Cops break into EMT’s apartment and kill her while searching for a suspect they already had in custody

[NotActuallyALonghorn 4965]

True, but the feds like to have a very thorough air tight case before they make a move.

[gsoda3 3222]

what's the max allowable sentence?

[Longhornfan1024 1707]

1 hour ago, Braff Zacklin said:

Two-and-a-half years is kind of ridiculous, but better late than never, I guess.

More like a year and a half.  Do you really think this was being investigated by Trump's DOJ?  

[Satchel 6908]

It’s a about damn time!
https://abcnews.go.com/US/doj-announces-charges-connection-raid-killed-breonna-taylor/story?id=87926113

U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland announced Thursday that the Department of Justice has filed charges against four former and current Louisville police officers in connection with the death of Breonna Taylor. The charges include civil rights offenses, unlawful conspiracies, unconstitutional use of force and obstruction offenses.

"The federal charges announced today allege that members of a Police Investigations Unit falsified the affidavit used to obtain the search warrant of Ms. Taylor's home and that this act violated federal civil rights laws, and that those violations resulted in Ms. Taylor's death," Garland said in a news conference.

The federal charges against detective Joshua Jaynes, former Louisville detective Kelly Goodlett and sergeant Kyle Meany allege they violated Taylor's Fourth Amendment rights when they sought a warrant to search Taylor's home while knowing they lacked probable cause, and that they knew their affidavit supporting the warrant contained false and misleading information and omitted other material information, resulting in her death

[Captainant 27251]

Oglibatory reminder that these cops are racist sacks of shit that consider shooting black people in their homes in the dead of night a matter of "good versus evil"

 

 

[StassneyHorn 6522]

Is he not supposed to shitpost at 2AM? Who are we to police that?

 

[TwiceHorn 31122]

21 hours ago, gsoda3 said:

what's the max allowable sentence?

Looks like the full range when it results in death. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/242

And https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/241

Edited August 5, 2022 by TwiceHorn

[High Plains Drifter 10961]

21 hours ago, Captainant said:

Oglibatory reminder that these cops are racist sacks of shit that consider shooting black people in their homes in the dead of night a matter of "good versus evil"

 

 

 

 

he's right in that it is good vs evil, he's just mistaken on who is evil.

 

 

 

[gmr548 16438]

Oglibatory reminder that these cops are racist sacks of shit that consider shooting black people in their homes in the dead of night a matter of "good versus evil"
 
 

The victim complex is absolutely incredible.

[Captainant 27251]

Pigs are finally going to squeal and come clean

Reuters: Former Louisville officer to plead guilty to Breonna Taylor cover-up

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Aug 23 (Reuters) - A former Louisville detective is expected to plead guilty on Tuesday to helping to falsify a search warrant that led to the killing of Breonna Taylor, a Black woman whose death fueled a wave of protests over police violence against people of color.

The former officer, Kelly Goodlett, is scheduled to appear at 1 p.m. (1700 GMT) before U.S. District Court Judge Rebecca Grady Jennings in a federal court in Louisville, Kentucky. She is expected to be arraigned and to enter her plea.

 

Goodlett was one of four former Louisville Metropolitan Police Department detectives charged by the U.S. Justice Department on Aug. 4 for their involvement in the 2020 raid that killed Taylor in her home.

The charges represented the Justice Department's latest attempt to crack down on abuses and racial disparities in policing, following a series of high-profile police killings of Black Americans across the country.

 

The killing of Taylor, along with other 2020 killings of George Floyd in Minneapolis and Ahmaud Arbery in Georgia, among others, sparked outrage and galvanized protests that peaked in intensity during that summer.

Taylor, a 26-year-old emergency medical technician, was asleep with her boyfriend on March 13, 2020 when police conducted a no-knock raid and burst into her apartment. Taylor's boyfriend fired once at what he said he believed were intruders. Three police officers responded with 32 shots, six of which struck Taylor, killing her.

 

Goodlett and a fellow former officer, Joshua Jaynes, met days after the shooting in a garage where they agreed on a false story to cover for the false evidence they had submitted to justify the botched raid, prosecutors say.

Goodlett was charged with conspiring with another detective to falsify the warrant that led to the raid and then cover up the falsification.

Federal prosecutors also charged Jaynes and current Sergeant Kyle Meany with civil rights violations and obstruction of justice for using false information to obtain the search warrant. A fourth officer, former Detective Brett Hankison, was charged with civil rights violations for allegedly using excessive force.

 

In March, a jury acquitted Hankison on a charge of wanton endangerment. A grand jury earlier cleared the other two white officers who shot Taylor but charged Hankison for endangering neighbors in the adjacent apartment.

A grand juror on the case later said Kentucky Attorney General Daniel Cameron only presented the wanton endangerment charges against Hankison to the grand jury. read more

Glad the cops are being made to face justice. They've still got a lot of answering to do for their antics during the 2020 summer of love. 

I hope the folks who were making excuses for the cops read this and know they were blindly accepting complete fabrications. Pages 7/8/9 of this thread are pretty cringe in hindsight, doing the cops work for them of spreading and repeating their racist lies. 

[DigglerontheHoof 20975]

They should be up for the death penalty.  Nothing but fucking murderers. 

[bolverk 29279]

A little more detail:

The former detective, Kelly Goodlett, pleaded guilty in federal court to one count of conspiracy, admitting that she had worked with another officer to falsify a search warrant application and had later lied to cover up their act. In pleading guilty, Ms. Goodlett became the first police officer to be convicted over the March 2020 raid, during which the police were searching for evidence of drug dealing by Ms. Taylor’s former boyfriend Jamarcus Glover.

Ms. Goodlett’s plea suggested that she may be cooperating with the Justice Department prosecutors who have charged her and two other former Louisville police officers over their roles in acquiring the search warrant for the raid. A fourth officer is accused of violating Ms. Taylor’s civil rights, as well as her neighbors’, by firing 10 bullets through the two apartments. None of those bullets struck anyone.

******

Brett Hankison, the former detective who is facing federal charges of violating the rights of Ms. Taylor and her neighbors by firing shots through their apartments, also faced state charges over the shooting, but a jury acquitted him earlier this year. Before the Justice Department stepped in this month, he was the only officer to face criminal charges over the raid.

*****

In the application for the search warrant for Ms. Taylor’s home, Joshua Jaynes, a former detective who is among those facing charges, claimed that he had “verified through a U.S. postal inspector” that Mr. Glover was having packages sent to her apartment. Mr. Jaynes later admitted that he had not spoken with any postal inspector.

In court documents, prosecutors have said that Ms. Goodlett knew that Mr. Jaynes’s claim in the warrant application was false, and that she had added another misleading statement when she asserted that Mr. Glover had been using her address as his own.

[George 487]

1st to squeal, get the best deal!

[Captainant 27251]

Hooray, the judge that signed Breonna's (fraudulent and falsified) death warrant lost her judge's seat! Even the smallest, most meager morsel of accountability is a much-needed relief.

[Captainant 27251]

Bump. One of Breona's murderers, former officer john mattingly, is now doing viewing parties of his murder tape for select audiences of white women in restaurants. He also did the solid of piping the audio from the video through the entire restaurant using it's sound system.  

Dude is really excited to show off his kill, I guess. Even Jordan Peele couldn't have predicted that he'd draw an audience that bought tickets to see it though. 

Edited January 21, 2023 by Captainant

[bernorange 8345]

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Myles Cosgrove, the former Louisville detective who killed Breonna Taylor in a fruitless 2020 drug raid based on a fraudulent search warrant affidavit, was fired after that notorious incident for his reckless use of deadly force. The senseless death of a young African-American woman, along with the murder of George Floyd in Minneapolis two months later, provoked nationwide protests in 2020 and became a leading example of the police abuse decried by Black Lives Matter. But that history did not faze the Carroll County, Kentucky, Sheriff's Office, which recently hired Cosgrove as a deputy.
...

https://reason.com/2023/04/27/the-louisville-cop-who-killed-breonna-taylor-has-a-new-law-enforcement-gig/

[closetohumping 17367]

On 1/21/2023 at 8:42 AM, Captainant said:

Bump. One of Breona's murderers, former officer john mattingly, is now doing viewing parties of his murder tape for select audiences of white women in restaurants. He also did the solid of piping the audio from the video through the entire restaurant using it's sound system.  

Dude is really excited to show off his kill, I guess. Even Jordan Peele couldn't have predicted that he'd draw an audience that bought tickets to see it though. 

Wow. 

[Captainant 27251]

Unsurprising development: 79 year old judge says cops din do nuffin wrong, and it was actually the black man's fault the cops killed an innocent woman. Nevermind his 2A right to defend himself amirite

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/breonna-taylor-kenneth-walker-judge-dismisses-officer-charges/

U.S. District Judge Charles Simpson's ruling declared that the actions of Taylor's boyfriend, who fired a shot at police the night of the raid, were the legal cause of her death, not a bad warrant.

Federal charges against former Louisville Police Detective Joshua Jaynes and former Sgt. Kyle Meany were announced by U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland in 2022 during a high-profile visit to Louisville. Garland accused Jaynes and Meany, who were not present at the raid, of knowing they had falsified part of the warrant and put Taylor in a dangerous situation by sending armed officers to her apartment.

But Simpson wrote in the Tuesday ruling that "there is no direct link between the warrantless entry and Taylor's death." Simpson's ruling effectively reduced the civil rights violation charges against Jaynes and Meany, which had carried a maximum sentence of life in prison, to misdemeanors.

[Brisketexan 104263]

Unsurprising development: 79 year old judge says cops din do nuffin wrong, and it was actually the black man's fault the cops killed an innocent woman. Nevermind his 2A right to defend himself amirite
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/breonna-taylor-kenneth-walker-judge-dismisses-officer-charges/

U.S. District Judge Charles Simpson's ruling declared that the actions of Taylor's boyfriend, who fired a shot at police the night of the raid, were the legal cause of her death, not a bad warrant.

Federal charges against former Louisville Police Detective Joshua Jaynes and former Sgt. Kyle Meany were announced by U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland in 2022 during a high-profile visit to Louisville. Garland accused Jaynes and Meany, who were not present at the raid, of knowing they had falsified part of the warrant and put Taylor in a dangerous situation by sending armed officers to her apartment.

But Simpson wrote in the Tuesday ruling that "there is no direct link between the warrantless entry and Taylor's death." Simpson's ruling effectively reduced the civil rights violation charges against Jaynes and Meany, which had carried a maximum sentence of life in prison, to misdemeanors.

And every single one of your “MAGA SECOND AMENDMENT!” people will be perfectly fine with this. Because their beliefs about the right of people to protect themselves against a rogue government do NOT extend to…you know…those people. They just extend to REAL Americans.

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13532]

Bad warrant? Reminds me of that scene from Shanghai Noon-

"What are you doing here? I thought you were going to Carson City?"

"YOU GAVE ME BAD DIRECTIONS!"

"No, I gave you wrong directions."

[Sawbonz 27326]

How the fuck does a senior status judge get a case like this?

[TwiceHorn 31122]

5 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

How the fuck does a senior status judge get a case like this?

Typically, senior status judges are in the "rotation," but not "one-for-one."  So they may get a random assignment every X time where X is something less than the 1/(total number of judges).  They also generally have the ability to decline any assignment.

Usually, senior-status judges are pretty decent.

Seems like this would have a good chance of being reversed, if it's a proximate cause analysis.  Things only break the chain of proximate cause if they're not foreseeable.  And, execute a bad warrant on innocent people, getting shot at is reasonably foreseeable.

[StassneyHorn 6522]

So they killed her and her memory again. This has to be third time now they’ve excused themselves.

[NotActuallyALonghorn 4965]

14 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

And every single one of your “MAGA SECOND AMENDMENT!” people will be perfectly fine with this. Because their beliefs about the right of people to protect themselves against a rogue government do NOT extend to…you know…those people. They just extend to REAL Americans.

I don't poke around in a lot of MAGA safe spaces on the interwebs, but most of what I've seen has been very much the opposite of your old man yelling at clouds take. This decision has potentially disastrous implications for those who care about a person's right to defend their self in their own home. What I've seen has been pretty much what has been said here with a more libertarian bent. 

[DaggerHorns 3046]

13 hours ago, Sawbonz said:

How the fuck does a senior status judge get a case like this?

Are you telling me there should be an age limit in politics?

[Brisketexan 104263]

I don't poke around in a lot of MAGA safe spaces on the interwebs, but most of what I've seen has been very much the opposite of your old man yelling at clouds take. This decision has potentially disastrous implications for those who care about a person's right to defend their self in their own home. What I've seen has been pretty much what has been said here with a more libertarian bent. 

I don’t fucking believe you. MAGA leadership has EXPLICITLY said they want total immunity for all cops. This is what they want, this is the outcome they want. It’s LITERALLY part of their stated platform.

[NotActuallyALonghorn 4965]

Go look at r/guns or r/firearms and find the threads about this. They are very much anti-cop. Younger crowd, yes, but it's pretty much what I said. 

[Nivek 16775]

2 hours ago, NotActuallyALonghorn said:

Go look at r/guns or r/firearms and find the threads about this. They are very much anti-cop. Younger crowd, yes, but it's pretty much what I said. 

You may be correct.  But I have seen enough anecdotal evidence of incongruent beliefs within this crowd.  Hugs the flag, then votes for a wannabe dictator.  Talks about freedom, then strips rights away from the population.  Talks about following Jesus and embraces Trump.  I can go on.

[NotActuallyALonghorn 4965]

Talks about equality, and then pushes for laws that put black people in jail for longer and then further marginalized them from the rest of society?

[fattyflattie 4636]

45 minutes ago, NotActuallyALonghorn said:

Talks about equality, and then pushes for laws that put black people in jail for longer and then further marginalized them from the rest of society?

No point bud.  Brisket has racial and political division to sow, how dare you provide a dissenting observation. 

[Captainant 27251]

1 hour ago, NotActuallyALonghorn said:

Talks about equality, and then pushes for laws that put black people in jail for longer and then further marginalized them from the rest of society?

Is this that thing where you make something up and then fatty piles on to gloss over that you're putting words in briskets mouth? What law are you talking about? You're just throwing attacks at brisket to shut down the conversation. 

[fattyflattie 4636]

29 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Is this that thing where you make something up and then fatty piles on to gloss over that you're putting words in briskets mouth? What law are you talking about? You're just throwing attacks at brisket to shut down the conversation. 

No, not really. He just said that in real life, he’s seeing something different than Briskets post of feels.  Sometimes following along can be difficult, but this example was pretty simple. If you’d like, I can try to hunt down a tiktok that can explain it for you?

Edited August 25 by fattyflattie

[Captainant 27251]

7 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

No, not really. He just said that in real life, he’s seeing something different than Briskets post of feels.  Sometimes following along can be difficult, but this example was pretty simple. If you’d like, I can try to hunt down a tiktok that can explain it for you?

You're still lying through your teeth and covering for your buddy's lie about brisket. What law was brisket advocating for? Can you quantify what specifically you are attacking him over?

Or is it like your insistence on my use of tiktok? Purely fictional but you've tricked yourself into believing your own lies through repetition?

[ultimaton 2966]

21 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

No, not really. He just said that in real life, he’s seeing something different than Briskets post of feels.  Sometimes following along can be difficult, but this example was pretty simple. If you’d like, I can try to hunt down a tiktok that can explain it for you?

reddit is real life?

[fattyflattie 4636]

17 minutes ago, Captainant said:

You're still lying through your teeth and covering for your buddy's lie about brisket. What law was brisket advocating for? Can you quantify what specifically you are attacking him over?

 

Post 919 and 924. No laws mentioned. Just Brisket sowing more racism and political nonsense and NAAL saying it’s actually not what’s being posted online in 2A forums.   Pretty simple back and forth there.  

8 minutes ago, ultimaton said:

reddit is real life?

Compared to Briskets mind?  lolsolutely.  

[Captainant 27251]

1 minute ago, fattyflattie said:

Post 919 and 924. No laws mentioned. Just Brisket sowing more racism and political nonsense and NAAL saying it’s actually not what’s being posted online in 2A forums.   Pretty simple back and forth there.  

I browsed /r/guns and /r/firearms and the conversation was decidedly mixed. There were absolutely posts on #bothsides of the issue, everything ranging from thin blue line turds to sovereign citizens libertarian type responses. 

But that is specifically not the attack that you and NAL leveled against brisket of

2 hours ago, NotActuallyALonghorn said:

Talks about equality, and then pushes for laws that put black people in jail for longer and then further marginalized them from the rest of society?

But I see you've moved your goalposts fatty, so whatever lol. You're not gonna stop making shit up and attacking people for it

[fattyflattie 4636]

7 minutes ago, Captainant said:

But I see you've moved your goalposts fatty, so whatever lol. You're not gonna stop making shit up and attacking people for it

Without a hint of irony.  Amazing. 

[fattyflattie 4636]

8 minutes ago, Captainant said:

I browsed /r/guns and /r/firearms and the conversation was decidedly mixed. There were absolutely posts on #bothsides of the issue, everything ranging from thin blue line turds to sovereign citizens libertarian type responses. 

But this doesn’t track with the following:

I don’t fucking believe you. MAGA leadership has EXPLICITLY said they want total immunity for all cops. This is what they want, this is the outcome they want. It’s LITERALLY part of their stated platform.
 

Ackshuly sounds a lot like what NAAL replied.  Huh. 

[Captainant 27251]

29 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

But this doesn’t track with the following:

I don’t fucking believe you. MAGA leadership has EXPLICITLY said they want total immunity for all cops. This is what they want, this is the outcome they want. It’s LITERALLY part of their stated platform.
 

Ackshuly sounds a lot like what NAAL replied.  Huh. 

Smh dude my issue is with you and NAL's continued insistence on posters saying or doing things they haven't done. Specifically, NAL accused brisket of advocating for laws that worsen racial inequality. Or your constant accusations of me using social media as an authoritative source. 

And yet, you and yours just repeat repeat repeat a lie until you believe it yourself. And then get all pissy and avoidant when called out on it (as displayed here)

 

 

Either way, really great job derailing the discussion y'all. Great job moving the conversation off of the inequal application of state violence towards black citizens. You've always been all stars with that. 

[NotActuallyALonghorn 4965]

I wasn't replying to Brisket in that post.  But, anyhow,  since the context was 2a, that should give you a starting point to figure out what laws have been passed and why they were passed. 

 

 

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13532]

Law Enforcement falsifies a warrant directly leading to a guy sleeping in his own goddamn house's death

Fatty, Detector of Injustice: Well, this guy on the internet said something in post 9 blah blah blah, and that's just wrong. 

[TwiceHorn 31122]

Finally found the opinion, here.. https://www.kywd.uscourts.gov/sites/kywd/files/USA v. Jaynes Memorandum Opinion and Order.pdf

It's a pretty nuanced thing.  Nonetheless, it does appear that it is something of a new question, so there do seem to be grounds for a solid appeal.

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13532]

 

 

[Brisketexan 104263]

On 8/24/2024 at 8:09 AM, Brisketexan said:

And every single one of your “MAGA SECOND AMENDMENT!” people will be perfectly fine with this. Because their beliefs about the right of people to protect themselves against a rogue government do NOT extend to…you know…those people. They just extend to REAL Americans.

 

On 8/25/2024 at 1:11 AM, Brisketexan said:

I don’t fucking believe you. MAGA leadership has EXPLICITLY said they want total immunity for all cops. This is what they want, this is the outcome they want. It’s LITERALLY part of their stated platform.

If you want to know how MAGA feels about this case, then listen to the actual words of actual MAGA leadership, to which I referred above -- these were Trump's words when the cops first escaped consequences:

Quote

President Trump on Wednesday praised Kentucky’s Attorney General Daniel Cameron for his handling of the Breonna Taylor case just hours after it was announced that no officers would face charges related to Taylor’s death. 

And more:

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The former president on Thursday endorsed Kentucky Attorney General Daniel Cameron for governor in a statement posted to his Truth Social platform. Cameron faced blistering criticism for not filing charges against three Louisville police officers who fatally shot Breonna Taylor while executing a no-knock warrant. Trump's endorsement comes in what's expected to be a fiercely competitive race against Democratic incumbent Andy Beshear.

"I have known Daniel right from the beginning of his meteoric rise, and he is absolutely outstanding in every way," Trump said in his statement. "He is Strong on the Military and our Vets, a Fierce Defender of our Borders, Protects our totally under-siege Second Amendment, and is a Crime Fighter who represents the absolute opposite of 'Defund the Police.'"

And the current, plainly stated position of MAGA leadership on whether cops should face consequences for shit like this:

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“We’re going to give our police their power back,” Trump told supporters during a rally last week in Waukesha, Wisconsin. “We are going to give them immunity from prosecution.” The twice-impeached and four-times-indicted former president made a similar statement in December 2023 during a campaign event in Iowa, where he promised to “indemnify” police officers to shield them from prosecutorial harm.

When a movement's leadership tells you EXACTLY what they stand for, you should believe them. 

If you support MAGA, you support this outcome.  Because that's what MAGA leadership supports.  That's what I fucking said, and I stand by it, because I am simply fucking QUOTING MAGA fucking leadership's exact fucking words.

Edited August 26 by Brisketexan