Cops break into EMT’s apartment and kill her while searching for a suspect they already had in custody

[Baconboy 143]

1 hour ago, Orange&White said:

How is it possible that in the year 2020 the Louisville PD does not have ANY body cams?

Even if they can't afford them for every patrol Officer, they can certainly get some for the SWAT team.

I suspect they have them but every single one of them on this event suddenly quit working at the exact same time.

Because wearing body cameras might tip people off that they were cops. They were in plain clothes because they didn't want anyone, especially the people inside, to know they were cops. At least not until they got shot at, at which point the unknowing people inside "violently attacked our officers".

[Cajun 11,776]

Just want to point out that flamethrowers render the body camera question moot.

Body armor probably ain’t gonna do a bunch for them either.

[Grandioso 2,592]

Wow! The NRA is staging a MASSIVE protest in Louisville over Kenneth Walker! Apparently they want to make a big deal out of how racism affects black gun owners.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just kidding. 

[Braff Zacklin 13,676]

1 hour ago, Baconboy said:

Because wearing body cameras might tip people off that they were cops. They were in plain clothes because they didn't want anyone, especially the people inside, to know they were cops.

And yet they claim that they knocked and identified themselves before entering. Haha.

So let's recap:

• No-knock warrant obtained through spurious/specious means
• No-knock warrant served despite suspect already being in custody and having no apparent connection to the address
• Body cams not in use
• Cops claim to have announced their presence before entering despite being in plainclothes and having a no-knock warrant
• Only surviving occupant at this residence contradicts their claim
• Survivor, a licensed gun owner, counters that he was startled by the sound of a break-in and fired in response
• One of the three cops injured
• Cops retreat from residence and proceed to empty their clips, hitting the decedent--an EMT--at least eight times
• Surviving occupant is arrested and charged with first-degree assault AND attempted murder of a peace officer
• Judge later frees survivor (Unclear whether charges have been dropped.)
• Decedent's family members filed suit a month after the incident
• Story finally gains traction some two months after the fact
• FBI opens investigation

JFC. If there's even one person in this country who can read the police's version of events here without sighing in disgust, it's too many.

The whole system needs to be blown up: policy, procedure, personnel, everything. And at all levels. Our criminal justice system needs a purge.

 

 

[Grandioso 2,592]

You forgot that a neighbor also stated that s/he didn't hear the cops announce themselves - just the crash of the door being broken in. 

[Cajun 11,776]

1 hour ago, Braff Zacklin said:

And yet they claim that they knocked and identified themselves before entering. Haha.

So let's recap:

• No-knock warrant obtained through spurious/specious means
• No-knock warrant served despite suspect already being in custody and having no apparent connection to the address
• Body cams not in use
• Cops claim to have announced their presence before entering despite being in plainclothes and having a no-knock warrant
• Only surviving occupant at this residence contradicts their claim
• Survivor, a licensed gun owner, counters that he was startled by the sound of a break-in and fired in response
• One of the three cops injured
• Cops retreat from residence and proceed to empty their clips, hitting the decedent--an EMT--at least eight times
• Surviving occupant is arrested and charged with first-degree assault AND attempted murder of a peace officer
• Judge later frees survivor (Unclear whether charges have been dropped.)
• Decedent's family members filed suit a month after the incident
• Story finally gains traction some two months after the fact
• FBI opens investigation

JFC. If there's even one person in this country who can read the police's version of events here without sighing in disgust, it's too many.

The whole system needs to be blown up: policy, procedure, personnel, everything. And at all levels. Our criminal justice system needs a purge.

 

 

Yep, they started squaking before they all got their stories straight.  In a fair justice system they've already hung themselves.

We are from from a fair justice system, unfortunately.  They will be given a "Hero's" Mulligan at every turn.

[Brothahorn 10,097]

[Buzzrock 15,136]

Among other genuinely outrageous things about this story: some number of officers emptied their mags into an apartment and didn’t hit the guy who shot at them ONCE.

[JBJ 3,826]

4 minutes ago, Buzzrock said:

Among other genuinely outrageous things about this story: some number of officers emptied their mags into an apartment and didn’t hit the guy who shot at them ONCE.

Glad I'm not the only one who thought that was odd.

[Deej 77,815]

 

[NeverMarryAStripper 22,296]

Glad I'm not the only one who thought that was odd.

The really odd thing was that they hit anyone

[Kermit 3,162]

1 hour ago, Buzzrock said:

Among other genuinely outrageous things about this story: some number of officers emptied their mags into an apartment and didn’t hit the guy who shot at them ONCE.

So, they’re Stormtroopers?

[Cajun 11,776]

10 hours ago, Buzzrock said:

Among other genuinely outrageous things about this story: some number of officers emptied their mags into an apartment and didn’t hit the guy who shot at them ONCE.

Nothing new there...

 

[Onboard 2.0 9,083]

Love me some Tater salad.

[Guest Lobo]

8 hours ago, Kermit said:

So, they’re Stormtroopers?

Well most of them would have joined the Sturmabteilung in the 1930's if given a chance.  

[Cajun 11,776]

Certainly, because Helden!

[Buzzrock 15,136]

I feel like this one is being overshadowed and it’s every bit as outrageous as Mr Floyd’s murder.

Last I saw NO ONE has been charged or even fired. They straight up murdered Breonna for no reason at all. And then arrested her boyfriend for trying to defend her.

Any promising news?

[Gene Parmesan 4,064]

I actually find this one way more outrageous than Floyd simply based off the fact of how many people had to completely fuck up or flat out lie to get cops outside her apartment serving a no knock warrant.  Hopefully no one believes the one bad apple rhetoric at this point, but this case blows that out of the water.  This case shows the rotten process from top to bottom.  

[TornACL 7,792]

3 hours ago, Gene Parmesan said:

I actually find this one way more outrageous than Floyd simply based off the fact of how many people had to completely fuck up or flat out lie to get cops outside her apartment serving a no knock warrant.  Hopefully no one believes the one bad apple rhetoric at this point, but this case blows that out of the water.  This case shows the rotten process from top to bottom.  

Just a few bad apple trees.

[Braff Zacklin 13,676]

1 hour ago, TornACL said:

Just a few bad apple trees.

Orchards, man.

[Cajun 11,776]

6 hours ago, Buzzrock said:

I feel like this one is being overshadowed and it’s every bit as outrageous as Mr Floyd’s murder.

Last I saw NO ONE has been charged or even fired. They straight up murdered Breonna for no reason at all. And then arrested her boyfriend for trying to defend her.

Any promising news?

Edited June 2, 2020 by Cajun

[Cajun 11,776]

They're gonna cut your dick off Buzzrock!

[Grandioso 2,592]

11 hours ago, Buzzrock said:

Any promising news?

None of the cops had their body cams on. 

 

[Guest Lobo]

7 hours ago, Grandioso said:

None of the cops had their body cams on. 

 

Seriously?  Or are you just assuming the obvious?  

This would be a really good year for big city police departments to maybe dial back the armored vehicle purchases and drunken shopping sprees in the SPECOPS Catalog.  And maybe use 1% of those savings to invest in a body camera system that actually fucking works for once.  And how is there not, in 2020, a sensor system where if the officer takes his weapon out of his holster, or any other non-lethal weapon or the handcuffs, that it automatically turns his body camera on and it cannot be shut off...period.  After these protests and riots are over, they're gonna have a real hard time convincing mayors, police oversight commissions, and juries of the old line of bullshit, "Uh yeah, just before we entered the premises...my body camera underwent a software update."  

So many of their old tactics are no longer going to fly.  Y'all had a good run though, hope all the murder and evidence planting was worth it. 

[dingleberryswitzer 2,724]

1 hour ago, Lobo said:

And how is there not, in 2020, a sensor system where if the officer takes his weapon out of his holster, or any other non-lethal weapon or the handcuffs, that it automatically turns his body camera on and it cannot be shut off...period.

It's 2020.  Memory is cheap.   An SD card big enough to film and ENTIRE 8 hour shift can be had for $50.

[Grandioso 2,592]

2 hours ago, Lobo said:

Seriously?  Or are you just assuming the obvious?  

This would be a really good year for big city police departments to maybe dial back the armored vehicle purchases and drunken shopping sprees in the SPECOPS Catalog.  And maybe use 1% of those savings to invest in a body camera system that actually fucking works for once.  And how is there not, in 2020, a sensor system where if the officer takes his weapon out of his holster, or any other non-lethal weapon or the handcuffs, that it automatically turns his body camera on and it cannot be shut off...period.  After these protests and riots are over, they're gonna have a real hard time convincing mayors, police oversight commissions, and juries of the old line of bullshit, "Uh yeah, just before we entered the premises...my body camera underwent a software update."  

So many of their old tactics are no longer going to fly.  Y'all had a good run though, hope all the murder and evidence planting was worth it. 

I am actually wrong. It was a different shooting in Louisville where the body cameras weren't activated. 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/louisville-police-chief-fired-after-officer-bodycams-found-be-during-n1221351

Edited June 3, 2020 by Grandioso

[Guest Lobo]

22 minutes ago, Grandioso said:

I am actually wrong. It was a different shooting in Louisville where the body cameras weren't activated. 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/louisville-police-chief-fired-after-officer-bodycams-found-be-during-n1221351

Electronics Vendor, "Oh, you're with East Louisville police?  We're gonna give you the working cameras then..."  

Thanks for posting link, just amazing and disgusting all at the same time. 

[Orange&White 5,573]

2 hours ago, Lobo said:

This would be a really good year for big city police departments to maybe dial back the armored vehicle purchases and drunken shopping sprees in the SPECOPS Catalog.  And maybe use 1% of those savings to invest in a body camera system that actually fucking works for once.  And how is there not, in 2020, a sensor system where if the officer takes his weapon out of his holster, or any other non-lethal weapon or the handcuffs, that it automatically turns his body camera on and it cannot be shut off...period.  

There is such a feature available but there are issues with it (beyond just hiding potential evidence) that make it clunky and not worth using at this time.

There is even technology available that would turn on the cameras based on increased heart rate read from a "FitBit" type device, but the Unions would flip the fuck out if any department tried to implement that.

1 hour ago, dingleberryswitzer said:

It's 2020.  Memory is cheap.   An SD card big enough to film and ENTIRE 8 hour shift can be had for $50.

Storage is far less of an issue on these devices than batteries. Getting through a 12 hour shift on a single charge where the camera is recording nonstop is not quite available yet. You can make the batteries bigger, but then the device becomes bulkier and much more difficult to keep attached to the Officer. The proliferation of 5G cellular networks will greatly enhance current functionality of these cameras and add a whole lot more because video offload will be occurring in real time rather than just when the camera is in a vehicle dock or dock inside the station.

Where storage becomes an issue is on the back end. If you have 100 Officer running around recording full 1080 HD video on 12 hour shifts, that shit has to be stored somewhere. That adds up to petabytes real fucking quick and that is not cheap like the aforementioned SD card. Then you get into retention requirements. The VAST majority of body cam video is completely worthless time of the camera pointing at their steering wheel or their lunch, etc. Somehow that has to get filtered out and some lawyer and records retention specialist has to get involved in that discussion.

It's fascinating technology and will continue to improve.

I am of the opinion that there should be a federal mandate that any Peace Officer is required to wear one.

[Underdog 29,184]

16 hours ago, Cajun said:

They're gonna cut your dick stinger off Buzzrock!

No more buzzing off for Buzzrock.  

[TwiceHorn 32,078]

On 5/20/2020 at 7:26 PM, Cajun said:

And I'm as big of a gun/2nd Amendment guy as you'll find on here (not named ArmyBrat), but fuck the NRA.  They don't represent jack shit in my world.

Fuck 'em straight to hell.

Wayne LaPierre (or however you spell it) is a piece of shit cockgobbler.

It's sad, man.  I treasure my little Marksman medals earned at camp.

[Cajun 11,776]

30 minutes ago, Orange&White said:

 

There is even technology available that would turn on the cameras based on increased heart rate read from a "FitBit" type device, but the Unions would flip the fuck out if any department tried to implement that.

 

Funny, LEOs and their sycophants love to trot out the weathered old trop of, "If you're not doing anything wrong...".

When heat lamp is on them however, it's quite another story, ain't it?

Another example of HERO status I guess.

Edited June 3, 2020 by Cajun
And spare me the, "But that's a Union thing" BS excuse. It's an LEO thing. I know plenty of them, some in my family, and they revel in their special privileges

[Cajun 11,776]

11 hours ago, Grandioso said:

None of the cops had their body cams on. 

 

Imagine that.

What are the odds?

[Cajun 11,776]

Here's a cop wishlist from a LEO FB page.  I really love #14, as you can just feel the disdain for citizens rights dripping from the corners of the fuckstick's mouth.  I wouldn't count on these wonderful models of restraint and de-escelation to be dialing back their lust for military toy shopping on the taxpayers' dime...

Quote

When we asked our Facebook fans which single piece of tactical gear they would add to their police-issued equipment, regardless of cost, we got some great responses, both serious and far-fetched, to say the least.  It was remarkable how many people wanted Chuck Norris on call — and how many departments still aren't issuing body armor or TASERs. While it was difficult to pick through them, we selected 20 of the best (and most humorous) answers. Tell us your favorite, and add your own equipment suggestions in the member comments below!

A Surefire weapon light. For obvious reasons. - Zachary M. Levine

Exterior Vest because of the heat... would be nice to cool off once in a 12-hour shift - Paul Sweeney-Hennessy

To make the M-4 framed .308 semi automatic-rifle with collapse stock standard issue. This will give officers an almost fare chance in a gun fight. - Bruce LaBier

The Easy Button. - Timothy Polley

A bullshit detector 3000. - Christopher Lee Adams

RCB batons. They are effective and don't take up space on a duty belt. - Robert Hawkins 

Night Vision glasses. - Jesse Steve Brown

A portable radio that worked for more than 60% of the time and provides clear transmissions. Ugh. - Jonathan Bruno

Tranquilizer gun. Just put them to sleep and let them wake up in the jail cell. - David Moon

Armored patrol cars since most of the time we use them for cover. - Ben Hignight

Tactical vest carrier so it's easier to carry all my crap on patrol. - Tim Barr

TASER, it simply is the best option to have in a variety of situations. - Isaac John Gerami

A Batman duty belt with 007 devices on it. Better yet maybe just the Chuck Norris round house, that handles everything. - Mike Kinzel

A crystal ball...since its such an inconvenience to ask questions to the important lives of civilians. - Marcelo Pirez

Personal video recorder. Lapel mounted. I would want it for personal debriefing and for evidentiary purposes. - Christopher Matthiae

Body armor. Seriously. They still haven't provided any. - Jay Ó Tuathail

Some of those hidden suspenders for my duty belt, to save my back. Injured backs kill more careers than bullets or crashes. - Werkin Formy Paycheck

Thermal imaging camera/night vision. - Ed Kienzle

I work alone in a rural area so a second officer to patrol with would be nice. - Matt Wagner

Bulletproof pants. - Executive Edge Private Security

https://www.policeone.com/police-products/tactical/articles/facebook-forum-top-20-must-have-tactical-gear-options-x4uCvwCbt4nJjuzW/

Edited June 3, 2020 by Cajun
And #15 is interesting. It's almost like he just wants to say it - "I would want it for personal debriefing and evidentiary purposes. You know, the kind I could turn on when it suits me and off when it doesn't..."

[atomheartbevo 90,645]

5 hours ago, Lobo said:

Seriously?  Or are you just assuming the obvious?  

This would be a really good year for big city police departments to maybe dial back the armored vehicle purchases and drunken shopping sprees in the SPECOPS Catalog.  And maybe use 1% of those savings to invest in a body camera system that actually fucking works for once.  And how is there not, in 2020, a sensor system where if the officer takes his weapon out of his holster, or any other non-lethal weapon or the handcuffs, that it automatically turns his body camera on and it cannot be shut off...period.  After these protests and riots are over, they're gonna have a real hard time convincing mayors, police oversight commissions, and juries of the old line of bullshit, "Uh yeah, just before we entered the premises...my body camera underwent a software update."  

So many of their old tactics are no longer going to fly.  Y'all had a good run though, hope all the murder and evidence planting was worth it. 

I can go buy a used GoPro for a few hundred bucks, and I can strap a wing suit and parachute to my back, jump off of a fucking mountain, make a fatal miscalculation and blow through a shit-ton of trees and tumble down the side of a mountain, and my family, if they choose to, can watch my demise in high-definition.  They can see where my limbs are damn near turned from my body, numerous bones fractured numerous times, where my arms are flailing about like noodles, and they can keep watching all the way up until other people walk up to my corpse and freak the fuck out at what it looks like.

But a lot of these cops seem to have really expensive cameras that accidentally turn themselves off when they get out of the car.

[Guest Lobo]

Supposedly the reason why the camera feed went out during the landing of the Falcon9 on the recovery ship was because of reports of a black ship in that part of the ocean.  

[Buzzrock 15,136]

A step in the right direction


https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/metro-government/2020/06/03/breonna-taylor-protests-limits-no-knock-warrants-advance/3137674001/

[Armybrat 41,403]

18 hours ago, Lobo said:

Supposedly the reason why the camera feed went out during the landing of the Falcon9 on the recovery ship was because of reports of a black ship in that part of the ocean.  

The Black Pearl?

[Guest Lobo]

28 minutes ago, Armybrat said:

The Black Pearl?

Emmanuel Lewis?  

[Armybrat 41,403]

Jack Sparrow.

[Johnny Sack 8,397]

Are there any times a no knock warrant is appropriate?  I really cannot think of any.

[bolverk 30,323]

20 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Are there any times a no knock warrant is appropriate?  I really cannot think of any.

Only circumstance I can think of is if there's suspicion of someone being kidnapped and tied up in the house and the cops feel they need to burst in before the kidnapper is aware of their presence and harm comes to the victim.

[Pato del Muerto 53,492]

On 6/3/2020 at 8:52 AM, Cajun said:

Here's a cop wishlist from a LEO FB page.  I really love #14, as you can just feel the disdain for citizens rights dripping from the corners of the fuckstick's mouth.  I wouldn't count on these wonderful models of restraint and de-escelation to be dialing back their lust for military toy shopping on the taxpayers' dime...

https://www.policeone.com/police-products/tactical/articles/facebook-forum-top-20-must-have-tactical-gear-options-x4uCvwCbt4nJjuzW/

Give them the load bearing suspenders, the outside vest, and the armored car. The safer and more comfortable they feel, the better for all of us. Even the taser and tranq guns sound better than up-arming them to win with force. 
the guys that want bigger and better guns, that’s what the special weapons assault team is for. Join it or stfu. Every officer isn’t swat. If your pistol isn’t sufficient, back off and call for appropriate backup. 

Edited June 4, 2020 by Pato del Muerto

[Armybrat 41,403]

This sad case sounds a lot like the Tuttle “raid” in Houston last year by Art Acevedo’s narc squad. Disgusting.

[Fondren & Main 6,899]

On 6/4/2020 at 10:11 AM, Armybrat said:

This sad case sounds a lot like the Tuttle “raid” in Houston last year by Art Acevedo’s narc squad. Disgusting.

Yes, and it doesn’t seem to be getting a lot of coverage.  Wonder why that is?

[Cajun 11,776]

Yeah, and not one mention by MSM and others of Tony Timpa.  

Strange.

Hmmmmm.....

Edited June 8, 2020 by Cajun
google it

[Cajun 11,776]

On 6/4/2020 at 9:56 AM, Pato del Muerto said:

Give them the load bearing suspenders, the outside vest, and the armored car. The safer and more comfortable they feel, the better for all of us. Even the taser and tranq guns sound better than up-arming them to win with force. 
the guys that want bigger and better guns, that’s what the special weapons assault team is for. Join it or stfu. Every officer isn’t swat. If your pistol isn’t sufficient, back off and call for appropriate backup. 

This guys sure doesn't like your tone...

Edited June 8, 2020 by Cajun
And, again, strange you hardly ever hear this victim's name ever mentioned.

[Fondren & Main 6,899]

1 hour ago, Cajun said:

Yeah, and not one mention by MSM and others of Tony Timpa.  

Strange.

Hmmmmm.....

Yes, I fact checked Timpa when I saw it because I didn’t remember ever hearing about him.  100% true.  Seems the real issue is with police being out of control.  I talked with a friend in HPD and he said they lowered the standards to HS diplomas for new police.  I’m not sure what the solution is, but it’s rather odd that Breona Taylor’s story isn’t getting more run.  

[Catdaddyhorn 3,467]

I also remember a story about a no-knock raid resulting in a flash grenade blowing up in a baby's crib a few years back, leaving the baby with 2nd or 3rd degree burns. That didn't get much attention either outside of maybe Georgia, or Tennessee, or where ever it took place. Wrong door no-knock raids seem like the most flagrant of violations. You'd think these types of stories would get more attention than almost any other. I guess the lack of video corroboration prevents it from being an issue that really catches fire.

[Cajun 11,776]

19 minutes ago, Fondren & Main said:

Yes, I fact checked Timpa when I saw it because I didn’t remember ever hearing about him.  100% true.  Seems the real issue is with police being out of control.  I talked with a friend in HPD and he said they lowered the standards to HS diplomas for new police.  I’m not sure what the solution is, but it’s rather odd that Breona Taylor’s story isn’t getting more run.  

Well, with her there's no video.  

Someone said it on another post, "Can you imagine if there was video of Breona Taylor's murder?"

And poor fucking Tony.  They yucked it up while murdering him and then did the tried and true faux cop concern thing for the body cams once he went into his death rattle.  "Is he snoring?  I think he's snoring.  Hey Tony, c'mon man!  Wake up!!!"  Every bit as fucked up as Floyd's murder.  Every bit.

 

Edited June 8, 2020 by Cajun

[wildcat09 29,579]

1 hour ago, Cajun said:

Yeah, and not one mention by MSM and others of Tony Timpa.  

Strange.

Hmmmmm.....

The Times and CNN covered Tony Timpa at the time.  The media don't create national outrage like this, it grows organically and the media chase after it.