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these people are the worst.  Kamira Trent ain't having it fam.

 

woman was arrested

The absolute cluelessness is what blows me away.  Texas, NM, AZ, CA.....all were Spanish and Mexican territory for a LONG-ass time.  Hell, I just spent a chunk of time on the border (Texas side).  Spanish and English were ubiquitous and heard everywhere (kind of like you'll hear French and German in the same places in Alsace).  Because the brown folks were here, are here, and will continue to be here. And WTF is this bitching about speaking Spanish in Texas, for example.  Y'all DO know that Spanish was the FIRST European language spoken in the US, right?  And it was the dominant European language spoken in the southwest for centuries.  What, are we supposed to "linguistically cleanse" spanish from our borders?  Should France ban German from being spoken in Alsace?

Fucking ignorant racist fuckheads, every one of 'em.

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8 minutes ago, Longhorn94 said:

youre out of your goddamn mind! Teddy sounds AWESOME!

Yeah, that speech could easily be the democrats campaign speech today.

 

The great fundamental issue now before our people can be stated briefly. It is, "Are the American people fit to govern themselves, to rule themselves, to control themselves?" I believe they are; my opponents do not. I believe in the right of the people to rule. I believe that the majority of the plain people of the United States will, day in and day out, make fewer mistakes in governing themselves than any smaller class or body of men, no matter what their training, will make in trying to govern them. I believe, again, that the American people are, as a whole, capable of self-control, and of learning by their mistakes. Our opponents pay lip-loyalty to this doctrine, but they show their real beliefs by the way in which they champion every device to make the nominal rule of the people a sham. I am not leading this fight as a matter of aesthetic pleasure. I am leading because somebody must lead, or else the fight would not be made at all. I prefer to work with moderate, with rational-conservatives, provided only that they do in good faith strive forward towards the light. But when they halt and turn their backs to the light, and sit with the scorners on the seats of reaction, then I must part company with them. We the people cannot turn back. Our aim must be steady, wise progress.

It would be well if all people would study the history of a sister republic. All the woes of France for a century and a quarter have been due to the folly of her people in splitting into two camps of unreasonable conservatism and unreasonable radicalism. Had pre- Revolutionary France listened to men like Turgot, and backed them up, all would have gone well. But the beneficiaries of privilege, the Bourbon reactionaries, the shortsighted ultra-conservatives, turned down Turgot and then found that instead of him they had obtained Robespierre. They gained twenty years freedom from all restraint and reform, at the cost of the whirlwind of the "red terror" and in their turn the unbridled extremists of the terror induced a blind reaction. And so, with convulsion and oscillation from one extreme to another, with alternations of violent radicalism and violent Bourbonism, the French people went through misery toward a shattered goal. May we profit from the experiences of our fellow republicans across the water, and go forward steadily, avoiding all wild extremes; and may our ultra-conservatives remember that the rule of the Bourbons brought on the Revolution, and may our would-be revolutionaries remember that no Bourbon was ever such a dangerous enemy of the people and their freedom as the professed friend of both, Robespierre.

There is no danger of a revolution in this country; but there is grave discontent and unrest, and in order to remove them there is need of all the wisdom and probity and deep- seated faith in and purpose to uplift humanity we have at our command. Friends, our task as Americans is to strive for social and industrial justice, achieved through the genuine rule of the people. This is our end, our purpose. The methods for achieving the end are merely expedients, to be finally accepted or rejected, according as actual experience shows that they work well or ill. But in our hearts we must have this lofty purpose, and strive for it in all earnestness and sincerity, or our work will come to nothing. In order to succeed we need leaders of inspired idealism, leaders to whom are granted great visions, who dream greatly and strive to make their dreams come true; who can kindle the people with the fire from their own burning souls. The leader for the time being, whoever he may be, is but an instrument, to be used until broken and then to be cast aside; and if he is worth his salt he will care no more when he is broken than a soldier cares where he is sent, where his life is proffered in order that the victory may be won. In the long fight for righteousness the watchword for all of us is "spend and be spent."

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19 minutes ago, Post Oak said:

 

these people are the worst.  Kamira Trent ain't having it fam.

 

woman was arrested

This reminds me of a black comedian talking about how a white lady came to his rescue one time when he was being unfairly treated. He said something like never underestimate the power of a middle class white woman filled with righteous indignation.

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

But the beneficiaries of privilege, the Bourbon reactionaries, the shortsighted ultra-conservatives, turned down Turgot and then found that instead of him they had obtained Robespierre.

Dude.  98% of Americans today would have ZERO idea what in the hell Teddy was talking about.  They'd recognize "bourbon" cuz they sometimes drink it, and the rest would sound like fag talk.

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Dude.  98% of Americans today would have ZERO idea what in the hell Teddy was talking about.  They'd recognize "bourbon" cuz they sometimes drink it, and the rest would sound like fag talk.

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Yet they somehow know all about George Soros’s history with the Nazis.  How the fuck did that happen? 

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Yet.

We've had two so far.

This.

It's like a fault line.  Everything is utterly calm and peaceful until the stress levels reach a certain point, and then, 8.0 and all our shit breaks.

Waving off the danger of violence by saying "it's not happening NOW" is as logically unsupportable as a builder in San Francisco rejecting earthquake building codes because "there's no earthquake happening NOW."  The San Andreas, and our political system, are building up incredible stresses.  The fault line WILL slip.  The difference here is that the stresses of our political system are entirely self-inflicted, and were utterly avoidable.  But here we are, in a system that now functions as one of complete opposition -- there is only the victorious side, and the subjugated side (who must be punished, and their tears must be enjoyed).  There's no way that atmosphere doesn't end in violence.  Whether it's in this iteration, the next, or the next, (GOP rule, Dem rule, or the next GOP rule), the outcome is pre-ordained.

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Do you think the Soros Nazi narrative would be something normal people would want to seek out?  I don’t. 

It’s fed to them.  There is no seeking. 

 

Yes, they seek it out by repeatedly returning to the same watering holes for information. Its not as if they are seeking specific information, just any information that supports their view. It's the reason Sean Hannity can successfully spin crazy shit. People just want information served in a way that supports their view not contradicts it.

 

 

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54 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Yeah, that speech could easily be the democrats campaign speech today.

 

The great fundamental issue now before our people can be stated briefly. It is, "Are the American people fit to govern themselves, to rule themselves, to control themselves?" I believe they are; my opponents do not. I believe in the right of the people to rule. I believe that the majority of the plain people of the United States will, day in and day out, make fewer mistakes in governing themselves than any smaller class or body of men, no matter what their training, will make in trying to govern them. I believe, again, that the American people are, as a whole, capable of self-control, and of learning by their mistakes. Our opponents pay lip-loyalty to this doctrine, but they show their real beliefs by the way in which they champion every device to make the nominal rule of the people a sham. I am not leading this fight as a matter of aesthetic pleasure. I am leading because somebody must lead, or else the fight would not be made at all. I prefer to work with moderate, with rational-conservatives, provided only that they do in good faith strive forward towards the light. But when they halt and turn their backs to the light, and sit with the scorners on the seats of reaction, then I must part company with them. We the people cannot turn back. Our aim must be steady, wise progress.

It would be well if all people would study the history of a sister republic. All the woes of France for a century and a quarter have been due to the folly of her people in splitting into two camps of unreasonable conservatism and unreasonable radicalism. Had pre- Revolutionary France listened to men like Turgot, and backed them up, all would have gone well. But the beneficiaries of privilege, the Bourbon reactionaries, the shortsighted ultra-conservatives, turned down Turgot and then found that instead of him they had obtained Robespierre. They gained twenty years freedom from all restraint and reform, at the cost of the whirlwind of the "red terror" and in their turn the unbridled extremists of the terror induced a blind reaction. And so, with convulsion and oscillation from one extreme to another, with alternations of violent radicalism and violent Bourbonism, the French people went through misery toward a shattered goal. May we profit from the experiences of our fellow republicans across the water, and go forward steadily, avoiding all wild extremes; and may our ultra-conservatives remember that the rule of the Bourbons brought on the Revolution, and may our would-be revolutionaries remember that no Bourbon was ever such a dangerous enemy of the people and their freedom as the professed friend of both, Robespierre.

There is no danger of a revolution in this country; but there is grave discontent and unrest, and in order to remove them there is need of all the wisdom and probity and deep- seated faith in and purpose to uplift humanity we have at our command. Friends, our task as Americans is to strive for social and industrial justice, achieved through the genuine rule of the people. This is our end, our purpose. The methods for achieving the end are merely expedients, to be finally accepted or rejected, according as actual experience shows that they work well or ill. But in our hearts we must have this lofty purpose, and strive for it in all earnestness and sincerity, or our work will come to nothing. In order to succeed we need leaders of inspired idealism, leaders to whom are granted great visions, who dream greatly and strive to make their dreams come true; who can kindle the people with the fire from their own burning souls. The leader for the time being, whoever he may be, is but an instrument, to be used until broken and then to be cast aside; and if he is worth his salt he will care no more when he is broken than a soldier cares where he is sent, where his life is proffered in order that the victory may be won. In the long fight for righteousness the watchword for all of us is "spend and be spent."

Gee I wonder... what man represents these ideals today? Who would Roosevelt would vote for today?

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45 minutes ago, Bruh Man said:

Let's not judge her before we find out how much economic anxiety she's been suffering.

You jest, but it is a real thing.

Those that have made some poor life decisions want to cast blame and feel better about themselves. 

It is not a wholly unsympathetic position. Because a lot of "these people" actually did not make any really poor life decisions like drugs, credit card debt, etc.  They are victims, for lack of a better word, of a changing world.  They simply failed to adapt or recognized that they needed to adapt. They failed to recognize or be aware that they were the beneficiary of a lot of dubious stuff when it comes to other "races".  Rather then let go and admit their responsibly or at least assign responsibility to the offending parties they pick on someone who can be defeated and who is vulnerable. I guess it is why reality tv is so popular.

Most fail to see how much work civic responsibility takes and to take action upon the knowledge gained from rigorous examination of the facts.

In this case we are looking at one end of the spectrum, which in most cases must be tolerated or put up with just as a matter of course. However, the dangerous thing is any empowerment of these thoughts that gain traction to become a larger movement...which they have.

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27 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

I wonder if Republicans realize the GOP is the Idiocracy party?

George Will referred to today's GOP as an invasion of vulgarians. I imagine there are some that know this but really have no influence anymore.

 

 

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Well they did put Trump in power so I guess props to them for that.

In the meantime, they exposed their entire operation. Would have been much better for them with a close trump loss, constantly feeding a trump fueled twitter resistance to Hilllary,  creating a surge of their favorite useful idiot party which is currently known as the republican party, so negs to them for that. 

If they hadn’t been so damn successful in 2016 they would be looking at a Russian controlled party with a majority in the house in 2018, a filibuster proof republican majority in the senate given the 2018 state of senate races, and enough republican state houses and governorships to call a constitutional convention that would rewrite the constitution in whatever way they saw fit. The Koch brothers would be creaming in their pants right about now.

So in a sense we can all feel pretty grateful that Trump won. The alternative would have been far far worse. 

It’s funny how things work out sometimes. 

 

 

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So in a sense we can all feel pretty grateful that Trump won. The alternative would have been far far worse. 

Been my feeling all along.  The Kremlin didn’t expect Trump to win.  In fact, shortly before the election they shifted their influence operations towards undermining the upcoming Clinton administration and according to the Dossier, many higher ups in the Kremlin were concerned Putin was overplaying his hand.  They felt their operation was overexposed and vulnerable to compromise.

With Trump winning and Mueller blowing the lid on the GRU, it gave us an opportunity figure out how to better defend ourselves.  The Kremlin influence operation works best when no one knows about it.  

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The Russians may not take a dump without a plan but that doesn’t mean they’ve really considered and figured out where the shit will ultimately end up. 

Much like Trump, the Russians are all tactics and no long term strategy.  They relentlessly exploit divisions and sow discord but they do a poor job of factoring in unintended consequences.  This is most likely due to them working from a weak position.  They play the game like a drunk with a shitty hand. Lots of deception, bluffing, and duplicity. 

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7 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Much like Trump, the Russians are all tactics and no long term strategy.  They relentlessly exploit divisions and sow discord but they do a poor job of factoring in unintended consequences.  This is most likely due to them working from a weak position.  They play the game like a drunk with a shitty hand. Lots of deception, bluffing, and duplicity. 

Exactly. But its not just them working from a weak position, its based on their entire history of short term consequences meaning much more than the long term because for them there is no long term at all without a short term victory. It’s something we used to have an advantage over them on, based on what our founders created. I fear that trump and trumpkins and the republican traitors may be taking that away from us though. 

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