The Snyder Cut! #itshappening

[Parliament 14,286]

After years of protests, petitions, often vicious pile-ons, and Twitter hashtags, what once seemed impossible is actually happening: WarnerMedia announced on Wednesday that HBO Max would “#ReleasetheSnyderCut,” and be home to a new version of the 2017 superhero film Justice League, overseen by director Zack Snyder. The “Snyder Cut,” if you will, is expected to cost upward of $20 million in order to become a very different movie from the one that Joss Whedon had a hand in cobbling together in reshoots.

https://www.polygon.com/2020/5/21/21266527/zack-snyder-cut-justice-league-changes-differences-darkseid-new-scenes

Edited May 22, 2020 by Parliament

[Hawndoh 2,386]

It'll still suck. 

[Parliament 14,286]

First reply.  The movie board is nothing, if not consistent.

[Hawndoh 2,386]

Snyder has the wrong philosophy for a superhero movie.

I watched a really good breakdown of Man of Steel vs Iron Man. Two very similar movies and Man of Steel didn't work and Iron Man kicked off the biggest movie franchise in history.

It explained how Snyder's handling of Superman was all wrong from the beginning.

[Hawndoh 2,386]

Here's the video I watched:

 

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1 hour ago, Hawndoh said:

Snyder has the wrong philosophy for a superhero movie.

I watched a really good breakdown of Man of Steel vs Iron Man. Two very similar movies and Man of Steel didn't work and Iron Man kicked off the biggest movie franchise in history.

It explained how Snyder's handling of Superman was all wrong from the beginning.

From what I've read, Snyder didn't care much for Superman, and wanted to do Batman instead, but took Superman as a way to get into DC and do the Batman movie(s) he wanted.

Favreau and company loved the character of Iron Man.

[futureman 22,535]

comic book movies are for children.  you guys are nerds. 

[Red Five 40,881]

48 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

From what I've read, Snyder didn't care much for Superman, and wanted to do Batman instead, but took Superman as a way to get into DC and do the Batman movie(s) he wanted.

Favreau and company loved the character of Iron Man.

This explains a lot. I liked the part in Man of Steel where Superman allowed Pa Kent to die, so that no one would see him using his superpowers. Because that's totally something Superman would do. 

[DeepEastTexas 644]

On 5/22/2020 at 11:19 AM, Red Five said:

This explains a lot. I liked the part in Man of Steel where Superman allowed Pa Kent to die, so that no one would see him using his superpowers. Because that's totally something Superman would do. 

The Donner movie from 1978 handled this in the best manner. Glenn Ford dies from a heart attack after running with Clark. No matter what powers Clark has, he still can’t save his father. Clark even says as much at the ensuing funeral. 
 

What a powerful moment in the character development for Superman. Not to mention John Williams’ score during the funeral and Clark leaving home shortly after. 
 

No one has ever really “gotten” Superman since, at least in live action. Paul Dini came closest in the animated series. Snyder certainly didn’t. That’s why Donner and Reeve’s 1978 film is the best. The graphics are hokey, and they could’ve found a better Lois Lane, the character development was spot on.

[Michael Knight 12,994]

Snyder make shitty movies

[CurlyDumps 4,478]

Lol @ anyone clamoring for a longer Zach Snyder movie. That’s like demanding your dentist drill in your mouth longer.

Edited May 24, 2020 by CurlyDumps

[Tom 2,959]

I know it's cool to shit on Snyder, but 300 and Watchmen were solid adaptations. Yes, even with the changed ending to Watchmen.

With that said, yes, everything he's done related to Superman/Justice League/DC since then has been terrible.

[ajax 2,620]

The Justice League was one of the worst movies I've ever seen.  Snyder has been good and bad but I'm confident the Snyder cut will be a 1000% improvement. I can't see how it can't be.

[ajax 2,620]

 

 

[Neonmoon 38,130]

Why would anyone invest 20 million to release a different version of a shitty movie?

[washparkhorn 9,939]

I will see it . . . 

"Darkseid, the ruler of Apokolips and a god of fascism — who has the power to bend humanity to his will. . . . 

Apokolips is a hell world, covered in a single ruinous city, dotted with fire pits spewing heat and flames from the world’s core. Darkseid is served by his administrator, Desaad, his bumbling and sycophantic son, Calibak, and other elite torturers, mad scientists, warriors and assassins. These are the New Gods, Steppenwolf among them, who most often come toe to toe with heroes on Earth, whenever Darkseid’s gaze casts itself upon our lowly planet. 

But a villain who can put a boot on even Superman’s neck isn’t the true threat of Apokolips. Again and again, Kirby frames the triumph of Apokolips as a triumph over minds. Darkseid’s armies aren’t monsters, and Parademons aren’t men corrupted by alien science-magic to smell fear and eat flesh. They’re people."

There is a lot for Snyder to work with Darkseid. 

[BigDHornfan 6,549]

13 hours ago, washparkhorn said:

I will see it . . . 

"Darkseid, the ruler of Apokolips and a god of fascism — who has the power to bend humanity to his will. . . . 

Apokolips is a hell world, covered in a single ruinous city, dotted with fire pits spewing heat and flames from the world’s core. Darkseid is served by his administrator, Desaad, his bumbling and sycophantic son, Calibak, and other elite torturers, mad scientists, warriors and assassins. These are the New Gods, Steppenwolf among them, who most often come toe to toe with heroes on Earth, whenever Darkseid’s gaze casts itself upon our lowly planet. 

But a villain who can put a boot on even Superman’s neck isn’t the true threat of Apokolips. Again and again, Kirby frames the triumph of Apokolips as a triumph over minds. Darkseid’s armies aren’t monsters, and Parademons aren’t men corrupted by alien science-magic to smell fear and eat flesh. They’re people."

There is a lot for Snyder to work with Darkseid. 

And that word is...poontang.

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Four one-hour installments on HBO next year.  

Here's the official trailer teaser or whatever.

 

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He loves him some Hallelujah.  

Maybe we'll get a NSFW scene like this.

Spoiler

 

[naija 2,869]

looks like a mess

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4 hours ago, naija said:

looks like a mess

I've seen polished turds, but this turd will be polished like no other in history.

[Longhornfan1024 1,707]

Looks awful.  

[Red Five 40,881]

I wish there were more scenes in slow motion.

[Viper 12,111]

I thought this was a fanmade parody at first with Hallelujah playing. 

 

 

[ajax 2,620]

That sucked. Hope the movie/mini-series is better.

[ajax 2,620]

2 days

The few reviews I've seen have been positive

[Viper 12,111]

19 minutes ago, ajax said:

2 days

The few reviews I've seen have been positive

They usually are. I'll still be surprised if it's good, but he did have hindsight and the ability to have better cgi. 

[Frank The Tank 1,497]

How much will be new shots and acting vs. stuff that was previously filmed and cut?

[NWBuck 8,583]

1 hour ago, Frank The Tank said:

How much will be new shots and acting vs. stuff that was previously filmed and cut?

And how many of the new shots will involve Gal Gadot? Asking for me.

Edited March 17, 2021 by NWBuck

[Dutch 4,474]

20 hours ago, NWBuck said:

And how many of the new shots will involve a nude Gal Gadot? Asking for me.

Fify. 

[ajax 2,620]

I've only watched chapter 1 so far. It's already a million times better than Joss Whedon's version.

 

[greenman 64]

Finished this morning. Really enjoyed it. The soundtrack is like an insane rock opera. What a ride. 

[atomheartbevo 89,779]

Deep into part 1, and shades of Watchmen.   

[CooterBrown 18,022]

Well, that was pretty goddamn good.

There couldn’t have been 30 minutes of common footage between the two movies. Really unbelievable that much film was on the cutting room floor.

I hope we get the Darkseid movie Bruce’s dreams allude to and it’s a 4 hour Snyder cut.

[satyanash 14,609]

On 3/17/2021 at 12:57 AM, NWBuck said:

And how many of the new shots will involve Gal Gadot? Asking for me.

She phoned it in big time. That whole speech she gave about Darkseid's past literally sounded like she was bored and reading off a sheet of paper.

And her "Kal-El, noooo" line was hysterically bad. She's not a very good actress.

Edited March 19, 2021 by satyanash

[High Plains Drifter 11,050]

 

 

[Parliament 14,286]

My buddy is a huge comic book fan, but he's no DC homer. Says it's a great movie and totally different from the Whedon version.

[UT_OB1 2,224]

It was ok. Way too long. I liked what they did with cyborgs story.  Had the same issues as the other - Superman shows up and it’s no contest.  

[CooterBrown 18,022]

She phoned it in big time. That whole speech she gave about Darkseid's past literally sounded like she was bored and reading off a sheet of paper.
And her "Kal-El, noooo" line was hysterically bad. She's not a very good actress.

I would think she’s been an English speaker since a very young age but a good portion of her lines sounds like she learned how to say words in another language without actually learning the language and she can’t annunciate at all. Like Peggy Hill’s Spanish.

However, at least Snyder understands the character unlike Patti Jenkins. WW is much better here than her own movies.

[mdmost 43,034]

We made it to the start of Part 5 and called it a night. Have to say, I liked what I saw and I typically hate any non-Batman WB movies. 

[Red Five 40,881]

Y'all are confusing me. 

[Gene Parmesan 4,014]

I'm not about to invest 4 hours to see a shitty movie made less shitty.

[bernorange 8,363]

Was it better than the 2017 JL?  Yes, by a mile.

Was it a great movie by superhero movie standards?  Not really.  It was good enough which is much better than most DC superhero movies.

Did the expanded footage make the story more comprehensible?  Yes

Was The Flash still annoying as comic relief?  Yes

Could the movie have been shortened to 3 hours long if they got rid of all the gratuitous and distracting slow mo scenes?  Yes

Was the epilogue more interesting than the main movie?  Yes

[UT Football Fan 18]

I couldn't watch this on my Fire Stick - it wouldn't render the video but the audio was fine.  I was able to Chromecast it from my pc to the TV though, so I don't think it was an aspect ratio problem with my TV.  Weird.  Other HBO max stuff plays just fine.

I had never watched this or BvS before because of the bad reviews.  Glad I waited for the extended versions.  Enjoyed them a lot and they made as much sense as this type of movie usually does.  No really big chunks of missing plot.

Oh, HBO max chromecasted to TV would not display the subtitles, which I really needed for some of the dialogue, so I had to keep switching back to the pc and rewinding since the CC worked on the PC.  That was annoying.

Edited March 19, 2021 by UT Football Fan

[ajax 2,620]

I never would have guessed that a Snyder movie would have much better character development than the Whedon version of the same movie.

And I never would have guessed that at this point in time, Snyder's career would be on the rise (rumor has it he's being pursued for a Star Wars movie) and Whedon's career would be in the shitter. If only Whedon wasn't such a massive asshole.

[Underdog 28,767]

Tom Snyder?  Miss that guy. 

[SwanderedTalent 5,761]

16 hours ago, satyanash said:

She phoned it in big time.

I'd pay to watch her read the phone book

[BrazilHorn 6,630]

Is anyone talking about how utterly shitty the CGI at beginning of the movie is? 
Movie is getting better as I watch but the opening 15 mins or so are awful special effects. 

[ajax 2,620]

2 hours ago, SwanderedTalent said:

I'd pay to watch her read the phone book

Can't be any worse than her telling Batman about Darkseid.

[Tommy Shelby 188]

12 hours ago, UT Football Fan said:

I couldn't watch this on my Fire Stick - it wouldn't render the video but the audio was fine.  I was able to Chromecast it from my pc to the TV though, so I don't think it was an aspect ratio problem with my TV.  Weird.  Other HBO max stuff plays just fine.

I had never watched this or BvS before because of the bad reviews.  Glad I waited for the extended versions.  Enjoyed them a lot and they made as much sense as this type of movie usually does.  No really big chunks of missing plot.

Oh, HBO max chromecasted to TV would not display the subtitles, which I really needed for some of the dialogue, so I had to keep switching back to the pc and rewinding since the CC worked on the PC.  That was annoying.

Have you tried Google TV? Hands down the best option. Having a remote that you can talk into with the best voice recognition out there is great, and since it has volume, power and input buttons which can all be IR or HDMI-CEC is a game changer. Plus the recommendations and the ability for it search all the apps without you opening them is awesome (like you can look up an actor/director or whatever and get all of the movies they are in). The fire sticks have always been slow and glitchy for me and the chromecast (even the max) was always kind of clunky because you had to use your phone or laptop since it didn’t really have a UI.