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19 minutes ago, Foosters said:

Any thoughts on the President of the United States ONLY revoking clearance for those who speak out against him?

I think he's a totally narcissistic head case and should be removed from office via the 25th amendment.  Next question please. 

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23 minutes ago, Tuco said:


Oh noes...another shitheel wants to define the Resistance in terms of what personally bothers them. Whatever will I do about this imagined dilemma.

Well, if you are in the business of managing the GoFundMe accounts for ex-spooks I would recommend that your first action is to increase the funding goal.  Don't do something low hanging like $150-250k.  Go for a half MM minimum. 

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37 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Man, I can't wait for another poster to put up a tweeted joke about a Go Fund Me for John Brennan. They're a hoot!

 

30 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Bro, what about a GoFundMe for Brennan?!?!! 

 

LOLZ

 

It's almost as if their tweets are being coordinated.

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1 hour ago, Dertyberd said:

Except he knows that can't happen because his cabinet if full of ass kissing equally corrupt cronies.  All of his schtick is tired and disingenuous.  

Way I see it, there are four ways out that have some realistic likelihood of happening.  In order of likelihood:

1) Voted out in 2020

2) Stroke or AMI or other medical (note this technically would be implemented via the 25th amendment)

3) Removed from office via VP and majority of cabinet (25th section 4)

4) Assassination (again, technically 25th amendment)

 

Removal via Article 1 proceedings ain't gonna happen, so no need to even rank it. By my reckoning, 3 of 4 options with some basis in reality are grounded in the 25th amendment. I could see 2 and 3 flipping with another showing like Helsinki. 

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^I don't see how he finishes his first term without major mental or physical debilitation, but I wouldn't bet against him.

 

2 hours ago, Js1 said:

It's going to be so sweet when Mueller lowers the boom on the WH, whatever form it takes. Even if he doesn't get DOTUS, let's hope he has the goods on Kush and Jr.

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On 8/14/2018 at 4:41 PM, Gil Bang said:

Who are these people?  I mean fuck...even if I'm a racist and I  like the racist part of Trump, there is so much about him that is distasteful otherwise.   His own wife hates him.   Who the fuck LIKES this guy...not his presidency,  not his  policy, but HIM?

I think this just means that 31% of Americans have never heard of Donald Trump

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3 hours ago, Lagunamadre said:

You do know this doesn't make Brennan go away right? It's not like he just got fired. 

John Brennan is a very bad dude with few redeeming qualities.  As an unelected official he works and has worked constantly to delegitimize the duly elected POTUS. I’d bet your left nut he’s one of the top “sources” for many leaked negative stories to news agencies, including many false or misleading ones.  I repeat, good riddance. 

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19 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

John Brennan is a very bad dude with few redeeming qualities.  As an unelected official he works and has worked constantly to delegitimize the duly elected POTUS. I’d bet your left nut he’s one of the top “sources” for many leaked negative stories to news agencies, including many false or misleading ones.  I repeat, good riddance. 

This is just going to lead to Trump's intelligence officials losing their clearances once he's out of office.

That's not a good thing, but Donald Trump is an idiot so whatever.

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20 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

John Brennan is a very bad dude with few redeeming qualities.  As an unelected official he works and has worked constantly to delegitimize the duly elected POTUS. I’d bet your left nut he’s one of the top “sources” for many leaked negative stories to news agencies, including many false or misleading ones.  I repeat, good riddance. 

Try to imagine being this stupid.

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19 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

John Brennan is a very bad dude with few redeeming qualities.  As an unelected official he works and has worked constantly to delegitimize the duly elected POTUS. I’d bet your left nut he’s one of the top “sources” for many leaked negative stories to news agencies, including many false or misleading ones.  I repeat, good riddance. 

Fortunately for me, you don't have my testicles to gamble with. And I repeat, he's not going anywhere. I'd save your goodbyes. 

This was a symbolic gesture, it's not like he was getting daily briefings. He hasn't been getting classified info since the day he stopped serving his country. 

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24 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

This is just going to lead to Trump's intelligence officials losing their clearances once he's out of office.

That's not a good thing, but Donald Trump is an idiot so whatever.

If Trump’s intelligence officials spend most of their time in the public eye trolling, talking shit to, and undercutting the next president I would expect them to get their clearances revoked as well. 

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25 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

John Brennan is a very bad dude with few redeeming qualities.  As an unelected official he works and has worked constantly to delegitimize the duly elected POTUS. I’d bet your left nut he’s one of the top “sources” for many leaked negative stories to news agencies, including many false or misleading ones.  I repeat, good riddance. 

Well when the duly elected POTUS constantly puts his own interest above those of the country he swore to protect and defend I happen to think that people who call them out on that are not “very bad dude(s) with few redeeming qualities.”

You apparently disagree. So you are once again showing your ass to this board and proving once again that you are trump butt licker troll (who but of course didn’t vote for him) and a complete piece of shit. 

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34 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

I don’t think you understand. Anastasis carries the water for abuse of executive power because BOTH sides.

I think that all this new found interest in the abuse of executive power is cute.  It's going to be sadly predictable watching all those concerns go poof come 2021. Just like they did 2009. 

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20 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

If Trump’s intelligence officials spend most of their time in the public eye trolling, talking shit to, and undercutting the next president I would expect them to get their clearances revoked as well. 

No you wouldn’t. You would start praising them for their courage in speaking out and would then start bashing the next president for revoking their clearance because they don’t adequately suck the president’s dick in your humble opinion. You aren’t fooling anyone with your supposed neutrality you worthless troll. 

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23 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

If Trump’s intelligence officials spend most of their time in the public eye trolling, talking shit to, and undercutting the next president I would expect them to get their clearances revoked as well. 

That's the thing. It won't require any of that now. 

Thanks, Donald.

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27 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

Well when the duly elected POTUS constantly puts his own interest above those of the country he swore to protect and defend I happen to think that people who call them out on that are not “very bad dude(s) with few redeeming qualities.”

You apparently disagree. So you are once again showing your ass to this board and proving once again that you are trump butt licker troll (who but of course didn’t vote for him) and a complete piece of shit. 

He’s a very bad dude for many reasons.  

That’s sweet that you think Brennan is some nonpartisan white knight, but let’s be real. He’s a 100% partisan political figure who, if you know his past abuses, is probably more worried about anything that might be dug up on him than the country itself. 

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18 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

He’s a very bad dude for many reasons.  

That’s sweet that you think Brennan is some nonpartisan white knight, but let’s be real. He’s a 100% partisan political figure who, if you know his past abuses, is probably more worried about anything that might be dug up on him than the country itself. 

Name them

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20 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

He’s a very bad dude for many reasons.  

That’s sweet that you think Brennan is some nonpartisan white knight, but let’s be real. He’s a 100% partisan political figure who, if you know his past abuses, is probably more worried about anything that might be dug up on him than the country itself. 

You're just mad because he's right about Donald Trump.

 

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26 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

That's the thing. It won't require any of that now. 

Thanks, Donald.

Good.  Once you separate from your government position you should not have access to classified government materials. 

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20 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Good.  Once you separate from your government position you should not have access to classified government materials. 

That's a terrible precedent. Institutional knowledge is real and valuable. Not having these people available weakens our national security.

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33 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

 

I think that all this new found interest in the abuse of executive power is cute.  It's going to be sadly predictable watching all those concerns go poof come 2021. Just like they did 2009. 

I'm sure you'll weep just as heavily as you did when it happened in 2001 and 2017.

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21 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Good.  Once you separate from your government position you should not have access to classified government materials. 

You're right, there's no way that Intel agencies may want to read someone back into an operation they used to lead for guidance and advice. It's not like they can just access any information for funsies, you know that right? Having the clearance just let's them be read in if the people currently in the agency wish it. 

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I think that all this new found interest in the abuse of executive power is cute.  It's going to be sadly predictable watching all those concerns go poof come 2021. Just like they did 2009. 

I think all this justifying of the current abuse of executive power is cute. It’s going to be sadly predictable watching your concerns suddenly reappear come 2021, just like they did in 2009.

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38 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

Name them

Really?  Did you think that immoral, illegal behavior by our government officials started with Trump?  I’ll let you google him.

38 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

You're just mad because he's right about Donald Trump.

 

I’m not mad.  I’m glad he’s gone. It’s silly to be putting up this turd as some resistance hero.  

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22 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

Really?  Did you think that immoral, illegal behavior by our government officials started with Trump?  I’ll let you google him.

I’m not mad.  I’m glad he’s gone. It’s silly to be putting up this turd as some resistance hero.  

Nice cop out. I can google whatever. I kind of figured you were googling trying to justify your statement. Instead you come back with this bullshit.

Name what you believe. Or admit that you won’t and are just talking out of your ass. 

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I love how Brennan goes on Twitter to pronounce how his freedom of speech is being restricted.  That is like making a speech at a Planned Parenthood office about how your rights to an abortion are being restricted.  Also where was Brennon's outrage about the freedom of speech being restricted when the Obama administration ordered a government wide reassessment of security clearances in 2013?

https://www.politico.com/story/2013/11/government-security-clearance-list-100195

The Obama administration has ordered a government-wide reassessment of how almost 5 million Americans have been granted classified information security clearances and whether each person currently approved to see sensitive national security secrets truly has a need for such access.

Reeling from National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden’s leaks of top-secret surveillance programs and mentally computer contractor Aaron Alexis’s deadly shooting rampage at the Washington Navy Yard, the intelligence community is coming to the conclusion that the sheer number of personnel with clearances is making the government and the country as a whole vulnerable to a slew of dangers.

In a directive obtained by POLITICO, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper questioned the booming rolls of security-clearance holders. At last count, more than 4.9 million people held clearances, of whom over 1.4 million were cleared for access at the “Top Secret” level.

“I write to express my concern about threats to national security resulting from the increasing number of people with eligibility for access to classified national security information, particularly Top Secret (TS) and Top Secret/Secure Compartmented Information (TS/SCI),” Clapper wrote in a three-page memo, dated Oct. 31 and cited at a Senate hearing Wednesday.

Clapper asked agencies to perform a top-to-bottom scrub of the teeming rolls of people authorized to access classified information and to remove anyone deemed not to have a so-called need to know.

The memo itself does not set a deadline for the government-wide clearance review, but an aide to Clapper told a Senate Homeland Security and Government Affairs subcommittee that agencies have until the end of January to complete the process.

The new order may not have much immediate effect on the number of people with security clearances. That’s because individuals retain their clearances for a period of time even after they leave their jobs or are deemed to no longer require access to classified information.

“I ask that agency heads… conduct a comprehensive review validating that each government employee or contractor who has been granted a security clearance continues to require such eligibility for access to classified national security information in support of their current position or your agency’s mission,” Clapper wrote. “Agencies should debrief all government and contractor personnel who no longer require such access and update the appropriate national security database or repository.”

Clapper’s directive indicates that the Obama administration has not only begun to view the huge number of clearances as a security risk, but a serious budgetary stress. The federal government spends about $1 billion a year on background checks, according to the Government Accountability Office.

Under government rules, employees and contractors with top secret clearances are supposed to have their backgrounds re-checked at least every five years and people with secret clearances are supposed to undergo such reviews at least every ten years. Due to budget issues, that simply isn’t happening, Clapper acknowledges.

“As a result of budget shortfalls and the impacts of sequestration, several agencies temporarily suspended the initiation of periodic reinvestigations,” he wrote. “Such actions foster counterintelligence and national security risk.”

The bulk of Clapper’s memo is devoted to encouraging agencies to prioritize such reviews to address the most likely and most significant potential threats. The priority list he lays out clearly appears to have been influenced by the case of Snowden, who served as a computer technician and systems administrator for contractor Booz Allen Hamilton at a National Security Agency facility in Hawaii.

Officials have said Snowden used his administrator privileges to obtain many of the thousands of sensitive documents he allegedly copied. Others he reportedly obtained by using his tech support role to convince NSA colleagues to share their passwords.

Included on Clapper’s list of “highest-risk” groups worthy of frequent reinvestigation: “Privileged Users, or other information technology specialists involved with information sharing activities.” The category includes “Data Transfer Officers, System Administrators (Sys Admins) with unlimited access, Sys Admins who can access more than a local system, or Sys Admins with localized permissions.”

At Wednesday’s hearing, Sen. Jon Tester (D-Mont.) suggested the number of Americans with security clearances has grown far too large.

“I don’t know about you, but 5 million seems like a heck of a lot of folks to have security clearance. And 1.4 million top-secret security clearances seems like a pile,” Tester said. “That’s more than live in the state of Montana by about 40 percent.”

Initially, ODNI official Brian Prioletti defended the system that has delivered a security clearance to roughly one in every 61 Americans.

“Are we making sure security clearance are going to those who absolutely need that access to that information to be able to do their jobs?” Tester asked.

“Yes, sir. I believe they are — because they are continually reviewed and revisited to determine, to ensure that they are meeting today’s environment in which we work,” said Prioletti, an assistant director in ODNI’s Office of the National Counterintelligence Executive.

However, near the end of the hearing, Prioletti spoke up to acknowledge that the roster of those with clearances might be getting a little overgrown.

“We’re very sensitive to what you say about that number…. 5 million of anything is a lot,” he said, later mentioning Clapper’s directive triggering the government-wide review.

Earlier in the session, a GAO official said her organization recommended to ODNI more than a year ago that agencies be required to conduct reviews of who has access to classified information on a periodic basis.

“We still believe this needs to be done,” GAO’s Brenda Farrell said

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22 minutes ago, EMAWesome said:

I love how Brennan goes on Twitter to pronounce how his freedom of speech is being restricted.  That is like making a speech at a Planned Parenthood office about how your rights to an abortion are being restricted.  Also where was Brennon's outrage about the freedom of speech being restricted when the Obama administration ordered a government wide reassessment of security clearances in 2013?

https://www.politico.com/story/2013/11/government-security-clearance-list-100195

 

 

As dumb of a but Obama as you wil ever see folks. We should all be honored to witness it. 

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29 minutes ago, EMAWesome said:

I love how Brennan goes on Twitter to pronounce how his freedom of speech is being restricted.  That is like making a speech at a Planned Parenthood office about how your rights to an abortion are being restricted.  Also where was Brennon's outrage about the freedom of speech being restricted when the Obama administration ordered a government wide reassessment of security clearances in 2013?

https://www.politico.com/story/2013/11/government-security-clearance-list-100195

 

 

I think you might be dumber than onboard, if such a thing is even possible

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