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Many of you have displayed some interest in knowing if hell exists, and whether you or others may go there when you die.  Bear in mind, that Satan works overtime to convince people that He and hell doesn't exist.  That is the furthest thing from the truth.
Perhaps the following information from the Bible will help answer your questions:
1.  Hell was not originally created for man.  It was created for Satan and his angels or demons who rebelled against God in heaven and were cast out and sent to Earth.  Hell will be their eternal place of torment in the future.
2.  Because God made the world perfect in every way, He created man and woman in His image to enjoy His creation in perfect harmony with Himself.  Unfortunately, Adam and Eve sinned by disobeying God,  and as a result, sin entered the world.  Our human nature was then altered so we became aware of what sin was, and apart from God, we could not live a life free of sin.
3.  Knowing this, God demanded that man to be forgiven by keeping the law.  God kept His end of the agreement, but we did not keep our end. We disobeyed God, committed sins, and the sacrifices we offered were not enough as they had to be done on a continual basis.  
4.  Thankfully, God's love for us sinners was greater than we could ever imagine.  He knew from the beginning that man could not live up to the laws that would provide salvation, so His only begotten son, Jesus Christ, was sent to pay for our sins on the cross.  This sacrifice was done once and for all people, so God's wrath and justice were satisfied forever.  And, this gift was offered to anyone willing to call on Him for salvation, to confess their sins, and to accept His gift of forgiveness.  It couldn't be earned any other way.  Good works without faith is not enough.  And, Christ died while we were sinners.  He didn't require us to get right with Him before we are saved.  Once we are forgiven by our trust in Him, His Holy Spirit enters our lives to help us resist the power of sin so that we are no longer slaves to sin.  We may fail at times, but He still forgives us and helps us to lead better lives in His power, and not our own.
5.  Many of the greatest people who ever lived understood the gospel or good news of God, and became believers in the finished work of Christ on the cross.  Most of the greatest scientists were Christians.  Countless others from the richest to the poorest were believers.  Every founder of the Ivy League colleges, except one, was a Christian.  Bach, Beethoven and Mozart were Christians, as was Pascal, Newton, Babbage, Carver, Von Braun, and thousands of others you have read about.  
I leave you with a couple questions and thoughts.  Why would God allow His only son to die a cruel death if there was another way for man to be forgiven of their sins?  He tried every other way, and they didn't work.  Christianity would collapse in a day if Christ had not risen from the dead.  His resurrection proves that He was the Messiah, sent to die in our place for the forgiveness of our sins.  Why is His grave the only vacant tomb of all the other so called founders of other religions?  By the way, Christ did not come to establish another religion.  He came to establish a relationship between sinful men and the one and only true God.  Christ's death was God's judgement against sin so that whosoever believed in Him would not perish, but have everlasting life.  All past, present, and future sins were forgiven once and for all who place their trust in Christ.
I'm not going to hell when I die, not because I don't deserve to be there, but because my faith in His son's death and resurrection paid the ransom for my sins.  I have a received a pardon from God that He paid for.  Why would I reject that?  Why would you?  God does not send anyone to hell.  They send themselves because they have rejected his gift of salvation.
Amos 4:12 says "Prepare to meet God. "  Are you ready to face Him, and to give an account of your life?  You can be ready by turning to Him for salvation, and not trusting in your works.
I suggest you read the Book of John.  You may also read the testimony of Napoleon Bonaparte who was saved shortly before his death on the island of Saint Helena.  I would also recommend seeing the movie, "Paul, the Apostle of Christ."  You may find that these will be helpful in your search for a new life in Christ.


most of you know my background. and over the past few years, i’ve been hesitant and refrained from from theological issues and discussions despite my education and training. i’m a different man over the past 7 years, 3 months and 17 days.

but this shit here is making me rethink that position.


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It's baffling that anyone still believes this silliness.

It's not baffling that there's a huge overlap of the group who believes this bullshit and the group who believes Fox News' bullshit.

I guess the old adage "There's a sucker born every minute and two to take him" is exactly right...

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1 hour ago, George Morgan said:

Really,  the great questions that all people have about life are, "Where did I come from?', "Why am I here", and "Where am I  going after I die?"  The Bible is the only book that can answer those questions because it is the Word of God, our creator.  To know where you are going after you die is of immense importance to most people.  We can trust God's word to tell us the truth without having to rely on our opinions.  There has never been a book written like the Bible.  Over 300 predictions have come true, and no other book in history has been able to predict future events like the Bible has for many centuries.  Hundreds of thousands of scholars have studied the Bible and have not been able to discredit it.  It is the most amazing book ever written.

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Thank you OP.  I feel SAVED, forgiven, and it is though I have had the fog lifted from my mind and soul.  Feel free to PM me on my main account - Derka.   We should meet up.  

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I feel like the Bible is the only book that George Morgan has read.


Not really. The whole “war in heaven” and Lucifer outcast thing has little support in a plain reading of the Bible. There are a couple of vague references that folks have subsequently claimed as support for the myth. No one takes the Bible literally, especially the people who claim they do.
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On 4/14/2018 at 3:04 PM, George Morgan said:

Really,  the great questions that all people have about life are, "Where did I come from?', "Why am I here", and "Where am I  going after I die?" 

I’m a terribly shallow motherfucker, and have never really considered these to be life’s “great questions.”

Question #1 was answered after I found my first porn magazine.....probably around age 7 or so

I’ve never once even contemplated question #2.......only dorks like Davey & Goliath think about shit like that

As for question #3, I assume everyone has given this a tiny bit of thought at some point, but why the fuck worry about it?  I figure as long as I don’t commit heinous crimes, I’ll probably end up OK.....maybe :)

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On 4/13/2018 at 1:56 PM, George Morgan said:

"...God kept His end of the agreement, but we did not keep our end. We disobeyed God, committed sins, and the sacrifices we offered were not enough as they had to be done on a continual basis.  "

This sounds kinda dick-ish.

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most of you know my background. and over the past few years, i’ve been hesitant and refrained from from theological issues and discussions despite my education and training. i’m a different man over the past 7 years, 3 months and 17 days.

but this shit here is making me rethink that position.


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I’d rather like to read your take on this.


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On 4/14/2018 at 3:04 PM, George Morgan said:

 Over 300 predictions have come true, and no other book in history has been able to predict future events like the Bible has for many centuries.  Hundreds of thousands of scholars have studied the Bible and have not been able to discredit it.  It is the most amazing book ever written.

What 300 predictions? Name them. 

No one has been able to discredit it? The burden of proof isn't on discrediting the info. The burden of proof is on proving the info true. Which is impossible because it delves into many supernatural events that supposedly took place thousands of years before anyone from our modern times was born. If anything the complete absence of supernatural  events such as these in modern times hints the likelyhood they existed thousands of years ago is slim.  You can't disprove ancient Greek religion and the existence of Zeus either but that doesn't make it any more real. 

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On 4/14/2018 at 3:18 PM, TexArcher said:

It's baffling that anyone still believes this silliness.

It's not baffling that there's a huge overlap of the group who believes this bullshit and the group who believes Fox News' bullshit.

I guess the old adage "There's a sucker born every minute and two to take him" is exactly right...

Don’t forget the foodies, enviro weirdos, anti-vaxxers, and Space alien folks.

 

Religiosity ain’t limited to them Christians...

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On 4/14/2018 at 3:04 PM, George Morgan said:

Really,  the great questions that all people have about life are, "Where did I come from?', "Why am I here", and "Where am I  going after I die?"  The Bible is the only book that can answer those questions because it is the Word of God, our creator.  To know where you are going after you die is of immense importance to most people.  We can trust God's word to tell us the truth without having to rely on our opinions.  There has never been a book written like the Bible.  Over 300 predictions have come true, and no other book in history has been able to predict future events like the Bible has for many centuries.  Hundreds of thousands of scholars have studied the Bible and have not been able to discredit it.  It is the most amazing book ever written.

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Jesus didn’t even know the Earth revolved around the Sun. That would have been a nice detail he could have shared with the world. Instead, he let his faithful followers wallow in ignorance for another 1,600 years. Of course when a brilliant thinking man figured out the truth, the Church found him guilty of heresy. His truthful teachings were banned. He was declared a heretic and imprisioned for the remainder of his life.

Nice work, JC.

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George Morgan, huh?  Nice try Kevin.  All that scat made you find religion, huh?  Did all that religion also inform you that drive through wine coolers and those who peddle them are the Devil?

 

We shit on his board, he preaches on ours... 1-0 Kevin. Well played, you sick fuck

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4 hours ago, Bernard said:

Jesus didn’t even know the Earth revolved around the Sun. That would have been a nice detail he could have shared with the world. Instead, he let his faithful followers wallow in ignorance for another 1,600 years. Of course when a brilliant thinking man figured out the truth, the Church found him guilty of heresy. His truthful teachings were banned. He was declared a heretic and imprisioned for the remainder of his life.

Nice work, JC.

Bernard

How do you know that in Jesus' day the Sun DIDN'T revolve around the Earth?

Advantage: Jesus

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I guess this isn't the place to be discussing religions in general.
The Jewish folks OP or the Jains, or my friend of the Indian ethnic group that believes in Krishna. Or my other friends that are Muslim?
Is it just the white Anglo Saxon Protestants that are the Select?

I can't say I have any Buddhist friends. At least not that I know.

Since you want to square off for a fight, let's hear you condemn all these to perdition.

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LOL at anyone spinning fables out of one side of their mouth and then using science for literally everything else in their lives.

 

People who believe in hell should live their lives in accordance with Leviticus and Deuteronomy. Be fucking consistent.

 

And don’t go to a hospital when your child gets sick; be a real Christian and pray your child to wellness. Leave that hospital bed open for us hell bound sinners that believe in science.

 

 

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12 hours ago, Bernard said:

Jesus didn’t even know the Earth revolved around the Sun. That would have been a nice detail he could have shared with the world. Instead, he let his faithful followers wallow in ignorance for another 1,600 years. Of course when a brilliant thinking man figured out the truth, the Church found him guilty of heresy. His truthful teachings were banned. He was declared a heretic and imprisioned for the remainder of his life.

Nice work, JC.

Bernard

You don't know that.  Maybe no one asked Him.

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44 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

You don't know that.  Maybe no one asked Him.

I don’t think anyone asked him if he was the fucking Messiah, but he sure ran around offering up that info on his own. Jesus contributed exactly zero to the knowledge base of mankind. Perhaps disproving the geocentric model of the solar system was a bit much for his illiterate, Bronze Age audience. Maybe he could have told them about the existence of North and South America. The existence of two continents with unimaginable natural resources only a boat ride away would have been incredible news to poor folks scratching out a living in Middle East desert. Nope. No time for that. 

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On 4/15/2018 at 11:45 PM, former alkie said:

I’m a terribly shallow motherfucker, and have never really considered these to be life’s “great questions.”

Question #1 was answered after I found my first porn magazine.....probably around age 7 or so

I’ve never once even contemplated question #2.......only dorks like Davey & Goliath think about shit like that

As for question #3, I assume everyone has given this a tiny bit of thought at some point, but why the fuck worry about it?  I figure as long as I don’t commit heinous crimes, I’ll probably end up OK.....maybe :)

Too late for this, but... those "3 questions" are not life's questions, but are a religousized version of what were once held to be the 3 central questions of classical philosophy.  The more neutral versions are:

-  Where am I from (what is my origin, what is the world)?

-  What should I do (ethics)?

-  What can I hope for?

Decent questions, at least, and these preceded christianity by 500 years.

 

 

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