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18 minutes ago, ChuckNorrisActionJeans said:

Please clarify this for me: I could have sworn that the TX supremes said that election administrators or other officials are not REQUIRED to inquire about disability.... not that they are in fact prohibited from doing so. This is the one thing that gives me pause. 

Not sure I would say that’s even a possibility of happening. My previous post where ai said authority vs requirement wasn’t by design, that was me crafting the post without any concern for the distinction. This is the best I got for you though, page 23. Second bolded sentence might help ease concern

https://www.txcourts.gov/media/1446711/200394.pdf

“The State has conceded that Respondents have no discretion to do anything but determine whether the voter is entitled to vote by mail and process the application accordingly.” The State acknowledges that the Election Code does not require election clerks to “investigate each applicant’s disability.” Indeed, the Legislature rejected the requirement of a physician’s proof of disability for mail-in voting applications when it amended the Election Code in 1981.And the application form provided by the Secretary of State requires only that voters check a box indicating whether the reason seeking a ballot by mail is a disability. The voter is not instructed to declare the nature of the underlying disability.The elected officials have placed in the hands of the voter the determination of whether in-person voting will cause a likelihood of injury due to a physical condition. The respondents do not have a ministerial duty, reviewable by mandamus, to look beyond the application to vote by mail. Moreover, while the State has alleged that the Clerks are accepting “improper application,” there is no evidence in the record that any has accepted a faulty application.

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18 minutes ago, ChuckNorrisActionJeans said:

Please clarify this for me: I could have sworn that the TX supremes said that election administrators or other officials are not REQUIRED to inquire about disability.... not that they are in fact prohibited from doing so. This is the one thing that gives me pause. 

Read for yourself.  https://www.txcourts.gov/media/1446711/200394.pdf

I think you are correct that election administrators are not required to investigate, but still could, as could politically inclined DAs, etc.

However, the language that it is up to the voter to decide probably precludes a prosecution.

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34 minutes ago, ChuckNorrisActionJeans said:

Please clarify this for me: I could have sworn that the TX supremes said that election administrators or other officials are not REQUIRED to inquire about disability.... not that they are in fact prohibited from doing so. This is the one thing that gives me pause. 

Also, if you just wanna call or email your county contact, go for it. People who work in the government at this level WANT to help.Friday at 6 probably isn’t the best time though

https://www.sos.state.tx.us/elections/voter/county.shtml

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One of the infinite things that pisses me off about this is that the "close all places with > 51% alcohol and let restaurants roll on at 50% capacity" is extremely imprecise.  There's a brewery up the street from me in Dallas (Odd Muse Brewing.  If you're in north Dallas check them out.  They're doing good work.).  They have a tap room.  Since they've been allowed to reopen, they've continued curbside pickup allowed walk ins to come in and buy cans/crowlers to go, and opened up very limited seating for on premises consumption.   If you don't have a mask on when you come in they'll crack open a box of masks and give you one put on or you can leave.  If you are not seated at a table you have to have a mask on at all times.  Every time I've gone by to buy cans there have been maybe 3 or 4 parties of 4 or 5 people spread out in the tap room and maybe one or two people buying cans.  There are a ton of big restaurants within a 3 or 4 mile radius where there's way more people packed in more tightly with way more movement happening.  I don't understand how that's not more of a threat to public health.  

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On 6/25/2020 at 9:00 AM, Hiphopopotamos said:

You can't have 25 people in a house together and be 'social distancing'.  What a bunch of fucking idiots*

 

As I type this I'm getting texts from my sister about the 4th of July party they're having at my parents (70+ years old) - I won't be attending.  I've interacted once with my parents since this thing started - and my parents looked at me an my kids like we were crazy when we said we wouldn't go in the house

 

My mother, age 76, is having a fucking garage sale in a few weeks, along with my two sisters and other family. They wanted me and my wife and daughter to drive 500 fucking miles to Kyle to help them with it.  After my mom called me and told me, I called my sister and let her fucking have it over the phone. I may be dis-invited from all future family gatherings after that phone call.

 

 

On 6/25/2020 at 9:26 AM, triplehorn said:

I hadn’t seen that yet.  Like a modern day polio.  Horrible.

 

A friend of my wife from High School (age 46 or so) got it and now has lung damage that may be permanent. Wheel chair bound.  

 

 

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My mother, age 76, is having a fucking garage sale in a few weeks, along with my two sisters and other family. They wanted me and my wife and daughter to drive 500 fucking miles to Kyle to help them with it.  After my mom called me and told me, I called my sister and let her fucking have it over the phone. I may be dis-invited from all future family gatherings after that phone call.

 

 

 

A friend of my wife from High School (age 46 or so) got it and now has lung damage that may be permanent. Wheel chair bound.  

 

 

just found out something similar with a friend of mine. severe respiratory issues after battling and surviving covid

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So...the woman who was exposed as a grifter who took PPP money she shouldn't have, and got some nice luxury items from a Go Fund me, is going even bigger and bolder? Guess we should expect no less in the Trump age of no consequences.

I hate her, but I don't think she wrongfully took PPP money.  Having received PPP money, as well as the gofundme, made her complaints that much more spurious, but there wasn't anything unlawful about it.

She's a terrible person who needs to burn in hell.

Also, Abbott is reaping the whirlwind on this stuff.  Play politics with an epidemic and that's what you get.

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8 hours ago, Yuk said:

I'm sure his EO sounded like a good idea politically when he issued it.  But he's really backed himself in the corner.  Without it, he could blame others for the decisions that need to be made.   With it, he owns this thing.  So now he's "damned if you do, damned if you don't" fucked.

And what sucks for all of us is that this--like so many other important things in our lives--has been politicized into tribalism.  And we can't seem to work together or agree upon facts related to science, all of our livelihoods, or our health.  It's a "you bad, me good" thing.  And it fucking sucks.

We're weak as fuck as a country right now, and boy does it show.

Do you mind starting up another "Beauty of the Universe" thread to help lift our spirits?

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5 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

ABILENE, Texas — The City of Abilene said it will not enforce Governor Greg Abbott's executive order to shut down bars and limit outdoor gatherings of more than 100 people. Instead, City Manager Robert Hanna is encouraging "all business owners and citizens to use common sense."

You know what is common sense for bars and other business owners?  MAKING MONEY.  I'm sure they'll be stringently enforcing social distancing guidelines in the absence of enforcement.

These dumbfucks couldn't fuck us all harder, and kill us all quicker, if they tried.  

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44 minutes ago, ChuckNorrisActionJeans said:

So...the woman who was exposed as a grifter who took PPP money she shouldn't have, and got some nice luxury items from a Go Fund me, is going even bigger and bolder? Guess we should expect no less in the Trump age of no consequences.

She's replacing Pence on the ticket.

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2 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I doubt we see Abbott take another question unless it’s from a friendly “reporter” tossing him an easy question.

he was already not inviting the San Antonio Express News or allowing them to send reporters earlier this week for a press conference.  own it pussy

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On 6/25/2020 at 5:44 PM, JimmyJames said:

True. But a lot of the people who will lose coverage are brown, or poor, or both. Maybe a few white trash lose benefits but oh well. So who gives a shit?

and they'll be happy to lose them. 

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he was already not inviting the San Antonio Express News or allowing them to send reporters earlier this week for a press conference.  own it pussy

both hearst.  i would bet that one reporter is there for both.  also providing coverage to laredo, beaumont, midland, and plainview. 

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7 hours ago, longhornmatt said:

Fucking Abilene is defying an order from the governor to close bars?  That shithole town which has like 11 different Church of Christ colleges and which, according to Google, doesn’t even allow hard liquor sales on Sundays (so as not to burn in hell) ... that fucking place is making a stand to keep bars open?  

Everyone in the GOP has lost their fucking minds.   If some Democrat scientist told them abortion clinics had to shut down because of Covid, at this point they’d probably all try to go get abortions and tell the clinic not to use any masks or hand sanitizer in protest.

That's exactly how those idiots have been for quite a while. They've been groomed to believe, going back to the days of Barry Goldwater (certainly to the days of the Reagan Administration when it transcended into a level of vulgarity at which other countries laugh), that ANYTHING the Democratic Party advances has to be evil, and that they therefore must oppose it. They don't bother looking into the issue; they just vote against it first and then work it back with tortured "logic" and embarrassing apologetics. And nothing ever interrupts the very binary nature of their "reasoning," either. At least one of them is reading this post at this very second and they're thinking, because they have to get all the words in when they go derogatory, "you radical leftist stalinist fascist socialist communist anarchist, you love and support the DNC!!!HILLARY LOVER!!!"

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8 hours ago, longhornmatt said:

Fucking Abilene is defying an order from the governor to close bars?  That shithole town which has like 11 different Church of Christ colleges and which, according to Google, doesn’t even allow hard liquor sales on Sundays (so as not to burn in hell) ... that fucking place is making a stand to keep bars open?  

Everyone in the GOP has lost their fucking minds.   If some Democrat scientist told them abortion clinics had to shut down because of Covid, at this point they’d probably all try to go get abortions and tell the clinic not to use any masks or hand sanitizer in protest.

Hard liquor sales are barred on Sundays everywhere in Texas. Unless you were referring to bars in which case that isn't true they have bars selling hard liquor on Sundays in Abilene. 

Wife has family there so I've made several trips. It's a weird little town where most of the south side of it looks like it's kept up fairly well while almost the entire north side is decrepit and left to rot. Never seen another place that refuses to spend a dime on half of their town. 

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Abbott's office announced some upcoming changes to liquor laws but it's mainly about mixed drinks to-go from restaurants/bars.  

Which is bullshit.  I mean, I'm glad they can make extra money that way but we need to do some really basic shit like just relax beer/wine sales on Sundays.  I'm tired of going to Trader Joe's on Sunday mornings, waiting in that line outside, to get our weekly haul of foodstuffs.  Then I gotta go back at some point during the week, mask up, wait in that line again, all just to buy some beer and wine.  I know the liquor distributor cartels don't care about this law.  Grocery stores and consumers would love it.  TABC would probably like not having to monitor every other convenience store.  The liquor store lobby that keeps booze out of grocery stores doesn't give a shit about the Sunday Noon law either.  Nobody does except a handful of fucking assholes in the Capitol.  You can sit at a bar a 7:01am on a Sunday morning and drink 6 beers and drive home at noon, but you can't buy a six pack at HEB with your weekly groceries?  

Why do people's mythologies get to dictate the software at Trader Joe's that won't allow the clerk to scan my six pack at 10:30am on Sunday?  

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6 minutes ago, Lobo said:

Abbott's office announced some upcoming changes to liquor laws but it's mainly about mixed drinks to-go from restaurants/bars.  

Which is bullshit.  I mean, I'm glad they can make extra money that way but we need to do some really basic shit like just relax beer/wine sales on Sundays.  I'm tired of going to Trader Joe's on Sunday mornings, waiting in that line outside, to get our weekly haul of foodstuffs.  Then I gotta go back at some point during the week, mask up, wait in that line again, all just to buy some beer and wine.  I know the liquor distributor cartels don't care about this law.  Grocery stores and consumers would love it.  TABC would probably like not having to monitor every other convenience store.  The liquor store lobby that keeps booze out of grocery stores doesn't give a shit about the Sunday Noon law either.  Nobody does except a handful of fucking assholes in the Capitol.  You can sit at a bar a 7:01am on a Sunday morning and drink 6 beers and drive home at noon, but you can't buy a six pack at HEB with your weekly groceries?  

Why do people's mythologies get to dictate the software at Trader Joe's that won't allow the clerk to scan my six pack at 10:30am on Sunday?  

8lb 6oz baby Jesus thinks you should be in church on Sunday morning.

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19 minutes ago, Lobo said:

Abbott's office announced some upcoming changes to liquor laws but it's mainly about mixed drinks to-go from restaurants/bars.  

Which is bullshit.  I mean, I'm glad they can make extra money that way but we need to do some really basic shit like just relax beer/wine sales on Sundays.  I'm tired of going to Trader Joe's on Sunday mornings, waiting in that line outside, to get our weekly haul of foodstuffs.  Then I gotta go back at some point during the week, mask up, wait in that line again, all just to buy some beer and wine.  I know the liquor distributor cartels don't care about this law.  Grocery stores and consumers would love it.  TABC would probably like not having to monitor every other convenience store.  The liquor store lobby that keeps booze out of grocery stores doesn't give a shit about the Sunday Noon law either.  Nobody does except a handful of fucking assholes in the Capitol.  You can sit at a bar a 7:01am on a Sunday morning and drink 6 beers and drive home at noon, but you can't buy a six pack at HEB with your weekly groceries?  

Why do people's mythologies get to dictate the software at Trader Joe's that won't allow the clerk to scan my six pack at 10:30am on Sunday?  

Probably an insidious plan to make poor-planning alcoholics suffer until noon.  Probably gets a few to get sober.

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Abbott's office announced some upcoming changes to liquor laws but it's mainly about mixed drinks to-go from restaurants/bars.  

Which is bullshit.  I mean, I'm glad they can make extra money that way but we need to do some really basic shit like just relax beer/wine sales on Sundays.  I'm tired of going to Trader Joe's on Sunday mornings, waiting in that line outside, to get our weekly haul of foodstuffs.  Then I gotta go back at some point during the week, mask up, wait in that line again, all just to buy some beer and wine.  I know the liquor distributor cartels don't care about this law.  Grocery stores and consumers would love it.  TABC would probably like not having to monitor every other convenience store.  The liquor store lobby that keeps booze out of grocery stores doesn't give a shit about the Sunday Noon law either.  Nobody does except a handful of fucking assholes in the Capitol.  You can sit at a bar a 7:01am on a Sunday morning and drink 6 beers and drive home at noon, but you can't buy a six pack at HEB with your weekly groceries?  

Why do people's mythologies get to dictate the software at Trader Joe's that won't allow the clerk to scan my six pack at 10:30am on Sunday?  

Why don’t you buy your foodstuffs when you’re making your liquor run?  It ain’t that difficult.

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The kids are really regimented on their meals.  We are trying to mimic a summer school session with the 5YO.  So she gets to pick what I grill on sundays.  And she likes to look at the groceries and plan out her “school lunches” for the week on Sundays.  Most families pre-COVID plan their meals out for the week ahead of time and shop accordingly.  We may have to pop in now and again during the week for something one-off, but many families do their grocery shopping on the weekends to prepare for the week.  I don’t think it’s an affront to the Lord to allow me to grab some beer and wine between 9-noon in Sunday’s.  Not asking for liquor stores to be open, just let me do all my grocery shopping In one swoop on the weekend. 

tl;dr  Have a daughter with OCD and daddy needs his medicine

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Well I got 3 little German women in my house all with OCD, so yeah---it's necessary to plan out our meals.  Especially now when we can't just up and go to HEB without a curbside appointment or get takeout from wherever we want.  It's a trade-off I made long ago with the wife and the oldest one, we gotta have meal structure or they (and then the baby) lose their shit.  A half hour of planning each weekend makes my week so much more stress-free.  I'm sure that'll change one day, but they're the ones that actually like it that way so I think they'll stick with it.  They plan it and cook it together (I'll pitch in with grilling 2x/week), and all I gotta do is just go pick it up.  It's a good system and I don't want to disrupt it.  

The cutest thing is the 5YO packs her school lunch bag and a little snack one for her sister most mornings and then sits down to eat it at lunchtime like she was in her school cafeteria.  It's helped her stay sane with the idea that she'll be doing fall semester remotely this year.  So if I wanna buy some damn beer on Sunday mornings, tell the Baptists to fuck off!  

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Well I got 3 little German women in my house all with OCD, so yeah---it's necessary to plan out our meals.  Especially now when we can't just up and go to HEB without a curbside appointment or get takeout from wherever we want.  It's a trade-off I made long ago with the wife and the oldest one, we gotta have meal structure or they (and then the baby) lose their shit.  A half hour of planning each weekend makes my week so much more stress-free.  I'm sure that'll change one day, but they're the ones that actually like it that way so I think they'll stick with it.  They plan it and cook it together (I'll pitch in with grilling 2x/week), and all I gotta do is just go pick it up.  It's a good system and I don't want to disrupt it.  

The cutest thing is the 5YO packs her school lunch bag and a little snack one for her sister most mornings and then sits down to eat it at lunchtime like she was in her school cafeteria.  It's helped her stay sane with the idea that she'll be doing fall semester remotely this year.  So if I wanna buy some damn beer on Sunday mornings, tell the Baptists to fuck off!  

The Baptist’s don’t really disapprove of  you buying beer on Sunday mornings, they just want everyone to think that they disapprove of it.

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56 minutes ago, Lobo said:

The kids are really regimented on their meals.  We are trying to mimic a summer school session with the 5YO.  So she gets to pick what I grill on sundays.  And she likes to look at the groceries and plan out her “school lunches” for the week on Sundays.  Most families pre-COVID plan their meals out for the week ahead of time and shop accordingly.  We may have to pop in now and again during the week for something one-off, but many families do their grocery shopping on the weekends to prepare for the week.  I don’t think it’s an affront to the Lord to allow me to grab some beer and wine between 9-noon in Sunday’s.  Not asking for liquor stores to be open, just let me do all my grocery shopping In one swoop on the weekend. 

tl;dr  Have a daughter with OCD and daddy needs his medicine

Team Week Out here.   Everyone who doesn't are obviously lunatics

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