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2020 Presidential Election -- Biden v Trump: Sleepy Joe vs Dopey Don [Results begin on page 409]


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37 minutes ago, Grade of D as in David said:

It's perfectly on brand for him.

This man pissed away hundreds of millions... twice.

He lost his fortune in the casino business and manhattan real estate. 

If he had a money tree he would cut it down.

 

That transactional approach of his apparently only goes one way. He can't be bothered with seeing the political value of handing out cash right before an election. We haven't praised him with our votes, therefore we don't get anything. 

Dotard. SWEATERGAWD it bottles the mind.

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2 hours ago, 6th Street said:

GOP misses the days when voting was limited to land owning white males

When I was younger, I considered that to be important mainly for moral reasons...justice, equality, and shit like that.

But man, during the Trump era, it's an absolute life line of sanity and practicality.  If only white males could vote, Trump would be emperor for life.  

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I mean he could give up classified info and/or a list of foreign assets to certain interested parties in order to settle some debts that are about to come due.
 
He probably already has, just not on Twitter. Though that does beg the question. Is there someone within the CIA/FBI who is tasked with monitoring all of Trump's social media posts on a minute by minute basis?

That is a job that would literally make you go insane.
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6 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

the only thing i can think of is that he's going to put together his own stimulus bill

This might make sense high level when 99.9% of the country votes on November 3rd.  Problem is, every day he stalls is now a day he loses votes.

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2 hours ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

I do not understand how self professed Christians can contjnue to support Trump. He is absolutely horrific.

Wherever God erects a house of prayer,
The Devil always builds a chapel there,
And 'twill be found upon examination,
The latter has the largest congregation

- Daniel Defoe

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6 hours ago, thepop said:

That quote is fake, guys. Let’s not turn into Facebook here 

But didn't you know. Trump is going to ruin America in a matter of hours with insane military orders and by blabbing all the classified information he knows. Just ask around. It's a sure thing. 

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Some recent polls have Biden leading Trump by 20 points for people 65+. Trump win that demo by 10 points in 2016.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/10/06/why-are-seniors-breaking-hard-joe-biden/

If true, I wonder if Trump isn’t losing by more across the board in the polls. I believe pollsters normalize their data somewhat based on past knowledge. If their polls show old people are reporting unexpected behavior, don’t they “cook” the numbers some to better reflect normal voting patterns?

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16 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Two polls just shown on the Today show:

Tied in Florida 45-45

Tied in Nawf Carolina 47-47

Reporter did mention what was interesting about the Florida poll was the amount of undecideds/

Being tied in NC is disappointing.  Biden should be pulling away there.

FL... meh, it's FL you can't believe any poll that comes out of that place.

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2 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

Someone is going to have to translate, but I get the gist of it. Can of whoop ass has been opened. 

Black women are coming. 

Those are all different Black sororities.  Black sororities hate each other.  Hate.  But that picture is telling you they are coming together to get his bitch ass out. 

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3 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Black women are coming. 

Those are all different Black sororities.  Black sororities hate each other.  Hate.  But that picture is telling you they are coming together to get his bitch ass out. 

They always show up and vote 97% Dem. that’s called “same as it ever was” and worthy of a huge yawn. 
now, I think the idea that Trump is going to pull 12-15% of the black vote is unlikely, but I’ve seen that number tossed around a lot. If he does it’s coming from Males- that’s where the man bites dog news item is, if it happens (I’m skeptical).

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18 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Being tied in NC is disappointing.  Biden should be pulling away there.

FL... meh, it's FL you can't believe any poll that comes out of that place.

Now we are into silliness. If it’s 4 points in Alaska and 18 in North Dakota and West virginia and 10 or 12 or 16 Or whatever nationally than North Carolina ain’t tied. 

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Women everywhere know this President makes the world unsafe. He can talk all he wants about Anitfa coming to the burbs, but any woman with a brain knows he is the one responsible for the danger to them and children across the nation. Women and children suffer as collateral damage in wars and pandemics across all social and economic strata. The children can't vote, but women sure can. We are pissed.

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5 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

Women everywhere know this President makes the world unsafe. He can talk all he wants about Anitfa coming to the burbs, but any woman with a brain knows he is the one responsible for the danger to them and children across the nation. Women and children suffer as collateral damage in wars and pandemics across all social and economic strata. The children can't vote, but women sure can. We are pissed.

Men don't have a monopoly on stupidity.  There are plenty of stupid women roaming around as well, wives thread could have told you that.

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12 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

They always show up and vote 97% Dem. that’s called “same as it ever was” and worthy of a huge yawn. 
 

They always vote against the GOP, when they show up.  If they’d showed up in 2016 Trump isn’t president.  

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12 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Men don't have a monopoly on stupidity.  There are plenty of stupid women roaming around as well, wives thread could have told you that.

Save it.

I'm not calling men 'stupid.' It has more to do with an awareness of female vulnerability. I'm well aware that stupidity is equal opportunity.

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On 10/5/2020 at 1:32 PM, Storm the Field said:

I've definitely noticed this as well, and it's not just Trump fanatics. I know several nervous DEM guys that just assume Trump will win again no matter what kind of evidence you show them. 

On the other hand (and not saying your family is like this), but the true die-hards are absolutely convinced that not only will Trump win, but he'll completely dominate and end up with more EV than 2016, possibly even win the PV.

It seems to basically boil down to "2016 polls were wrong, therefore the exact same thing will definitely happen this time. Trump gets 30K at his rallies while senile Joe hasn't left his nursing home in months!" 

These are the same people who think every single news story is good for Trump/bad for Biden's chances. Also the same people who literally a week ago were predicting that Biden would come down with COVID to avoid having to debate.

 

Reality. The 2016 polls were not far off. The media's interpretation of the polls got everyone in a tizy. Most states were within the margin of error, so it was a coin flip.

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6 minutes ago, DaysOff said:

 

Reality. The 2016 polls were not far off. The media's interpretation of the polls got everyone in a tizy. Most states were within the margin of error, so it was a coin flip.

Exactly.  Didn't 538 have Clinton/Trump at roughly 75/25% chance of winning?  Saying "OMG THE POLLS DON'T WORK" after that is like saying the laws of probability are broken if you flip a coin twice and it comes up heads both times.  

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15 minutes ago, DaysOff said:

 

Reality. The 2016 polls were not far off. The media's interpretation of the polls got everyone in a tizy. Most states were within the margin of error, so it was a coin flip.

I posted this waaay upthread but Scott Rasmussen said the exact same thing in April: THE POLLS WEREN’T WRONG IN 2016–BUT THE ANALYSIS OF THE POLLS WAS HORRIBLE

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7 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

If the 2016 election had been decided by only white women, it would've been a Trump landslide.

White women need to be a little more circumspect with the self high-fives about how GIRL POWER is going to defeat Trump.

No beef with that. It's going to take the GaryOldman.gif to defeat Trump and everyone better vote. Some voters will double down on a past mistake, but IMO, learn and move forward.

The key is that women stay moving forward, and that white women not go running back to the right as soon as the dust settles and 'they' feel safe. Progress means progress for all.

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41 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

They always show up and vote 97% Dem. that’s called “same as it ever was” and worthy of a huge yawn. 
now, I think the idea that Trump is going to pull 12-15% of the black vote is unlikely, but I’ve seen that number tossed around a lot. If he does it’s coming from Males- that’s where the man bites dog news item is, if it happens (I’m skeptical).

No, you’re wrong about this, and you can look this up. In the Alabama special election, Republicans showed up at a normal level and voted for Roy Moore. Black Women showed up at an unprecedented level and made elected Doug Jones.

 

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18 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

If the 2016 election had been decided by only white women, it would've been a Trump landslide.

White women need to be a little more circumspect with the self high-fives about how GIRL POWER is going to defeat Trump.

Side note- my kid has a shirt that says “Elizabeth Holmes is my #girlboss” and it cracks me up every time I see it.

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