Joe Biden Veepstakes 2020

[SydneyCarton 48054]

Down to Rice and Harris, allegedly. 

https://www.axios.com/biden-vp-pick-kamala-harris-susan-rice-0e1f7c91-7df2-4d08-a08f-4568e86e6e50.html

Poor Hugo. At this point, I might be team Rice. 

Edited August 5, 2020 by SydneyCarton

[Hank Kingsley 20904]

I'd think Rice as VP would piss off the progressives more than Kamala.  

[Hank Kingsley 20904]

Also whoever Joe picks will get attacked mercilessly by Trump and the GOP. 

None of their smears have worked on Biden, and they are itching to shit all over his VP pick. It's gonna be ugly. 

 

[Pancho 44705]

Huge Rice piece in Politco saying Republicans actually want him to pick Rice as it will fire up his voters.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/05/republicans-susan-rice-vice-president-391480

Quote

“She is absolutely our No. 1 draft pick,” a Trump campaign official said.

Rice, a former ambassador to the United Nations and national security adviser for Obama, is accused of revealing the identities of top Trump associates in 2016 after they were picked up as part of U.S. surveillance of foreign officials.

Four years earlier, she faced allegations that she misled Americans when she announced on national TV that the fatal attacks in Benghazi, Libya, occurred after spontaneous protests in response to an anti-Muslim video. That was determined to be inaccurate.

On Monday night, Tucker Carlson, the Fox News host influential in Trump’s orbit, opened his show with a lengthy diatribe about Rice and her role in the 2012 Benghazi raid — strikingly similar to the attack Republicans lodged against Clinton in the 2016 race against Trump.

“I can’t think of anyone that is more polarizing who would fire up the base than Susan Rice,” said former Rep. Jason Chaffetz, a Republican who investigated the Obama administration as chairman of the House oversight committee. “They know her, and they don’t like her.”

 

[Fudge Nuggets 19188]

Get off the fucking pot and pick someone already. 

[Voldemort86 2259]

I think it should be Harris.

Trump already backed himself into a corner with his LAW AND ORDER bullshit. What’s he going to do criticize Harris for being tough on crime when he himself promises he will be tough on crime?
 

She’s probably the safest pick.  Rice will supposedly fire up the GOP base. Bass will hurt Biden in Florida / with Hispanics. 

Edited August 5, 2020 by Voldemort86

[SizzleChest 8283]

Why does Trump need Biden to pick Rice to fire up his base?  That makes no sense.

[tantric superman 4667]

6 minutes ago, Voldemort86 said:

I think it should be Harris.

Trump already backed himself into a corner with his LAW AND ORDER bullshit. What’s he going to do criticize Harris for being tough on crime when he himself promises he will be tough on crime?
 

She’s probably the safest pick.  Rice will supposedly fire up the GOP base. Bass will hurt Biden in Florida / with Hispanics. 

Yep.  I'm thinking Biden needs someone who is tough on crime, even if it irks the progs. 

Too bad that asshole sheriff that Trump likes appears to be a man.

 

[tantric superman 4667]

1 hour ago, Hank Kingsley said:

I'd think Rice as VP would piss off the progressives more than Kamala.  

The problem with Rice is that it's so obviously doubling down on the Clinton/Obama old guard.

I would love going back to that era over the current - but I do think it gives Trump the most shit to feed to his moronic fan base.  And it has the least likelihood of increasing any excitement among Dems.

[Hank Kingsley 20904]

26 minutes ago, tantric superman said:

The problem with Rice is that it's so obviously doubling down on the Clinton/Obama old guard.

I would love going back to that era over the current - but I do think it gives Trump the most shit to feed to his moronic fan base.  And it has the least likelihood of increasing any excitement among Dems.

Agreed. 

We don't need two old guards on the ticket. Joe is enough. 

 

[henrygandorf 29189]

my only issue with rice is that it sets up better in 2024 for the gop.

ideally, the vp is at the very least in the conversation for 24 or 28, and we don't really know if that's who rice is.

kamala would scare me more if i was a republican.

[Neonmoon 38129]

I'm predicting Rice. She's an Obama appointee that Biden is familiar with

[Doc Sam Beckett 5792]

Give me Kamala and let's roll

[orangecat92 306]

He should pick Demings, a former police chief in Orlando.  Had no idea any of these ladies were former police anything.  She would easily be the toughest on crime. 

 

I think he will want comfort, so he will pick Rice.   

[Biff Tannen 45665]

Rice would be great to shore up the state dept and rebuild foreign alliances, but if she’s a risk to get more of the cult out to vote, I choose Kamala. 

[totallynotabuttpirate 5395]

Can Susan Rice shade like this??

[Ghost of LL 15531]

Rice can be SecState (and almost certainly would be).

Personally, I would like for it to be Lujan Grisham, but that's not going to happen.  So let's just name Kamala and be done with it.

[BradInATX 9208]

7 minutes ago, totallynotabuttpirate said:

Can Susan Rice shade like this??

 

It's been awhile, I've forgotten how great she is at emoting when she's on the attack. She would be a fantastic asset on the warpath while Joe sits back and aw shuckses his way to the Whitehouse.

[orangecat92 306]

wow. Rice is out! see this  https://www.foxnews.com/politics/susan-rice-trump-supporting-son

 

 

 

"His mother said she believes, for both her family and the country, in respecting those with differing political views"  Hard left will not respect people with differing political views. 

[Huckleberry 32848]

lulz

[BradInATX 9208]

[Satchel 6925]

https://www.post-gazette.com/opinion/Op-Ed/2020/07/08/Steve-Chapman-Susan-Rice-support-Iraq-War/stories/202007080020

[Doc Sam Beckett 5792]

Felt like this for awhile now 

 

[Red Five 40837]

I’m perplexed by the “just hurry up and fucking pick one!” attitude. It was always going to be early August, a week or so prior to the convention.

[BradInATX 9208]

17 minutes ago, Red Five said:

I’m perplexed by the “just hurry up and fucking pick one!” attitude. It was always going to be early August, a week or so prior to the convention.

They can't hold back their pent up hot-takes anymore. 

[Pancho 44705]

8 year old Pancho: “Momma, I want McDonald’s!”

My mom: “With whose money?”  (Said this while giving the expression below.)

20 hours ago, totallynotabuttpirate said:

Can Susan Rice shade like this??

 

#NeverForget

[Bozo_Casanova 26436]

Rice doesn't do this

 

['stache 21795]

19 hours ago, orangecat92 said:

wow. Rice is out! see this  https://www.foxnews.com/politics/susan-rice-trump-supporting-son

 

 

 

"His mother said she believes, for both her family and the country, in respecting those with differing political views"  Hard left will not respect people with differing political views. 

Dick Cheney's daughter was gay married when like only 25% of the country supported gay marriage. He also talked like a supervillain and shot a guy in the face. You're overthinking this. Nevertheless, the more I've followed, I'm not leaning Harris. 

Edited August 6, 2020 by 'stache

[yoladu 4090]

Harris is exactly a perfect VP pick for a campaign. She is a political animal and knows how to campaign. Will she make a good executive and govern successfully? Maybe. I don't know.

i think picking Rice as VP pick would be a BIG mistake. (The problem is Biden likes her and feel more comfortable personally with her).

I hope he can get past that and realize Harris is the smarter choice.

[Prepuce of Doom 21053]

1 minute ago, yoladu said:

Harris is exactly a perfect VP pick for a campaign. She is a political animal and knows how to campaign. Will she make a good executive and govern successfully? Maybe. I don't know.

i think picking Rice as VP pick would be a BIG mistake. (The problem is Biden likes her and feel more comfortable personally with her).

I hope he can get past that and realize Harris is the smarter choice.

I realize that it's been approximately 350 years since she dropped out, but either your recollection or mine is very much off the mark with respect to the bolded portion. 

[yoladu 4090]

Just now, Prepuce of Doom said:

I realize that it's been approximately 350 years since she dropped out, but either your recollection or mine is very much off the mark with respect to the bolded portion. 

i hear ya, but compared to Susan Rice's ability to campaign? i just don't see it... but yeah, point taken, Harris never gained the traction i thought she would.

[Pig Bellmont 8712]

2 hours ago, Red Five said:

I’m perplexed by the “just hurry up and fucking pick one!” attitude. It was always going to be early August, a week or so prior to the convention.

Yuuuuuuup

[tokamak 6391]

IIRC, Harris's big problem in the primary was that she was trying to be all things to all people, which ended up turning people off. Seems like that wouldn't be a big problem as the veep nominee.

[Planet Houston 4930]

 

[Gatorubet 30185]

Veep needs to be a knife fighter, and a dirty one at that.

I prefer Rice, but hope it’s Harris

[Pancho 44705]

Speculation on twitter last night was that it’s Rice based on her selling her Netflix stock (or something like that) but there was some thought that this was in the works for a while and might just be coincidence 

[SydneyCarton 48054]

17 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Speculation on twitter last night was that it’s Rice based on her selling her Netflix stock (or something like that) but there was some thought that this was in the works for a while and might just be coincidence 

Question for the political hobbyists: Why would she or any candidate sell any stocks or make any preparations (unless they just liked the market situation) before they were elected? I wouldn’t prepare to sell shit unless it made strategic sense before December. 

[Patrick Bateman 3910]

2 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

Question for the political hobbyists: Why would she or any candidate sell any stocks or make any preparations (unless they just liked the market situation) before they were elected? I wouldn’t prepare to sell shit unless it made strategic sense before December. 

Hell, Donny proved, why would you sell anything even if elected.  Keep your fucking NFLX and then make it the official streaming service of the US and make all military stations subscribe.  Seems normal now...

 

[SydneyCarton 48054]

1 minute ago, Patrick Bateman said:

Hell, Donny proved, why would you sell anything even if elected.  Keep your fucking NFLX and then make it the official streaming service of the US and make all military stations subscribe.  Seems normal now...

 

Yeah mean, I totally get that snark. But I mean, you know, for normal people who actually might want to uphold the integrity of the country, etc, why would you sell it before you actually know you're going to have to govern the country?

[Patrick Bateman 3910]

15 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Yeah mean, I totally get that snark. But I mean, you know, for normal people who actually might want to uphold the integrity of the country, etc, why would you sell it before you actually know you're going to have to govern the country?

Perception.  Also, presidential candidates and presumably VP's get intelligence briefings and may have platforms which affect current holdings.  It's probably best for all candidates to immediately put their investments into a blind trust, but dumping NFLX as a reason to think someone's being named VP is a stretch, IMO.

 

[gmr548 16576]

wow. Rice is out! see this  https://www.foxnews.com/politics/susan-rice-trump-supporting-son
 
 
 
"His mother said she believes, for both her family and the country, in respecting those with differing political views"  Hard left will not respect people with differing political views. 

I think you meant to post this on texags?

[gmr548 16576]

Kamala is a much better pick than Rice, I don't see how that's even a contest outside of the desire to make a Tom Hernan style comfort hire.

That said, VP doesn't matter so whatever.

[tokamak 6391]

8 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

Kamala is a much better pick than Rice, I don't see how that's even a contest outside of the desire to make a Tom Hernan style comfort hire.

That said, VP doesn't matter so whatever.

Seems like it matters quite a bit more than usual in this situation if Biden ends up winning. He's like 78. Even if he stays healthy for the whole term, he's only doing 1 right? Gotta think the VP would have the inside track to the 2024 nomination in that scenario.

['stache 21795]

Just now, tokamak said:

Seems like it matters quite a bit more than usual in this situation if Biden ends up winning. He's like 78. Even if he stays healthy for the whole term, he's only doing 1 right? Gotta think the VP would have the inside track to the 2024 nomination in that scenario.

I think it depends on their thinking. If this is the thinking, I think he will be pressured greatly to pick Harris. If not, it'll be Rice, who he likely is much more familiar and comfortable with. 

Either way, the biggest part of this election will be the Obama machine when it really ramps up. He is still popular and will give Joe a boost, especially if trump keeps on with his dimentia filled nonsense and racism.

[Bullneck 19070]

[Biff Tannen 45665]

10 minutes ago, 'stache said:

especially if trump keeps on with his dimentia filled nonsense and racism.

I don't know man.  Maybe he'll turn it around after a lifetime of the same bullshit horror show over and over.  Nah, probably not.

[henrygandorf 29189]

if you believe it's rice, you can still get a nice 3x payout on predictit.

2x on kamala.

[gmr548 16576]

Seems like it matters quite a bit more than usual in this situation if Biden ends up winning. He's like 78. Even if he stays healthy for the whole term, he's only doing 1 right? Gotta think the VP would have the inside track to the 2024 nomination in that scenario.

Matters for them, sure. Voters don't care. This is about Trump.

[Brandywine 1316]

4 hours ago, 'stache said:

I think it depends on their thinking. If this is the thinking, I think he will be pressured greatly to pick Harris. If not, it'll be Rice, who he likely is much more familiar and comfortable with. 

Either way, the biggest part of this election will be the Obama machine when it really ramps up. He is still popular and will give Joe a boost, especially if trump keeps on with his dimentia filled nonsense and racism.

Pick Harris as VP and Rice as Sec of State. Best of both worlds. 

[Ghost of LL 15531]

1 hour ago, Brandywine said:

Pick Harris as VP and Rice as Sec of State. Best of both worlds. 

I think that's the obvious call.

But if you don't have Harris as VP, you damned sure as hell ought to have her as AG.