Texas Re-Opening Announced

[gmr548 16513]

Ive been super careful in all this to the point of getting teased.
That said. Let my son play fall soccer or nah? First tourney is in SA for labor day. Thoughts

Fwiw we aren't doing in person school.
I'm more curious about thoughts on outdoor transmission.

Outdoor transmission in general isn't a big cocern but I'd probably avoid a large group contact sport. JMO.

[Post Oak 20187]

6 minutes ago, Born to Run said:

Ive been super careful in all this to the point of getting teased.
That said. Let my son play fall soccer or nah? First tourney is in SA for labor day. Thoughts

Fwiw we aren't doing in person school.
I'm more curious about thoughts on outdoor transmission.

To each his own but that's a no for me.  

Ive told my kids that they'll stay home for two years if we have to.

Plus the stuff published today about long term heart issues from Covid just reinforces it in my opinion.

It's just not worth it.

Ive talked to my kids about my great grandparent living during 2 World Wars and the Depression and about having to endure tough times. I don't think they really understand but we still talk about it. 

I don't know what is right.  We've made it this far by staying in and not taking unnecessary risks and that's working.  

Good luck with what you decide.

 

 

[Foosters 17733]

We're sending our preschool age daughter to an all outdoor day camp in 2 weeks. I change my mind daily.

[CooterBrown 17911]

We're sending our preschool age daughter to an all outdoor day camp in 2 weeks. I change my mind daily.

5 years old and outside for 8+ hours a day in 95+ temps.

You’re most likely not winning dad of the year.

[tx 3 putt 76386]

32 minutes ago, Foosters said:

We're sending our preschool age daughter to an all outdoor day camp in 2 weeks. I change my mind daily.

95 but feels like 110 !

[Nolacycling 893]

34 minutes ago, Foosters said:

We're sending our preschool age daughter to an all outdoor day camp in 2 weeks. I change my mind daily.

Pre-school.

All Outdoor.

That's a lot of latrine digging

 

[StassneyHorn 6540]

Not one person alive has more than fleeting memories from when they were 6 years or younger. Soccer doesn’t mean shit

[Beau Vine 54002]

1 hour ago, Born to Run said:

Ive been super careful in all this to the point of getting teased.
That said. Let my son play fall soccer or nah?

I mean, he can already get seriously injured playing soccer.  

How much worse can Covid be?

[Foosters 17733]

Kinda forgot what thread I was in when I posted but it's not in TX. It'll be mid 80s and dry. 

[WhatTheBuck 28712]

10 hours ago, JimmyJames said:

Kids don’t spread the virus is one of the dumber GOP talking points of late. That’s just ridiculously stupid. 

[justhookit 4180]

6 hours ago, Patrick Bateman said:

Yes, they lag, but we also just changed the way we declare data.

You keep saying this. It’s wrong. There is no reason to even look at those numbers on a national scale because that data is meaningless.The data regarding cases, positive rate, hospitalizations, and deaths are still being reported at the county and state level. What’s changed is they aren’t reporting more specific hospital numbers to CDC. Did you bother to look at the 40 page pdf of the new requirements? Deaths are getting reported more accurately and timely. If anything this would make Trump look bad. He[s screwed things up epically but so far this doesn’t seem to be one of them.

[justhookit 4180]

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This sudden and radical decision to change hospital reporting from the CDC to a private third party (TeleTracking) within the Department of Health and Human Services will disrupt established lines of communication and has grave potential to hobble our ability to respond to the pandemic by allocating resources like tests, personal protective equipment and hospital beds, and crafting policies that prevent new infections. Data requirements in an emerging pandemic may not be static; as knowledge and evidence evolve, data systems may need to capture new elements. The CDC is a “trusted broker” of data. This is critical in a pandemic where the financial stakes have never been higher.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/07/28/covid-19-hospital-data-cdc-column/5478847002/

I mean, ok, so your contention is that CDC has been doing a good job? Name a single thing they’ve done. This change may not be a good thing, but it can’t possibly be worse than doing nothing at all. It’s a beauracratic maneuver to stay relevant. As to the bolded, if that’s what CDC has been in charge of they are a complete failure. I’m not sure what the argument is here. 

Trump maybe hasn’t been listening to CDC. I have no clue what they are telling him. He’s not going to magically start listening now. Maybe if we give him his own little data aggregating entity, and the news is bad, he will listen. I doubt it, but it’s a better alternative than doing the same thing we’ve been doing since January.

[tx 3 putt 76386]

So is abbott going to take a side on the schools oPening ?

[InkaUtexas 25518]

Texas State asked returning students to Self Quarantine for 2 weeks prior to returning. Great concept, but how many will listen? In my son's case he has a job, is deemed essential. Does this mean he quits now? Also this is not that easy to do when you are moving. 

Here we go. San Marcos is going to see the uptick we all expect. 

 

 

[kevwun 15652]

5 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

So is abbott going to take a side on the schools oPening ?

He's going to delay, then waffle and manage to piss off everyone.  It's his superpower. 

[Ghost of LL 15492]

He's going to delay, then waffle and manage to piss off everyone.  It's his superpower. 

Pretty much. His weakness and indecision is turning into a real political liability.


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[Pig Bellmont 8691]

7 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

Pretty much. His weakness and indecision is turning into a real political liability.


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More than that. People are dying unnecessarily 

[Beantown Express 2.0 6554]

20 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

Pretty much. His weakness and indecision is turning into a real political liability.


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He just can't seem to stand up for what is right.

[HornOnTheBayou 8881]

11 hours ago, Born to Run said:

Ive been super careful in all this to the point of getting teased.
That said. Let my son play fall soccer or nah? First tourney is in SA for labor day. Thoughts

Fwiw we aren't doing in person school.
I'm more curious about thoughts on outdoor transmission.

My son's team was doing optional practices this summer. I was iffy on it, but I watched the practices and the coach did a great job making sure they kept their distance from each other. They only worked on drills like passing and shooting so they were far apart from each other. During water breaks, the coach put cones on the sideline six feet apart so they knew where to sit and rest. Even at the end of practice when they would usually huddle up and do their cheer, they just did it from wherever they were standing on the field after the last drill. I was cool with it also because this was the only time he got to socialize in-person with his peers and he always looked forward to it.

The season itself got delayed until mid-September. I'm still worried about actual games then though. We've pretty much decided he's going to do virtual school until December.

[Beau Vine 54002]

41 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Texas State asked returning students to Self Quarantine for 2 weeks prior to returning. Great concept, but how many will listen? In my son's case he has a job, is deemed essential. Does this mean he quits now? Also this is not that easy to do when you are moving. 

Here we go. San Marcos is going to see the uptick we all expect. 

 

 

We're not going to have that many f2f classes.

[InkaUtexas 25518]

1 minute ago, Beau Vine said:

We're not going to have that many f2f classes.

Nah, I know. I have heard the bitching about increased fees for online classes. So some kids quarantine. Some can't. Now toss them all into dorms/apartment complexes and lets see how that works out. 

Daughters university went 100% online except for people with compelling needs to live in dorms. And they reduced fees for online classes. 

[Beantown Express 2.0 6554]

We chose virtual for my son in High School for the first 9 weeks.  We are in the Dallas suburbs.  The school said 40% of the students have elected to be virtual and 60% chose face to face classes.  I wonder how long the face to face will last.

[relapse98 634]

53 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Texas State asked returning students to Self Quarantine for 2 weeks prior to returning. Great concept, but how many will listen?

Do I need to go on my rant again about how we f'ed around and went all ostrich this summer?

Aint a god damned one gonna quarantine for 14 days.

[InkaUtexas 25518]

2 minutes ago, relapse98 said:

Do I need to go on my rant again about how we f'ed around and went all ostrich this summer?

Aint a god damned one gonna quarantine for 14 days.

Yes please. 

[Beau Vine 54002]

12 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Nah, I know. I have heard the bitching about increased fees for online classes.

$150 per class.  I could literally have done all of my summer class on the McGraw Hill site and use 0 Texas State online resources and they'd still charge $150.  I'd be bitching too if I were a student.

[Bozo_Casanova 26283]

1 hour ago, Ghost of LL said:

Pretty much. His weakness and indecision is turning into a real political liability.


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I don't think that's what it is. My read of Greg Abbott is that he's a purely political creature.  He followed the easy political path before the first wave reached Texas, and then pivoted when it hit and his calculus changed. It's not weakness. He just doesn't seem to  think in terms of practical impact or efficacy. His problem as it stands now is that the reality-based center coalition of Texas politics is now actively rejected by the activist base of the GOP.  To keep the first he has to actually address the crisis and to keep the second he must not.

He can't win without both camps and right now neither trust him.

Edited July 30, 2020 by Bozo_Casanova

[InkaUtexas 25518]

10 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

$150 per class.  I could literally have done all of my summer class on the McGraw Hill site and use 0 Texas State online resources and they'd still charge $150.  I'd be bitching too if I were a student.

Since I pay my son's tuition I am not that happy about it either. But I guess they need to pay for that bad ass football program somehow. 

[Bozo_Casanova 26283]

1 hour ago, InkaUtexas said:

Texas State asked returning students to Self Quarantine for 2 weeks prior to returning. Great concept, but how many will listen?

When I think of Texas State students, the first word that comes to my mind is not "prudence."

[Brisketexan 104624]

12 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

When I think of Texas State students, the first word that comes to my mind is not "prudence."

I bet there's a hot girl named Prudence somewhere.

[relapse98 634]

11 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

I bet there's a hot girl named Prudence somewhere.

Stage 5 at Yellow Rose.

[Patrick Bateman 3903]

9 hours ago, justhookit said:

You keep saying this. It’s wrong. There is no reason to even look at those numbers on a national scale because that data is meaningless.The data regarding cases, positive rate, hospitalizations, and deaths are still being reported at the county and state level. What’s changed is they aren’t reporting more specific hospital numbers to CDC. Did you bother to look at the 40 page pdf of the new requirements? Deaths are getting reported more accurately and timely. If anything this would make Trump look bad. He[s screwed things up epically but so far this doesn’t seem to be one of them.

What the fuck are you talking about?  I'm simply saying that while there will be lags, in the short-term, as Texas catches up with it's new reporting system, there could be and have been larger numbers reported.  

And here....

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07/27/texas-coronavirus-deaths/?utm_campaign=trib-social-buttons&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

 

 

Edited July 30, 2020 by Patrick Bateman

[justhookit 4180]

On 7/28/2020 at 4:31 PM, Patrick Bateman said:

Since the WH demanded data go to the HHS and not the CDC, hospitalization data has magically disappeared....

 

I’m talking about this. If I misread your latest post then my bad. It looked to me that you were implying the same thing.

[Patrick Bateman 3903]

2 minutes ago, justhookit said:

I’m talking about this. If I misread your latest post then my bad. It looked to me that you were implying the same thing.

Then respond to that and not 3 days later.  You're barking up the wrong tree.

 

[tx 3 putt 76386]

The 46th annual Texas Renaissance Festival will go on as scheduled this year, but things will look a little different due to the pandemic.

[Neonmoon 38127]

4 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

The 46th annual Texas Renaissance Festival will go on as scheduled this year, but things will look a little different due to the pandemic.

[mdmost 42865]

8 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

The 46th annual Texas Renaissance Festival will go on as scheduled this year, but things will look a little different due to the pandemic.

Well, in fairness, you can't really get the true Renaissance experience unless a possibly fatal disease is involved. Though you should be forced to sign a waiver that your treatment if you catch the Roni is you have to use Renaissance era medical techniques to try to cure yourself. Bleeding, I believe, was the preferred method back then. 

Edited July 30, 2020 by mdmost

[Foosters 17733]

Better have these guys walking around for authenticity.

 

 

[ultimaton 2966]

13 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

The 46th annual Texas Renaissance Festival will go on as scheduled this year, but things will look a little different due to the pandemic.

[bolverk 29399]

[NameAlreadyInUse 5106]

I was wondering where the hell I was going to find a turkey leg during all this....

[Bama Chick 28596]

I watched “Versailles” on Netflix a couple of weeks ago (really great show if you like period pieces/historical drama) and they had a storyline about “The Sweat”.

And the physicians all had those plague cone nose masks.

I actually wondered to myself if I could buy one to wear around town.

It would be fun to watch the reactions of the local yokels.

[NameAlreadyInUse 5106]

4 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

I watched “Versailles” on Netflix a couple of weeks ago (really great show if you like period pieces/historical drama) and they had a storyline about “The Sweat”.

And the physicians all had those plague cone nose masks.

I actually wondered to myself if I could buy one to wear around town.

It would be fun to watch the reactions of the local yokels.

You can definitely buy those.  Worst case do some online shopping at a new orleans mask shop if you can't find them anywhere else.  They'll have a variety to choose from.

[Chooky 13302]

5 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

I watched “Versailles” on Netflix a couple of weeks ago (really great show if you like period pieces/historical drama) and they had a storyline about “The Sweat”.

And the physicians all had those plague cone nose masks.

I actually wondered to myself if I could buy one to wear around town.

It would be fun to watch the reactions of the local yokels.

You're overestimating their knowledge of history.  They'll just compliment you on your "Spy vs Spy" costume.

[Homesickhorn 2202]

I watched “Versailles” on Netflix a couple of weeks ago (really great show if you like period pieces/historical drama) and they had a storyline about “The Sweat”.

And the physicians all had those plague cone nose masks.

I actually wondered to myself if I could buy one to wear around town.

It would be fun to watch the reactions of the local yokels.

[Grade of D as in David 13253]

2 hours ago, Bama Chick said:

I watched “Versailles” on Netflix a couple of weeks ago (really great show if you like period pieces/historical drama) and they had a storyline about “The Sweat”.

And the physicians all had those plague cone nose masks.

I actually wondered to myself if I could buy one to wear around town.

It would be fun to watch the reactions of the local yokels.

Yes and when asked the word of the day is Fidelio.

 

[FORTY NINE TO ZERO 2630]

Mayor Turner is the man

[Bama Chick 28596]

“You may not have the money to feed and clothe them but you damn well better send them kids to school!”

[troph 24562]

We are home schooling it’s official. No way I’m letting our kids be used as political pawns.

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13546]

Up at 430 or 500 to head to the hospital, usually home around midnight, 134 days straight. Let's open up these schools.

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2020/07/health/coronavirus-houston-hospital/

“One of the hardest things to watch was after a man died, they put his belongings in a plastic bag next to him — just basketball shorts, a T-shirt, shoes,” she said. “And it really struck me that this man died without his family and friends being there to say goodbye.

“No one deserves anything like that, and we all have a part to play in making sure that that doesn’t happen to more people in Texas.”

[Pig Bellmont 8691]

Abbott, unsatisfied with just responsibility for ever rising death toll who is weak on action to control the virus, now wants to kill children too. 
 

 

This is reckless. Unbelievable.