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55 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

Too bad we can't have a NO party system.  Wouldn't it be great if we voted according to the candidates' ideas instead of their logo?

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
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They are going to kill him aren't they.

 

This makes me think of their Deep State theories. If they were true, we have one sorry ass Deep State. The Deep State should have gotten rid of him a long time ago.

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7. They will propose shocking laws to provoke your outrage. You will focus your efforts on fighting them, so they will seemingly back off, giving you a false sense of victory.

 

YEAR 1 Under Authoritarianism

What to Expect?

They will come to power with a campaign based on fear, scaremongering and distorting the truth. Nevertheless, their victory will be achieved through a democratic electoral process. But beware, as this will be their argument every time you question the legitimacy of their actions. They will claim a mandate from the People to change the system.

Remember – gaining power through a democratic system does not give them permission to cross legal boundaries and undermine said democracy.

They will divide and rule. Their strength lies in unity, in one voice and one ideology, and so should yours. They will call their supporters Patriots, the only “true Americans”. You will be labelled as traitors, enemies of the state, unpatriotic, the corrupt elite, the old regime trying to regain power. Their supporters will be the “People”, the “sovereign” who chose their leaders.

Don’t let them divide you – remember you’re one People, one Nation, with one common good.

Through convoluted laws and threats they will try to control mainstream media and limit press freedom. They will ban critical press from their briefings, calling them “liars”, “fake news”. They will brand those media as “unpatriotic”, acting against the People (see point 2).

Fight for every media outlet, every journalist that is being banned, censored, sacked or labelled an “enemy of the state” – there’s no hope for freedom where there is no free press.

They will create chaos, maintain a constant sense of conflict and danger. It will be their argument to enact new authoritarian laws, each one further limiting your freedoms and civil liberties. They will disguise them as being for your protection, for the good of the People.

See through the chaos, the fake danger, expose it before you wake up in a totalitarian, fascist state.

They will distort the truth, deny facts and blatantly lie. They will try to make you forget what facts are, sedate your need to find the truth. They will feed “post-truths” and “alternative facts”, replace knowledge and logic with emotions and fiction.

Always think critically, fact-check and point out the truth, fight ignorance with facts.

They will incite and then leak fake, superficial “scandals”. They will smear opposition with trivial accusations, blowing them out of proportion and then feeding the flame. This is just smokescreen for the legal steps they will be taking towards totalitarianism.

See through superficial topics in mainstream media (see point 3) and focus on what they are actually doing.

7. They will propose shocking laws to provoke your outrage. You will focus your efforts on fighting them, so they will seemingly back off, giving you a false sense of victory. In the meantime they will push through less “flashy” legislation, slowly dismantling democracy (see points 4 and 6).

Focus your fight on what really matters.

When invading your liberal sensibilities they will focus on what hurts the most – women and minorities. They will act as if democracy was majority rule without respect for the minority. They will paint foreigners and immigrants as potential threats. Racial, religious, sexual and other minorities will become enemies to the order and security they are supposedly providing. They will challenge women’s social status, undermine gender equality and interfere with reproductive rights (see point 7). But it means they are aware of the threat women and minorities pose to their rule, so make it your strength.

Women and minorities should fight the hardest, reminding the majority what true democracy is about.

They will try to take control of the judiciary. They will assault your highest court. They need to remove the checks and balances to be able to push through unconstitutional legislation. Controlling the judiciary they can also threat anyone that defies them with prosecution, including the press (see point 3).

Preserve the independence of your courts at all cost, they are your safety valve, the safeguard of the rule of law and the democratic system.

They will try to limit freedom of assembly, calling it a necessity for your security. They will enact laws prioritizing state events and rallies, or those of a certain type or ideology. If they can choose who can demonstrate legally, they have a legal basis to forcefully disperse or prosecute the rest.

Oppose any legislation attempting to interfere with freedom of assembly, for whatever reason.

They will distort the language, coin new terms and labels, repeat shocking phrases until you accept them as normal and subconsciously associate them with whom they like. A “thief”, “liar” or “traitor” will automatically mean the opposition, while a “patriot” or a “true American” will mean their follower (see point 2). Their slogans will have double meaning, giving strength to their supporters and instilling angst in their opponents.

Fight changes in language in the public sphere, remind and preserve the true meaning of words.

They will take over your national symbols, associate them with their regime, remake them into attributes of their power. They want you to forget that your flag, your anthem and your symbols belong to you, the People, to everyone equally. Don’t let them be hijacked. Use and expose them in your fight as much as they do.

Show your national symbols with pride, let them give you strength, not associate you with the tyranny they brought onto your country.

They will try to rewrite history to suit their needs and use the education system to support their agenda. They will smear any historical or living figure who wouldn’t approve of their actions, or distort their image to make you think they would. They will place emphasis on historical education in schools, feeding young minds with the “only correct” version of history and philosophy. They will raise a new generation of voters on their ideology, backing it with a distorted interpretation of history and view of the world.

Guard the education of your children, teach them critical thinking, ensure their open-mindedness and protect your real history and heritage.

They will alienate foreign allies and partners, convincing you don’t need them. They won’t care for the rest of the world, with their focus on “making your country great again”. While ruining your economy to fulfil their populist promises, they will omit the fact that you’re part of a bigger world whose development depends on cooperation, on sharing and on trade.

Don’t let them build walls promising you security instead of bridges giving you prosperity.

They will eventually manipulate the electoral system. They might say it’s to correct flaws, to make it more fair, more similar to the rest of the world, or just to make it better. Don’t believe it. They wouldn’t be messing with it at all if it wasn’t to benefit them in some way.

Oppose any changes to electoral law that an authoritarian regime wants to enact – rest assured it’s only to help them remain in power longer.

And above all, be strong, fight, endure, and remember you’re on the good side of history.
EVERY authoritarian, totalitarian and fascist regime in history eventually failed, thanks to the PEOPLE.


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2 minutes ago, sachick said:

This makes me think of their Deep State theories. If they were true, we have one sorry ass Deep State. The Deep State shouldn't have gotten rid of him a long time ago.

No shit.  It's one flimsy ass Deep State that can't even find his tax returns.

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Jesus fucking christ.  For a bunch of wannabe "alphas" who are obsessed with calling their opponents "cucks," their leader is the biggest fucking gaping vagina beta cuck who just got totally dominated by a dictator and is now crawling back from the safety of being back across the ocean from a scary dictator.  This is your hero GOP.  

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 GLBT eroding religious rights. 

Neil Patrick Harris kidnapped me from my church and marched me down to the local Chick Fil A, at which time he forced a Southern Baptist Minister to gay marry me to the ghost of Liberace right there in front of a bunch of kids from a vacation Bible school who were just sitting there eating chicken nuggets and minding their own business. 

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I rarely speak in absolutes, but anyone supporting Trump at this point is a stunted idiot or outright traitor.  You cannot support him and love America, it's just impossible.  Trump needs to go... and we will need to take a long look at how deeply the Russians have penetrated... crippling sanctions for Russia, the cold war is back on, but only one side knows it.

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2 minutes ago, Loco said:

I rarely speak in absolutes, but anyone supporting Trump at this point is a stunted idiot or outright traitor.  You cannot support him and love America, it's just impossible.  Trump needs to go... and we will need to take a long look at how deeply the Russians have penetrated... crippling sanctions for Russia, the cold war is back on, but only one side knows it.

This.  Midterms 2018.  The Battle for America.

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2 minutes ago, theCruiser said:

The White House sends Treasury agents each week to random D.C. area grocery stores to shop for the First Family.  It's a tried and true system such that nobody could effectively poison anyone in the White House because it would require tainting so many levels of supply chain of groceries at so many locations/chains.  

I wonder if, like most destination resorts, Mar-A-Lago gets its food supply from just one supplier.    I bet the Russians and/or Hillary have looked into it. 

Why wouldn't SS agents just shop at multiple FL groceries when Dotus is at Mar-A-Lago?

 

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The excuse that the meddling didnt change anything is slowly coming to a screeching hault now:

 

Top Voting Machine Vendor Admits It Installed Remote-Access Software on Systems Sold to States

 

Remote-access software and modems on election equipment 'is the worst decision for security short of leaving ballot boxes on a Moscow street corner.

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/mb4ezy/top-voting-machine-vendor-admits-it-installed-remote-access-software-on-systems-sold-to-states?utm_source=reddit.com

 

 

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46 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

This is just like his Charlottesville do over. He was reading something prepared by staff that he obviously didn't want to read. He even threw in a "both sides."

Yep. He can’t criticize the people whose support he needs to win re-election: white supremacists and Russia. 

No matter what his staff tells him to say, he has to go off script to appease his base. 

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The excuse that the meddling didnt change anything is slowly coming to a screeching hault now:

 

Top Voting Machine Vendor Admits It Installed Remote-Access Software on Systems Sold to States

 

Remote-access software and modems on election equipment 'is the worst decision for security short of leaving ballot boxes on a Moscow street corner.

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/mb4ezy/top-voting-machine-vendor-admits-it-installed-remote-access-software-on-systems-sold-to-states?utm_source=reddit.com

 

 

Hey, I'm just thankful none of our national voting apparatus is owned by Russians... what's that?

Ah, for Christ's sake..

Maryland voter registration system runs on software owned by Russian firm

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I am now 180 degrees away from where I was in the past. We need to eliminate all electronic voting. All paper, with options for mail-in or in-person (with same-day registration).

Remove everything we can from the hands of the techlords, because they are going to end our civlization.

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I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume you've never spent much time in Chicago or New Orleans.  

We should also have international inspectors supervising our elections.

I'm not even worried about the Russians. I'm worried about our homegrown Asperger monster freaks in Silicon Valley.

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This talk about the voting machines is interesting but the worst thing we can do is sacrifice election sovereignty from the states to the federal government or international actors.

The election voting systems should remain decentralized and state controlled.

I’d focus on how my state does things and work to eliminate vulnerabilities.

Secretaries of State should be all hands on deck right now sharing solution ideas with their state legislators and other states.

 

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7 minutes ago, FondrenRoad said:

You mean upstanding international inspectors like the Joint Russia USA Cyber Security Team?  Or crooked inspectors like the UN?

No no no, we will get everyone to help. All our friends who are very good with the elections! Iraq, North Korea, Russia, Zimbabwe, the Philippines, Belarus, China, Kazakhstan, Iran, The Sudan and Turkey.

We can host them all at Mar-A-Lago for a party.

 

 
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1 minute ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

The election voting systems should remain decentralized and state controlled.

Oversight is absolutely necessary by both the federal government and international voting agencies. Local control of elections alone is a recipe for HUGE civil rights disasters.

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18 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

I am now 180 degrees away from where I was in the past. We need to eliminate all electronic voting. All paper, with options for mail-in or in-person (with same-day registration).

Remove everything we can from the hands of the techlords, because they are going to end our civlization.

 

16 minutes ago, theCruiser said:

I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume you've never spent much time in Chicago or New Orleans.  

I want both.  I'm fine with electronic vote entry....so long as it prints out your ballot, and you deposit the physical, paper ballot into a box.

The pathway to utterly wrecking our electoral process is too fucking easy if we're using electronic systems that are accessible from outside (and they ALL are).

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7 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

This talk about the voting machines is interesting but the worst thing we can do is sacrifice election sovereignty from the states to the federal government or international actors.

The election voting systems should remain decentralized and state controlled.

I’d focus on how my state does things and work to eliminate vulnerabilities.

Secretaries of State should be all hands on deck right now sharing solution ideas with their state legislators and other states.

 

Id settle just for voting systems that, oh I dont know, DONT HAVE REMOTE ACCESS VULNERABILITIES!!!!

 

In other news, theyre trotting out the republicans on TV now to defend this damage control today.  Jesus fucking christ.  End them all.

 

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5 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Oversight is absolutely necessary by both the federal government and international voting agencies. Local control of elections alone is a recipe for HUGE civil rights disasters.

Oversight is fine.  Just don’t let the oversight have any real power.  They should observe and report but that’s it.

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1 hour ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

We've become too accustomed to Trump referring to "doing deals" with other countries. Can anything be more vague? He spoke of greater ease of doing a deal with Russia if relations are better, which, until he bent the knee, were at their all time worst. 

But what does he think he's talking about when he mentions doing a deal with China or Mexico or Russia? What does this hopeless moron see in his cotton candy covered cranium? 

Use the NK "deal" as an example. He does a deal that demands nothing concrete from his opposite while he makes concessions in exchange for a commemorative coin and a lovely signed parchment. He goes in unprepared and comes away in the retard spotlight celebrating himself.

I suppose we should be glad that nobody can really take him seriously. 

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Would be more accurate if Trump were in the apron serving up a deep-fried eagle to King Putin.

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7 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

Use the NK "deal" as an example. He does a deal that demands nothing concrete from his opposite while he makes concessions in exchange for a commemorative coin and a lovely signed parchment. He goes in unprepared and comes away in the retard spotlight celebrating himself.

That NK “deal” was hilariously inept.  Within two weeks after declaring he had denuclearized North Korea, the Norks were caught red-handed building nuclear testing facilities, denied ever agreeing to denuclearize in the first place, and snubbed our SoS. Art of the Deal, indeed.

The only reason no one’s talking about that colossal blunder is because Trump immediately pivoted to getting clowned by Putin.  

Trump is a moron and every dictator on Earth is lining up for the opportunity to humiliate him in public.  

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1 hour ago, DiceHands said:

This is such horse shit/

He spent that entire press conference yesterday saying he believed putin.

Him changing would to wouldnt makes ZERO FUCKING SENSE.

My immediate reaction too.  It wasn't a single incredible Trump statement that raised everybody's eyebrows.  He spent the last seven or eight minutes repeatedly throwing America under Putin's bus.

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59 minutes ago, Loco said:

I rarely speak in absolutes, but anyone supporting Trump at this point is a stunted idiot or outright traitor.  You cannot support him and love America, it's just impossible.  Trump needs to go... and we will need to take a long look at how deeply the Russians have penetrated... crippling sanctions for Russia, the cold war is back on, but only one side knows it.

No! You don't love America because you believe the lying Fake News media who would destroy this country to spite Donald Trump. Trump heroically leads us back to greatness by brushing aside libs and Hollywood Celebrities whose hidden agendas have threatened to bring our beloved country down for decades. DECADES!

Obama talks to the Russians and he's a hero. Trump does it and the Fake News calls him a traitor.

North Korea shoots missiles at us and Trump stares little Kim down!

Supreme Court! 

Libtard tears!

He knows how to do deals. Get out of the man's way!

[They'll never concede a single point. They are Texags and the anti-trump traitors are  tu.]

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1 hour ago, bad_teammate said:

His voters didn't need anything smoothed over. Only the furrowed-brow Republicans in DC and the media class give a shit about any of this. The mainstream Republican voter either isn't paying attention or had no problem with it.

This is such a farce on basically every "side".

And the DC Republicans are back on board!

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2 hours ago, bad_teammate said:

ChiTown is a rich guy Republican. Their policies are unpopular and their policies alone cannot win national elections. For many, many decades, rich guy Republicans have had an uncomfortable marriage with the slathering bigots to form a conservative coalition. For decades, the rich guy Republicans could control the GOP and reliably get the slathering hordes to come and vote. Enter Donald Trump, and the power dynamic has shifted. The slathering horde is in control and the rich guy Republicans are just SHOCKED!

Furrowed-brow, very-concerned Republicans coming to the left looking for a temporary home are like a man who set his own house on fire knocking your door saying, "Can you spare a room for the night? I think we can both agree that burning houses are bad" as he continues to hold a can of gasoline and box of matches.

No, fuck off. Put the gas and matches away and we'll talk, but if your sole concern is having to deal with the logical endpoint of your worldview, please kindly go the fuck away.

 

No--I'm sorry; but you fuck off.

This is an all-hands-on-deck emergency to save the Republic.  It's Team Patriot v. Team Traitor.  And I don't care if someone on my Team Patriot used to play for Team Trickle-Down any more than I care that he used to play for the Portland Sea Dogs.  They're on my team now, and we need as many teammates as we can get.

Now, maybe after we save the Republic, we can split back up into different teams and disagree about the finer points of public policy.  But in order to adopt any of your preferred policies, we first need to save the Republic.  Otherwise, none of your policies get adopted and you find yourself in a camp.

So welcome aboard Team Patriot, @ChiTownDoc .  It's getting to be a pretty good little team we've got here, even if we have some really shitty teammates who need to learn to shut their goddamned stupid fucking mouths every so often.

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That NK “deal” was hilariously inept.  Within two weeks after declaring he had denuclearized North Korea, the Norks were caught red-handed building nuclear testing facilities, denied ever agreeing to denuclearize in the first place, and snubbed our SoS. Art of the Deal, indeed.

The only reason no one’s talking about that colossal blunder is because Trump immediately pivoted to getting clowned by Putin.  

Trump is a moron and every dictator on Earth is lining up for the opportunity to humiliate him in public.  

The rate of idiocy comes at us so fast that we cannot process them individually.

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