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1 minute ago, Vince_McCoy_Williams said:

He has more money now than in the past, but whatever fits your narrative

And you know this how?

He's never released tax returns, so your knowledge of his personal finances are what he has told the public, and given his track record there, it's open for skepticism.  

I couldn't care less how much money he has (or doesn't have).  I'd rather him be truthful...remember the "gonna release the tax returns" before, during and after the election? Yeah.  

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/times-donald-trump-release-tax-returns-article-1.3061868

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Vince_McCoy_Williams said:

Well he started with a million dollars and now has an empire that far exceeds that amount, so the debate you are setting up is dumb. 

If you believe what he's said, which is setting you up as dumb.

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1 minute ago, Vince_McCoy_Williams said:

Well he started with a million dollars and now has an empire that far exceeds that amount, so the debate you are setting up is dumb. 

He started with more than a million. He was given a million dollars and then many million more in inheritance. It's also unclear due to the range of estimations of his net worth whether or not he would have been better off taking all the money his dad gave him and just putting it ab index fund. Most estimates by people that aren't Trump sycophants say that his net worth is certainly below the line where that would not be true. If he had just put his money in the S&P 500 index fund he'd be richer today. He is no financial whiz  

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He started with more than a million. He was given a million dollars and then many million more in inheritance. It's also unclear due to the range of estimations of his net worth whether or not he would have been better off taking all the money his dad gave him and just putting it ab index fund. Most estimates by people that aren't Trump sycophants say that his net worth is certainly below the line where that would not be true. If he had just put his money in the S&P 500 index fund he'd be richer today. He is no financial whiz  

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2 minutes ago, TheFlyingBoat said:

He started with more than a million. He was given a million dollars and then many million more in inheritance. It's also unclear due to the range of estimations of his net worth whether or not he would have been better off taking all the money his dad gave him and just putting it ab index fund. Most estimates by people that aren't Trump sycophants say that his net worth is certainly below the line where that would not be true. If he had just put his money in the S&P 500 index fund he'd be richer today. He is no financial whiz  

Here is this dumbass tired argument again, he has an empire and name recognition that got him into the highest position of power in the world, and he has done very well for himself financially mind you. Yet you sit here and act like he shouldve just sit on his ass all these years and done nothing with his money. He used it build a brand, he invested it in many companies, he created businesses that employ our Americans and give them jobs; fuck your index fund, your armchair financial analysis is poor, he has done incredibly well with his money and all you can do to cut him down is say he could have slightly more with your hindsight analysis. Who is the real loser here? 

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8 minutes ago, Vince_McCoy_Williams said:

Here is this dumbass tired argument again, he has an empire and name recognition that got him into the highest position of power in the world, and he has done very well for himself financially mind you. Yet you sit here and act like he shouldve just sit on his ass all these years and done nothing with his money. He used it build a brand, he invested it in many companies, he created businesses that employ our Americans and give them jobs; fuck your index fund, your armchair financial analysis is poor, he has done incredibly well with his money and all you can do to cut him down is say he could have slightly more with your hindsight analysis. Who is the real loser here? 

I'm saying you're not a financial genius if you literally could not beat the market. That should be pretty self-evident to anyone with a brain. Now Trump did become President, kudos to him, that is something very difficult to do, but that has nothing to do with your claims about his financial acumen. He's actually a pretty shit executive but am incredible promoter if you look at the math.

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7 minutes ago, Vince_McCoy_Williams said:

Here is this dumbass tired argument again, he has an empire and name recognition that got him into the highest position of power in the world, and he has done very well for himself financially mind you. Yet you sit here and act like he shouldve just sit on his ass all these years and done nothing with his money. He used it build a brand, he invested it in many companies, he created businesses that employ our Americans and give them jobs; fuck your index fund, your armchair financial analysis is poor, he has done incredibly well with his money and all you can do to cut him down is say he could have slightly more with your hindsight analysis. Who is the real loser here? 

He's a modern day PT Barnum that had a rich Daddy and constantly promoted himself in the media. Don't act like he was born a poor black child. His fails far outnumber his successes.

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9 minutes ago, Vince_McCoy_Williams said:

Here is this dumbass tired argument again, he has an empire and name recognition that got him into the highest position of power in the world, and he has done very well for himself financially mind you. Yet you sit here and act like he shouldve just sit on his ass all these years and done nothing with his money. He used it build a brand, he invested it in many companies, he created businesses that employ our Americans and give them jobs; fuck your index fund, your armchair financial analysis is poor, he has done incredibly well with his money and all you can do to cut him down is say he could have slightly more with your hindsight analysis. Who is the real loser here? 

You mean besides you? 

Geez, who appointed you trumps chief fluffer?

Hes a lying sack of shit who commands zero respect except among brain dead morons such as you. That’s what makes him a loser now, in the past, and forever more. I don’t give a damn how many ugly hookers he’s banged or how many banks he’s fucked over. 

But maybe I just have different priorities than you. 

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26 minutes ago, Vince_McCoy_Williams said:

Lol, did he get a loan of a billion dollars? 

Bottom line is, the dude has an empire worth far more than he started with, that is indisputable. 

We don't know because trump failed to extricate himself from his foreign and domestic emoluments. And he's failed to release his tax returns. So given that we know that deutsche bank loaned him 640m that he went tits up on and no domestic banks would give him a loan, and he's been doing a shitload of business abroad before and during his presidency, then his capital has to be coming from somewhere, and it certainly isn't self-funded.

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He's a modern day PT Barnum that had a rich Daddy and constantly promoted himself in the media. Don't act like he was born a poor black child. His fails far outnumber his successes.


Exactly he’s not a businessman, he’s at best a con man snake oil salesman.
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Attempted murder nbd "I'm sorry officer, I didn't know I couldn't do that"

 

1 minute ago, Captainant said:

We don't know because trump failed to extricate himself from his foreign and domestic emoluments. And he's failed to release his tax returns. So given that we know that deutsche bank loaned him 640m that he went tits up on and no domestic banks would give him a loan, and he's been doing a shitload of business abroad before and during his presidency, then his capital has to be coming from somewhere, and it certainly isn't self-funded.

I'm becoming convinced that the only thing Trump has a billion of is "bad decisions."

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23 minutes ago, Vince_McCoy_Williams said:

Here is this dumbass tired argument again, he has an empire and name recognition that got him into the highest position of power in the world, and he has done very well for himself financially mind you. 

He’s here because the Dems ran the worst candidate they could find, who was guaranteed to drive up GOP turnout. 

As for his financial prowess, he made damn sure we aren’t able to find out how well or how poorly he’s done. He’s too afraid to release his tax returns and other such records. 

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2 minutes ago, SuingToGetAMessageBoard? said:

Probably get good support for saying he’s acting beyond his mandate by referring matters unrelated to 2016 campaign.  

Except Mueller didn't investigate it or do the judicial work to get warrants or anything - he simply passed along what he found to another law enforcement agency. I'd think that makes him pretty free and clear of a legitimate complaint right?

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Except Mueller didn't investigate it or do the judicial work to get warrants or anything - he simply passed along what he found to another law enforcement agency. I'd think that makes him pretty free and clear of a legitimate complaint right?

I’m talking more about messaging/political fallout than actual authority.  It would be an easy line to sell Fox, TexAgs etc. that Mueller’s gone rogue.  

 

I think the underlying order even says he can investigate crimes that become apparent during his investigation, but I don’t think it would be hard for people that wanted to to craft an argument that this is too far afield.

 

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18 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Apparently Rosenstein made the call to kick it to NY

Lulz.  Just went to see what the spin was on the_donald. 

 

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They will make one up and plant evidence if that's what it takes to unlawfully unseat a legally elected President of the US. I've never seen anything like what is happening now. POTUS has been under siege since he took office. This is alarming and disgusting. Wasn't Mueller supposed to be investigating Russia meddling in the elections? Now he's raiding offices for porn star payment information? Shouldn't he have some limits or is this a fucking free for all? 

 
He exceeded his limits a while ago. He’s a rogue.
 
 
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Lulz.  Just went to see what the spin was on the_donald. 

 

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They will make one up and plant evidence if that's what it takes to unlawfully unseat a legally elected President of the US. I've never seen anything like what is happening now. POTUS has been under siege since he took office. This is alarming and disgusting. Wasn't Mueller supposed to be investigating Russia meddling in the elections? Now he's raiding offices for porn star payment information? Shouldn't he have some limits or is this a fucking free for all? 

 
He exceeded his limits a while ago. He’s a rogue.
 
 

This is exactly the angle they have been building up to all along. Discredit the intelligence agencies and the press, so any evidence that Mueller presents is the work of some deep state conspiracy. 

And that will be the true test of this country. What to do with elected officials that play along with this fantasy conspiracy, egged on by the retarded masses that worship the Dotard. 

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29 minutes ago, SuingToGetAMessageBoard? said:

They will make one up and plant evidence if that's what it takes to unlawfully unseat a legally elected President of the US. I've never seen anything like what is happening now. POTUS has been under siege since he took office. This is alarming and disgusting. Wasn't Mueller supposed to be investigating Russia meddling in the elections? Now he's raiding offices for porn star payment information? Shouldn't he have some limits or is this a fucking free for all? 

 

Somewhere Bill Clinton is muttering "Can I get an amen?".

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31 minutes ago, SuingToGetAMessageBoard? said:

Lulz.  Just went to see what the spin was on the_donald. 

 

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They will make one up and plant evidence if that's what it takes to unlawfully unseat a legally elected President of the US. I've never seen anything like what is happening now. POTUS has been under siege since he took office. This is alarming and disgusting. Wasn't Mueller supposed to be investigating Russia meddling in the elections? Now he's raiding offices for porn star payment information? Shouldn't he have some limits or is this a fucking free for all? 

 
He exceeded his limits a while ago. He’s a rogue.
 
 

that is hilarious. i mean, never mind mueller didn't raid anyone's offices today.

 

well, that we know of.

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I see this as a victory for Trump's administration and a banner day.  In a little over a year into his presidency there have only been two FBI raids on his associates.  I thought there'd be way more.  I shouldn't have doubted him. 

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5 minutes ago, longhorndude said:

Yep, how much do you think he regrets ever running for office tonight? Better bring him a full gallon of ice cream.

 

We're gonna need more Diet Coke

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4 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Just watched his full remarks.  Good lord.  SO UNFAIR!  SESSIONS!  BUT HILLARY!  Squeal like a pig motherfucker.

When you go to a Trump press conference, you want to hear the hits. I don't like the new material.

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The upside is Trump pwnd the fake media narrative about the CBO's latest revelation that the tax cuts combined with spending will increase the debt by $1.6 trillion by June.  Probable cause being found on Cohen dwarfs the the otherwise hilarious news cycle about the rigorous fisting that our economy is about to take.

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