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10 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

Someone said it, maybe on here, and I agree:  pardoning Libby is all about Trump trying to signal to all his cronies that he will pardon them and take care of it as long as they cover for him.

Some of them I don't think he's allowed to pardon, and he can't pardon for the state charges.

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2 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

They have been handed an amazing opportunity that could be used to set back the GOP for years to come, possibly even until the demographic shifts in a few states make it much, much harder for the GOP to make a comeback. 

But because they are Democrats, they know deep down, that they will fuck up this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. They can’t help themselves. 

I would add as evidence: They have done a really piss-poor job of making Republicans in Congress own Trump's policies when they support those policies, and that's why I think they will fuck things up if they Trump starts firing people.

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2 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

Someone said it, maybe on here, and I agree:  pardoning Libby is all about Trump trying to signal to all his cronies that he will pardon them and take care of it as long as they cover for him.

Exactly.  It's a bat signal that you can cooperate and say nothing, plead guilty or even lie to the investigators and still be in the clear.  It's a green light to do your worst with proof of a safety net.  The fourth quarter strategy now is to overtly display a spiral of disgrace and lawlessness to protect one guy.  Other Republicans will continue to be "concerned" while their funding institution financially contributes to smearing people who haven't broken laws and championing those who have.   

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Trump pardons Scooter Libby for obstruction and perjury, sending clear message to potential obstructionists and perjurers everywhere. Now we find out that Libby's lawyer is also the wife of the guy who has been giving the Don legal advice through the TV. 

This is my shocked face

 

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2 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

On the day the president called Comey a liar and a leaker, he pardons someone who did those exact things and was convicted.

 

 

 Beat me to it. 

Slam someone as a leaker in the morning. Pardon a leaker in the afternoon. 

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Lolz

From WSJ Broidy article 

 

“The Broidy agreement uses the same pseudonyms for Mr. Broidy and the woman with whom he was allegedly involved—David Dennison and Peggy Peterson—as the earlier agreement used for Mr. Trump and Ms. Clifford, respectively, the person familiar with the matter said. Both agreements had separate side letters that listed the real names of the parties, this person said.

In the Broidy agreement, Mr. Cohen, who represented Mr. Broidy, is referred to as Dennis Donohue; Mr. Davidson, the Los Angeles lawyer who represented the woman alleged to have had a sexual relationship with Mr. Broidy, is referred to as Paul Patterson, according to the person familiar with the matter.”

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Holy fucking shit. Cohen filed to suppress the search warrant. This is the Govt response. Some bombshells in there. 

http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/2018_0413_cohen_vs_USA.pdf

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Based on information gathered in the investigation to date, the USAO-SDNY and FBI have reason to believe that Cohen has exceedingly few clients and a low volume of potentially privileged communications.

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To be sure, searches of premises belonging to an attorney raise special concerns, which impose a need for heightened care, due to the fact that such premises may contain privileged material. But there can be no dispute that attorneys, like anyone else, may be criminally investigated for their conduct, and that law enforcement officials may search an attorney’s law office – or other premises – “pursuant to a valid warrant that is supported by probable cause that an attorney has been engaging in criminal activity and that the law offices in question contain evidence of this suspected wrongdoing.” United States v. Stewart, No. 02 Cr. 396 (JGK), 2002 WL 1300059, at *3 (S.D.N.Y. June 11, 2002). That is what happened here: A federal magistrate judge found that there was probable cause to believe that Cohen’s premises and devices contained evidence, fruits and instrumentalities that specified federal crimes were committed. 

That is what happened here: A federal magistrate judge found that there was probable cause to believe that Cohen’s premises and devices contained evidence, fruits and instrumentalities that specified federal crimes were committed. 

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5 minutes ago, Pods said:

Holy fucking shit. Cohen filed to suppress the search warrant. This is the Govt response. Some bombshells in there. 

http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/2018_0413_cohen_vs_USA.pdf

That is what happened here: A federal magistrate judge found that there was probable cause to believe that Cohen’s premises and devices contained evidence, fruits and instrumentalities that specified federal crimes were committed. 

Yeah...but they use the term "filter team," not "taint team."  I like "taint team" more.

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3 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Let me guess... “go fuck yourself” in so many words.

Pretty much, in overwhelming fashion. Cohen wants his own defense counsel to be the only person that has access to the file, have his defense counsel separate out what is privileged and pass along the rest. The govt response is "HAHAHA...oh wait, you were serious... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA go fuck yourself. 

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7 minutes ago, Pods said:

Holy fucking shit. Cohen filed to suppress the search warrant. This is the Govt response. 

http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/2018_0413_cohen_vs_USA.pdf

Lulz.

Cohen wants everything seized handed back to his attorneys first to let them determine what is admissible and what is not.  

 

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Fourth, the USAO-SDNY has specific reason to doubt that the seized materials will include the volume and nature of attorney-client communications that Cohen claims. This is Case 1:18-mj-03161-KMW Document 1 Filed 04/13/18 Page 13 of 23 13 because the USAO-SDNY has already obtained search warrants – covert until this point – on multiple different email accounts maintained by Cohen, and has conducted a privilege review of the materials obtained pursuant to those warrants. The results of that review, as resported by the USAO’s Filter Team, indicate that Cohen is in fact performing little to no legal work, and that zero emails were exchanged with President Trump. 

 

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This last point bears particular relevance in this case, in which Cohen proposes (as his primary argument) not that a neutral third party conduct the initial review of the seized materials, but that Cohen’s own counsel conduct the initial review, including for responsiveness. Such a procedure would stymie the USAO-SDNY’s investigation and block lawful evidence gathering in accordance with the Government’s judicially-approved Rule 41 search authority. Moreover, under such a procedure, Cohen’s claims of privilege would likely be “generous.” Already in his brief to this Court, Cohen’s makes overbroad privilege claims. For example, as described below, Cohen makes claims about his purported privileged communications involving a law firm (with which he had a “strategic relationship”), which are inconsistent with the facts we know about his actual relationship with that firm. In addition, the USAO-SDNY has already received correspondence from counsel for the Trump Organization (Cohen’s former employer), which referenced the searches conducted of Cohen’s premises and claimed:

We consider each and every communication by, between or amongst Mr. Cohen and the Trump Organization and each of its officers, directors and employees, to be subject to and protected by the attorney- client privilege and/or the work-product privilege.

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In the face of inaccurate and/or overbroad claims of privilege, the USAO-SDNY

would be seriously prejudiced if it were not able, through a Filter Team, to evaluate the validity of such claims. 

I'm guessing that law firm is Squire, Patton, Boggs where he had subcontracted to house his office. They are also Cambridge Analytica's lawyers and lobbyists for at least one oligarch, but the name slips me right now. 

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A tidbit of information:

"Accordingly, the nature of the USAO-SDNY's investigation and the nature of the offenses--which sound in fraud and evidence a lack of truthfulness--weighed heavily in favor of the USAO-SDNY's decision to execute search warrants."

And this teaser is interesting as fuck:

"Furthermore, in the course of its investigation, the USAO-SDNY has learned that [almost FIVE full lines of redacted text].  As a result, absent a search warrant, these records could have been deleted without record, and without recourse for law enforcement." 

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From the govt response:

 

Fourth, the USAO-SDNY has specific reason to doubt that the seized materials will include the volume and nature of attorney-client communications that Cohen claims because the USAO-SDNY has already obtained search warrants – covert until this point – on multiple different email accounts maintained by Cohen, and has conducted a privilege review of the materials obtained pursuant to those warrants. The results of that review, as resported by the USAO’s Filter Team, indicate that Cohen is in fact performing little to no legal work, and that zero emails were exchanged with President Trump.

 

 

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