Donald Trump 2018

[F250 29178]

5 hours ago, kevwun said:

Only this White House would be stupid enough to use a doctored video of an event that there are multiple other recordings of that they have no control over.

We are lucky that the Trump administration is made up of the Apple Dumpling Gang. Trump's repetitive attacks on the press is concerning but his attacks are fairly sophomoric. Let's not forget the Obama administration was tracking journalists, seizing their records, prosecuting and actually put a reporter in jail. While Obama was a lot more trust worthy than Trump he was a bigger threat to the press than Trump.

I assume Trump is just too incompetent to actually use the power of the executive branch to actually target the press in the same manner the Obama administration did. For that I am thankful.

 

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

6 minutes ago, F250 said:

While Obama was a lot more trust worthy than Trump he was a bigger threat to the press than Trump.

You obviously don’t know many journalists 

Edited November 8, 2018 by Hugo Stiglitz

[F250 29178]

1 minute ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

You obviously don’t know many journalists 

You obviously can't get passed your bias against Trump if you think the his verbal abuse is worse than using federal agents to track journalists.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

1 minute ago, F250 said:

You obviously can't get passed your bias against Trump if you think the his verbal abuse is worse than using federal agents to track journalists.

 

To elaborate on this, Obama did some shitty shit but he didn’t openly turn the population against journalists and destroy objective truth.  That’s what Trump is doing.  

 

If you think what Obama did was worse I don’t know what to tell you.

[seven 1368]

[Pam Cummings 9825]

Proven doctored video? Fuck this, impeach.

[maninblack 7975]

[tantric superman 4668]

4 hours ago, HenryJames said:

Can we get an update on the caravan?

We are halting the bombardment, and our boys are starting to advance on the caravan, who are amassed at the Rio Grande, just over that ridge.

 

 

Edited November 8, 2018 by tantric superman

[MissingInAction 25485]

32 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

To elaborate on this, Obama did some shitty shit but he didn’t openly turn the population against journalists and destroy objective truth.  That’s what Trump is doing.  

 

If you think what Obama did was worse I don’t know what to tell you.

Trump is just following the Despot for dummies handbook.

[Fozzz 152]

 

 

[SmokeyTheBear 5569]

2 hours ago, Zavala said:

They broke the door? Also threats of violence?

If right wingers were outside of Don Lemons house chanting "we know where you sleep" how do you suspect that would be portrayed in the media?

http://www.cbs8.com/story/39444147/mob-chants-outside-foxs-tucker-carlsons-home-breaks-door

 

 

2 hours ago, GRHorn said:

Busted door. Wife cowering in pantry. Just a friendly protest. 

imgur

[F250 29178]

9 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

To elaborate on this, Obama did some shitty shit but he didn’t openly turn the population against journalists and destroy objective truth.  That’s what Trump is doing.  

 

If you think what Obama did was worse I don’t know what to tell you.

The Obama administration targeted journalists with the power of federal law enforcement on the down low while pretending outwardly nothing was happening. His administration had secretly targeted 20 different AP reporters, named James Rosen of Fox News an unindicted co-conspirator under the Espionage Act, James Risen of the NYT had a federal case brought against him, various journalists had phone records tracked and their records seized and this is just the stuff I remember of off the top of my head.

Here is a nice reminder of what was going on during the Obama administration.

 

"Fourteen Pulitzer Prize-winning journalists issued individual statements – released on August 11, 2014 – supporting fellow Pulitzer Prize winner James Risen."

https://rootsaction.org/statements-for-risen

 

https://www.cjr.org/criticism/barack_obamas_press_freedom_legacy.php

“This is the most closed, control freak administration I’ve ever covered,” said Sanger in a 2013 CPJ report, “The Obama Administration and the Press.” The report’s author, former Washington Post Executive Editor Leonard Downie, Jr., declared, “The administration’s war on leaks and other efforts to control information are the most aggressive I’ve seen since the Nixon administration.” As journalists often note, the Obama administration has prosecuted more leakers under the 1917 Espionage Act than all former presidents combined.

 

[SubliminalHorn 6995]

6 minutes ago, maninblack said:

Thanks for the update 9 hours later

[Pancho 46066]

9 minutes ago, maninblack said:

Did Beto win? 

[jimmyjazz 46984]

She fell AGAIN?

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[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

Just now, F250 said:

The Obama administration targeted journalists with the power of federal law enforcement on the down low while pretending outwardly nothing was happening. His administration had secretly targeted 20 different AP reporters, named James Rosen of Fox News an unindicted co-conspirator under the Espionage Act, James Risen of the NYT had a federal case brought against him, various journalists had phone records tracked and their records seized and this is just the stuff I remember of off the top of my head.

Here is a nice reminder of what was going on during the Obama administration.

 

"Fourteen Pulitzer Prize-winning journalists issued individual statements – released on August 11, 2014 – supporting fellow Pulitzer Prize winner James Risen."

https://rootsaction.org/statements-for-risen

 

https://www.cjr.org/criticism/barack_obamas_press_freedom_legacy.php

“This is the most closed, control freak administration I’ve ever covered,” said Sanger in a 2013 CPJ report, “The Obama Administration and the Press.” The report’s author, former Washington Post Executive Editor Leonard Downie, Jr., declared, “The administration’s war on leaks and other efforts to control information are the most aggressive I’ve seen since the Nixon administration.” As journalists often note, the Obama administration has prosecuted more leakers under the 1917 Espionage Act than all former presidents combined.

 

I’m not excusing Obama’s abuse of power.  It was bad, wrong, horrible.

However, we have no idea what Trump has been doing behind the scenes but every indication he’s abusing his power because he’s doing it out in the open.  He’s created his very own state propaganda channel by proxy which he openly promotes while bashing their competitors.  He is doing that as the head of state.  

But let’s reflect back on Obama’s malfeasance and say it’s worse than what Trump is doing because I don’t know why.

[F250 29178]

5 minutes ago, MissingInAction said:

Trump is just following the Despot for dummies handbook.

This is my point. Obama who was more trustworthy than Trump did some seriously nefarious shit to the press. We are just lucky Trump is too lazy and dumb to use the same tactics. With that said, he might figure out this tactic eventually.

 

[David Dennison 19441]

1 minute ago, F250 said:

This is my point. Obama who was more trustworthy than Trump did some seriously nefarious shit to the press. We are just lucky Trump is too lazy and dumb to use the same tactics. With that said, he might figure out this tactic eventually.

 

To be fair, Barack Obama is literally one million times smarter than Donald Trump.

[F250 29178]

1 minute ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

I’m not excusing Obama’s abuse of power.  It was bad, wrong, horrible.

However, we have no idea what Trump has been doing behind the scenes but every indication he’s abusing his power because he’s doing it out in the open.  He’s created his very own state propaganda channel by proxy which he openly promotes while bashing their competitors.  He is doing that as the head of state.  

But let’s reflect back on Obama’s malfeasance and say it’s worse than what Trump is doing because I don’t know why.

Don't be such a knee jerk reacting dimwit. I explained why in my first post.

[Fozzz 152]

1 minute ago, F250 said:

This is my point. Obama who was more trustworthy than Trump did some seriously nefarious shit to the press. We are just lucky Trump is too lazy and dumb to use the same tactics. With that said, he might figure out this tactic eventually.

 

What the Obama admin did to Risen was unconscionable.  

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

2 minutes ago, F250 said:

Don't be such a knee jerk reacting dimwit. I explained why in my first post.

Yes, you thinking Trump is too incompetent to run surveillance and target journalists was a great take.

[David Dennison 19441]

1 minute ago, Fozzz said:

What the Obama admin did to Risen was unconscionable.  

Um, the Supreme Court backed the administration.

So there's that.

[Fozzz 152]

lol so what?  The Espionage Act is a fucking disgrace and should be taken off the books.  Using it to bully journalists is shameful.  

[GHOSTUSER 361]

Oh no! not shouting! way worse than trying to assassinate former presidents, right?! 

I'm glad Fox News is starting to reap what they sowed. The originators of fake news have been whipping 'conservatives' into a frenzy for decades. When Tucker Carlson is seen as a moderate (levelheaded) conservative voice compared to the rest then you know you're a propaganda machine. I'm not surprised people are tired of their shit and want them to stop it. I don't condone violence, but shouting at them seems pretty tame.

So having Tucker’s wife cowering in fear in the pantry along with his 4 kids is ok in your book because you don’t like what he says on TV. Idiocy. You want to deprive us of our rights to express our political opinions. Fuck freedom of expression because we are conservative. Idiots.

[bad_teammate 13481]

7 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Um, the Supreme Court backed the administration.

So there's that.

Fuck the Supreme Court.

[Degenerate Gardner 4135]

20 minutes ago, Pancho Negro said:

Did Beto win? 

...and Francisco Franco is still dead.

[4th&Five 41905]

There’s a glitch on this site that if someone on your ignore list posts twice in a row the second post shows up. 

Edited November 9, 2018 by 4th&Five

[jimmyjazz 46984]

1 hour ago, 4th&Five said:

There’s a glitch on this site that if someone on your ignore list posts twice in a row the second post shows up. 

Put them on your ignore list twice.  

[Tom 2960]

1 hour ago, Iconoclast Texan said:

So having Tucker’s wife cowering in fear in the pantry along with his 4 kids is ok in your book because you don’t like what he says on TV. Idiocy. You want to deprive us of our rights to express our political opinions. Fuck freedom of expression because we are conservative. Idiots.

 

Well now you've just gone and made me depressed with the knowledge that Tucker produced 4 other people.  

[F250 29178]

2 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Yes, you thinking Trump is too incompetent to run surveillance and target journalists was a great take.

Well it sure as hell isn't constitutional restraint holding him back.

[WhatTheBuck 28904]

3 hours ago, F250 said:

Let's not forget the Obama administration was tracking journalists, seizing their records, prosecuting and actually put a reporter in jail. While Obama was a lot more trust worthy than Trump he was a bigger threat to the press than Trump.

I assume Trump is just too incompetent to actually use the power of the executive branch to actually target the press in the same manner the Obama administration did. For that I am thankful.

What reporter did Obama put in jail?

[tantric superman 4668]

Don't get me started on Obama, or Clinton, or LBJ. 

[Agent47 157]

2 hours ago, Iconoclast Texan said:

So having Tucker’s wife cowering in fear in the pantry along with his 4 kids is ok in your book because you don’t like what he says on TV. Idiocy. You want to deprive us of our rights to express our political opinions. Fuck freedom of expression because we are conservative. Idiots.

The Carlsons are cowering in fear in their pantry! Now the conservatives get it. Trump has whipped all this shit up. CNN SUCKS CNN SUCKS at every rally. 

When it touches you, you're outraged.

Where were you fuckers before when the pipe bombs were flying through the mail and when body slamming was cheered.

Braying about false flags and trading high fives.

You fucking hypocritical bitches.

[Agent47 157]

Carlson should have armed guards, like the synogues, and churches, and country bars, and college campuses, and elementary schools etc.

This was Trump's advice. Follow your leadership and shut up, and sing.

[Bama Chick 28596]

[Gengs1 2583]

Media keeps on falling for it 

[Cajun 11771]

4 hours ago, bolverk said:

Agreed. Shame on anyone for relying on cable TV as their primary source of information. We should all cut the cable. Fox, CNN, MSNBC, and the like are poisoning our political system. This country needs a gotdam 12-step program. 

Spot. The. Fuck. On.

None deserve a defense of any kind.

Cooper, Wolf, Maddow, Ruhle, Scarboro, Tapper, etc are just the other side of the shitty coin from Hannity, Tucker, Regan, Ingram, Dobbs, etc.

Fuck 'em and fuck 'em good!

[David Dennison 19441]

4 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

 

Then the dummy fired Jeff Sessions and no one cares anymore.

 

[Gil Bang 26177]

2 minutes ago, Cajun said:

Spot. The. Fuck. On.

None deserve a defense of any kind.

Cooper, Wolf, Maddow, Ruhle, Scarboro, Tapper, etc are just the other side of the shitty coin from Hannity, Tucker, Regan, Ingram, Dobbs, etc.

Fuck 'em and fuck 'em good!

fuck you.  How many on the left ever appeared at a POTUS rally onstage?

[Agent47 157]

What a scumbag.

Well, Tucker Carlson deserves it then because Trump provokes these kinds of histrionic things as political distractions. Caravan et al. Who woulda guessed it, huh.

He said the weekend of hate shootings and pipe bomb "stuff" hurt his momentum, and he meant it. And that's ALL HE CARES ABOUT.

Tucker Carlson is expendable. So are the dead Jews. So are all the Trump voters. So is everyone he's throwing under the bus. So is the Constitution. So is America. 

That man should not be president. He's a goddamn disgraceful human being. 

I cannot imagine having voted for him. How freaking embarrassing it must be.

 

Edited November 9, 2018 by Agent47

[High Plains Drifter 11162]

2 hours ago, Iconoclast Texan said:

So having Tucker’s wife cowering in fear in the pantry along with his 4 kids is ok in your book because you don’t like what he says on TV. Idiocy. You want to deprive us of our rights to express our political opinions. Fuck freedom of expression because we are conservative. Idiots.

Fucker Carlson can sleep in the bed he and his ilk made. Fuck him and fuck you.

[TornACL 7792]

3 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

To elaborate on this, Obama did some shitty shit but he didn’t openly turn the population against journalists and destroy objective truth.  That’s what Trump is doing.  

 

If you think what Obama did was worse I don’t know what to tell you.

One time my neighbor didn't mow his grass for a week. Then later I burned all the houses in the neighborhood down and all these hypocrites got mad and suddenly started caring about everyone's houses. 

They didn't say anything about my neighbor's grass, so they're all hypocrites with an agenda against me, obviously. 

[GHOSTUSER 361]

4 minutes ago, High Plains Drifter said:

Fucker Carlson can sleep in the bed he and his ilk made. Fuck him and fuck you.

Tucker is a millionaire, he gets people like me to buy his book and I in turn get to enjoy his show and commentary while inspiring and empowering millions of fellow conservatives. His harassers are losers and are getting called out by normal liberals and not the loons here. 

[Pancho 46066]

1 minute ago, Iconoclast Texan said:

Tucker is a millionaire, he gets people like me to buy his book and I in turn get to enjoy his show and commentary while inspiring and empowering millions of fellow conservatives. His harassers are losers and are getting called out by normal liberals and not the loons here. 

Were you calling out those harassers and those threatening to assassinate Obama?

 

No.  I wonder why?

[David Dennison 19441]

Just now, Iconoclast Texan said:

Tucker is a millionaire, he gets people like me to buy his book and I in turn get to enjoy his show and commentary while inspiring and empowering millions of fellow conservatives. His harassers are losers and are getting called out by normal liberals and not the loons here. 

So his harassers and audience have something in common. Cool.

[Cajun 11771]

11 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

fuck you.  How many on the left ever appeared at a POTUS rally onstage?

Ok, Hannity wins the POS award out of all of them.

Congrats, your "news" cloaked activists heroes are a little less shitty than Sean Hannity.

What time's the parade?

[GHOSTUSER 361]

1 minute ago, Pancho Negro said:

Were you calling out those harassers and those threatening to assassinate Obama?

 

No.  I wonder why?

Was I defending the guy or rationalizing or justifying his behavior? Was I like those saying Tucker deserves what he is getting. The answer is no. I know you have been itching to call me a racist again.

Edited November 9, 2018 by Iconoclast Texan

[Pancho 46066]

Just now, Iconoclast Texan said:

Was I defending the guy or rationalizing or justifying his behavior? Was I? The answer is no. I know you have been itching to call me a racist again.

[GHOSTUSER 361]

Just now, Pancho Negro said:

Use the search feature big guy.

[Cajun 11771]

"If You Ignore the News, America Actually Seems Pretty Nice"

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2018-10-26/road-trip-america-takes-us-beyond-news-media-politics?fbclid=IwAR2SCCzklNpBWrdyloBp9heRdiKmHQo_cGO5E34X5_mLQNPxVMWYfIX7XJY