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Posted
3 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

have to repeat this...

the stunning wall of silence from the rest of the GOP is sweet.

the GOP got theirs... i think they will be glad to get rid of Trump and be obstructionists while saddling Biden with some tough problems to solve - covid, economy and yes, you guessed it... the deficit/debt. 

I get the feeling they have pivoted to 2024.

Posted
2 minutes ago, Hookah Horns said:

King is saying dotard needs to win GA and PA, but I don't think that's true unless I'm missing something. If Biden wins only GA, then there's a tie and it goes go to the House, where each state delegation gets one vote, and dotard would win there. 

Depends on Nevada.  But, yeah, if they aren't chalking that one for Biden.  Biden needs any two or PA. 

Posted
1 hour ago, Chapo said:

White women didn't like those Biden clips sniffing women. So obviously they went with Trump, who is much better with respecting boundaries.

Amazingly, this is basically accurate.  I know several women (no pics) who were not happy about Biden winning the Dem nom because of his history of being "handsy" and engaging in creepy hugs.  More than one of these ladies made statements indicating they were thinking of voting for Trump.  It blew my mind. 

One of them called Biden misogynistic.  I told her, "Do you really think Mr. GrabEmByThePussy is any less misogynistic?" 

"Well, no . . ."

"Then why the fuck would you ever consider voting for him if that's your main criterion for a presidential candidate?!?" 

[*crickets*]  

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Posted
13 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

That is the take of Schindler and I don't think he is wrong on this. My big fear has been and continues to be that Biden will have four years of economic peril due to the pandemic, tax cuts, and the crazy spending the GOP did prior to the pandemic and four years of the right yammering about it. He may get it turned around just in time for their soft shoe number that lulls everybody into believing the GOP is not the authoritarian oligarchy they aspire to be. Trapped in their own growing nationalistic intercine fights, our former allies may not be able to help.

 

The policies they have that favor their Davos Donor class are completely at odds with this.

Posted
Just now, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I disagree that a news agency should call the race. We need a state to announce that there are fewer votes than the winner is ahead. This isn't a normal election.

 

Everyone is doing it fine, no one is begging for people to call anything. We want the counting to be fucking faster, how fucking slow are these god damned machines. 

Posted
5 minutes ago, Hookah Horns said:

King is saying dotard needs to win GA and PA, but I don't think that's true unless I'm missing something. If Biden wins only GA, then there's a tie and it goes go to the House, where each state delegation gets one vote, and dotard would win there. 

Correct, but that means that Trump also has to win Nevada and Arizona which seems unlikely (especially NV).

Posted
5 minutes ago, Hookah Horns said:

King is saying dotard needs to win GA and PA, but I don't think that's true, unless I'm missing something. If Biden wins only GA, then there's a tie and it goes go to the House, where each state delegation gets one vote, and right now, dotard would win there. 

Doesn't look likely, but it's weird he's not even gaming that scenario out. 

Pa wins it all for Joe. Game over when that flips blue. Trump needs PA +2 others 

Posted (edited)

@Brisket,  I don't see anything reasonable about Trump's approach should he stay.   That is expecting a miraculous change.  I would never expect it.

as far as Dems reaching across the aisle, hell we can't even get past crazy ass minimum wage and guaranteed income for everyone on the other thread about appealing to non-dems..  Dems have been kicked around, and I don't expect some conciliatory session until 2022.   It just is not going to happen.

To be fair, I do not see an obligation to so, either. 10 of us from across the spectrum on this board could get a shit ton more accomplished with policy than what this Congress will do.

 

 

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Kazawhatever just said in latest update from carbon county pa (66/33 Trump) Biden actually was ahead in the mail ins. 
 

This is pretty common bc Cult 45 made a point not to VBM. So it’s not a ton of votes. But what it does, and really what is the canary in the coal mine in PA, is consistently show that when all votes are counted, Biden runs a few points ahead of Clinton in Trump counties. That’s enough to get the job done with how narrow the margin was last time, let alone adding in Trump getting bulldozed in the Philadelphia area.
Posted
13 minutes ago, Jive Turkey said:

Meanwhile, Bannon wants Trump to start beheading Fauci and other “traitors.”

 

STEVE BANNON (HOST): Second term kicks off with firing Wray, firing Fauci.

Now I actually want to go a step farther but I realize the president is a kind-hearted man and a good man. I'd actually like to go back to the old times of Tudor England, I'd put the heads on pikes, right, I'd put them at the two corners of the White House as a warning to federal bureaucrats. You either get with the program or you're gone -- time to stop playing games. blow it all up, put Ric Grenell today as the interim head of the FBI, that'll light them up, right.

JACK MAXEY (CO-HOST): You know what Steve, just yesterday there was the anniversary of the hanging of two Tories in Philadelphia, these were Quaker businessmen who had cohabitated if you will with the British while they were occupying Philadelphia. These people were hung. This is what we used to do to traitors.

BANNON: That's how you won the revolution. No one wants to talk about it. The revolution wasn't some sort of garden party, right? It was a civil war. It was a civil war.

 

I’m glad they agree that traitors should be hung. Looks like they want to be first in line.

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Posted
1 minute ago, slorch said:

@Brisket,  I don't see anything reasonable about Trump's approach should he stay.   That is expecting a miraculous change.  I would never expect it.

as far as Dems reaching across the aisle, hell we can't even get past crazy ass minimum wage and guaranteed income for everyone on the other thread about appealing to non-dems..  Dems have been kicked around, and I don't expect some conciliatory session until 2022.   It just is not going to happen.

To be fair, I do not see an obligation to so, either.

 

 

What's crazy about minimum wage? It has stagnated for 40 fuckin years and is no longer anywhere close to a living wage.

Posted
21 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Trump GAINED over 1.1 million votes in Texas?? Good lord that's depressing. 

~200k net or so gain by Dems.  Chalk it up to population increase and Californian migration.

Posted (edited)
25 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

That is the take of Schindler and I don't think he is wrong on this. My big fear has been and continues to be that Biden will have four years of economic peril due to the pandemic, tax cuts, and the crazy spending the GOP did prior to the pandemic and four years of the right yammering about it. He may get it turned around just in time for their soft shoe number that lulls everybody into believing the GOP is not the authoritarian oligarchy they aspire to be. Trapped in their own growing nationalistic intercine fights, our former allies may not be able to help.

 

Biden's campaign was a bland as any in recent memory.  If he governs that way or doesn't, it may not matter.  The Dems likely have the same problem they had in 2016 - a bench of none to weak candidates.  Buttigieg and Yang seem to be the only ones that have showed interest in framing the issues in new ways.  There are ways to craft it into a populist messaging framework, but it will take courage.  Democrats still lack courage politically.

The woke shit won't win elections, unless it magically becomes popular.  Narrator: it won't.

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Posted
16 minutes ago, Jive Turkey said:

Meanwhile, Bannon wants Trump to start beheading Fauci and other “traitors.”

 

The "Ready to Love" poster in the background really hits home with his message.

 

Posted
1 minute ago, MoJames said:

Haha, Fox News continuously talking about Philadelphia and how they believe it could be fraudulent but very careful to not say fraud.

That one dude is so pissed. He refuses to let the black guy make a point 

Posted (edited)
2 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

What's crazy about minimum wage? It has stagnated for 40 fuckin years and is no longer anywhere close to a living wage.

another thread, but minimum wage isn't meant to be a "living wage."  Never has been.

 

Want more, do more.

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Posted
35 minutes ago, sachick said:


Fuck the healing. 13 justices and free healthcare and college for everyone.

This election was a repudiation of Trump.  Not of a massive shift to socialist ideals.  The more radical the agenda, the more divided we become.

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Posted
41 minutes ago, Skipper said:

The "establishment" will try but these fucks have completely hijacked the party.   I look at these tweets as much as drawing lines in the sand for '24 as much as asking for support right now.

i just had a thought......

split the right.... cheeto takes his share, gop takes the scraps, and we finally get a viable 3rd party that allows the dems to, over time, disconnect from pacs and banks.

john anderson holla.

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Posted
Just now, slorch said:

another thread, but minimum wage isn't meant to be a "living wage."  Never has been.

But someone has to do that job. That person shouldn’t be able to make a living wage?

Posted
Just now, slorch said:

another thread, but minimum wage isn't meant to be a "living wage."  Never has been.

That is a common, categorically incorrect myth about living wage. It's just about the easiest one in the world to debunk, too. I don't know where you people get this shit.

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Posted
3 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

Correct, but that means that Trump also has to win Nevada and Arizona which seems unlikely (especially NV).

Everyone seems very confident about NV, but I'm not sure I see it yet. It's only an 11k lead in a state that Hilldawg won by 2 points. Is it just the assumption that mail-in votes are going to be majority D? 

Posted
8 minutes ago, elfenix said:

i'm sure enchubben is very concerned

Tag me you coward!   

To be honest i don't really know this guys deal or his connection to the GOP or Trump, but if he's saying what was posted up above then I'm cool with locking the dude up. Crazy people on both end fucking blow.

Posted
Just now, Hookah Horns said:

Everyone seems very confident about NV, but I'm not sure I see it yet. It's only an 11k lead in a state that Hilldawg won by 2 points. Is it just the assumption that mail-in votes are going to be majority D? 

Almost all the vote still to be counted (90%) of it is from Clark County....the heavy D.

Posted
Just now, Hookah Horns said:

Everyone seems very confident about NV, but I'm not sure I see it yet. It's only an 11k lead in a state that Hilldawg won by 2 points. Is it just the assumption that mail-in votes are going to be majority D? 

The Nevada sensei has spoken. 90% of remaining ballets are Clark County.  

Posted
1 minute ago, gmr548 said:


If Nevada and AZ go D it’s over. That’s 270

Nevada is blue - they just haven't called it yet because then they'd be calling Biden the president-elect and no one is ready to make that call given the current 'climate'.



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