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2020 Presidential Election -- Biden v Trump: Sleepy Joe vs Dopey Don [Results begin on page 409]


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1 hour ago, gmr548 said:

Myth based on lazy analysis by the media. Trump ran exactly in line with Romney. Exactly. People just specifically decided to not vote for Hillary Clinton. The 45 percent Trump got in the state has proven to be the absolute GOP ceiling there. 2018 was a bloodbath. GOP didn't even pass 45 percent against Keith Ellison, who's basically lab-created to rile up the kind of non college white voter so often cited as making the state a tossup.

It's not a tossup. Not this year. Trump will get 44-45 percent and Biden will win it 52-45 or something.
 

A Republican only wins MN when there is a third party involved or general chaos on the Dem side.

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1 hour ago, Mo Horn said:

Joe Biden's true lead is smaller than it appears https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/05/politics/joe-biden-lead-analysis/index.html

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It wouldn't take much, though, to shift the race so that Biden's national lead is less than 5 points, which would mean the true margin would be in the competitive territory.

Voter suppression and outright fraud, come on down!

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It wouldn't take much, though, to shift the race so that Biden's national lead is less than 5 points, which would mean the true margin would be in the competitive territory.

On a calmer note.

This final line of this unskewing article translates as: "This entire piece supposes what could happen if the Moon was cheese.  It's not, but what if it was?"  Author "studied" 160 years of elections to offer nothing more that a But What If It Wasn't What It Is.

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1 minute ago, Herpa Derpa said:

On a calmer note.

This final line of this unskewing article translates as: "This entire piece supposes what could happen if the Moon was cheese.  It's not, but what if it was?"  Author "studied" 160 years of elections to offer nothing more that a But What If It Wasn't What It Is.

Not really, no. Unless you think the moon is made of milk. 

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20 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

This is a not a bad idea honestly.
 

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Nothing can overcome the disgusting picture of that carrot on a plate with terrible meat.  I mean, who in their right mind eats at Bob's?  I used a gift card there once and gave it away the next few years because fuck that horrible place.

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15 minutes ago, Hefeweizen said:

Nothing can overcome the disgusting picture of that carrot on a plate with terrible meat.  I mean, who in their right mind eats at Bob's?  I used a gift card there once and gave it away the next few years because fuck that horrible place.

You can use those at the bar. That’s what I do when my mom gives me similar cards. 

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6 minutes ago, totallynotabuttpirate said:

It's hilarious that mentally challenged trump supporters think Biden is going to get crushed in a debate. It's like they haven't watched him go in on people for 40 years. 

It doesn't matter what happens in the debates, in the twisted minds of the Trumpkins it will be a Trump drubbing of Biden. Nothing matters. The name of the game at this point is to get out the vote, especially in the swing states. 

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23 minutes ago, totallynotabuttpirate said:

It's hilarious that mentally challenged trump supporters think Biden is going to get crushed in a debate. It's like they haven't watched him go in on people for 40 years. 

Trump is likely to crap his pants in the first debate and just Up and leave. Then he will accuse Biden of crapping his pants so he had to leave because of the smell. 

Every accusation is a confession and everything trump says is either a lie, wrong, or a lie that he’s accidentally right about. 

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19 hours ago, pyrohornIII said:

It wouldn't surprise me if it came out that he has shifted more campaign money into Trump properties and is beginning to do so at a faster clip.  Like he knows he is sunk, and is raiding the company safe.

 

This would make sense. In his view, the money is HIS. It was donated/given to HIM, in HIS NAME. He IS the Party, so it should be HIS. Very on brand.

With respect to Barr, it has the eerie feeling of them pulling out the binder and scribbling China over everything for a smear campaign. Russia wasn't going to work because they are up to their ears with Trump's ties, the banks, etc but China is the angle they are working because they can tie the anger over the pandemic to it and Russia will help with this narrative. China virus, China voter fraud, Hunter China, China and higher education, and the racism against Asians all play in the campaign's favor and Barr is going to assist that in any way he can.

To the faithful, it wouldn't matter, they are convinced that Biden=demented red commie socialist pedo globalist, but they may figure it helps with particular areas and also down ballot. Like Karl Rove pouring money into Texas. They are going to fight dirty and fight with everything they can. VOTE. Get others to VOTE.

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2 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

This would make sense. In his view, the money is HIS. It was donated/given to HIM, in HIS NAME. He IS the Party, so it should be HIS. Very on brand.

With respect to Barr, it has the eerie feeling of them pulling out the binder and scribbling China over everything for a smear campaign. Russia wasn't going to work because they are up to their ears with Trump's ties, the banks, etc but China is the angle they are working because they can tie the anger over the pandemic to it and Russia will help with this narrative. China virus, China voter fraud, Hunter China, China and higher education, and the racism against Asians all play in the campaign's favor and Barr is going to assist that in any way he can.

To the faithful, it wouldn't matter, they are convinced that Biden=demented red commie socialist pedo globalist, but they may figure it helps with particular areas and also down ballot. Like Karl Rove pouring money into Texas. They are going to fight dirty and fight with everything they can. VOTE. Get others to VOTE.

Karl rove pouring money into Texas is a bad sign for republicans.

he doesn’t usually do that. It’s a sign that Rove truly thinks the Texas house can be lost.

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I think I read about it on here maybe in the Texas House thread, but I've been occupied with home stuff so the threads are moving faster than I can keep up some days. I was super busy the last half of this week and the Friday news dump was a tad overwhelming. If I'm recalling correctly, he has a PAC.

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New Polling from Dallas Morning News today shows Trump with a 2 point lead over Biden in Texas in likely voters. This was before all the loser dead military comments.

Trump 48 Biden 46.

Trump with 28% Hispanic vote and 9% Black. Below tweetpost from cactus is amongst registered voters FYI, same polling.

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2020/09/06/trump-erases-bidens-lead-in-texas-as-hegar-chips-away-at-cornyns-edge-in-senate-race/?outputType=amp&__twitter_impression=true

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Here's the crosstabs for that Texas poll: https://www.scribd.com/document/474962250/DMN-UTTyler-2020-Poll-Codebook-2

Some interesting notes:

Trumps approval rating among Republicans is a whopping 53%. What's interesting is nearly the same percentage of Democrats, Republicans, and Independents are neutral on Trump's job performance (about 20% each). Trump's approval among Demorcrats isn't very high of course, but at 13% that's a lot higher than the national average. 

For the US Senate, there are a LOT of undecided voters out there. Even a third of Democratic voters are unsure when asked and a quarter of Republicans. Even though Cornyn has an 11 point lead he only is polling 39% among likely voters. I'm very surprised to see the lack of support for Cornyn among Republicans. 

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11 minutes ago, The Dog said:

For the US Senate, there are a LOT of undecided voters out there. Even a third of Democratic voters are unsure when asked and a quarter of Republicans. Even though Cornyn has an 11 point lead he only is polling 39% among likely voters. I'm very surprised to see the lack of support for Cornyn among Republicans. 

Well when because of an amazing amount of group cowardice you willingly allow the party to change from a party (the GOP) a cult of personality (the party of Trump), this kind of thing can happen when your name isn't Trump. It's yet another easily foreseeable consequence of Republican capitulation. 

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49 minutes ago, The Dog said:

Here's the crosstabs for that Texas poll: https://www.scribd.com/document/474962250/DMN-UTTyler-2020-Poll-Codebook-2

Some interesting notes:

Trumps approval rating among Republicans is a whopping 53%. What's interesting is nearly the same percentage of Democrats, Republicans, and Independents are neutral on Trump's job performance (about 20% each). Trump's approval among Demorcrats isn't very high of course, but at 13% that's a lot higher than the national average. 

For the US Senate, there are a LOT of undecided voters out there. Even a third of Democratic voters are unsure when asked and a quarter of Republicans. Even though Cornyn has an 11 point lead he only is polling 39% among likely voters. I'm very surprised to see the lack of support for Cornyn among Republicans. 

20% of self-identified Texas Republicans either disagree or strongly disagree with the statement that coronavirus is a major health threat. 

 

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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/06/us/politics/trump-biden-2020.html?action=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage

 

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Private polls conducted for both parties during and after their August conventions found the race largely stable but tightening slightly in some states, with Mr. Trump recovering some support from conservative-leaning rural voters who had drifted away over the summer amid the worsening pandemic. Yet Mr. Biden continues to enjoy advantages with nearly every other group, especially in populous areas where the virus remains at the forefront for voters, according to people briefed on the data

 

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No president has entered Labor Day weekend — the traditional kickoff of the fall campaign — as such a clear underdog since George Bush in 1992. Mr. Trump has not led in public polls in such must-win states as Florida since Mr. Biden claimed the nomination in April, and there has been little fluctuation in the race. Still, the president’s surprise win in 2016 weighs heavily in the thinking of nervous Democrats and hopeful Republicans alike.

 

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A consistent challenge for Mr. Trump has been his unwillingness, or inability, to drive a focused political message rather than becoming engulfed in less favorable debates, like his ongoing tirade against a report that he belittled American service members. His campaign also appears to be facing a significant financial crunch and has largely ceased advertising on television even as Mr. Biden begins to spend heavily from his war chest after raising about $365 million in August.

 

 

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The Trump campaign is expected to increase television spending next week, but several Republicans said that Bill Stepien, Mr. Trump’s campaign manager since July, was taking a cautious approach after the former leadership spent huge sums on television and digital ads earlier this year, to no discernible effect. The light television spending and advertising blackouts in some key states have mystified allies, raising questions about how much cash the campaign has in the bank.

 

 

 

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Allies of Mr. Trump believe there is virtually no chance that he can win the popular vote, and they have seen some states on his victorious 2016 map shift markedly away from them. They are particularly pessimistic about Michigan, which Mr. Trump narrowly won four years ago, and are looking to flip Nevada, which has many white voters without college degrees, and especially Minnesota, the state he lost by the closest margin four years ago and the site of weeks of unrest following the police killing of George Floyd.

 

 

 

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