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I am so thrilled tonight! I spoke with my mom and asked her how my dad was taking the election. She said after every network declared Biden the winner, he turned off Fox News and said “Well, glad t

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This was my experience in Galveston County, except for one thing. I came in and presented my ID to the geriatric at the front who printed out my pin number. I took my pin number to a table where two B

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1 minute ago, totallynotabuttpirate said:

If my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle. Everyone you just named wouldn't have beaten Trump, they couldn't even beat Biden in their own party. Holy batman this is a dumb game. 

I’m just using your logic. We have no idea how someone else would have done. Biden won the primary and the general election by running a Biden campaign. He got the job done so he deserves credit but I’m not going to pretend like he’s a great candidate. 

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3 minutes ago, totallynotabuttpirate said:

If my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle. Everyone you just named wouldn't have beaten Trump, they couldn't even beat Biden in their own party. Holy batman this is a dumb game. 

  To beat Trump you need a moderate, with an opposite temp. You needed to capture both Dems and also anybody but Trumpers. You also needed to appeal to the browns. Biden did all of those well enough to crack 300. Not sure who else could've done it. Honestly, I think if Hillary reran with a see I told you so she could've done it now that there is game film on Trump.

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If you are truly trying to get your point across you would say he lost ground to Hillary's numbers in 16.

Jesus man, I think we actually agree on the interpretation of the data here.  I said "Biden gave ground to Trump with minorities".  That is functionally equivalent to saying "Biden lost ground to Hilllary's numbers in 16". 

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  To beat Trump you need a moderate, with an opposite temp. You needed to capture both Dems and also anybody but Trumpers. You also needed to appeal to the browns. Biden did all of those well enough to crack 300. Not sure who else could've done it. Honestly, I think if Hillary reran with a see I told you so she could've done it now that there is game film on Trump.

I agree. Hillary just had too much baggage and then you have the sexism. Biden is difficult to hate and hard to pin shit on. You saw Trump trying multiple nicknames and none of them really stuck. That's Biden's superpower. 

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1 minute ago, Thatguy said:

  To beat Trump you need a moderate, with an opposite temp. You needed to capture both Dems and also anybody but Trumpers. You also needed to appeal to the browns. Biden did all of those well enough to crack 300. Not sure who else could've done it. Honestly, I think if Hillary reran with a see I told you so she could've done it now that there is game film on Trump.

 

10 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

I know that I cannot ever overcome the strawmen people build up around what I actually post. 

Y'all should know that if they don't vote for Biden, they aren't black.

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1 minute ago, totallynotabuttpirate said:

I agree. Hillary just had too much baggage and then you have the sexism. Biden is difficult to hate and hard to pin shit on. You saw Trump trying multiple nicknames and none of them really stuck. That's Biden's superpower. 

  I think that is true of 16 Hillary, but after the shit show that was the last 4 years I think people were ready to get back to actual politicians. I know I was.

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I think in the end, Biden was the right choice because of the Midwest.  We will never know, but I think a "comfort" candidate coupled with anti-Trump sentiment won out in PA/MI/WIS.  I do think it's possible other candidates might have done a little better in some other states.

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The Democrats ran the most moderate candidate possible, and we had historic turnout, and Trump is still getting 48% of the vote despite 41% approval rating, which clearly is bullshit.  

Yep, it was just that kind of election. Dems got blamed by millions of morons for not lining up to sacrifice people in the name of the economy. 

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1 minute ago, totallynotabuttpirate said:

I was wondering when you'd show up to take your medicine. 

What medicine? Keep senate, gain house. I'm not really that mad, it's also nice that intersectionality looks to have some cracks, to where people are wondering why those pesky browns voted the way they did for Trump.

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2 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

 

Y'all should know that if they don't vote for Biden, they aren't black.

You should know that when Biden said that I agreed with him. You'd be a fucking idiot to vote for that clown whilst being blessed with melanin. Biden was right. Whenever you vote for the guy who's campaign flag just replaced the confederate flag as the new identifier for racists, you are a fucking fool.

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3 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

What medicine? Keep senate, gain house. I'm not really that mad, it's also nice that intersectionality looks to have some cracks, to where people are wondering why those pesky browns voted the way they did for Trump.

Except the “browns” didnt vote for Trump, they went even more for Biden than they did Clinton.  See the graph above. 

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What medicine? Keep senate, gain house. I'm not really that mad, it's also nice that intersectionality looks to have some cracks, to where people are wondering why those pesky browns voted the way they did for Trump.

Well yea, but there's still two pesky little runoffs to keep the senate. But seriously, dems at best will win one of those. 

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4 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

The Democrats ran the most moderate candidate possible, and we had historic turnout, and Trump is still getting 48% of the vote despite 41% approval rating, which clearly is bullshit.  

It sucks....... 

1 thing I always hated about Trump is that he hates the job of president. He doesn’t like doing the work. He doesn’t take it seriously, but at the same time the guy is obsessed with being re-elected. He would have those stupid Nuremberg rallies which are ground zero for white trash America every other week. It seemed like the dude spent more time campaigning then any presidential candidate in history. Unfortunately. I hate to say it paid off for him. Republican turnout was way higher than me and nearly all of the experts expected. 
 

even if we take trump out, which I’m sure we will. The election was disappointing in just about every other way besides the presidential race.

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And I’m just asking from the primaries, despite how much trump sucks, who wins?  All they had on Joe was Hunter and trying to make him out to be a socialist.  And the socialist shit worked.  
Dems could have rolled out a potato and gotten the same allegations and result. Milquetoast biden = Aoc with our stupid ass country
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5 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Biden basically ran on “Trump is awful but Republicans are still okay.”  Yeah, that was enough for Biden to win which he needed to do because he’s Joe Biden.  

It’s just silly to think someone else couldn’t have beaten Trump.  I don’t know if Bernie would have won either but it’s certainly possible. 

It's a difficult pull though.  The chirping is that we need a unified message to hammer but the Dems need different messages for different areas and groups because there's a lot of diversity in their camp.  Democrats follow a logical course as well.  Trumpanistas don't.  They follow a brand, regardless of whether it's against their interests such as some of the Latinos in Texas, Cubans in Florida, Appalachian coal miners--they, like most Americans, need unemployment, healthcare, education, livable wages, affordable housing, and a unified COVID message. They all need these things but reject socialism at the polls.  They have to be educated and that takes time.

I thought COVID and unemployment would provide the largest and loudest possible messages, even more so than DOTARDS grifting.  Nope, didn't persuade massive groups of Americans.  Biden energized the base like their lives depended on it because they do and yet, DOTARD is somehow getting more votes than before, even though states are literally on fire, people are dying and jobless, and elderly have defected.  Biden pulled more votes out of Texas for Dems than prior and Trump still whipped out over a million more.  That's tough to beat.  

If Biden wins, it's pretty certain that he was the best candidate available.   

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32 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:
And I’m just asking from the primaries, despite how much trump sucks, who wins?  All they had on Joe was Hunter and trying to make him out to be a socialist.  And the socialist shit worked.  

Dems could have rolled out a potato and gotten the same allegations and result. Milquetoast biden = Aoc with our stupid ass country

Biden said that Romney was going to put black people back in chains. 

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1 minute ago, Michael Knight said:

 

 

I'm not sure I agree with you a hundred percent on your police work, there, Don.

So the votes the last two days are all illegal because there aren’t election observers. 
 

but there are. 
 

and the remedy is to not count them.

but it’s not. It’s to recount with correct supervision. 
 

other than that though...

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39 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

I have no idea.  I’m just pushing back on this idea that only Biden could have beaten Donald Trump, a mass murdering criminal moron. 

i get what you’re saying, and in theory, sure. but you’re wrong.

68mm+ people just voted for dipshit. they weren’t voting against hillary this time. the head moron gets the other morons out in droves.

this is not a warren/bernie/pete issue, this is an america issue. we fucking suck as a country. only biden wins this. that’s the depressing truth. 

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41 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:
And I’m just asking from the primaries, despite how much trump sucks, who wins?  All they had on Joe was Hunter and trying to make him out to be a socialist.  And the socialist shit worked.  

Dems could have rolled out a potato and gotten the same allegations and result. Milquetoast biden = Aoc with our stupid ass country

yup. 

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2 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

i get what you’re saying, and in theory, sure. but you’re wrong.

68mm+ people just voted for dipshit. they weren’t voting against hillary this time. the head moron gets the other morons out in droves.

this is not a warren/bernie/pete issue, this is an america issue. we fucking suck as a country. only biden wins this. that’s the depressing truth. 

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