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1 minute ago, Bateshorn said:

I just did some digging on the county elections sites. AZ is a receive on, not postmark, VBM state.  There’s no more ballots in route. 

So, the current margins are more or less final? Asking for a guy in our 6th district.

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2 minutes ago, FOXHOUND said:

Putting the onus on minority groups to save this country from itself and also have to fight disenfranchisement and voter suppression tactics is not right. 

 

White voters, once again broke for Trump. White women even went up on their support. 

"Putting the responsibility of helping yourself on yourself is wrong, you should depend on other people to help you"

What a fucking loser mentality. If you don't want help, then I'm done offering it - that's what we heard loud and clear from the vote.

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BTW, Texas margin was around 660k, 52-46 (so, a +6 Trump win).

I thought that Texas could get it within 4, if things broke right.  They didn't.  Trump was +9 here in 2016.  Some erosion of that support, but as discussed, unique circumstances depressing his performance.

Texas is still a +10 GOP state -- that's the margin of Cornyn v. Hegar, which was for all intents and purposes a generic R v. generic D race.  No D gain in the statehouse.  Still a long way to go to make Texas even purple, much less blue.

Now, back to your regularly scheduled nail-biting.

I think the comments about Oil & Gas actually hurt Biden in Harris and Fort Bend counties.  Not sure what the hell happened in the Rio Grande Valley.  They went much worse for Biden than they did Hilldawg in 2016.

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Voters in Texas gave President Donald Trump its 38 electoral votes while holding negative views about the country’s direction, according to an expansive AP survey of the American electorate.

The race between Trump and Democratic rival Joe Biden concluded Tuesday as the nation remains in the throes of a global public health crisis and mired in the economic downturn it brought on. AP VoteCast found that nearly three-fifths of Texas voters said the U.S. is headed in the wrong direction and about two-fifths said it is on the right track.

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1 minute ago, immamac said:

"Putting the responsibility of helping yourself on yourself is wrong, you should depend on other people to help you"

What a fucking loser mentality. If you don't want help, then I'm done offering it - that's what we heard loud and clear from the vote.

This is such a bitchmade take.

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5 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

I think the comments about Oil & Gas actually hurt Biden in Harris and Fort Bend counties.  Not sure what the hell happened in the Rio Grande Valley.  They went much worse for Biden than they did Hilldawg in 2016.

I really don't know.

This f'n state.  Also, the Dem party apparatus in Texas is functionally in its infancy.   There has been no statewide Dem party for a generation.  The party, and the attendant machinery and systems, needs to be built from scratch.  There's some talent, and some beginnings.....but only the beginnings thus far.

 

Oh, and also, for all we shit on Fla......at least it's marginally competitive.  We're just so used to Texas being blind and shitty R that we give it a pass.  We shouldn't.  Our state is shitty.

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5 minutes ago, immamac said:

"Putting the responsibility of helping yourself on yourself is wrong, you should depend on other people to help you"

What a fucking loser mentality. If you don't want help, then I'm done offering it - that's what we heard loud and clear from the vote.

Well we can't magically spawn more voters, white people are still the numerical majority in this country. And fuck outta here saying that's "loser mentality" talk, it's facts. Where the hell do you think more black votes will come from when we are 13 percent of the total population? The aether. White people need to gather their own, all of the abject failures of this administration and support for Trump is just as robust as it was in 2016.

 

But lets go off about black and brown folks. 

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  Yeah, that actually should be the exact opposite. So do something to extract the extra 25%.

So we need white people to save us when we are perfectly capable of saving ourselves? That's why Beto wasn't popular with Texicans even though he is culturally nearly identical. He spoke the language, came from the same place etc. 

They choose not to vote. They don't say it's too hard, and we proved this year it wasn't "too hard" to vote. They just didn't fucking do it. "If you can't be bothered to vote, then fuck you" - that's what both parties said loud and clear and That's not racist.

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4 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

I think the comments about Oil & Gas actually hurt Biden in Harris and Fort Bend counties.  Not sure what the hell happened in the Rio Grande Valley.  They went much worse for Biden than they did Hilldawg in 2016.

Yeah, that seems to have been a major blunder by Biden.  It's pandering first off (meaning highly unlikely he could really do anything to the energy industry during his term, anyway) and apparently had a pretty toxic effect on a lot of people.

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I wish y'all hadn't pointed me to TexAgs Politics forum.  It is the most fascinating and frightening place I've ventured to on the web, and I've gone down some pretty deep rabbit holes on various "sites" (not quite nowthis deep, but still).

You weren’t kidding. Just a quick skim of the page shows that 

1)Sharpiegate is real and has robbed Trump of winning AZ

2) voter fraud is rampant but only in places where Trump held a lead but now may lose it. In all other Republican leaning districts, the voting is highly regulated and completely fair. 
3) 100% of mail in ballots have gone for Biden, so you know it’s rigged and Trump will fight this and win

4) Military absentee ballots are genuine, but mail in ballots are not.

5) they have a 1041 page Qanon thread that is as approving as you would expect and a bunch of posts starting with, “think about this logically...” 

6) 2 threads saying, “Don’t worry, guys. Rush has spoken and he said Trump will win in the end!”
 

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BTW, Texas margin was around 660k, 52-46 (so, a +6 Trump win).
I thought that Texas could get it within 4, if things broke right.  They didn't.  Trump was +9 here in 2016.  Some erosion of that support, but as discussed, unique circumstances depressing his performance.
Texas is still a +10 GOP state -- that's the margin of Cornyn v. Hegar, which was for all intents and purposes a generic R v. generic D race.  No D gain in the statehouse.  Still a long way to go to make Texas even purple, much less blue.
Now, back to your regularly scheduled nail-biting.
Counter point is a lot of first time voters motivated to vote for Trump. They probably voted straight team R as well. When he goes away do they still come out for generic R they never heard of?
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5 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

I think the comments about Oil & Gas actually hurt Biden in Harris and Fort Bend counties.  Not sure what the hell happened in the Rio Grande Valley.  They went much worse for Biden than they did Hilldawg in 2016.

Texas was never in play.  The fact that anyone thought it was points to the fact that the Dems are naive as fuck and polling is worthless.  I don't believe for a minute that any O&G Texans were gonna vote for Biden until he said that.  They knew where their bread was buttered the whole time.

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1 minute ago, immamac said:

So we need white people to save us when we are perfectly capable of saving ourselves? That's why Beto wasn't popular with Texicans even though he is culturally nearly identical. He spoke the language, came from the same place etc. 

They choose not to vote. They don't say it's too hard, and we proved this year it wasn't "too hard" to vote. They just didn't fucking do it. "If you can't be bothered to vote, then fuck you" - that's what both parties said loud and clear and That's not racist.

Whatever you need to tell yourself 

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2 minutes ago, FOXHOUND said:

Well we can't magically spawn more voters, white people are still the numerical majority in this country. And fuck outta here saying that's "loser mentality" talk, it's facts. Where the hell do you think more black votes will come from when we are 13 percent of the total population? The aether. White people need to gather their own, all of the abject failures of this administration and support for Trump is just as robust as it was in 2016.

 

But lets go off about black and brown folks. 

Wait what? Hispanics are basically a majority in Texas in case you didn't fucking know. Where the fuck did 2M of them come from since 2010! WOE IS ME!

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From my experience in O&G, it’s not like there were a bunch of O&G workers ready to vote Biden then switched back to Trump after his comment during the debate. 
 

There are some based ass O&G engineers like myself that will vote D because we’re not fucktards, but we make up a small percentage. 

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3 minutes ago, Born to Run said:
17 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:
BTW, Texas margin was around 660k, 52-46 (so, a +6 Trump win).
I thought that Texas could get it within 4, if things broke right.  They didn't.  Trump was +9 here in 2016.  Some erosion of that support, but as discussed, unique circumstances depressing his performance.
Texas is still a +10 GOP state -- that's the margin of Cornyn v. Hegar, which was for all intents and purposes a generic R v. generic D race.  No D gain in the statehouse.  Still a long way to go to make Texas even purple, much less blue.
Now, back to your regularly scheduled nail-biting.

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Counter point is a lot of first time voters motivated to vote for Trump. They probably voted straight team R as well. When he goes away do they still come out for generic R they never heard of?

Republicans lack imagination. If Biden stalls at all, and McConnell will obstruct his face off, Trump will come back in 2024. The cucks in the R party will be powerless to stop it.

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There’s a sizable amount of GOP voters that think the country is headed towards becoming a lawless socialist hell hole and Trump is the only thing holding back the flood. 

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1 minute ago, hobbes2702 said:

I’m super shocked that immamac doesn’t really care about minorities. Who coulda seen that coming.

wtf are you talking about - I said what we saw from the vote was that. I think that the minority voice is EXTREMELY important and that's why I'm so disappointed in the result. We can't count on white people to do the right thing, as per tradition. 

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9 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

I think the comments about Oil & Gas actually hurt Biden in Harris and Fort Bend counties.  Not sure what the hell happened in the Rio Grande Valley.  They went much worse for Biden than they did Hilldawg in 2016.

I think this is a good assessment.  I'm in Fort Bend and I'm quite surprised that we weren't better for Biden.  My neighborhood, and many around here, has a significant faction of diverse and wealthy O&Gers, who other than than would align mostly Dem and most certainly revile Trump's antics.

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Texas was never in play.  The fact that anyone thought it was points to the fact that the Dems are naive as fuck and polling is worthless.  I don't believe for a minute that any O&G Texans were gonna vote for Biden until he said that.  They knew where their bread was buttered the whole time.
No but it got a lot of new voters out.

I was a poll watcher in west Austin yesterday. Shit load of young people and first time voters. The numbers I saw at the end were depressing. Y'all saying the olds just need to die off are deluded. More trumpers hit voting age everyday.
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6 minutes ago, Dark Horse said:

From my experience in O&G, it’s not like there were a bunch of O&G workers ready to vote Biden then switched back to Trump after his comment during the debate. 

Of course not, but there are a lot of people who don't work in O&G, yet care about the success of the O&G industry in Texas.  They know their jobs and their local economy would be greatly affected by a hit to that industry.

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2 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

They didn’t vote for what I wanted this time so why should I help is exactly what he’s saying. 

I was stating that's what THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SAID with their vote. 

I'm saying there is a bit of personal responsibility that needs to be incorporated into voting, but that's not saying it's their fault for not voting, it's highlighting why they are oppressed/apathetic not saying that it's their fault for those things. 

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