What well know companies are going to go away because of this situation?

[G650 14,278]

Best and Zayres were both 80s mainstays here.

[tantric superman 4,668]

There's determined to stay in the saddle and there's committed to stay in the saddle...

 

Holy shit.  I could kill a pandemic fucking around with all these fucking things as long as my wife kept me supplied with Tang, and fried baloney sandwiches....

http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/ShowFeature.aspx?id=52

What were we discussing?

 

[AUS-97HORN 11,824]

amazing that in the middle of the pandemic, Starbucks is still thriving.

I drove by the one on the corner of Rockwood and Anderson Ln around 10 this morning.... the fucking drive through line STARTED just shy of the CVS....

 

easily, EASILY 30 cars just sitting in line for a fucking coffee

[ShaggyBevo RIP 3,868]

3 hours ago, Ignatius said:

Baby steps...let’s just start with Greenspoint on Surly.

Ball game

[tantric superman 4,668]

My wife has gotten uber religious about her coffee run during the pandemic.  She goes to a place called White Rock Coffee, (It's three stores down from a rat bastard Starbucks that is trying to drive them out of business).  She brings me a coffee.  And a scone. 

Which is pleasingly dry.

[Yarbr 123]

9 minutes ago, AUS-97HORN said:

amazing that in the middle of the pandemic, Starbucks is still thriving.

I drove by the one on the corner of Rockwood and Anderson Ln around 10 this morning.... the fucking drive through line STARTED just shy of the CVS....

 

easily, EASILY 30 cars just sitting in line for a fucking coffee

I believe they've been closed and just opened up Friday.

[BevoSwag 272]

Was North Park always an enclosed Mall?  I recall going to NM there with my grandparents on ou weekend back in the late 50's .  I thought it was a bunch of shops in an open air atmosphere.

[ShaggyBevo RIP 3,868]

22 hours ago, Sbbruin said:

I hadn’t had grits until about 5 years ago.  And I’m 53.

Same. I grew up in Texas and Louisiana and never had grits until shrimp and grits became a foodie thing. 

[dingleberryswitzer 2,724]

27 minutes ago, AUS-97HORN said:

amazing that in the middle of the pandemic, Starbucks is still thriving.

I drove by the one on the corner of Rockwood and Anderson Ln around 10 this morning.... the fucking drive through line STARTED just shy of the CVS....

 

easily, EASILY 30 cars just sitting in line for a fucking coffee

You knows what's always been busy around me?  Fuckin Dunkin donuts.  Dunkin donuts sucks ass.  Like I seriously was offended by Dunkin donuts.  Who serves cold donuts?  And I don't mean room temperature, sitting behind the glass cold.    I mean "hey let's keep and serve our donuts in a fridgerator" cold.  And they're building another one even closer to me.  

[zork 629]

 

[RDCanecutter 26,476]

38 minutes ago, tantric superman said:

There's determined to stay in the saddle and there's committed to stay in the saddle...

 

Holy shit.  I could kill a pandemic fucking around with all these fucking things as long as my wife kept me supplied with Tang, and fried baloney sandwiches....

http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/ShowFeature.aspx?id=52

What were we discussing?

 

Hey, I had these guys too, with the hollow-insides horses. Begged Mama to get them for me after I saw them on the grocery store toy rack.

As if 30-year-old tech billionaires even know about grocery store toy racks, the dumbasses.

[RDCanecutter 26,476]

52 minutes ago, tantric superman said:

By the way, maybe you can clear something up.  We never really knew what the hell the guy in back with his hands spread out was doing.  I thought he was in the stocks for sodomy, but my brother thought he was a horsing around and playin' the fool with a cannon rammer.

We called him the "cannon crammer."

[3adays 454]

I thought Bed Bath and Beyond was doomed BEFORE the Covid? Nope, they’re still touting their 20% off coupons.  Despite the odds, I have a feeling these cockroaches are going to survive. 

[MaybeACoordinator 8,349]

39 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

We called him the "cannon crammer."

Notice how the Brits are hanging back while they send the Mohawks ahead for the suicidal full frontal assault. #nogallipoli

[RDCanecutter 26,476]

24 minutes ago, 3adays said:

I thought Bed Bath and Beyond was doomed BEFORE the Covid? Nope, they’re still touting their 20% off coupons.  Despite the odds, I have a feeling these cockroaches are going to survive. 

If Bed Bath and Beyond were to go under. the metro Atlanta area would cave in on itself.

[Grade of D as in David 13,253]

33 minutes ago, 3adays said:

I thought Bed Bath and Beyond was doomed BEFORE the Covid? Nope, they’re still touting their 20% off coupons.  Despite the odds, I have a feeling these cockroaches are going to survive. 

I went to one right before Christmas for the first time in what seems like about 5 or 6 years it was basically crammed with as seen on TV bullshit.

[TwiceHorn 31,551]

1 hour ago, tantric superman said:

My wife has gotten uber religious about her coffee run during the pandemic.  She goes to a place called White Rock Coffee, (It's three stores down from a rat bastard Starbucks that is trying to drive them out of business).  She brings me a coffee.  And a scone. 

Which is pleasingly dry.

That's a good place.  Their coffee doesn't taste like it came out of the bunker of USS Missouri circa 1946.  Pastries are good too.

[TwiceHorn 31,551]

1 hour ago, BevoSwag said:

Was North Park always an enclosed Mall?  I recall going to NM there with my grandparents on ou weekend back in the late 50's .  I thought it was a bunch of shops in an open air atmosphere.

Well it opened in 1965 and I believe basically in the configuration that it is in.  They added the Lord & Taylor wing (NW corner, Park and Boedeker) in the 80s, or 70s, then the Nordstrom wing (Barney's wing at the time, NE corner, Park and Central), food court and theater in the 90s or oughts.  

Prior to that, the only Needless Markup location was downtown, which may be what you are thinking of.  That segment of downtown has always been a little more retail-oriented and less office-building oriented.

Edited May 4, 2020 by TwiceHorn

[BevoSwag 272]

Just now, TwiceHorn said:

Well it opened in 1965 and I believe basically in the configuration that it is in.  They added the Lord & Taylor wing in the 80s, or 70s, then the Nordstrom wing (Barney's wing at the time), food court and theater in the 90s or oughts.  

That makes me think it was open at one time.  I seem to recall it was located on Loop 12 at i35??  Was it maybe called Prestonwood?

[TwiceHorn 31,551]

1 minute ago, BevoSwag said:

That makes me think it was open at one time.  I seem to recall it was located on Loop 12 at i35??  Was it maybe called Prestonwood?

No, it was the worlds first climate-controlled mall.  In the 50s, that area of Dallas was mostly farmland.  Loop 12 and US75.  Prestonwood was absolutely nothing but a mudhole in the 50s.

[rage-a-holic 4,487]

4 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Sterling's long predated both.  Best and Service were pale imitations when they arrived and didn't have guns, IIRC.

You said

Quote

Dallas' version of Best Products and Service Merchandise was Sterling Jewelers. 

There was no "Dallas' version" of Best and SM. Best and SM were in Dallas for many years.

Learn how to express yourself in English.

[clapclapclap 9,000]

2 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

No, it was the worlds first climate-controlled mall.  In the 50s, that area of Dallas was mostly farmland.  Loop 12 and US75.  Prestonwood was absolutely nothing but a mudhole in the 50s.

Nope, Southdale Center in Minnesota was the first, 9 years before NorthPark opened:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southdale_Center

And while the Houston pompom wavers will claim Gulfgate was the first (it opened a month earlier than Southdale), it wasn't enclosed until a decade later.

[Stunns38 3,559]

I certainly remember Zayre.  There was a location by our old house in Arlington Heights that we frequented when we went back up there to visit family on the reg.  
Don't remember Ames or Cook Bros.  But I have a decent-to-good mob/union story and our trucking company related to Goldblatt's.  Oh man, the memories just wash over me sometimes with just the right queue words.  

Ames bought out Zayre I believe. My mom loved(obsessed with) shopping at Goldblatt’s and I think they had those old school cheesy photo studios like Sears with the picture in picture portraits. Cook Brothers still exist but was one of the first to sell cheap Chinese goods that broke right away. Nothing like getting Xmas presents that didn’t work.

[Guest Lobo]

Well J. Crew declared for bankruptcy today.  Who knew Their print catalog-centric sales model coupled with absolutely baffling real estate decisions wouldn't last through the Pandemic?  I think the last thing I bought was about 25 years ago, it looked like Costanza's jacket but in a light khaki color.  I'm gonna pop a beer and pop a collar to them tonight.  

 

 

[Buzzrock 14,948]

Lots of airline talk this morning with Buffett pulling out. I wonder if now is when that business can get disrupted to a model with more small planes and an almost Uber-like experience.

If someone could create a quiet 6-12 passenger jet it would change everything. For now the burbs don’t want the noise of a regional airport.

[NeverMarryAStripper 21,943]

Better than Guns n Roses

[52-80 19,262]

1 hour ago, Buzzrock said:

Lots of airline talk this morning with Buffett pulling out. I wonder if now is when that business can get disrupted to a model with more small planes and an almost Uber-like experience.

If someone could create a quiet 6-12 passenger jet it would change everything. For now the burbs don’t want the noise of a regional airport.

This guy just reinvented the private jet

[52-80 19,262]

And NetJets

[Aqua Buddha 14,624]

Aside their debt load, J Crew's real problem has been their design choices over the past 10 years.  Jenna Lyons designed things that only people like her would wear instead of preppy chic or whatever.  She drove sales off a cliff.

[52-80 19,262]

3 hours ago, Aqua Buddha said:

Aside their debt load, J Crew's real problem has been their design choices over the past 10 years.  Jenna Lyons designed things that only people like her would wear instead of preppy chic or whatever.  She drove sales off a cliff.

https://twitter.com/EddyElfenbein/status/1257305688260345856?s=20Aaa

Edited May 4, 2020 by 52-80

[CHEF DIESEL 126]

21 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Well it opened in 1965 and I believe basically in the configuration that it is in.  They added the Lord & Taylor wing (NW corner, Park and Boedeker) in the 80s, or 70s, then the Nordstrom wing (Barney's wing at the time, NE corner, Park and Central), food court and theater in the 90s or oughts.  

Prior to that, the only Needless Markup location was downtown, which may be what you are thinking of.  That segment of downtown has always been a little more retail-oriented and less office-building oriented.

Actually, there was a Neiman Marcus in Preston Center from 1950-1965 off of Preston and Northwest Highway. It was free standing and not in a mall. I am not sure what corner it was on at Preston Center though. I know that the Titches later turned into a Sanger Harris then a Foleys then the Target/Ross/Office Depot/DSW.

 

[TwiceHorn 31,551]

19 hours ago, rage-a-holic said:

You said

There was no "Dallas' version" of Best and SM. Best and SM were in Dallas for many years.

Learn how to express yourself in English.

Fuck off.  🤬🤬

Until Best and Service showed up in the late 70s or early 80s, Sterlings was it, from at least the 60s (on NW Hwy), and apparently 1948.  It was a "wholesale" catalog showroom like Best and Service, which were elsewhere.  Sears and Penney's were also technically catalog showrooms, but I don't think you would compare them.

The Dallas Sterling's was the only location, although there may have been a similar one in Houston under the name Houston Wholesale Jewelry.  https://www.houstonjewelry.com/our-history.php

It was the same type of store in a city that didn't have that type of store.  Therefore, it was Dallas' version of the stores that it didn't have.

If it had been in Dallas after Service or Best, then you might be correct.  You simply lack perspective.  

🤬🤬

[TwiceHorn 31,551]

19 hours ago, clapclapclap said:

Nope, Southdale Center in Minnesota was the first, 9 years before NorthPark opened:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southdale_Center

And while the Houston pompom wavers will claim Gulfgate was the first (it opened a month earlier than Southdale), it wasn't enclosed until a decade later.

You are correct sir.  I misread the wikipedia and misremembered.  Opened as the largest climate-controlled mall.

[TwiceHorn 31,551]

10 minutes ago, CHEF DIESEL said:

Actually, there was a Neiman Marcus in Preston Center from 1950-1965 off of Preston and Northwest Highway. It was free standing and not in a mall. I am not sure what corner it was on at Preston Center though. I know that the Titches later turned into a Sanger Harris then a Foleys then the Target/Ross/Office Depot/DSW.

 

You are correct, sir.  I remember my parents talking about that.  That apparently is along Preston, on the east side, south of Villanova/Berkshire.  Where Orvis, Houstons or Hillstone, and others are now.

That is probably what BevoSwag is thinking of.

Man, that was the boonies back then.

Hard to imagine all that retail there at that time, but rich folks to be served and the rent was cheaper than HP Village.

Edited May 4, 2020 by TwiceHorn

[rage-a-holic 4,487]

9 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Fuck off.  🤬🤬

Until Best and Service showed up in the late 70s or early 80s, Sterlings was it, from at least the 60s (on NW Hwy), and apparently 1948.  It was a "wholesale" catalog showroom like Best and Service, which were elsewhere.  Sears and Penney's were also technically catalog showrooms, but I don't think you would compare them.

The Dallas Sterling's was the only location, although there may have been a similar one in Houston under the name Houston Wholesale Jewelry.  https://www.houstonjewelry.com/our-history.php

It was the same type of store in a city that didn't have that type of store.  Therefore, it was Dallas' version of the stores that it didn't have.

If it had been in Dallas after Service or Best, then you might be correct.  You simply lack perspective.  

🤬🤬

Again, you're wrong.

If you had said, "When I lived in Dallas after the end of the Korean war, Dallas' version of Store X, Y and Z was Sterling's", you would have been making sense.

Your original statement was akin to saying "The Dallas version of 7-11 was Gomer's Bait Shack", because that was the only place you could buy a Coke and live bait at the time you grew up until 7-11's were everywhere in Dallas.

[TwiceHorn 31,551]

31 minutes ago, rage-a-holic said:

Again, you're wrong.

If you had said, "When I lived in Dallas after the end of the Korean war, Dallas' version of Store X, Y and Z was Sterling's", you would have been making sense.

Your original statement was akin to saying "The Dallas version of 7-11 was Gomer's Bait Shack", because that was the only place you could buy a Coke and live bait at the time you grew up until 7-11's were everywhere in Dallas.

 

Because Sterling's was unique to Dallas, it was "Dallas' version" of the other two, their presence or absence or the timing of same is irrelevant.  They were not from Dallas.

/enough of this

[Larry T. Spider 1,747]

Dallas talk not going away

[Guest Lobo]

That must have been some store, that Sterling. . 

[TwiceHorn 31,551]

4 minutes ago, Lobo said:

That must have been some store, that Sterling. .

It was indeed. Was a ringmeat kid's pretty much heaven on earth. My Dad was fond of the camera department, too. 

[Guest Lobo]

I'm very afraid to ask what a "ringmeat kid" is?  

[TwiceHorn 31,551]

14 minutes ago, Lobo said:

I'm very afraid to ask what a "ringmeat kid" is?  

Rage probably recognizes it.  I'd be disappointed if he didn't.

Salem's Lot

Like Stand By Me, and portions of It, some excellent writing capturing the feeling of being a little kid.

Edited May 5, 2020 by TwiceHorn

[BevoSwag 272]

2 hours ago, CHEF DIESEL said:

Actually, there was a Neiman Marcus in Preston Center from 1950-1965 off of Preston and Northwest Highway. It was free standing and not in a mall. I am not sure what corner it was on at Preston Center though. I know that the Titches later turned into a Sanger Harris then a Foleys then the Target/Ross/Office Depot/DSW.

 

Thank you thank you thank you.  I knew it was in that area.  Grandma got her first pair of "city" shoes there.  

[TwiceHorn 31,551]

2 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

You are correct, sir.  I remember my parents talking about that.  That apparently is along Preston, on the east side, south of Villanova/Berkshire.  Where Orvis, Houstons or Hillstone, and others are now.

That is probably what BevoSwag is thinking of.

Man, that was the boonies back then.

Hard to imagine all that retail there at that time, but rich folks to be served and the rent was cheaper than HP Village.

Also, a bit more my time, the Sanger Harris in Preston Center west was always a Sangers.  Titches became Foleys, then Foleys bought Sangers.  As a result of this, briefly there were two Foleys stores in NorthPark, the former Titches and the former Sangers.

[Grade of D as in David 13,253]

Is this now just the random out of business thread?

 

[MaybeACoordinator 8,349]

5 minutes ago, Grade of D as in David said:

Is this now just the random out of business thread?

 

No. The random out of business place has to have been in Dallas. 

[HiggyBaby 2,547]

Man, I remember TG&Y and Gibson’s. Used to hit those up and then go get some K-Bob’s for dinner. What’s next? Incredible Universe? Anyways, it seems Golds Gym is our next victim. Much like the Q.


https://www.businessinsider.com/golds-gym-bankruptcy-coronavirus-pandemic-2020-5

[Js1 85,602]

18 minutes ago, Grade of D as in David said:

Is this now just the random out of business thread?

 

What well known companies went away 30-50 years ago not related to COVID19

[TwiceHorn 31,551]

Since when have surly threads stayed on topic?

[Grade of D as in David 13,253]

6 minutes ago, Js1 said:

What well known companies went away 30-50 years ago not related to COVID19

Exactly.

I had a Compaq computer in high school. We looked at Gateway but decided to go with the hometown company instead.

You guys remember Pam Am? 

Anyone here have an Edsel?

 

[tbone_ 14,181]

What well known companies went away 30-50 years ago not related to COVID19

That’s what I really meant.