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pyrohornIII

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2 hours ago, Pods said:

Spicer wrote a book of lies defending the administration and has sold tens of copies. He could have put Trump on blast and told the truth. He would be a millionaire shortly if he'd chosen to go that route and one with a clean conscience. Fuck him. 

I think Cohen has figured out that strategy too.

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1 hour ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

That is an exceptionally ill fitting jacket, and highlights something really interesting about that whole class of political hacks - campaign operatives, "political strategists", and flacks - many if not most of them are perpetually broke.

They live in expensive markets and are inconsistently employed, and when they do work, they don't make as much as you'd think. Plus their work involves a lot of professional drinking and keeping up with the Joneses, leading to spotty credit histories and mountains of debt. 

Y'all are looking at the jacket?  First thing I noticed was those red rings of death around the eyes.  Looks like he's on death's door unless he just got done with a long bout of crying.

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Daily Beast is reporting that they have the shredded Cohen documents. There's a section with a $62,500 thought to be for Shera Bechard. The government also got access to 1.3 million Cohen docs today. Could be something in there that shows Broidy is not the father. 

https://www.buzzfeed.com/jasonleopold/here-are-the-documents-recovered-from-michael-cohens?utm_term=.meA3jN9X1Y#.sp33wr7RW6

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Cross posting.  

In the belly of the beast (Oklahoma) visiting relatives.

And FNC was on this evening.  Muted, but on.

And Good Ole Tucker was on.

And judging by the main banner hanging over the feed of his guests, they were discussing why Mueller didn’t go after Saudi Arabia after 9/11.

Tomorrow’s Shitter Tweet?

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5 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Very sad to report Alan Dershowitz is being ostracized from his social circles.

 

Hang with shitbags and normal people expect you'll stink. Trumpanzees stink.  Republicans stink.  If Dershowitz doesn't care and sees this as a game where he can garner attention and praise in the sewer, then why cry about people sensitive to stench.  Dershowitz stinks.  He should man up and enjoy his new fecal pals.  

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52 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Cross posting.  

In the belly of the beast (Oklahoma) visiting relatives.

And FNC was on this evening.  Muted, but on.

And Good Ole Tucker was on.

And judging by the main banner hanging over the feed of his guests, they were discussing why Mueller didn’t go after Saudi Arabia after 9/11.

Tomorrow’s Shitter Tweet?

What's the Surly pool look like?  I'll take 3 year old stabbed to death at own birthday party by black immigrant to justify torturing all immigrants.  

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25 minutes ago, GhostOfTomJoad said:

 

 


So be thankful that we're not involved in the war he was leading us towards?

 

 

Wasn't there just something over the weekend about them secretly upgrading their nuclear research facilities?  I guess Fox and Friends didn't give him that briefing.

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Latest tweet:

"Just out that the Obama Administration granted citizenship, during the terrible Iran Deal negotiation, to 2,500 Iranians - including to government officials. How big (and bad) is that?"

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Not content with merely undermining the relatively moderate Iranian President by tearing up Obama's treaty, he is actively amplifying the hardliner's propaganda - which certainly will give it credence in Iran - without actually checking to see if it is true. 

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The Obama administration granted citizenship to 2,500 Iranians, including family members of government officials, while negotiating the Iran nuclear deal, a senior cleric and member of parliament has claimed.

Hojjat al-Islam Mojtaba Zolnour, who is chairman of Iran’s parliamentary nuclear committee and a member of its national security and foreign affairs committee, made the allegations during an interview with the country’s Etemad newspaper, cited by the country’s Fars News agency.

He claimed it was done as a favor to senior Iranian officials linked to President Hassan Rouhani, and he alleged the move sparked a competition among Iranian officials over whose children would benefit from the scheme.

He claimed that the deal was made during negotiations for the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), which was reached in July 2015. President Trump announced in May that the U.S. would withdraw from the agreement.

“When Obama, during the negotiations about the JCPOA, decided to do a favor to these men, he granted citizenship to 2,500 Iranians and some officials started a competition over whose children could be part of these 2,500 Iranians,” he claimed.

“If today these Iranians get deported from America, it will become clear who is complicit and sells the national interest like he is selling candies to America.”

The conservative Zolnour, who is in Ayatollah Ali Khamenei’s inner circle, added: “It should be stated exactly which children of which authorities live in the United States and have received citizenship or residency.”

He estimated that between 30 and 60 were studying in the U.S. while the rest of them were working in the country “against our national interests.”

Though Zolnour did not mention anyone by name during the interview, several children of current and former Iranian officials live in the United States, including Ali Fereydoun, whose father Hossein Fereydoun is the brother of and special aide to Rouhani; and Fatemeh Ardeshir Larijani, whose father Ali Larijani is speaker of parliament.

There is no suggestion either of these people received citizenship in the wake of the Iranian nuclear deal. It’s also unclear if Zolnour meant citizenship or a green card.

In 2015, 13,114 people born in Iran were issued green cards, while 13,298 were issued one in 2016, according to figures from the Department for Homeland Security. In 2015, 10,344 Iranians became naturalized, with a further 9,507 in 2016. 

Asked about the cleric's claim, a State Department spokesperson said: “We’re not going to comment on every statement by an Iranian official.” 

Fox News analyst and former Obama State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf was dubious of the Iranian official’s allegation. “This sounds like totally made up BS,” she said.

The Department of Homeland Security declined to comment. A representative for Obama Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson also could not be reached for comment.

The cleric's claim could, in the U.S., fuel Republican complaints about the concessions made by the Obama administration during that period -- including not just sanctions relief, but the $1.7 billion payment supposedly tied to a legal settlement that coincided with the 2016 release of American prisoners. 

And in Iran, they could fuel resentment toward Tehran's elite. 

“Many ordinary Iranians are surprised and feel betrayed that children of the regime officials live and work in the U.S.,” Saeed Ghasseminejad, a research fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, a Washington-based research institute, told Fox News. “The regime officials chant death to America but send their children to the U.S., away from the hell they have created in Iran over the past four decades.” 

Ghasseminejad said some Iranians have called for their deportation from America: “Iranians don't understand why the U.S. government allows the offspring of the regime officials to live in the U.S., while the U.S. has introduced a travel ban for ordinary Iranian citizens and many Americans are imprisoned in Iran. That is why many Iranians on social media have been urging the U.S. government to deport the children of the regime officials.” 

Iran is one of seven countries included in Trump's travel ban, upheld last week by the Supreme Court.

The country has been beset by a series of economic protests in recent days as the country’s currency, the rial, crashes.

Since the U.S. withdrew from the Iranian nuclear deal on May 8, the value of the rial has plunged to 90,000 against the dollar – double the government rate of 42,000 rials to the dollar.

The protests have hit Iranian commercial areas, including the historic Grand Bazaar in Tehran, the home of conservative merchants who backed the 1979 Islamic Revolution and overthrow of the Shah.

Rouhani has warned the country that it faces an “economic war” with the U.S., but analysts have warned that hard-liners are likely behind the protests seeking to challenge the more moderate president.

Rouhani is under pressure since the nuclear deal agreed with the Obama administration was torn up by Trump. As a result, international firms and oil companies have backed away from billion-dollar deals with the Islamic republic

 

 

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I’m not grasping that Iranian story. So allegedly, Obama granted citizenship/green cards to a group of Iranians as part of JCPOA. The Iranians are upset about this? Or Trump is upset about this? And who wants them deported “because they’re working against the interests of the country?”

 

The article reads like these Iranians who were allegedly granted citizenship are working for US interests, in opposition to Iran’s interests. Am I reading that wrong? And why does Trump want them gone? I’m so confused. That’s either a terribly written article, or I haven’t had nearly enough coffee yet.

 

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6 minutes ago, SquishMitten said:

I’m not grasping that Iranian story. So allegedly, Obama granted citizenship/green cards to a group of Iranians as part of JCPOA. The Iranians are upset about this? Or Trump is upset about this? And who wants them deported “because they’re working against the interests of the country?”

 

The article reads like these Iranians who were allegedly granted citizenship are working for US interests, in opposition to Iran’s interests. Am I reading that wrong? And why does Trump want them gone? I’m so confused. That’s either a terribly written article, or I haven’t had nearly enough coffee yet.

 

Like the US, there are many factions in Iran.  Rhouhani is generally considered a moderate who was looking to push better relations with the West.  The deal that was recently torn up would never have been agreed to under Ahmadinejad, the previous president for two reasons: A. would not have agreed to it and the US would not have wanted the Iranian economy improve under A.. The US tries to walk a balancing act of trying to get Iran to go more moderate, but trying like hell to never appear like they are influencing Iranian politics, which generates a profound backlash due to previous interference.  That's why public calls for regime change are so profoundly stupid.

But, Rhouhani has his enemies in Iran, many of whom didn't like the Obama deal.  In order to attack Rhouhani, they paint him and his allies as puppets of the West.  By claiming the US provided citizenship to many in Rhouhani's inner circle, it makes it look like Rhouhani is compromised. 

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Like the US, there are many factions in Iran.  Rhouhani is generally considered a moderate who was looking to push better relations with the West.  The deal that was recently torn up would never have been agreed to under Ahmadinejad, the previous president for two reasons: A. would not have agreed to it and the US would not have wanted the Iranian economy improve under A.. The US tries to walk a balancing act of trying to get Iran to go more moderate, but trying like hell to never appear like they are influencing Iranian politics, which generates a profound backlash due to previous interference.  That's why public calls for regime change are so profoundly stupid.
But, Rhouhani has his enemies in Iran, many of whom didn't like the Obama deal.  In order to attack Rhouhani, they paint him and his allies as puppets of the West.  By claiming the US provided citizenship to many in Rhouhani's inner circle, it makes it look like Rhouhani is compromised. 

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1 minute ago, trauma babe said:

It's still just fucking unreal. A tired trope at this point, but just imagine if Obama had done that with any leader.

Does anyone know if it is typical for Trump to do with any other leaders?  Does he do private one-on-ones with Merkel or Macron?   

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Wasn't there just something over the weekend about them secretly upgrading their nuclear research facilities?  I guess Fox and Friends didn't give him that briefing.

Yes.  And it doesn't matter, even if he did get the briefing.  He will lie about what NK was doing and his lies will be the truth to 35% of the country and a majority of Congress.  And the threat will magically disappear.

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