Donald Trump 2018

[jimmyjazz 45515]

Seriously, Tahoe.  Get out.  Is there a crowdban available now?  This has gone too far.  You're worthless.

[bolverk 29374]

 

 

Trump looked like he was in pain after the handshake. The look on Macron's face is priceless.

 

A little later:

 

 

 

Edited June 9, 2018 by bolverk

[Jack Straw 2953]

^^ Trump: “derp” 

[Tuco 5076]

Did Macron go with a knuckle roll? Shit, Donald may end up giving him Louisiana back.

[Tuco 5076]

The meeting is not diplomacy.  Diplomacy on an issue like this is conducted four levels down, out of public view.  This is show.

 

Who is the show for? What’s its purpose if not diplomatic?

[Bozo_Casanova 26237]

Is that good or bad? You know, you can find Senate subcommittee hearings on topics like that.  Guess how many of, say, 21 Senators on the committee will be there? 

 

If they come at all they give a speech and leave.  On or two are designated to do their turn in the barrel and conduct the meeting.  You will not see 21 Senators in rapt attention.

Anyone want to take bets on attendance this coming Wednesday on "Confronting Sexual Harassment and Other Workplace Misconduct in the Federal Judiciary"?

https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/meetings/confronting-sexual-harassment-and-other-workplace-misconduct-in-the-federal-judiciary

 

 

This is rich, especially after your “bow and apologize diplomacy doesn’t work” bullshit.

 

The Is what weakness and impotence looks like. If you and I were making a deal and and you did that, you’d pay to watch me eat and walk away hungry.

 

[Bozo_Casanova 26237]

 
Who is the show for? What’s its purpose if not diplomatic?

bluff and insult diplomacy

[TahoeHorn 107]

1 minute ago, Tuco said:

 

Who is the show for? What’s its purpose if not diplomatic?

Playing to the home audience.  Much of the G7 is about home politics.  I think you have to hunt high and low to find diplomacy.  

[HenryJames 65872]

18 minutes ago, bolverk said:

 

 

Trump looked like he was in pain after the handshake. The look on Macron's face is priceless.

 

A little later:

 

 

 

[Bozo_Casanova 26237]

Playing to the home audience.  Much of the G7 is about home politics.  I think you have to hunt high and low to find diplomacy.  

you mean the suddenly anti-West, anti-trade, anti-objective-reality, pro-debt, pro-deficit, Pro-Russia GOP home audience, I guess.

 

This is your brand, Tahoe. The silent majority is coming.

[retread 2951]

Yeah, I don't think the other 6 are projecting a go-fuck-yourself message like DOTUS is.

[atomheartbevo 89376]

24 minutes ago, Tuco said:

Did Macron go with a knuckle roll? Shit, Donald may end up giving him Louisiana back.

And a night with Melanie. 

[Horn Dog 9654]

That Canadian fucker stole his wedding ring!

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

1 hour ago, TahoeHorn said:

The meeting is not diplomacy.  Diplomacy on an issue like this is conducted four levels down, out of public view.  This is show.

Wrong on all accounts.  Head of State means head of State.  Diplomacy is a 24/7 ballgame for Presidents.  Appearances matter. 

[Degenerate Gardner 4081]

By now even the smartest Trump supporter has regressed to the mean.  Truth and justice have no intrinsic value. 

Off-topic, but: it must be a strange time in recovery groups which encourage adherents to "do the next right thing".  How do you counsel someone to do the right thing when there is no "right thing", just naked self-interest?  Trump enablers may think that they're playing a clever political game when in reality they are undermining their very sanity.

 

[ChiTownDoc 21092]

2 hours ago, 4th&Five said:

Lieu has been on fire.  He's baiting dotard.  Can't wait for Trump to call for him being deported back to China. 

 

[F250 28664]

1 hour ago, bolverk said:

 

 

Trump looked like he was in pain after the handshake. The look on Macron's face is priceless.

 

A little later:

 

 

 

A high sodium diet probably contributed to those marks. Trump is probably bloated from all the McDonald's stress eating.

[atomheartbevo 89376]

Ted Lieu is a Colonel in the US Air Force Reserve.  I’m wondering when Dotard tries to make that an issue. 

[TahoeHorn 107]

39 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

you mean the suddenly anti-West, anti-trade, anti-objective-reality, pro-debt, pro-deficit, Pro-Russia GOP home audience, I guess.

 

 

No, the "I've got better things to do than listen to some French guy talk about empowering women" audience.  Trust me, I know a bunch of folks who would sleep late instead of go to that breakfast.  I'm sure the US sent somebody to hear the speech, and take notes. 

[Tuco 5076]

Playing to the home audience.  Much of the G7 is about home politics.  I think you have to hunt high and low to find diplomacy.  

Sure. There is nothing like a good G7 summit to really get public enthused.

[Tuco 5076]

And a night with Melanie. 

Like that’s his call anymore.

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

1 hour ago, TahoeHorn said:

Is that good or bad?

You know, you can find Senate subcommittee hearings on topics like that.  Guess how many of, say, 21 Senators on the committee will be there? 

 

If they come at all they give a speech and leave.  On or two are designated to do their turn in the barrel and conduct the meeting.  You will not see 21 Senators in rapt attention.

Anyone want to take bets on attendance this coming Wednesday on "Confronting Sexual Harassment and Other Workplace Misconduct in the Federal Judiciary"?

https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/meetings/confronting-sexual-harassment-and-other-workplace-misconduct-in-the-federal-judiciary

 

you're a fucking idiot. 

[Brisketexan 104480]

Y'all must be on the good stuff this morning because y'all on fire today. One good thing to come out of this embarrassing orange circus of an administration?  It's definitely fine tuned the wit of our citizenry.

 

 

It really is the golden age of satire. This pitcher is so spectacularly bad that he’s turning every hitter into Babe Ruth.

 

 

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  Trump looked like he was in pain after the handshake. The look on Macron's face is priceless.

 

A little later:

 

 

 

 

 

That look says “een every way, I have made zees orange man my leetle beetch.”

 

It’s just fucking sad - watching the #1 country in a group just repeatedly shoot its own dick off.

 

 

Playing to the home audience.  Much of the G7 is about home politics.  I think you have to hunt high and low to find diplomacy.  

 

Keep hunting. You won’t find it anywhere. Because diplomacy is a game of strategy. Trump gleefully brags about having none. It is about being able to trust the other side to keep a promise; Trump cannot be trusted at all in that respect. There is no diplomacy happening anywhere around him. None. No more excuses. You’ve hitched your wagon to a pile of shit.

 

you mean the suddenly anti-West, anti-trade, anti-objective-reality, pro-debt, pro-deficit, Pro-Russia GOP home audience, I guess.  

This is your brand, Tahoe. The silent majority is coming.

 

 

Silent my ass. Fuck the Tahoes of this country. I’m dedicating my ass to defeating them, their candidates, and every thing they stand for, burying all of it, shitting all over it, and then never speaking of them or their bullshittery again.

 

You have their brand 100% correct. All of that is justified in their mind because “suck it, libtards!” Fuck em.

 

 

[Post Oak 20182]

2 hours ago, TahoeHorn said:

Is that good or bad?

You know, you can find Senate subcommittee hearings on topics like that.  Guess how many of, say, 21 Senators on the committee will be there? 

 

If they come at all they give a speech and leave.  On or two are designated to do their turn in the barrel and conduct the meeting.  You will not see 21 Senators in rapt attention.

Anyone want to take bets on attendance this coming Wednesday on "Confronting Sexual Harassment and Other Workplace Misconduct in the Federal Judiciary"?

https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/meetings/confronting-sexual-harassment-and-other-workplace-misconduct-in-the-federal-judiciary

 

This is the exact kind of shit reasonable Americans are up against.  The fucking donut getters.

[Bozo_Casanova 26237]

No, the "I've got better things to do than listen to some French guy talk about empowering women" audience.  Trust me, I know a bunch of folks who would sleep late instead of go to that breakfast.  I'm sure the US sent somebody to hear the speech, and take notes. 

Yeah, exactly my meaning. The people you know. The Roy Moore voters and cowards like Mo Brooks.

[SubliminalHorn 6648]

1 hour ago, TahoeHorn said:

Playing to the home audience.  Much of the G7 is about home politics.  I think you have to hunt high and low to find diplomacy.  

Just shut the fuck up and leave this site. You are a moron whose opinion is completely worthless. Find another team to root for and follow. 

[Jive Turkey 12562]

16 minutes ago, Post Oak said:

This is the exact kind of shit reasonable Americans are up against.  The fucking donut getters.

Found a pic of Tahoe:

Edited June 9, 2018 by Jive Turkey

[Fudge Nuggets 19126]

2 hours ago, TahoeHorn said:

Is that good or bad?

You know, you can find Senate subcommittee hearings on topics like that.  Guess how many of, say, 21 Senators on the committee will be there? 

 

If they come at all they give a speech and leave.  On or two are designated to do their turn in the barrel and conduct the meeting.  You will not see 21 Senators in rapt attention.

Anyone want to take bets on attendance this coming Wednesday on "Confronting Sexual Harassment and Other Workplace Misconduct in the Federal Judiciary"?

https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/meetings/confronting-sexual-harassment-and-other-workplace-misconduct-in-the-federal-judiciary

 

That’s bad.  Skipping out on Rep. Jimmy Ray Bodine from Buggtussle’s speech is one thing.  Showing up a world leader is a different ballgame.

[Jive Turkey 12562]

5 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

That’s bad.  Skipping out on Rep. Jimmy Ray Bodine from Buggtussle’s speech is one thing.  Showing up a world leader is a different ballgame.

Especially if you’re now on record as wanting Russia back in the group because you think it’s important. If this group is so important, show up on time to events. Why would anybody take Trump’s request seriously if he doesn’t take this seriously?

Edited June 9, 2018 by Jive Turkey

[Brisketexan 104480]

Especially if you’re now on record as wanting Russia back in the group because you think it’s important. If this group is so important, show up on time to events. Why would anybody take Trump’s request seriously if he doesn’t take this seriously?

Pssst...secret here...literally NOBODY out there in the world takes Trump seriously. They only take him as an impetuous sucker to be played.

[SameSame 1691]

2 hours ago, bolverk said:

 

 

Trump looked like he was in pain after the handshake. The look on Macron's face is priceless.

 

A little later:

 

 

 

Oh, I really hope he broke a bone in his fucking hand.

[TahoeHorn 107]

Trump is in a pissing match with the Euros.  It's about trade.  I don't agree with his position but I have no trouble understanding what is going on.  I'm not sure why so many here don't get it.  He was insulting Macron the same way the New England Patriots insulted him - don't show to their party.

[Mojo Hand 4580]

That wasn't your argument.  You contended that showing up late to these kinds of things is akin to legislators coming in and out of the room during subcommittee meetings.  I.e., irrelevant, not intentionally insulting.    Now you are arguing that it is intentionally insulting, which is what we've all been arguing from the start of the conversation.  Yet again you show your ass with a moronic pseudo-disinterested take that you abandon only to argue that it was us who didn't understand you from the start. 

[TahoeHorn 107]

3 minutes ago, Mojo Hand said:

That wasn't your argument.  You contended that showing up late to these kinds of things is akin to legislators coming in and out of the room during subcommittee meetings.  I.e., irrelevant, not intentionally insulting.    Now you are arguing that it is intentionally insulting, which is what we've all been arguing from the start of the conversation.  Yet again you show your ass with a moronic pseudo-disinterested take that you abandon only to argue that it was us who didn't understand you from the start. 

I made two arguments, and I stand by both.  You didn't get the first exactly correct.

1. The meeting on empowering women was not important for substance.  It's all about show.  It was not about empowering women.  It was about home politics.

2. Trump insulted Macron by not showing for his speech.  Both guys have a burr up their ass about trade and ego.

I believe both 1 and 2.  They don't conflict.

[DDD Dad 14179]

I made two arguments, and I stand by both.  You didn't get the first exactly correct.
1. The meeting on empowering women was not important for substance.  It's all about show.  It was not about empowering women.  It was about home politics.
2. Trump insulted Macron by not showing for his speech.  Both guys have a burr up their ass about trade and ego.
I believe both 1 and 2.  They don't conflict.

Gaslighting not going away

[Bozo_Casanova 26237]

I made two arguments, and I stand by both.  You didn't get the first exactly correct.
1. The meeting on empowering women was not important for substance.  It's all about show.  It was not about empowering women.  It was about home politics.
2. Trump insulted Macron by not showing for his speech.  Both guys have a burr up their ass about trade and ego.
I believe both 1 and 2.  They don't conflict.

You don’t think that empowering women is substantial or politically important in the US? Bless your heart.

[TahoeHorn 107]

2 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

You don’t think that empowering women is substantial or politically important in the US? Bless your heart.

Are you dense or being cute?  The subject of the relevant sentence was MEETING.

[tchookem 3900]

No, the "I've got better things to do than listen to some French guy talk about empowering women" audience.  Trust me, I know a bunch of folks who would sleep late instead of go to that breakfast.  I'm sure the US sent somebody to hear the speech, and take notes. 

Then he shouldn't have gone at all. Walking in late and making a show of it is a dick move. He thinks it projects power, but it only projects that he's a dick.

 

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[Bozo_Casanova 26237]

Then he shouldn't have gone at all. Walking in late and making a show of it is a dick move. He thinks it projects power, but it only projects that he's a dick.  
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It also projects that he doesn’t have any real leverage.

[TahoeHorn 107]

1 minute ago, tchookem said:

Then he shouldn't have gone at all. Walking in late and making a show of it is a dick move. He thinks it projects power, but it only projects that he's a dick.

 

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Oh, it's a dick move.

 

When do you support dick moves and when do you not?  What about on this board?  When do you approve of insulting posters?  When do you approve of negging posters?

I don't support Trump's move, but like a lot of posters here that can't stand to hear a view they don't like, and have Trump-like ego problems, I understand what they are doing and am not a bit surprised.

[Mojo Hand 4580]

9 minutes ago, TahoeHorn said:

I made two arguments, and I stand by both.  You didn't get the first exactly correct.

1. The meeting on empowering women was not important for substance.  It's all about show.  It was not about empowering women.  It was about home politics.

2. Trump insulted Macron by not showing for his speech.  Both guys have a burr up their ass about trade and ego.

I believe both 1 and 2.  They don't conflict.

First of all, the speeches were from Trudeau and another Canadian, not Macron.  Both of whom started their remarks over after Trump arrived, because there is significance to his late arrival.  Second, I didn't argue that those statements conflicted.  I pointed out that they are different from your initial argument.  And they absolutely are.  If arriving late for a speech is insulting, even at a meaningless event, then your initial comparison to congressional subcommittee members missing each other's speeches is inapposite.

[tchookem 3900]

It also projects that he doesn’t have any real leverage.

True. They did carry on without him.

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[Degenerate Gardner 4081]

1 hour ago, Degenerate Gardner said:

By now even the smartest Trump supporter has regressed to the mean.  Truth and justice have no intrinsic value. 

Off-topic, but: it must be a strange time in recovery groups which encourage adherents to "do the next right thing".  How do you counsel someone to do the right thing when there is no "right thing", just naked self-interest?  Trump enablers may think that they're playing a clever political game when in reality they are undermining their very sanity.

 

Krutov might appreciate someone who expressed this much more articulately:

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"A man who lies to himself, and believes his own lies, becomes unable to recognize truth, either in himself or in anyone else, and he ends up losing respect for himself and for others. When he has no respect for anyone, he can no longer love, and in him, he yields to his impulses, indulges in the lowest form of pleasure, and behaves in the end like an animal in satisfying his vices. And it all comes from lying–to others and to yourself."

Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov

 

[tchookem 3900]

Oh, it's a dick move.
 
When do you support dick moves and when do you not?  What about on this board?  When do you approve of insulting posters?  When do you approve of negging posters?
I don't support Trump's move, but like a lot of posters here that can't stand to hear a view they don't like, and have Trump-like ego problems, I understand what they are doing and am not a bit surprised.

You're equating me posting on a message board with the the POTUS at a conference of world leaders?

To answer your question...
I'm okay with people being dicks on a semi-anonymous message board. Not so much when it's the president meeting with our trade partners and allies.

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[TahoeHorn 107]

4 minutes ago, tchookem said:

You're equating me posting on a message board with the the POTUS at a conference of world leaders?

To answer your question...
I'm okay with people being dicks on a semi-anonymous message board. Not so much when it's the president meeting with our trade partners and allies.

 

I'm not equating.  I was trying to understand your thinking and you answered my question.

I come to see how people think.  My posts are to elicit thoughts not out of a belief that anybody is buying.

Edited June 9, 2018 by TahoeHorn

[TheStoicPaisano 9904]

He was finishing his JO sesh, not sleeping in.

[Bozo_Casanova 26237]

Are you dense or being cute?  The subject of the relevant sentence was MEETING.

I’m being awesome, as usual.
You justify the president’s undignified tardiness (alone among his head of state peers) by saying the women’s empowerment meeting was not important or substantive, but a show for home politics. Thus, I took you to mean that you don’t believe that the President of the United States needs to demonstrate support for that by joining his peers, presumably because you don’t think the subject matter is politically important to Trump’s home audience.

Do I have you wrong? Because I think I have you right, in part because you went on to say that people you know would have skipped the meeting.

[Bozo_Casanova 26237]

Oh, it's a dick move.

 

When do you support dick moves and when do you not?  What about on this board?  When do you approve of insulting posters?  When do you approve of negging posters?

I don't support Trump's move, but like a lot of posters here that can't stand to hear a view they don't like, and have Trump-like ego problems, I understand what they are doing and am not a bit surprised.

I don’t support them when they undermine our national negotiating position or project weakness, while simultaneously undermining good will among partners. This did all three.

[Native Horn 3485]

47 minutes ago, TahoeHorn said:

Trump is in a pissing match with the Euros.  It's about trade.  I don't agree with his position but I have no trouble understanding what is going on.  I'm not sure why so many here don't get it.  He was insulting Macron the same way the New England Patriots insulted him - don't show to their party.

Kiss our collective asses you numbnuts.  Do you get THAT?

[Bozo_Casanova 26237]

Trump is in a pissing match with the Euros.  It's about trade.  I don't agree with his position

Actually this is false, too. You’ve repeatedly indicated your preference for bilateral trade “deals” (inherently a restraint of trade) over multilateral and regional free trade alliances.