Dallas Cowboys 2018 offseason thread

[futureman 22545]

4 hours ago, Jörgen said:

Who will be best player next year since Dez Bryant left the team?

whoever was last year. 

[Vic Mackey 47151]

I love watching Cowboys and learned a lot from reading here. Who will be best player next year since Dez Bryant left the team?

Dez hasn't been our best offensive player since maybe 2014. But that was as much Romo and Murray as well. 2017 Dez was not worth a shit.

[txbroadcaster 110]

David Irving was so out of shape for OTAs  he basically say them out..that is why i am not as big on him as some. His commitment level never seems to be there.

[Lucid 3]

On 5/26/2018 at 12:15 AM, Jörgen said:

I love watching Cowboys and learned a lot from reading here. Who will be best player next year since Dez Bryant left the team?

Bailey

[GOAT 1]

I think I read Byron Jones is starting at CB right now. Does that mean Jourdan Lewis is playing slot. I thought he played a little better than Chido last year.

[futureman 22545]

On 4/29/2018 at 12:35 AM, futureman said:

don’t sleep on noah brown.  that draft pick wilson is no sure thing to beat him out. 

doubling down here.  jon machota wrote this a day ago:

“The second-year receiver out of Ohio State looked in great shape when we saw him Wednesday. I heard he's been extremely committed to the offseason workout program and has been frequently out there running routes with Dak Prescott whenever possible. It's going to be tough to keep him off this final roster.”

basically I’m a wizard with talent evals and y’all should be paying me to post here.  

[EvilCaseMcCoy 691]

15 hours ago, futureman said:

doubling down here.  jon machota wrote this a day ago:

“The second-year receiver out of Ohio State looked in great shape when we saw him Wednesday. I heard he's been extremely committed to the offseason workout program and has been frequently out there running routes with Dak Prescott whenever possible. It's going to be tough to keep him off this final roster.”

basically I’m a wizard with talent evals and y’all should be paying me to post here.  

We really don't have any other receivers that are his size.  He earned some playing time last year too, which wasn't expected from a 7th round guy. 

[DougO 5256]

Brown is a low ceiling type guy, lacks speed and explosion, doesn't separate well. Decently physical but not dynamic, has pretty good hands. He was used mostly for his blocking ability toward the end of last season. Somewhat similar to Hurns in raw ability, he's a little bit thicker, Hurns is slightly faster. He'll likely never be a star, but could end up being a useful 3rd or 4th receiver. If he were a couple inches taller and another 20 lbs heavier he probably would have made a good TE.

Edited May 28, 2018 by DougO

[Vic Mackey 47151]

 

[TornACL 7722]

I was excited to read that David Irving still isn't practicing during OTAs because he's out of shape. In a contract year.

Fucking imbecile.

[Vic Mackey 47151]

Where did you read that? He's a dumb ass if that's the case.

[futureman 22545]

3 hours ago, TornACL said:

I was excited to read that David Irving still isn't practicing during OTAs because he's out of shape. In a contract year.

Fucking imbecile.

who gives a shit as long as he produces in the fall?  he’s not a team leader.  it’s not even june, he has plenty of time to get tuned up for training camp.  and he’s playing for peanuts compared to his potential impact.  nothing to see here. 

if demarcus lawrence weren’t practicing that would be news-worthy. 

[TornACL 7722]

29 minutes ago, futureman said:

who gives a shit as long as he produces in the fall?  he’s not a team leader.  it’s not even june, he has plenty of time to get tuned up for training camp.  and he’s playing for peanuts compared to his potential impact.  nothing to see here. 

if demarcus lawrence weren’t practicing that would be news-worthy. 

Shit why even have OTAs then? Let's just do nothing until training camp. 

All I know is if I was sitting on a contract year and a chance for a giant pay day at the end of 2018, I would at least be in shape in May. 

[TornACL 7722]

I also love that Futureman wants to be called a genius for seeing the talent in Noah Brown, for no other reason than he's in shape in May and working hard. But he doesn't give a shit that David Irving is not in shape and obviously not committed to an offseason program. 

[kopp0e 1135]

On 5/25/2018 at 7:15 PM, Jörgen said:

I love watching Cowboys and learned a lot from reading here. Who will be best player next year since Dez Bryant left the team?

Elliot...

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Cowboys news: Can Ezekiel Elliott win NFL’s MVP in 2018?

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By Cole Patterson@colelpatterson  May 30, 2018, 4:00am CDT

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Under-the-Radar 2018 NFL MVP Candidates - Maurice Moton, Bleacher Report

Can Zeke win MVP in 2018? Moton names him one of five under-the-radar candidates to take home the prestigious honor next season, though he also mentioned Eli, so take that for what you will.

The Dallas Cowboys will turn to a new chapter without wideout Dez Bryant, but his absence will shine a brighter light on running back Ezekiel Elliott. Don’t expect Hurns, Terrance Williams, Deonte Thompson or rookie Michael Gallup to immediately lift the passing offense as a go-to option.

Hurns, Thompson and Gallup have never caught a pass from quarterback Dak Prescott, so it’ll take time to build chemistry. Williams has been a No. 2-type wideout with ups and downs over the past five seasons.

As the focal point of the offense, Elliott will stand out for another highly productive year similar to his rookie season in which he accumulated 1,994 yards from scrimmage and scored 16 touchdowns.

Assuming Elliott plays all 16 games, the Ohio State product should lead the league in rushing yards and push for the top spot in yards from scrimmage.

Is Ezekiel Elliott’s workload a reason to worry about his future? - Bob Sturm, The Athletic DFW (Subscription)

Zeke would have to carry a big workload next season if he were to win MVP honors, obviously, and that is why Sturm is a little worried about 21’s future.

Elliott is surely one of the best players at his position. From that perspective, the Cowboys did not make a mistake at all. But if we circle back to my “generational” objective to the pick, the true test is whether he is a key factor on the Cowboys’ 2023 roster, too. In a best-case (greedy) scenario, he could also be the man in 2025 at the age of 30.

This is an impossibly high bar, but we know that elite cornerbacks and elite pass rushers routinely play well past their 30th birthdays. And since the discussion hinged on the short- and long-term effects of Joey Bosa versus Jalen Ramsey versus Ezekiel Elliott, I spend a lot of time thinking about this topic – which is why I wanted to write this piece in the first place.

That is why I found Elliott’s usage in his first two years interesting. He has averaged nearly 25 touches per game (24.9). While that might not make anyone forget Edgerrin James’ all-time record (27.5 touches in his first two seasons) or even the NFL leader the last two years – (Le’Veon Bell, 27.48), it is higher than literally every other player in the National Football League.

Ranking the Dallas Cowboys Top 10 Offensive Players - Brian Martin, Inside The Star

Is Zeke the best player on the offensive side of the ball for the Cowboys? That’s debatable.

#4 - RB, Ezekiel Elliott

Ezekiel Elliott is not only one of the best Dallas Cowboys players, but is arguably one of the best running backs in the entire NFL. He is a true three-down back and is dangerous anytime he has the ball in his hands. He consistently has to run against 8 or 9 man fronts and is still able to pick up chunk yards due to his vision and hard-nosed running. The offense simply isn’t the same without him on the field.

Cowboys release two, workout several including RB Darius Jackson - Patrik Walker, Cowboys247

Will the Cowboys be adding another running back to the backfield? 2016 sixth-rounder Darius Jackson is reportedly working out for Dallas.

According to ESPN insider Todd Archer, linebacker Ed Shockley and wide receiver Malik Earl have both been giving their walking papers, as the team makes room to potentially add new faces to their allowable 90-man roster. They’ve already begun working out several hopefuls, and one is very familiar to the team. Running back Darius Jackson is getting yet another chance at impressing the coaching staff and front office after seeing his stint with the team end in a 2016 release.

Jackson was drafted in the sixth-round that same year out of Eastern Michigan, a high-upside talent that joined a then-crowded running back unit. The Cowboys wanted to make room for veteran Darren McFadden in his return from injury, so Jackson was shown the door. He’d land with the Cleveland Browns and spent time on their injured reserve list with a knee injury before now being released and finding his way back to square one with the team who gave him his first shot at the pro level.

What to watch during Week 2 of Cowboys OTAs, like the two DTs Dallas coaches really like - SportsDay team

What did the SportsDay staff believe was the most eye-opening takeaway from the Cowboys’ first week of OTA’s?

What was the most eye-opening observation from the first session of OTAs?

Moore: The fascination with Tavon Austin and what he can bring to the Cowboys offense is understandable. The anticipation has to do with not only what he’ll do, but how he’ll be used. That being said, what caught my eye in the first OTA we were allowed to observe was Deonte Thompson. The free agent receiver has a gear most players on the field don’t. He was the receiver taking screen passes and blowing by defenders, not Austin. His speed was noticeable for an offense that has been missing that trait.

Is Tavon Austin a WR or a RB? The label doesn’t matter to the Cowboys - Drew Davison, The Star-Telegram

Tavon Austin’s versatility will give the Cowboys a lot of options in 2018.

Tavon Austin is listed as a running back on the Dallas Cowboys’ roster. That distinction doesn’t matter to offensive coordinator Scott Linehan.

”Yeah, well, list him as a tight end. I don’t care what they list him as,” Linehan said, jokingly. “Just make sure we’ve got him on the team.”

Austin is viewed as a versatile threat for the Cowboys offense. He can line up outside at wide receiver. He can line up in the backfield. He can do it all.

Cowboys Expecting Assistant Coaches to Make Massive Impact - JJT, NBC DFW

The Cowboys are expecting big things from their newest assistant coaches, Sanjay Lal and Kris Richard.

The two men who might just have the biggest impact on the Cowboys this season aren’t Dak Prescott and Ezekiel Elliott.

It’s not Sean Lee or DeMarcus Lawrence either.

Actually, the dudes I’m talking about don’t even play.

Their names? Receivers coach Sanjay Lal and passing game defensive coordinator Kris Richard.

Think about it, when is the last time you heard about a pair of assistant coaches, who weren’t coordinators, getting as much hype as the Cowboys’ new duo.

You haven’t.

No one has, but each will have a huge impact on the Cowboys’ season.

Every NFL Team’s Biggest Potential Distraction for 2018 - Brent Sobleski, Bleacher Report

How quickly can Dallas get a deal done with Zack Martin?

Dallas Cowboys: Can They Make Zack Martin the NFL’s Highest-Paid O-Lineman

Offensive linemen tend to be overlooked, even when they’re counted among the league’s best. Dallas Cowboys right guard Zack Martin made the Pro Bowl and earned All-Pro honors in each of his first four NFL seasons.

He now wants to be paid.

Dallas has less than $5 million in salary-cap space, according to Spotrac. The team may be better served striking a long-term deal with defensive end DeMarcus Lawrence, who is currently operating under the franchise tag, before addressing Martin’s situation.

Ranking NFL QBs by their 100+ passer rating games delivers some surprising results - OCC, BTB

Our own OCC wrote a great, detailed piece on how the rankings of quarterbacks would look like based on games with a passer rating of 100+. Cowboys fans should like what OCC found.

The table is pre-sorted by the total number of 100+ games. If you sort the table by “100+ games in % of total games started” you’ll see that Aaron Rodgers throws more 100+ rating games than anybody else, and by quite a margin: His rate of 55.6% is almost six points better than the next guy on the list, none other than the Cowboys’ Dak Prescott. With 50%, Prescott has the second-highest percentage of 100+ rating games of all NFL QBs, ahead of guys like Russell Wilson (48%), Tom Brady (47%), Drew Brees (47%), and Philip Rivers(45%).

If you judge a QB by the company he keeps, Cowboys fans should be quite happy with Dak Prescott, as he is in pretty good company in this ranking. And he also compares favorably to Tony Romo, who managed a 51.2% 100+ games % in his 127 career starts.

Entering 2018, Rodgers and Prescott are the only NFL QBs at or above the 50% mark. You may not like it, and you may point to all sorts of extenuating factors, but Dak Prescott has put up numbers in his short career that puts him in an elite category with only Aaron Rodgers and Tony Romo. Can he maintain his pace? Who knows.

With Jason Witten and Dez Bryant gone, the Cowboys are definitely Dak Prescott’s team now - Clarence Hill, The Star-Telegram

Hill writes on Dak’s leadership and how the Cowboys are “his” team now — and he’s ready.

With Jason Witten and Dez Bryant gone, there has been a curiosity among members of the local media about who will fill the leadership void with Dallas Cowboys.

Curiously and more pointedly, it’s not even been a thought among the coaches and players, old and new, at the Cowboys’ world headquarters at the Star in Frisco.

Quarterback Dak Prescott is large and in charge as the face of the franchise. And as the Cowboys head into their second week of OTAs, there is no question that it’s his team now.

There is nobody better positioned to seize control and nobody else the Cowboys would want to do it. More importantly, it just comes naturally for Prescott.

 

Edited May 31, 2018 by kopp0e

[futureman 22545]

13 minutes ago, TornACL said:

I also love that Futureman wants to be called a genius for seeing the talent in Noah Brown, for no other reason than he's in shape in May and working hard. But he doesn't give a shit that David Irving is not in shape and obviously not committed to an offseason program. 

I love how dumb and easy you are. 

[TornACL 7722]

10 minutes ago, futureman said:

I love how dumb and easy you are. 

I know you like to fancy yourself a skilled troll, but your trolls are as tired and terrible as your awful sports takes, and everyone hates you. 

[futureman 22545]

43 minutes ago, TornACL said:

I know you like to fancy yourself a skilled troll, but your trolls are as tired and terrible as your awful sports takes, and everyone hates you. 

so awesome. 

[Vic Mackey 47151]

I love how dumb and easy you are. 

He has a point. You contradicted yourself.

[futureman 22545]

6 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

2 hours ago, futureman said:

I love how dumb and easy you are. 

He has a point. You contradicted yourself.

nope.  noah brown and david irving are two very different players under very different circumstances.  

[TornACL 7722]

They're in the exact same circumstances right now you dolt. 

They're supposed to be in OTAs. One is, and one isn't. 

[DougO 5256]

7 hours ago, Vic Mackey said:

 

I'm not sure what they mean by "no interest in playing him." They certainly weren't going to play a him coming off a major injury that hindered his development as a guy still learning to play to tackle football, much less at an NFL level. I'm sure they will be very interested in playing him if he learns how to play and can perform. That's the whole point to having him take up a roster spot.

Rico has always been a a major longshot to make it, even as just a role player. Still is. The Cowboys certainly maintained an interest in keeping him around to continue to develop him and find out if he can he can make his impressive physical dimensions translate effectively to an NFL field.

Edited May 31, 2018 by DougO

[Patrick Bateman 3932]

9 minutes ago, DougO said:

I'm not sure what they mean by "no interest in playing him." They certainly weren't going to play a him coming off a major injury that hindered his development as a guy still learning to play to tackle football, much less at an NFL level. I'm sure they will be very interested in playing him if he learns how to play and can perform. That's the whole point to having him take up a roster spot.

Rico has always been a a major longshot to make it, even as just a role player. Still is. The Cowboys certainly maintained an interest in keeping him around to continue to develop him and find out if he can he can make his impressive physical dimensions translate effectively to an NFL field.

He’s a very good athlete and therefore gets a lot of interest and run, especially in fantasy circles as a Witten replacement.  Even other usually smart cowboy fans I know have jumped on the bandwagon for Rico already.... I think we take a group approach to replacing our TE production but some are convinced because his ceiling is the highest that he needs to play. I read more on the quote.  Reportedly he’s still a lousy blocker.

Edited May 31, 2018 by Patrick Bateman

[DougO 5256]

I've always seen him as a lottery ticket. It probably won't amount to shit, but I'm not going to throw it away until they call the numbers and he ain't it. If he matches enough numbers to net a few buck, then he's a big success. If he's a great player, he'll be really cool success story. If he flames out, no harm done. It was always a shot in the dark that didn't cost much. It was worth a shot.

Way too many fans get all caught up in the pipe dream scenario because a couple of other basketball players have become good TEs. But it just ain't that simple, or there would be a basketball player at TE on every team. It's a hardass game.

Edited May 31, 2018 by DougO

[Dog Zazz 23]

3 hours ago, TornACL said:

I know you like to fancy yourself a skilled troll, but your trolls are as tired and terrible as your awful sports takes, and everyone hates you. 

It is known.

[Dog Zazz 23]

7 minutes ago, DougO said:

I've always seen him as a lottery ticket. It probably won't amount to shit, but I'm not going to throw it away until they call the numbers and he ain't it. If he matches enough numbers to net a few buck, then he's a big success. If he's a great player, he'll be really cool success story. If he flames out, no harm done. It was always a shot in the dark that didn't cost much. It was worth a shot.

Way too many fans get all caught up in the pipe dream scenario because a couple of other basketball players have become good TEs. But it just ain't that simple, or there would be a basketball player at TE on every team. It's a hardass game.

He made some nice catches last preseason  and he is gigantic, but seems not smart. He’s always talking to the media about how awesome he plans to be, so I’m sure Garret wants to knock him down a peg.

[Vic Mackey 47151]

He made some nice catches last preseason  and he is gigantic, but seems not smart. He’s always talking to the media about how awesome he plans to be, so I’m sure Garret wants to knock him down a peg.

Garrett is a shit ass coach so fuck what he thinks. Rico has potential but I won't be surprised if this team doesn't know how to use him. Like they did with Martellus who went on to have good seasons elsewhere and contributed to a super bowl team.

[Bone3421 716]

Jaylon smith was getting some love on the radio....says he looks jacked and was doing drills without brace

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[Viper 12112]

5 minutes ago, Bone3421 said:

Jaylon smith was getting some love on the radio....says he looks jacked and was doing drills without brace

Sent from my LGMP260 using Tapatalk
 

https://247sports.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/Article/Cowboys-LB-Jaylon-Smith-sheds-fat-added-muscle-and-is-faster-without-brace-118638906

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Speaking from Week 2 of Cowboys' OTAs, he's now revealed to the media he put on eight pounds of pure muscle and reduced his body fat [to] 3.5%. Still not impressed? Let's toss in the fact he adds his 20-yard shuttle time has dropped from 4.03 seconds (with brace) to 3.98 seconds (without). That effectively makes him faster than he was before both Notre Dame and high school.

 

[Viper 12112]

Don't remember if I saw it mentioned here, but the Cowboys signed Darius Jackson their forumer 6th round pick at RB. With Smith, Scarboro and Austin(?) already at RB it may just be something like a flyer

http://www.dallascowboys.com/2017writersblog?sf190680753=1

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Wednesday, the club released guard Jay Robertson and defensive tackle DeQuinton Osborne and signed three players: wide receiver Mekale McKay, defensive tackle Antwaun Woods and running back Darius Jackson, its 2016 sixth-round pick.

 

[EvilCaseMcCoy 691]

We lost Darius Jackson again!? Nooo!  (edit) I misread the post above.

Meanwhile, Dak has lost 10lbs and has been working on his footwork.

http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/2018/05/30/notes-jaylon’s-role-tapper-hurt-dak’s-improvement-vocal-zeke-more

Edited May 31, 2018 by EvilCaseMcCoy

[Mileslong 4728]

We lost Darius Jackson again!? Nooo!  (edit) I misread the post above.
Meanwhile, Dak has lost 10lbs and has been working on his footwork.
http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/2018/05/30/notes-jaylon’s-role-tapper-hurt-dak’s-improvement-vocal-zeke-more

I’m trying to get my girlfriend to lose 10 lbs and work on her technique so this hits close to home

[Sgt Hulk 13839]

Anyone think Scarborough with his size can contribute they the titans used Murray and that numbnutz?  Can he realistically spell zeke so he isn’t running 30 times a game 

[Patrick Bateman 3932]

1 hour ago, Sgt Hulk said:

Anyone think Scarborough with his size can contribute they the titans used Murray and that numbnutz?  Can he realistically spell zeke so he isn’t running 30 times a game 

He's been very, very injury prone during his college career and has a rep as a knucklehead.  Multiple knee injuries IIRC, but he's very talented.  He's a little too upright in his running approach and you wonder if the injuries will pop up and eventually slow him down but he's a physical freak/speciman.  Really, you need a guy that can play about 10-12 snaps if they're intent on playing Austin 10-12 snaps as well from the backfield....

[Dog Zazz 23]

18 hours ago, Vic Mackey said:

20 hours ago, Dog Zazz said:

He made some nice catches last preseason  and he is gigantic, but seems not smart. He’s always talking to the media about how awesome he plans to be, so I’m sure Garret wants to knock him down a peg.

Garrett is a shit ass coach so fuck what he thinks. Rico has potential but I won't be surprised if this team doesn't know how to use him. Like they did with Martellus who went on to have good seasons elsewhere and contributed to a super bowl team.

Martellus is annoying and wouldn’t have changed anything for the Cowboys,  undoubtedly talented though. Garrett is a “shit ass” (nice) coach. Watching him pretend on  “All or Nothing” made me cringe. Hard to be optimistic with him running the show.

[Guest]

On 5/30/2018 at 7:24 PM, TornACL said:

I know you like to fancy yourself a skilled troll, but your trolls are as tired and terrible as your awful sports takes, and everyone hates you. 

Don’t talk to futureman that way, assface. 

[TornACL 7722]

1 hour ago, Rex Kramer said:

Don’t talk to futureman that way, assface. 

Settle down, Colangelo. 

[Machinator 32099]

 

[EvilCaseMcCoy 691]

Damn, Cutting Ndamukong was a no brainer.  Although in Madden, I traded him and Tannehill for first round picks and built a Miami Dynasty that would subsequently win 4 superbowls in a row.

[Gene Parmesan 4014]

11 minutes ago, EvilCaseMcCoy said:

Damn, Cutting Ndamukong was a no brainer.  Although in Madden, I traded him and Tannehill for first round picks and built a Miami Dynasty that would subsequently win 4 superbowls in a row.

Does Madden still have the glitch where the system values draft picks of first place teams over last place teams?  I think I remember a 1st place team's 1st round slot would fetch you the last place teams 1st and 3rd round picks. 

[EvilCaseMcCoy 691]

1 minute ago, Gene Parmesan said:

Does Madden still have the glitch where the system values draft picks of first place teams over last place teams?  I think I remember a 1st place team's 1st round slot would fetch you the last place teams 1st and 3rd round picks. 

I haven't noticed such a glitch

[cmontexas 3281]

9 hours ago, Gene Parmesan said:

Does Madden still have the glitch where the system values draft picks of first place teams over last place teams?  I think I remember a 1st place team's 1st round slot would fetch you the last place teams 1st and 3rd round picks. 

Man that takes me back.

I used to save right before the draft and I would simulate the draft, look up which rookie players had the highest ratings and where they were drafted, the restart the game and draft all the good rookies

[futureman 22545]

2 minutes ago, cmontexas said:

Man that takes me back.

I used to save right before the draft and I would simulate the draft, look up which rookie players had the highest ratings and where they were drafted, the restart the game and draft all the good rookies

so you’re a cheater.  completely unethical. 

[cmontexas 3281]

8 minutes ago, futureman said:

so you’re a cheater.  completely unethical. 

[EvilCaseMcCoy 691]

11 hours ago, cmontexas said:

Man that takes me back.

I used to save right before the draft and I would simulate the draft, look up which rookie players had the highest ratings and where they were drafted, the restart the game and draft all the good rookies

They fixed that.  I supposed you could turn off autosave, but once the draft process starts ur locked in.  I even turned off my ps4 and it created a save point in the middle of the draft.  

[Vic Mackey 47151]

This boat is too small for all of them lol.

[kopp0e 1135]

3 hours ago, Vic Mackey said:

This boat is too small for all of them lol.

Those are some real fishermen's fishing poles that aren't on clearance at your local Wal-Mart...

[Vic Mackey 47151]

 

[gsoda3 3282]

dak to hurns is looking really good. 

[Mileslong 4728]

Those are some real fishermen's fishing poles that aren't on clearance at your local Wal-Mart...

Over/under on how many can swim is 3