Texas @ Oklahoma Series Thread

[EZ$ 2105]

Where can I find the game today?  Couldn’t find the post with the televised schedule. 

[texasstrong12 4668]

7 minutes ago, EZ$ said:

Where can I find the game today?  Couldn’t find the post with the televised schedule. 

ESPN2

[capnamerca 571]

12 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Then what does "leave the baseline" mean?

Baseball is interesting (and different from every other sport with 'lines', I'm pretty sure) in that the foul lines only explicitly determine whether a ball is fair or foul. They do NOT determine the path on which a runner must run, or serve as any sort of a boundary for a defensive player to engage with an offensive player or runner. I didn't look up the exact wording, but the 'baseline' a runner must follow is determined by where the runner is when he's engaged by the defense (ever seen a guy round 1st base and end up almost in right field before hitting second base?), and in some situations it's defined by intent, rather than position on the field. The latter is what you saw with Ellis. The "run past 1st base rule" says (paraphrasing) that if a runner is past 1st base, and makes an effort or signals intent to go to second base, then he's in play. His location on the field has zero bearing on that intent (i.e. the foul line is meaningless). The umpire ruled that Ellis had signaled his intent to go to second, and was then as such in play, and the tag out was valid. It's exactly equivalent to a runner tagging up on a long fly ball, deciding NOT to try and advance, and being tagged out trying to return to the original base.

I think the umpire mis-judged Ellis' intent, but it was a close enough play that I wouldn't have gotten myself ejected while I argued it. Looked like Pierce had the same read. 

[troph 24805]

That’s what I was thinking when I asked what the actual rule is. I was always taught curl toward the dugout otherwise you could be in play and be tagged out. No discussion about the line. I’m not even sure it was a bullshit call. Too gray and on the road ... tie goes to the cheaters.

[jimmyjazz 45957]

No doubt the lesson taught very early on is to curl right after crossing the bag. 

I certainly won't lose any sleep over the play, but capnamerca's explanation still doesn't clarify to me what it means to LEAVE the baseline.  In my mind that implies a change in direction towards second (assuming he is correct in that it doesn't require crossing the white line).  Neither seemed to happen, although the criticism for not curling towards the dugout is obviously valid.  Take the ump out of the play.

[OU Sucks 8821]

There was zero intent to go to second.  He started a foot right of the infield dirt edge and ended up a foot right of the infield dirt edge.  Just turning your body left to locate the ball isn't intent to go to second...if he took a step towards second it would be a different story.  Glad neither that blown call or the OU sucks player who didn't move his arm an inch to get HBP made a difference in the game.

[TrashMaster G 17557]

I don't care what the rule is, it was crystal clear to anybody with more than two brain cells that there was NO intent to go to 2nd.  That ump was looking for a reason to inject himself into the game and make a call, which is full-on bullshit.

[NeverMarryAStripper 21907]

If you look at the play, the runner turned his body so he could see the field. He never moved his feet toward second base. I think the rule as written requires some kind of a move toward second. It does require an “obvious attempt” and I don’t think there was any way to interpret his move as an obvious attempt to advance. That being said, at that point in the game I don’t think it was a call worth getting tossed over. However, if it had taken place earlier while the game was still tied, or with OU still ahead, I probably would have been tossed arguing the call because it was so obviously horseshit.

[zlavydra 2121]

Today's sooner starter pitched the Sunday game last year, ie the one they won. We owe him a beat down.

[dcar00 14210]

16 minutes ago, NeverMarryAStripper said:

If you look at the play, the runner turned his body so he could see the field. He never moved his feet toward second base. I think the rule as written requires some kind of a move toward second. It does require an “obvious attempt” and I don’t think there was any way to interpret his move as an obvious attempt to advance. That being said, at that point in the game I don’t think it was a call worth getting tossed over. However, if it had taken place earlier while the game was still tied, or with OU still ahead, I probably would have been tossed arguing the call because it was so obviously horseshit.

yep.  he faced second base while finding the ball and looking at field to assess the situation.  he never moved towards second. it is exactly what you should do.

I've seen runners even one or 2 steps toward second and not get called.  it was a bullshit call all the way around. 

one note is unless the throw is from 3rd or deep in the hole and goes up the line you are rarely going to get to 2nd at this level because the catcher is backing up.

[RMac5 1551]

Did they or can you ask for help from the plate umpire? 

[Horny Bull 2759]

 

[Pato del Muerto 52499]

Sweep the leg. Do you have a problem with that, Mr. Henley?

[youdunnf'dup 2147]

Sweep these sooner fucks right off their own field. Gotta give credit where it’s due. This team has come a long way. 

[Cairn Horn88 8264]

ESPN 2 @ 1:00

[spystud13 2371]

The intent clearly wasn’t a move to 2nd, but the rule has jack-fucking-shit to do with crossing the line. It was a fucking terrible call because he didn’t make a true effort toward 2nd, that’s it & that’s all. 

[Horny Bull 2759]

Horns go 1-2-3 T1

[Austin Orange 98]

Panty hose on the head should not be part of baseball.

[Austin Orange 98]

There goes the no hitter

[Horny Bull 2759]

No score after 1

[Austin Orange 98]

That strike out was brought to you by L’eggs.

[Happy Gilmore 1001]

Midget now 0-11 

[zork 629]

http://texas.leanplayer.com/ to listen

[66BUFF 2562]

kyler 0 for 11 now?

[Lat22 4014]

Boy (no racist), you got a panty on your head. 

[Red Five 40859]

“When we come back we’re going to talk about Kyler Murray!”
No way

[Austin Orange 98]

They aren’t talking about his hits in this series. That’s for sure.

[Lat22 4014]

When are they going to mix in Trae Young?

[Radical Larry 28621]

Holy shit, it's the Kyler Murray show with some breaks to talk about baseball. 

 

 

[Horny Bull 2759]

When are they going to mix in Trae Young?

I’m surprised they don’t have a full time Kyler Murray tracker attached to the scoreboard

[Red Five 40859]

Oh hey look, it’s Barry Switzer and Brian Bosworth. Let’s bring them up and talk to them about Murray for the next two hours.

[Goodman 3273]

Awful job by Todd. A below average runner hits the bag after he catches the ball and beats him to the plate on a true hop/turf field.

[DeadArmadillo 907]

Kyle is a good kid, but he's a marginal pro baseball prospect. The idea the that he'll even have a chance to turn down "seven figures" is moronic. He's a sub .300 hitter in college with OK power at best and he can't catch a cold.

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[Radical Larry 28621]

I never thought I'd say this, but I'm glad for a commercial break. 

[Lat22 4014]

1 minute ago, Goodman said:

Awful job by Todd. A below average runner hits the bag after he catches the ball and beats him to the plate on a true hop/turf field.

It really was. An average throw would have had the runner. 

[Horny Bull 2759]

OU leads 1-0 after 2

[Austin Orange 98]

2 minutes ago, DeadArmadillo said:

Kyle is a good kid, but he's a marginal pro baseball prospect. The idea the that he'll even have a chance to turn down "seven figures" is moronic. He's a sub .300 hitter in college with OK power at best and he can't catch a cold.

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You haven’t heard? He only has 200 AB so far in college. 

[Radical Larry 28621]

Yeah, Dvoracek is one of the "good ones". JFC

[Austin Orange 98]

Short leash

[Goodman 3273]

Fatball right down main street, thankfully sooner hitter is a puss and cant go yard.

[HuntinHorn 975]

Kid is throwing meat up in the zone.

Edited April 15, 2018 by HuntinHorn

[Horny Bull 2759]

3-0 OU

[NeverMarryAStripper 21907]

So another 3 run comeback?

[dcar00 14210]

horrible call again.

[NeverMarryAStripper 21907]

That guy was out as shit. Another home cooking call.

[RedDirtTexan 209]

he was out

 

[Horny Bull 2759]

OU leads 3-0 after 3

[NeverMarryAStripper 21907]

I hope they ask Pierce about the shitty ass umpires

 

[WBT 20572]

Base stealer was out, luckily Henley K'd the next guy anyway.

[dcar00 14210]

24 minutes ago, Radical Larry said:

Holy shit, it's the Kyler Murray show with some breaks to talk about baseball  Baker Mayfield.