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6 minutes ago, triplehorn said:

wait, what ?!

 

jesus fucking christ. there is no long term strategy here. we are at he whims of a man-child. and congress is very concerned. very, very troubled, but will stand by and do nothing but abdicate their responsibility to rein in this fucking tyrant.

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German magazine Wirtschaftswoche reported on Thursday that Trump had told French President Emmanuel Macron he wanted to stick to his trade policy long enough that Mercedes-Benz cars were no longer cruising through New York. That share prices of BMW (BMWG.DE), Daimler (DAIGn.DE) and Volkswagen (VOWG_p.DE).

The Trump administration launched a national security investigation last week into car and truck imports, using the same 1962 law that he has applied to curb incoming steel and aluminum.

from my reuters link above

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1 minute ago, hayden_horn said:

from my reuters link above

“Stick to pokicy until you don’t see any more Mercedes” is very different than “impose total ban on luxury German cars”.  One is a hyperbolic statement about the effect after decades of [something, probably some dumb tariff] resulting in US cars bought at the expense of foreign cars and one is a specific ban on a particular product.  

That headline is totally click baity

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https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/07/heres-how-congress-can-stop-trumps-tariffs--if-lawmakers-want-to.html

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To implement new taxes on imports of steel and aluminum, President Donald Trump is relying on a law last applied in the early 1990s.

The law – specifically, Section 232 of the Trade Expansion Act of 1962 – allows the president to bypass Congress and impose tariffs by executive order.

In this case, Trump made his determination on Thursday, announcing with little prior indication at a White House meeting that his administration would impose tariffs of 25 percent on steel and 10 percent on aluminum.

The legal justification for the tariffs came in the form of a report from Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross, which outlined the national security threats from the imports in question and provided a framework for retaliation.

Ross' report originally suggested a 24 percent tariff on steel; Trump nudged it up to 25 percent.

"Your guess is as good as mine" for why Trump increased the number, said Edward Alden, a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, a nonpartisan think tank. "Twenty-five sounds better, probably."

The Commerce Department did not immediately respond to CNBC's request for comment.

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President George W. Bush slapped tariffs on steel imports in 2002. But his were so-called safeguard tariffs, which require a lengthier legislative process involving the input of the International Trade Commission. He ended those tariffs in 2003.

In those days, Republicans were generally unified in their preference for free trade. And as recently as 2013, Republicans appeared to join Democrats in strongly supporting U.S. participation in a more global economy: A Pew Research poll from that year found that 74 percent of Republicans agreed that growing trade and business ties are good for the U.S.

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But Trump's winning presidential campaign, during which he regularly attacked free trade agreements as "unfair," quickly buckled that consensus. By March 2016, more than two-thirds of Trump supporters said free trade agreements have been a bad thing for the U.S., according to a Pew Research poll at the time.

Republican congressional leadership, however, has been less enthusiastic to follow Trump on trade.

House Speaker Paul Ryan this week said he was "extremely worried" about the consequences of a potential trade war. And Mitch McConnell, the Senate majority leader, said he has "genuine concerns" about the policy.

lulz at that last line. article is from march, by the way, so it's dated. 

and we know congress won't do anything. because they are cowards.

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4 minutes ago, SuingToGetAMessageBoard? said:

“Stick to pokicy until you don’t see any more Mercedes” is very different than “impose total ban on luxury German cars”.  One is a hyperbolic statement about the effect after decades of [something, probably some dumb tariff] resulting in US cars bought at the expense of foreign cars and one is a specific ban on a particular product.  

That headline is totally click baity

well, the second line is more implicating, imo. that he's looking into car and truck imports would indicate an interest in a tariff.

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3 minutes ago, hayden_horn said:

well, the second line is more implicating, imo. that he's looking into car and truck imports would indicate an interest in a tariff.

Maybe so.  My money is on no but DOTARD could DOTARD.  

 

Still though, tariff and ban aren’t the same thing.  The Hill headline writer, or whoever first said total ban, was going for maximum clicks over accuracy because nothing seems to indicate that. 

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On the tariffs and Mercedes issues, maybe he is actually using private sector tactics to improve whatever he imagines the deal is between the US and the targeted countries. He looks for some kind of concession and then feels victorious if he gains one no matter how small.

Maybe Mercedes offers to do something to create (more) jobs in America. Even though foreign car makers have been making cars here for years, Trump will claim a huge victory the likes of which the world has never seen. His fans will eat it up. Trump won't understand why the people who know the world better than he does don't join in and make the praise for him universal. Ebil media.

He neither understands nor cares that international relations are not like domestic business deals. He has no clue that getting a concession for a hamburger chain in N. Korea is actually not a plus for the reputation of the US internationally nor does it make us look like tough bargainers. HE GOT HIS HAMBURGER!!!!!

Unlike the vendors he regularly cheats and screws in his business dealings, he may have to return to these countries (traditional allies) and ask favors. Nations grant favors at their own discretion not through pressure. Trump doesn't get this. He wants to bully even his friends (and wives, too, evidently).

These things he may actually see as victories for the US, as we all know, are toxic for this country.

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6 minutes ago, SuingToGetAMessageBoard? said:

Maybe so.  My money is on no but DOTARD could DOTARD.  

 

Still though, tariff and ban aren’t the same thing.  The Hill headline writer, or whoever first said total ban, was going for maximum clicks over accuracy because nothing seems to indicate that. 

understood, and point taken. 

now, trump says he's considering commuting the sentence of blagojevich and pardoning martha stewart.

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2 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

He's in Houston meeting with the school shooting victims. 

As if their life wasn't bad enough. 

Dallas has scoreboard on Houston for biggest news story in history.  What would it take for Houston to pull into the lead?

Just asking questions and stuff.

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36 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

But I thought Executive Orders were bad?

they are bad and have been bad for a long time. they get worse as time rolls by. everyone should be mad at every single one regardless of political orientation. i have been and will continue to be. its at the center of breaking down our government structure and may end up causing radical action (and over-reaction) in other parts of our government. 

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12 minutes ago, SuingToGetAMessageBoard? said:

Celebrity pardons = dumb.  Everyone else has to go through the pardon application vetting process.  But if you’ve been on tv? Skip to the head of the line. 

Or if you're someone who can be pardoned to send a "please don't flip on me I've got your back" message to the likes of say a Paul Manafort or Michael Cohen.

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The political part I think is a big deal, but the “he was definitely guilty” part isn’t.  A great many pardons involve the defintely guilty, especially when they show contrition. 


About that contrition
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2 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

It's a lot harder to build than it is to destroy.

Quoted for motherfucking truth.

Trump is a destroyer of norms, of decency, of livelihoods, of all that is good and right.

I hope he gets fucked in his urethra.

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CNN)President Donald Trump told reporters Thursday that he is considering pardoning Martha Stewart and commuting former Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich's sentence.

The President's comments came hours after he pardoned the conservative author and filmmaker Dinesh D'Souza. Last week, Trump also pardoned the deceased boxer Jack Johnson.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/31/politics/martha-stewart-rod-blagojevich-trump-pardons/index.html

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