Waco Attorneys Arrested in Murder for Hire Plot

[El Diablo 4232]

4 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Got rained out, tomorrow. Maybe.

[MaybeACoordinator 8349]

2 hours ago, Pam Cummings said:

Boomerang face. I like it. Because when you see this bitch coming you turn and walk the other way like a boomerang.

In this case it's more cause that chin could give you a shocker while she's blowing you...Maybe that's why dude was so willing to go to bat for her like he did (allegedly). 

Like this, only inverted

[C-Man 27082]

I've got a few FB friends in common with Seth. Looks like he's in some marriage pics taken only 2-3 years ago. That already go south or is this chick his side piece?

[cattail 112]

Yup, she def cray. Can see the tell tale marks of a cutter in the pic as mentioned above. One should never fornicate with a cutter. No good can come of it.

[Clintonaldo 2571]

I really want to be interested in this but she isn’t hot enough. What a shame. 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13418]

The child molesting aspect of the guy-to-be-killed is the big unknown. Say he absolutely did that, then I can see someone wanting him dead and perhaps using a hit man. It’s wrong but the emotion is understandable.

but that accusation could just as easily be seen as part of the murder plot. Get the “accusation” on record, and then when the molester turns up murdered, the police might be less likely to look for the real killer.

hit men transactions seem so common in movies but so often foiled by police in real life. But then again how do we know the actual # since we only know about ones caught.

[Trey3216 15325]

5 hours ago, C-Man said:

I've got a few FB friends in common with Seth. Looks like he's in some marriage pics taken only 2-3 years ago. That already go south or is this chick his side piece?

Still married 

[Cajun 11675]

39 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

The child molesting aspect of the guy-to-be-killed is the big unknown. Say he absolutely did that, then I can see someone wanting him dead and perhaps using a hit man. It’s wrong but the emotion is understandable.

but that accusation could just as easily be seen as part of the murder plot. Get the “accusation” on record, and then when the molester turns up murdered, the police might be less likely to look for the real killer.

hit men transactions seem so common in movies but so often foiled by police in real life. But then again how do we know the actual # since we only know about ones caught.

Kids are coached, cops are misled and weaponized, DAs are duped, false charges are brought all the time.

If most people knew how common this was things might change, but unfortunately ignorance is bliss.

Not saying that's what has happened here, but it's far from improbable.  I'd say it's 50/50.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13418]

Houston had that vet that tried to have her ex husband murdered as well. Now her boyfriend was shady but you never know when someone that seems perfectly respectful goes bad.

[Anastasis 23401]

How many of these things get broken up when the hit man ends up being an undercover cop? Are these guys just calling craigslist ads or something?

[Murfdogg21 4412]

There are plenty of unsolved murders, so I wouldn’t say it never works. 

[Al_4_ISU 12409]

20 hours ago, Cajun said:

Nope.  It reeks of one thing and one thing only.

Waco.

Creepiest, most fucked up place in this state by far.  And, yes, I'm considering Collie Station.

Waco might be the creepiest, most fucked up place in the country.

[Cajun 11675]

13 hours ago, MaybeACoordinator said:

I did...Box Face wasn't cutting it.

iswydt

[Cajun 11675]

9 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

Waco might be the creepiest, most fucked up place in the country.

My first thought and was about to type than, but then a thought entered my mind...

Florida.

Edited May 25, 2020 by Cajun
But more serious, I used to live in Louisiana and had that state, AR, and MS as a territory. Seen ALL of it from the inside out. Watch True Detective Season 1. Accurate as FUCK. Lotsa competition for little ole Waco.

[Al_4_ISU 12409]

My first thought and was about to type than, but then a thought entered my mind...
Florida.

Fair.

Waco is easily the creepiest place I’ve ever been.

[Cajun 11675]

Go spend some time in Jackson, MS, West Memphis, AR, and/or Bastrop, LA.

On second thought, don't.

[markstanco 12528]

Waco might be the creepiest, most fucked up place in the country.

Florida agrees.

[Neonmoon 38127]

1 hour ago, Murfdogg21 said:

There are plenty of unsolved murders, so I wouldn’t say it never works. 

I once read that painting houses does go unnoticed from time to time 

[RDCanecutter 26340]

1 hour ago, Al_4_ISU said:

Fair.

Waco is easily the creepiest place I’ve ever been.

I always think of it as the love child of Montgomery Alabama and a truck stop waitress from Hewitt. In Waco's youth its father Montgomery took an interest in it, and sturdy young Waco knew it would be somebody.

Then everyone grew older, the visits ceased, and the phone calls trailed off.

[Cajun 11675]

I remember coming back once from a rotation that took me through Starkville, Hattiesburg, and Picayunne Mississippi.  I was so relieved hitting the Slidell, LA city limit on the way back down 59 to take my right on I-10 to Mandeville where I lived.

Speaks volumes when gotdamned Slidell is the oasis in the desert.

Fuuuuuuuuuck

Edited May 25, 2020 by Cajun

[Steel Shank 9416]

21 minutes ago, Cajun said:

I remember coming back once from a rotation that took me through Starkville, Hattiesburg, and Picayunne Mississippi.  I was so relieved hitting the Slidell, LA city limit on the way back down 59 to take my right on I-10 to Mandeville where I lived.

Speaks volumes when gotdamned Slidell is the oasis in the desert.

Fuuuuuuuuuck

These are strong words, Cajun. Strong, bold words.

[Cajun 11675]

Just my feeling in that moment at that time.  That circuit through MS really put the zap on my head.

I remember pulling up behind some dude in Picayunne, I think.  He had a rebel flag bumper sticker with something written under it that I couldn't quite make out, so I edged up a little closer.

Once I was able to pull focus I read the words, "It's a WHITE THANG, DEAL WITH IT!!!"

Guy looked like he tried out for Lynyrd Skynyrd but they turned him down for being too fuckin' ugly.

/csb

Edited May 25, 2020 by Cajun

[Al_4_ISU 12409]

I always think of it as the love child of Montgomery Alabama and a truck stop waitress from Hewitt. In Waco's youth its father Montgomery took an interest in it, and sturdy young Waco knew it would be somebody.
Then everyone grew older, the visits ceased, and the phone calls trailed off.

My first experience in Waco was an ISU/Baylor game at Floyd Casey.

It was the most depressing backdrop for college football I’ve seen. Within 20 minutes of being there, our entire group felt like there was an eerie vibe. Like we were on a haunted Native American burial ground. There were more ISU fans tailgating than Baylor fans.

There was a strand of porta-pots with no one around them, so I headed that way to piss. When I open the door, there’s a little old lady in an 1800’s style dress taking a deuce. I stand there shocked in frozen terror, and she just silently glared and looked me right in the eye.

I took off screaming.

That’s Waco, to me.

[RDCanecutter 26340]

1 minute ago, Al_4_ISU said:

That’s Waco, to me.

My first experience was a summer job in Waco while I was a punchably-smug grad student in Austin.

While in Austin, I had heard the usual talk about How Cool Austin Was Before X Y and Z Happened. In Waco, it felt like an Alternate Earth Austin where that stuff had not happened. It was almost a mirror image of Austin's layout, instead of Town Lake to the south, you had the Brazos to the north (or "east" as they pronounce "north" in Waco,) and a big downtown of ... nothing. They blame the tornado but in truth they themselves gutted a riverside district of SIN that probably would have rivaled a Spring Break Bordertown back in the day.

So, Grad Student Me would bolt back to Austin every spare minute, and I didn't get the real feel for Waco at the time. Fast Forward to Full-Grown Me, who got more gigs there. As I grew older and less caring, I would just stay the weekends in Planet Waco, exploring it and its surrounding moons (Marlin, McGregor, West, so on and so on.) I accepted it for what it was.

It is the farthest west that I've ever felt that sad Cotton Kingdom vibe, so the Montgomery love-child joke isn't that far off.

It is its own place. When you look at the courthouse, it's easy to imagine you are within a small McLennan County state of its own, a Rhode Island sized chunk inside Texas. Also, there are two Wacos-- the real Waco in the middle, which is a solid lump of a grid pattern, and the outer Waco, where everybody drives in circles around Waco. This isn't unique among US cities, but Waco is one of the few where the "shortcuts" around the outside are about an 8 times longer drive than just shooting through the middle.

[Johnny Sack 8397]

4 hours ago, Anastasis said:

How many of these things get broken up when the hit man ends up being an undercover cop? Are these guys just calling craigslist ads or something?

Seems like hiring one out would make it much easier to get caught.  Because there is no way the shooter isn't rolling over if caught and questioned.  If it's you and you are smart, and they don't have great evidence, keep your mouth shut and you stand a strong chance of walking.

[RDCanecutter 26340]

33 minutes ago, Cajun said:

Just my feeling in that moment at that time.  That circuit through MS really put the zap on my head.

I remember pulling up behind some dude in Picayunne, I think.  He had a rebel flag bumper sticker with something written under it that I couldn't quite make out, so I edged up a little closer.

Once I was able to pull focus I read the words, "It's a WHITE THANG, DEAL WITH IT!!!"

Guy looked like he tried out for Lynyrd Skynyrd but they turned him down for being too fuckin' ugly.

/csb

The displaced British of the Upper South, like Xenophon's Greeks, feel no peace until they get back near enough to the sea that the beer joints' parking lots are made of sea shells.

[RDCanecutter 26340]

4 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Seems like hiring one out would make it much easier to get caught.  Because there is no way the shooter isn't rolling over if caught and questioned.  If it's you and you are smart, and they don't have great evidence, keep your mouth shut and you stand a strong chance of walking.

I take it from Homeboy's Law Office profile that he's really smart. He pretty much said so.

[Cajun 11675]

7 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

The displaced British of the Upper South, like Xenophon's Greeks, feel no peace until they get back near enough to the sea that the beer joints' parking lots are made of sea shells.

[Player 4575]

21 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

Also, there are two Wacos-- the real Waco in the middle, which is a solid lump of a grid pattern, and the outer Waco, where everybody drives in circles around Waco. This isn't unique among US cities, but Waco is one of the few where the "shortcuts" around the outside are about an 8 times longer drive than just shooting through the middle.

"Y'all ready to go see some Christmas lights?!!??"

[ROFL BOX 6647]

and said he would help the officer leave town after committing the murder.

Hell, this ain't Hawai'i... you get on 35 & drive N or S.

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[ROFL BOX 6647]

Interesting tats 
 

Ally Sheedy face.

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[South Austin 52169]

35 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

If it's you and you are smart, and they don't have great evidence, keep your mouth shut and you stand a strong chance of walking.

This guy fucks murders.

[TexasEd 8064]

5 hours ago, Cajun said:

Kids are coached, cops are misled and weaponized, DAs are duped, false charges are brought all the time.

If most people knew how common this was things might change, but unfortunately ignorance is bliss.

Not saying that's what has happened here, but it's far from improbable.  I'd say it's 50/50.

If they are crazy enough to hire a hit man they are crazy enough to falsely accuse of rape or child molestation.

[tx 3 putt 76476]

5 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Houston had that vet that tried to have her ex husband murdered as well. Now her boyfriend was shady but you never know when someone that seems perfectly respectful goes bad.

that was crazy, she killed her self by jumping off a patio

Edited May 25, 2020 by tx 3 putt

[TwiceHorn 31320]

6 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

The child molesting aspect of the guy-to-be-killed is the big unknown. Say he absolutely did that, then I can see someone wanting him dead and perhaps using a hit man. It’s wrong but the emotion is understandable.

but that accusation could just as easily be seen as part of the murder plot. Get the “accusation” on record, and then when the molester turns up murdered, the police might be less likely to look for the real killer.

hit men transactions seem so common in movies but so often foiled by police in real life. But then again how do we know the actual # since we only know about ones caught.

My theory was/is that the molestation beef was an attempt to get a leg up in a custody dispute.  When it looked like that was going to fail, Plan B.

[Iceman 2650]

1 hour ago, tx 3 putt said:

that was crazy, she killed her self by jumping off a patio

so...like a 4" drop?

[BottleRocket 644]

so...like a 4" drop?

Thickened slab.

[tx 3 putt 76476]

6 minutes ago, Iceman said:

so...like a 4" drop?

anything over 4 ft, you must be tied off with a 6 ft lanyard in most petrochem facilities. safety first !!!!

 

[Cajun 11675]

1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

My theory was/is that the molestation beef was an attempt to get a leg up in a custody dispute.  When it looked like that was going to fail, Plan B.

EXTREMELY plausible from my experience.  

Amazing what people will cook up outta thin air.

And the fact that the cops arrested him don't make a shit.  Trust me on that one.

[ROFL BOX 6647]

anything over 4 ft, you must be tied off with a 6 ft lanyard in most petrochem facilities. safety first !!!!
 

OSHA says the same thing about ladders / roofing.
My ? is how do you get up top to put the ring on the ridge cap if you aren't already tied off to the ridge cap?

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[tx 3 putt 76476]

very carefully 

[Iceman 2650]

37 minutes ago, BottleRocket said:

Thickened slab.

You got Vic's attention...

[MaybeACoordinator 8349]

4 hours ago, Cajun said:

I remember coming back once from a rotation that took me through Starkville, Hattiesburg, and Picayunne Mississippi.  I was so relieved hitting the Slidell, LA city limit on the way back down 59 to take my right on I-10 to Mandeville where I lived.

Speaks volumes when gotdamned Slidell is the oasis in the desert.

Fuuuuuuuuuck

Yeah a year or so back my wife kid and I took a trip to the White River country of north central Arkansas, a little bit west of Hot Springs....Everything south of and west of Hot Springs was a great abomination of desolation...I once spent a week in the hollers of West Virginia and the rural squalor of SW Arkansas was ten times worse than that. It was like there was a regionwide competition for rusted out appliance stacking in the yard of every decrepit trailer, not even to mention the dead trucks and cars. Maybe there were meth precursors in some of these hunks of metal and old fluids and that was why they kept them around...Anyway, coming into Bossier Parish Louisiana felt like entering Denmark direct from Honduras. I repeat, Bossier Parish, relatively civilized to the hellhole we just left. And the wife and kid were too spooked / eager to get through that part of Arkansas they wouldn't let me get a smoked turkey from that one joint that attempts to redeem that whole part of the country...We did pass through Hope and Evening Shade, where all the Huckabees are buried. 

1 hour ago, tx 3 putt said:

that was crazy, she killed her self by jumping off a patio

She was my wife's vet for years. All her customers loved her...She was a good woman driven nuts by her ex dumping her and then falling for a sleazebucket dude while on the rebound. 

[El Diablo 4232]

5 hours ago, RDCanecutter said:

My first experience was a summer job in Waco while I was a punchably-smug grad student in Austin.

While in Austin, I had heard the usual talk about How Cool Austin Was Before X Y and Z Happened. In Waco, it felt like an Alternate Earth Austin where that stuff had not happened. It was almost a mirror image of Austin's layout, instead of Town Lake to the south, you had the Brazos to the north (or "east" as they pronounce "north" in Waco,) and a big downtown of ... nothing. They blame the tornado but in truth they themselves gutted a riverside district of SIN that probably would have rivaled a Spring Break Bordertown back in the day.

So, Grad Student Me would bolt back to Austin every spare minute, and I didn't get the real feel for Waco at the time. Fast Forward to Full-Grown Me, who got more gigs there. As I grew older and less caring, I would just stay the weekends in Planet Waco, exploring it and its surrounding moons (Marlin, McGregor, West, so on and so on.) I accepted it for what it was.

It is the farthest west that I've ever felt that sad Cotton Kingdom vibe, so the Montgomery love-child joke isn't that far off.

It is its own place. When you look at the courthouse, it's easy to imagine you are within a small McLennan County state of its own, a Rhode Island sized chunk inside Texas. Also, there are two Wacos-- the real Waco in the middle, which is a solid lump of a grid pattern, and the outer Waco, where everybody drives in circles around Waco. This isn't unique among US cities, but Waco is one of the few where the "shortcuts" around the outside are about an 8 times longer drive than just shooting through the middle.

If you know what's good for you you'll stay off of Waco Drive between Valley Mills Drive and I-35 in Bellmead. Some bad hombres prowl that stretch, sabes? 

[MaybeACoordinator 8349]

Catholics are noted for their Madonna / whore complex with regards to women. Good girls are to be protected at all costs and the whores -- well, they are just temptresses to be used and abused. Baptists seem to be even worse -- especially the Waco variety. Any sin the men get up to with them is the sole fault of the Jezebel. It didn't start with Briles -- it is just the way things are and always have been in that world. 

Tl'dr of that link above -- Waco once had more whorehouses per capita than anywhere else in Texas; Baylor has always been a place where prominent men can rape to their heart's content, and back the 1890s, calling them out for same could get you lynched or gunned down by cowards in the street.

 

 

Edited May 25, 2020 by MaybeACoordinator

[Cajun 11675]

1 hour ago, MaybeACoordinator said:

Yeah a year or so back my wife kid and I took a trip to the White River country of north central Arkansas, a little bit west of Hot Springs....Everything south of and west of Hot Springs was a great abomination of desolation...I once spent a week in the hollers of West Virginia and the rural squalor of SW Arkansas was ten times worse than that. It was like there was a regionwide competition for rusted out appliance stacking in the yard of every decrepit trailer, not even to mention the dead trucks and cars. Maybe there were meth precursors in some of these hunks of metal and old fluids and that was why they kept them around...Anyway, coming into Bossier Parish Louisiana felt like entering Denmark direct from Honduras. I repeat, Bossier Parish, relatively civilized to the hellhole we just left. And the wife and kid were too spooked / eager to get through that part of Arkansas they wouldn't let me get a smoked turkey from that one joint that attempts to redeem that whole part of the country...We did pass through Hope and Evening Shade, where all the Huckabees are buried. 

 

Yep.  I had one fucking decent broker in south AR that I had to go see.  He was in El Dorado.  I would swing up and see him on my Jackson, MS/Monroe/Ruston/Shreveport, LA runs.

Whole town looked like this as well as the trip to and from...

[Johnny Sack 8397]

3 minutes ago, Cajun said:

Yep.  I had one fucking decent broker in south AR that I had to go see.  He was in El Dorado.  I would swing up and see him on my Jackson, MS/Monroe/Ruston/Shreveport, LA runs.

Whole town looked like this as well as the trip to and from...

I'd cut a bitch for an old school bowling alley nearby.  My kids and I used to regularly go to the one on Bellaire near Little Woodrows and the UP train tracks.  Until it shut down a couple years ago.  Smelly, cheap food, cheap bowling, cheap beer, etc.  My kids still talk about it.  A great way to spend a hot summer afternoon and not spend more than $40.

Now the closest ones are fancy and all run about $100 for bowling, a couple drinks and food.

Surely there is a cheap bowling alley in Houston?

[MaybeACoordinator 8349]

5 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

I'd cut a bitch for an old school bowling alley nearby.  My kids and I used to regularly go to the one on Bellaire near Little Woodrows and the UP train tracks.  Until it shut down a couple years ago.  Smelly, cheap food, cheap bowling, cheap beer, etc.  My kids still talk about it.  A great way to spend a hot summer afternoon and not spend more than $40.

Now the closest ones are fancy and all run about $100 for bowling, a couple drinks and food.

Surely there is a cheap bowling alley in Houston?

Maybe try the Delmar (looks like it's succumbed to hipsterism) and the Armadilla -- judging by the spellin' it seems unlikely to be hipsterized.  

[Cajun 11675]

@Johnny Sack

I live in SA now, but this is still the only one that matters in my world...

 

Because...

Edited May 25, 2020 by Cajun

[Johnny Sack 8397]

3 minutes ago, MaybeACoordinator said:

Maybe try the Delmar (looks like it's succumbed to hipsterism) and the Armadilla -- judging by the spellin' it seems unlikely to be hipsterized.  

I want a shithole.  Where the rich MILFs at my kids' school wouldn't be caught dead.  But I also don't want to get stabbed.  Delmar looks expensive.  Armadilla looks stabby.