Texas Re-Opening Announced

[Storm the Field 5366]

Abbott press conference going on right now.

Existing stay-at-home order expires 4/30 and will not be renewed.

All local orders are superseded if they conflict with state order. 

Phase 1 of re-opening begins Friday 5/1. Retail, restaurants, movie theaters and malls can re-open at 25% occupancy levels.

Phase 2 will begin on Monday 5/18 if infection data remain steady and no setbacks. Capacity can increase to 50%. Bars, gyms, barber shops, and other additional categories will be considered for re-opening in Phase 2. No decision yet on those. 

Rural counties with very limited case numbers may be able to skip ahead to Phase 2.  Apparently this would apply to almost half the state.

[tantric superman 4668]

[Ghost of LL 15698]

Well, at this point, he very well may get sued.  Because that is contrary to Chapter 418 of the Government Code.  He can't supersede local control on this.

[tantric superman 4668]

1 minute ago, longhornmatt said:

Everyone is just going to go buck wild until cases ramp up and they get scared again.

I think that is kind of the point.  If you want to be scared, for yourself, or your parents, act accordingly.

Good luck.

 

[Dr Fear 1290]

What is a "bar" and what is a "restaurant" ???

[kevwun 16437]

We may go hangout with some friends at their houses, but ain't no way in hell I'm going to a restaurant or a bar right now.

[4th&Five 41984]

so we open things up friday and there isn't enough time before phase 2 kicks in to even know if we're having a spike.  brilliant.

[Storm the Field 5366]

Chron tweet thread has a lot more details:

 

[GhostOfTomJoad 9508]

So Abbott agrees that everyone should be "encouraged" to wear a mask, but his order supersedes and local jurisdiction and prohibits any fines for people not wearing masks.

Is this like 'praying for rain' during a drought?

[Nice Guy Eddie 13725]

What happened to Abbott not being the Governor of Houston?

[DaysOff 8198]

I'd go to a movie at 25 percent capacity if I was in the last row so nobody breathes down on me. Unfortunately everything Hollywood produces is shit, so no need.

[GRHorn 105]

21 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

I haven’t seen his statements, but I suppose the logistics of Phase 1 and Phase 2 seem reasonable enough on paper.    However:

1.  Superseding local rules that impose additional limits is ridiculous and I would think illegal.   Not only is population density a huge factor in the spread, but realistically there are about  7-8 metro areas in the state whose hospitals will be treating everyone, including all the rural and small town people.  Telling the cities things are golden and suck it up because Eden hasn’t been hit hard is absurd. 

2.  It would be one thing if our population could be trusted to distance on their own like Sweden.   We won’t.   We already weren’t as of the end of last week when it was just hinted that Abbott wouldn’t renew the stay at home.   Now that it’s official, there will be no gradual reopening.  Everyone is just going to go buck wild until cases ramp up and they get scared again.

I thought we shouldn't reopen anything because it won't be the same anyway?

The CR types will stay home. The DT types will be on the patio at Chuy's with my family on Friday afternoon.

When someone gets sick with social media posts downplaying the virus, yall will celebrate.

When the world doesn't end over the summer, DT types will celebrate.

Time is a flat circle

 

Edited April 27, 2020 by GRHorn

[TonyTexas 10740]

18 minutes ago, Dr Fear said:

What is a "bar" and what is a "restaurant" ???

Yeah. You’re  going to see a lot of bars invest in microwaves

[DigglerontheHoof 21548]

22 minutes ago, Dr Fear said:

What is a "bar" and what is a "restaurant" ???

I imagine if 51% or more of the store income is booze, it'll be considered a bar. 

[Hookah Horns 3089]

There are not going to be any new movies to run for a while. 

[mdmost 43948]

I can't wait to go to a theater to watch the same 5 movies that I can get for rent or purchase at my home right now on Apple TV but without the threat of getting a possibly deadly virus. Sign me up.

[miguelito 11499]

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Retail, restaurants, movie theaters and malls can re-open at 25% occupancy levels.

Will those kinds of businesses be profitable at 25% capacity?  Seems like they'd be better off staying closed.  I guess we'll find out.

[Continental Op 3934]

Well yeah but if those business CAN be open then their insurers probably don't have to pay business interruption claims and the state won't have to pay anyone who says "Yeah fuck that!" when they get called back to sling cocktails for any swinging dick off the street, which is the entire point of this exercise. 

[StassneyHorn 6767]

The lines to get into malls will drive people to Amazon/online shopping if they haven’t already.

[Chuckie Finster 23038]

22 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

I thought we shouldn't reopen anything because it won't be the same anyway?

The CR types will stay home. The DT types will be on the patio at Chuy's with my family on Friday afternoon.

When someone gets sick with social media posts downplaying the virus, yall will celebrate.

When the world doesn't end over the summer, DT types will celebrate.

Time is a flat circle

 

Man, fuck you for this bullshit.  I don't want anyone to get sick.  

[DigglerontheHoof 21548]

Just now, Chuckie Finster said:

Man, fuck you for this bullshit.  I don't want anyone to get sick.  

He can't help it, that's the way trumpkins think.  Any win must be at someone else's expense. 

[FORTY NINE TO ZERO 2651]

The deaths from the second wave will be on his hands. 
 

its as simple as that. 
 

I don’t see how this doesn’t fail horrible unless we up testing and tracing drastically. 

[4th&Five 41984]

Just now, GRHorn said:

I thought we shouldn't reopen anything because it won't be the same anyway?

The CR types will stay home. The DT types will be on the patio at Chuy's with my family on Friday afternoon.

When someone gets sick with social media posts downplaying the virus, yall will celebrate.

When the world doesn't end over the summer, DT types will celebrate.

Time is a flat circle

 

the world won't end for all of us but for 100,000+ it will. if you get out of this thing without being directly touched by it then you are very lucky.

Edited April 27, 2020 by 4th&Five

[kevwun 16437]

DSHS supposedly has a testing and tracing plan in place.  They are going to start doing regional testing sites this week.

[Dbeasy 15561]

46 minutes ago, Dr Fear said:

What is a "bar" and what is a "restaurant" ???

a restaurant is where I tell my wife I am headed.  Bar is where the guys think we are headed. Strip club is where we really end up.

Edited April 27, 2020 by Dbeasy

[GRHorn 105]

2 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Man, fuck you for this bullshit.  I don't want anyone to get sick.  

Don't be such a pussy.

Of course not every poster on here will, but all you have to do is look at the other thread. Anytime someone who was at a protest gets sick, Karma! Etc

[Continental Op 3934]

Just now, Xian said:

The deaths from the second wave will be on his hands. 
 

its as simple as that. 
 

I don’t see how this doesn’t fail horrible unless we up testing and tracing drastically. 

Testing doesn't matter!  We just have to see who winds up in the hospital/dies but also we are feverishly working to increase the testing capacity that doesn't matter because God forbid we wait 2 more weeks to get that in place! 

[Mo Horn 8937]

I will gladly say I hope I'm 100% wrong and every Dotard supporter gets to laugh at me, but I fear we are nowhere near to peak of this, and the more that people gather right now the higher the final number will be. 

[Storm the Field 5366]

53 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

Well, at this point, he very well may get sued.  Because that is contrary to Chapter 418 of the Government Code.  He can't supersede local control on this.

Doesn't sound like City of Houston will be the one to fight that battle.

 

[6th Street 6686]

Anyone who risks getting sick over a slice over some cargo shorts from Aeropostale, body spray from Bath and Body Works, and a slice of sbarro pizza deserves the Rona. 

[Zepol87 9340]

So does this change anything with unemployment benefits? I haven't read anything about it yet but I assume it would change some things.

 

[workswithseed 2204]

48 minutes ago, kevwun said:

We may go hangout with some friends at their houses, but ain't no way in hell I'm going to a restaurant or a bar right now.

That's what we've been doing with one family. 

[Ghost of LL 15698]

22 minutes ago, miguelito said:

Will those kinds of businesses be profitable at 25% capacity?  Seems like they'd be better off staying closed.  I guess we'll find out.

Most restaurants aren't going to be profitable at anything less than 75% capacity.  So they're in much better shape staying closed.  And I think Abbott knows that.

17 minutes ago, Continental Op said:

Well yeah but if those business CAN be open then their insurers probably don't have to pay business interruption claims and the state won't have to pay anyone who says "Yeah fuck that!" when they get called back to sling cocktails for any swinging dick off the street, which is the entire point of this exercise. 

That's what this is all about--it's a sop to the insurance industry.

[SimonBolivar 11062]

1 minute ago, workswithseed said:

That's what we've been doing with one family. 

Kinky

[GreenspointTexas 9958]

Lol this is a horrible idea

 

Our surgical hospital (which does about 400-500 cases a month) applied for a covid testing machine over a month ago and isnt going to be receiving it until may 28th.

 

heaven help the other places trying to get one. In no way, shape, or form do we have the logistical side of this down enough to even think about opening at this time

 

be ready for another shelter in place coming around late june/early july

[GRHorn 105]

6 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

I won’t even be happy if you get sick, despite your implications.   I hope you do get to celebrate this summer.   Maybe you could even broaden your celebration to being happy about widespread death and misery coming to an end, in addition to the obvious joy you’d get from being kind of right about something political on the internet.

I am happy that Corona, to this point, has been underwhelming. I was an alarmist originally.

At this point I think we'll get to have a relatively normal summer. Fingers crossed. The fall/winter will be a different story.

I get little joy from being right on the internet. It's provided diminished utility over time.

[GRHorn 105]

4 minutes ago, GreenspointTexas said:

Lol this is a horrible idea

 

Our surgical hospital (which does about 400-500 cases a month) applied for a covid testing machine over a month ago and isnt going to be receiving it until may 28th.

 

heaven help the other places trying to get one. In no way, shape, or form do we have the logistical side of this down enough to even think about opening at this time

 

be ready for another shelter in place coming around late june/early july

Have you had to use all your PTO?  Is your group paying you?

[Surly Bevo 25718]

3 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

That's what we've been doing with one family. 

What am I talking about? I'm talking about sex, boy. What the hell are you talking about? I'm talking about l'amour. I'm talking me and Dot are swingers...as in "to swing.I'm talking about wife-swapping. I'm talking about what they call open marriage.

[4th&Five 41984]

you keep saying that for some reason.  is 60,000 dead already NBD to you?

 

[SubliminalHorn 7007]

There will be an inevitable spike in a few weeks/months and we’ll be right back at square one. All because we have no way of fully testing and tracking allowing us to quarantine and isolate. These past 4-6 weeks have been for naught. 

[GreenspointTexas 9958]

Just now, GRHorn said:

Have you had to use all your PTO?  Is your group paying you?

We dont get PTO, only get paid if we work (which is fine, im down for that). Lost 20k in the last month because we didnt work until last week with the shut down

 

Im totally in favor for being shut down for another 3 weeks or so. My fear is that we have opened wayyyy too soon and will be forced to shut down another 2-3 times before this is all over

[David Dennison 19518]

43 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

I thought we shouldn't reopen anything because it won't be the same anyway?

The CR types will stay home. The DT types will be on the patio at Chuy's with my family on Friday afternoon.

When someone gets sick with social media posts downplaying the virus, yall will celebrate.

When the world doesn't end over the summer, DT types will celebrate.

Time is a flat circle

 

And when we have another stay at home order?

[kevwun 16437]

1 minute ago, 4th&Five said:

you keep saying that for some reason.  is 60,000 dead already NBD to you?

 

He REALLY likes Chuy's margaritas.

[4th&Five 41984]

wrong thread

Edited April 27, 2020 by 4th&Five

[Hefeweizen 5443]

6 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

I am happy that Corona, to this point, has been underwhelming. I was an alarmist originally.

At this point I think we'll get to have a relatively normal summer. Fingers crossed. The fall/winter will be a different story.

I get little joy from being right on the internet. It's provided diminished utility over time.

60k dead is underwhelming?  Glad we didn’t get your whelming scenario.  
 

we’re Headed to 100k.  I’ll celebrate being under that by fall.

[David Dennison 19518]

4 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

you keep saying that for some reason.  is 60,000 dead already NBD to you?

 

That is going to be the spin from the right. Anything under a million will be portrayed as a win by Trump supporters.

They are ghouls.

[Beau Vine 55859]

1 hour ago, longhornmatt said:

1.  Superseding local rules that impose additional limits is ridiculous and I would think illegal.   Not only is population density a huge factor in the spread, but realistically there are about  7-8 metro areas in the state whose hospitals will be treating everyone, including all the rural and small town people.  Telling the cities things are golden and suck it up because Eden hasn’t been hit hard is absurd. 

I've driven through Eden several times.  That place has been hit hard with something.

[Hookah Horns 3089]

10 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

I am happy that Corona, to this point, has been underwhelming. I was an alarmist originally.

At this point I think we'll get to have a relatively normal summer. Fingers crossed. The fall/winter will be a different story.

I get little joy from being right on the internet. It's provided diminished utility over time.

Underwhelming. Wow. 

[GRHorn 105]

6 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

And when we have another stay at home order?

That's probably going to happen anyway during the next cold/flu/Rona season. I'd say 75% chance.

I say when there's a window here in the summer we take advantage of it.

As I've said before I think the only tweak might be letting kids stay in school. Not because it's necessarily the right thing to do, but because when the utility of public education becomes truly questioned in the fall, there will be push from the Left to keep kids in school.

[Hefeweizen 5443]

1 minute ago, Beau Vine said:

I've driven through Eden several times.  That place has been hit hard with something.

The prison closed.