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Reggie Miller: Russ has got to start being selfish here. Rest of the World: Uhhhhhhhhh....

BigOrange1
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this is fantastic:    

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durant "exposed" without steph.  jesus you're a fucking idiot.

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On ‎3‎/‎31‎/‎2018 at 2:03 PM, Message Board User said:

For shits and grins I took a closer look at the 4-8 spots in the West and where the teams might end up.

Spurs - Currently 44-32 - Remaining games Houston, at LAC, at LAL, Portland, SAC, at NOLA.  I could see the Spurs go 1-5...or 5-1.  So I'll say they go 3-3 the rest of the way and up 47-35.

Wolves - 44-33 - Utah, at Denver, at LAL, Memphis, Denver.  Will also finish 47-35.

OKC - 44-33 - at NOLA, GS, at Houston, at Miami, Memphis.  46-36.

Utah - 43-33 - at Wolves, LAL, LAC, at LAL, GS, at Portland.  I'll be generous and give them 4 wins, putting them at 47-35.

NOLA - 43-33 - OKC, Memphis, at PHX, at GS, at LAC, Spurs.  47-35 as well.

LAC - 41-35 - Indiana, Spurs, at Utah, Denver, NOLA, LAL.  Can't see more than 4 wins here.  45-37 and out of the playoffs.

Denver - 41-35 - Milwaukee, Indiana, Minnesota, at LAC, Portland, at Minnesota.  Just like with LAC, 5-1 is possible, but not likely,  45-37 as well.

This would put OKC in the 8 spot at 46-36 and (assuming conference record is the tiebreaker - I think it is but not 100% sure) 4-7 would go  (4) Minnesota, (5) Utah, (6) SAS, (7) NOLA.

In the East, it's a little crazy but Philly might end the season on a 16 game winning streak (they're currently at 9), even without Embiid.  Their schedule the rest of the way: at Charlotte, BKN, at Detroit, Cleveland (this game will probably determine the 3 seed), Dallas, at ATL, Milwaukee.

Just a huge win for OKC at NOLA tonight.

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big night in the association tonight:

raptors @ cavs

wizards @ rockets

celtics @ bucks

warriors @ thunder (tnt)

pacers @ nuggets (pacers still alive for the #3 spot in the east, denver can probably only afford 1 more loss if they want to make the playoffs)

spurs @ clippers (tnt)

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Nuggets are going to hold on against the Pacers, giving the 3 seed to the Cavs-76ers winner this week and putting Denver just 1 back in the loss column to NOLA, OKC, and Minnesota.

Missing the playoffs for any of those 3 teams would be borderline catastrophic, given the expectations heading into this season.

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1 hour ago, BigOrange1 said:

i dunno.  they finish @ houston, @ san antonio, @ denver and vs. utah.  that is not easy.  if the spurs win tonight, they'd only be 2 back.

They're still in the driver's seat as the Spurs have a very difficult end to their season as well..... but.....

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Damian Lillard hit 6-of-20 shots, 2-of-10 3-pointers and 15-of-15 free throws for 29 points, five rebounds, eight assists, two steals and a block, but suffered a potentially severely sprained left ankle in Tuesday's ugly 115-109 loss to the Mavericks.

As if losing to the Mavericks during a playoff battle isn't bad enough, Lillard, who never left the game, had to be carted from the locker room to the team bus after the game. "I think I have a pretty high pain tolerance but I’m going to be smart about it," he said after the game. "It’s the end of the season, we’re going into playoffs so I have to be smart that one thing doesn’t turn into another." The Blazers could potentially get caught by the Spurs, but are still the No. 3 seed with a 2.5 game lead as we type this. But with the Blazers in the playoffs either way, Lillard could end up resting his ankle for the rest of the regular season

 

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LeBron once again needs to shut the fuck up and stop creating so much drama. Now he has legitimate beef with Nick Saban? He’s gonna be damned if Nick Saban steals his intellectual property? Oh my God. The guy is an absolute beating sometimes. Never in the history of truly all-world talents (Babe Ruth, Wayne Gretzky, Pelé, MJ, etc) has someone been such a bitchass, sanctimonious, whiner. He takes a W when he fights back on the “Shut up and dribble” comments, but he takes a huge L every time he makes the same sized stink about something so stupid, trivial, and where he is clearly in the wrong. Taking on Nick Saban. GTFO.

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10 hours ago, UDontKnow said:

Shocked I tell ya. Spurs had a 11 point lead going into the final frame where they give up 41 and lose by 3. There goes their streak of 50+ win seasons.

Perhaps appropriate that the chance to get to 50 wins was thrown away in the same manner as a number of other games against mediocre teams this year: after taking a sizable lead into the final minutes. Once again LMA gets cut out of the offense after having dominated all night, with the expected results. That said, the LAC guards shot really well late. 

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7 hours ago, Goo Punch said:

LeBron once again needs to shut the fuck up and stop creating so much drama. Now he has legitimate beef with Nick Saban? He’s gonna be damned if Nick Saban steals his intellectual property? Oh my God. The guy is an absolute beating sometimes. Never in the history of truly all-world talents (Babe Ruth, Wayne Gretzky, Pelé, MJ, etc) has someone been such a bitchass, sanctimonious, whiner. He takes a W when he fights back on the “Shut up and dribble” comments, but he takes a huge L every time he makes the same sized stink about something so stupid, trivial, and where he is clearly in the wrong. Taking on Nick Saban. GTFO.

That is why Lebron is the biggest douche in sports. Besides the fact that Saban's show is concerning a completely different sport, Lebron has no copyright of the term "shop" or "barbershop", and therefore he has no leg to stand on. So stupid. Bron gonna Bron

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31 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

Biggest douche? Until he makes fake twitter accounts to defend his honor, he doesn't even come close.

Yes he is a bigger douche than Durant. The fake twitter account was stupid but doesn't even come close to the entire body of work Lebron has compiled. This 'shop talk' beef with Saban is ridiculously trivial and petty, besides not being in violation of any copyright. Lebron thinks he is some kind of legal expert now.....lulz

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And the Pistons salary situation is a dumpster fire - my favorite salary here is probably $10+ million to Josh Smith the next 2 seasons.

 

Payroll Table
  Salary  
Player Age 2017-18 2018-19 2019-20 2020-21 2021-22 2022-23 Signed Using Guaranteed
Team Totals   $120,086,105 $117,754,336 $110,253,546 $70,621,597 $38,957,028     $370,165,932
Blake Griffin 29 $29,512,900 $31,873,932 $34,234,964 $36,595,996 $38,957,028   Bird Rights $132,217,792
Andre Drummond 24 $23,775,506 $25,434,263 $27,093,019 $28,751,775     Cap Space $76,302,788
Reggie Jackson 27 $16,000,000 $17,043,478 $18,086,956       Bird Rights $51,130,434
Jon Leuer 28 $10,497,319 $10,002,681 $9,508,043       Cap Space $30,008,043
Langston Galloway 26 $6,666,667 $7,000,000 $7,333,333       MLE $21,000,000
Ish Smith 29 $6,000,000 $6,000,000         Cap Space $12,000,000
Anthony Tolliver 32 $3,290,000           Bi-annual Exception $3,290,000
Stanley Johnson 21 $3,097,800 $3,940,402         1st round pick $7,038,202
James Ennis 27 $3,028,410           Room exception $3,028,410
Luke Kennard 21 $2,759,280 $3,275,280 $3,827,160 $5,273,826     1st Round Pick $6,034,560
Reggie Bullock 27 $2,500,000 $2,500,000         Cap space $2,500,000
Jameer Nelson 36 $2,262,871             $2,262,871
Henry Ellenson 21 $1,780,800 $1,857,480 $2,856,804       1st Round pick $3,638,280
Eric Moreland 26 $1,739,333 $1,826,300 $1,913,267       MLE $1,739,333
Dwight Buycks 29 $748,160 $1,600,520         Two-Way Converted $748,160
Kay Felder 23 TBD           Two-Way Contract TBD
Reggie Hearn 26 TBD           Two-Way Contract TBD
 
Josh Smith 32 $5,400,000 $5,400,000 $5,400,000         $16,200,000
Michael Gbinije 25 $500,000             $500,000
Aaron Gray 33 $452,059             $452,059
Luis Montero 24 $50,000             $50,000
Beno Udrih 35 $25,000             $25,000
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24 minutes ago, Machinator said:

I want Doris Burke to replace those bozos Jackson and Van Gundy as the analysts on ESPN's A-team. Mike Breen and Burke do very well together as a commentator duo.

With all due respect, Doris Burke never does well with anything. Van Gundy is awesome. And he's great at poking fun at that bozo Jackson.

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damn the western conference playoff race is crazy as hell.  1 team with 33 losses, 4 teams with 34 losses, 1 with 35 and 1 with 36.  pretty cool because every night there are a game or two featuring these teams going at each other.  tomorrow night we have clippers @ jazz (clippers probably can't afford to lose again) and wolves @ nuggets.  

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13 hours ago, Message Board User said:

And the Pistons salary situation is a dumpster fire - my favorite salary here is probably $10+ million to Josh Smith the next 2 seasons.

 

Payroll Table
  Salary  
Player Age 2017-18 2018-19 2019-20 2020-21 2021-22 2022-23 Signed Using Guaranteed
Team Totals   $120,086,105 $117,754,336 $110,253,546 $70,621,597 $38,957,028     $370,165,932
Blake Griffin 29 $29,512,900 $31,873,932 $34,234,964 $36,595,996 $38,957,028   Bird Rights $132,217,792
Andre Drummond 24 $23,775,506 $25,434,263 $27,093,019 $28,751,775     Cap Space $76,302,788
Reggie Jackson 27 $16,000,000 $17,043,478 $18,086,956       Bird Rights $51,130,434
Jon Leuer 28 $10,497,319 $10,002,681 $9,508,043       Cap Space $30,008,043
Langston Galloway 26 $6,666,667 $7,000,000 $7,333,333       MLE $21,000,000
Ish Smith 29 $6,000,000 $6,000,000         Cap Space $12,000,000
Anthony Tolliver 32 $3,290,000           Bi-annual Exception $3,290,000
Stanley Johnson 21 $3,097,800 $3,940,402         1st round pick $7,038,202
James Ennis 27 $3,028,410           Room exception $3,028,410
Luke Kennard 21 $2,759,280 $3,275,280 $3,827,160 $5,273,826     1st Round Pick $6,034,560
Reggie Bullock 27 $2,500,000 $2,500,000         Cap space $2,500,000
Jameer Nelson 36 $2,262,871             $2,262,871
Henry Ellenson 21 $1,780,800 $1,857,480 $2,856,804       1st Round pick $3,638,280
Eric Moreland 26 $1,739,333 $1,826,300 $1,913,267       MLE $1,739,333
Dwight Buycks 29 $748,160 $1,600,520         Two-Way Converted $748,160
Kay Felder 23 TBD           Two-Way Contract TBD
Reggie Hearn 26 TBD           Two-Way Contract TBD
 
Josh Smith 32 $5,400,000 $5,400,000 $5,400,000         $16,200,000
Michael Gbinije 25 $500,000             $500,000
Aaron Gray 33 $452,059             $452,059
Luis Montero 24 $50,000             $50,000
Beno Udrih 35 $25,000             $25,000

I'd argue that 20M for an equally useless Jon Leuer is almost as bad.

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yeah, that still doesn't make "the process" any less embarrassing. 

How's it embarrassing? Being stuck in 13-22 purgatory is the absolute worst scenario to be in?

 

Fans understand it just like gms. But we don't lose our job if we're paid to tank. The chances of landing a transition talent or signing a marquee free agent if you're in that range are slim.

 

 

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13 minutes ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

How's it embarrassing? Being stuck in 13-22 purgatory is the absolute worst scenario to be in?

 

Fans understand it just like gms. But we don't lose our job if we're paid to tank. The chances of landing a transition talent or signing a marquee free agent if you're in that range are slim.

 

 

purposely losing for YEARS is not embarrassing?

More importantly, how often has tanking actually worked?  are we counting the Sixers as "working" already?

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Was Seattle/OKC tanking when they got 3 picks in the top 5? That seemed to work out for them.

Philly is definitely better off than they would have been without tanking.

Different sport, but the Astros got their first championship after tanking for 5 years. It's a legitimate strategy, even if it's embarrassing and shady.

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51 minutes ago, Dutchrudder said:

Was Seattle/OKC tanking when they got 3 picks in the top 5? That seemed to work out for them.

Philly is definitely better off than they would have been without tanking.

Different sport, but the Astros got their first championship after tanking for 5 years. It's a legitimate strategy, even if it's embarrassing and shady.

PHI LOOKS like they will be good but there are still a lot of ifs.   Right now, was a 4th seed worth 5 yrs of record breaking shitiness?

I don't think SEA/OKC was tanking.   They were bad but were only really down a couple yrs. 

The only time I would say it worked was the half a season SA did it to get Duncan and again that was a half of a season.

 

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