterday:

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/11/09/why-trump-cant-afford-to-lose

In short, he doesn't have many options, which is why he's so desperate to win.  There are looming criminal charges but even if they go away, he owes a staggering amount of money on underperforming assets.  With news that Deutsche Bank wants to unload him (link below), he's backed into a real corner.  The New Yorker article gets into media opportunities and they said he could take over Rush Limbaugh's spot when he dies.  (Nonsense.  Radio is a lot of work and Trump is lazy.)  That leaves him with international work, which means he's basically in exile.  He'll be doing shitty real estate deals in Turkey or something.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/524164-deutsche-bank-seeking-to-offload-three-trump-loans-report

[Old Freak Nasty 821]

Like a Trump loss today means anything in regards to the Trump political future.  The 2024 GOP candidate will be Trump Jr.  4 years of Trump news network is going to be shouting it to base.  A polished turd like Tom Cotton has no fucking shot at it even though he thinks he's in prime position once Cheeto endorses his son (if he's still around, that is).

['stache 21,825]

Line at my polling station for the first time in the 12 years I’ve lived here. Not a huge line, I’m looking at 15 minutes or so, but again first time I’ve never been in and out. My precinct has one of very few democrats in the state leg. Fingers crossed we can limit dotard to 60% in Oklahoma. That would be a win in my book.

Edited November 3, 2020 by 'stache

[Sbbruin 21,865]

3 minutes ago, Old Freak Nasty said:

Like a Trump loss today means anything in regards to the Trump political future.  The 2024 GOP candidate will be Trump Jr.  4 years of Trump news network is going to be shouting it to base.  A polished turd like Tom Cotton has no fucking shot at it even though he thinks he's in prime position once Cheeto endorses his son (if he's still around, that is).

No.  Don Jr. makes the orange goon look like Albert Einstein.

[Hiphopopotamos 20,876]

 

[Valmy77 13,250]

3 minutes ago, 'stache said:

Line at my polling station foe the first time in the 12 years I’ve lived here. Not a huge line, I’m looking at 15 minutes or so, but again first time I’ve never been in and out. My precinct has one of very few democrats in the state leg. Fingers crossed we can limit dotard to 60% in Oklahoma. That would be a win in my book.

I hope Kendra Horn wins.

[achooloco 1,072]

50 minutes ago, NorthLoop said:

So anyone got any good links for live coverage for those of us who cut the cord? I don't really wanna use the CNN/msnbc/whatever main sites. 

Catching up but quoted/repeated cause that’ll be me later today after work.

edit: saw responses on top of pf 388. Thanks!

Edited November 3, 2020 by achooloco

[Guest Lobo]

I think it's possible he goes right at 60% in Oklahoma.  Remember Johnson took 6% in Oklahoma.  Conventional wisdom might say those folks break for Trump, but I think it speaks more to just more Okies that didn't like Hillary (she got 29%, that's just abysmal for even her), and wanted to vote against her but not for Trump.  I think Biden picks up more of that 6% than Trump does this go-around.  Is 2020 like 2016 up there where there was no green party or constitution party or no true independents either?  It was just Rep/Dem/Lib?  If that's the case, I I'd say Oklahoma goes 59/40/1.  1 being because it's Oklahoma.  

[Hiphopopotamos 20,876]

Harris County getting a lot of air time on CNN this morning.  Looks like pretty good turnout - lines around the block at the polling stations and what not.  

[immamac 42,876]

holy fuck it would be delicious if Moscow Mitch had a surprise loss. 

[Mrs Whiggins 13,050]

4 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

No.  Don Jr. makes the orange goon look like Albert Einstein.

Four more years of that 'habit' and Don Jr. going to look like that facemelt in Raiders of the Lost Ark.

[Biff Tannen 45,694]

7 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

 

Why does he give a fuck about IN and KY?  They are the deepest red there is.

[SizzleChest 8,284]

1 hour ago, DigDug said:

I am nervous as hell. 

[BradInATX 9,208]

Why does he give a fuck about IN and KY?  They are the deepest red there is.

It will tell us a lot about rural white turnout in PA/MI/WI/OH.

[Wulaw Horn 19,133]

4 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Why does he give a fuck about IN and KY?  They are the deepest red there is.

Bc if the rurals went from 80/20 Trump to 75/25 Trump that’s a game changer in places that aren’t deep deep red. 

Edited November 3, 2020 by Wulaw Horn

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11,669]

Just now, BradInATX said:

2 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Why does he give a fuck about IN and KY?  They are the deepest red there is.

It will tell us a lot about rural white turnout in PA/MI/WI/OH.

then i'd suggest looking at some rural county in, say, PA.  or maybe MI.  WI, even.  Maybe even OH.

[SimonBolivar 10,958]

1 minute ago, Biff Tannen said:

Why does he give a fuck about IN and KY?  They are the deepest red there is.

The theory is that if Biden is eating at the leads there then he's likely to have won over similar voters in swing states. I mean we'll get some numbers from swing states at the same time so it just sounds like he's sitting around bored thinking of things to do when the action starts.

[Dahobbs 17,626]

2 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Why does he give a fuck about IN and KY?  They are the deepest red there is.

I suppose if Trump loses support there in terms of percentage, that will likely signal even larger shifts in other states. 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

1 minute ago, Biff Tannen said:

Why does he give a fuck about IN and KY? 

He’s interested in the rural. Trump’s performance in rural areas like that will be very telling and can be indicative. 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

1 minute ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Bc if the rItaly’s went from 80/20 Trump to 75/25 Trump that’s a game changer in places that aren’t deep deep red. 

This is exactly what I’m looking for/expecting. 

[Hiphopopotamos 20,876]

1 minute ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

then i'd suggest looking at some rural county in, say, PA.  or maybe MI.  WI, even.  Maybe even OH.

PA, MI, WI will all be delaying the count of mail/absentee votes.  IN and KY will have those votes counted fairly quickly.

[Biff Tannen 45,694]

4 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

then i'd suggest looking at some rural county in, say, PA.  or maybe MI.  WI, even.  Maybe even OH.

Well that just makes too much sense.

[Wulaw Horn 19,133]

2 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

then i'd suggest looking at some rural county in, say, PA.  or maybe MI.  WI, even.  Maybe even OH.

Kentucky and Indiana close way way earlier. It’s a sneak preview. 

[BradInATX 9,208]

then i'd suggest looking at some rural county in, say, PA.  or maybe MI.  WI, even.  Maybe even OH.

Indiana doesn't have early voting which makes it less difficult to see clear results earlier in the night there vs states with big early and mail-ins voting.

[Hiphopopotamos 20,876]

2 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Well that just makes too much sense.

Some rural counties in WI and PA aren't going to start counting mail votes until the day after the election.

[Wulaw Horn 19,133]

1 minute ago, BradInATX said:

4 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

then i'd suggest looking at some rural county in, say, PA.  or maybe MI.  WI, even.  Maybe even OH.

Indiana doesn't have early voting which makes it less difficult to see clear results earlier in the night there vs states with big early and mail-ins voting.

Also they close their polls 2 or 3 hours earlier than those other states  they will be the only data we have for like 60-90 minutes  

 

 

[Gap03 3,308]

On MSNBC, they were noting that Detroit officials had recently dropped projected turnout in the city from 60% to 50%.  Does that make anyone else nervous, or do you think that the MI polls had accounted for lower turnout there?

[Mrs Whiggins 13,050]

Someone had a tweet about Melania flying to Florida? She's heading to the polls:. Knoller is with CBS.

 

[Poe It Up 126]

The past few days have been so bizarre. I'm among the Republicans that thinks Trump ultimately loses, but I'm quickly learning that there are fewer of us than I imagined. Many of them are not prepared for a Biden victory, if that should happen. 

[yoladu 4,094]

8 hours ago, CTC2 said:

My God.  I took a look over there.  That's some crazy shit.  

i go over there quite a bit.. it is unreal right now.

So much delusion right now, which will turn to shock, and then settle into conspiratorial anger.

[Wulaw Horn 19,133]

Just now, Gap03 said:

On MSNBC, they were noting that Detroit officials had recently dropped projected turnout in the city from 60% to 50%.  Does that make anyone else nervous, or do you think that the MI polls had accounted for lower turnout there?

You are going to make yourself crazy. It’s not going to be close. 

[Hiphopopotamos 20,876]

CNN doing a good job explaining how states count the votes differently and how that might make a state look 'red' or 'blue' initially but that there are going to be swings from one candidate to the other as mail ballots are counted.

[Mrs Whiggins 13,050]

Also Florida, which way does this trend?

 

[NorthLoop 14,218]

1 minute ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

Someone had a tweet about Melania flying to Florida? She's heading to the polls:. Knoller is with CBS.

 

So that pic of Trump looking over her shoulder as she votes is from 2016? Or is this bitch voting twice. 

[Fudge Nuggets 19,209]

59 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

Isn’t two times a negative number just a larger or negative number?

|2x|
 

[Guest]

25 minutes ago, Old Freak Nasty said:

Like a Trump loss today means anything in regards to the Trump political future.  The 2024 GOP candidate will be Trump Jr.  4 years of Trump news network is going to be shouting it to base.  A polished turd like Tom Cotton has no fucking shot at it even though he thinks he's in prime position once Cheeto endorses his son (if he's still around, that is).

Edited November 3, 2020 by slorch

[yoladu 4,094]

8 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

snl needs to turn this into a 1970’s vegas lounge act that trump (baldwin) decides to do post-presidency. where he just wanders around, 6 scotches in, and stumbles through the abuse. 

raging bull style...

[Hiphopopotamos 20,876]

3 minutes ago, Gap03 said:

On MSNBC, they were noting that Detroit officials had recently dropped projected turnout in the city from 60% to 50%.  Does that make anyone else nervous, or do you think that the MI polls had accounted for lower turnout there?

53% in 2008, 51% in 2012, 48% turnout in 2016

So better than Clinton but not up to Obama levels.

[Hiphopopotamos 20,876]

4 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

Also Florida, which way does this trend?

 

Trump won FL-8 by 1.2 points in 2016