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It makes the women in my life uncomfortable and concerned, if that makes me a bigot, then so be it. 

It makes your whole family bigots, because it's a completely unfounded fear. It's unfortunate you've passed it on to another generation.

That’s where we differ then I suppose, I believe it to be a rational fear. 

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Oh look, the fucking troll is trolling again.  

Hey Chrispy, a guy can walk into a lady’s restroom anytime right now and rape your wife and daughter. 

They should probably avoid using public restrooms all together.

It could happen, sure, but the goal is to minimize those chances. Sending my daughter into a restroom with a man would be poor parenting. 

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Going beyond the transgender conversation is the fact that so many people live in fear. Transgender persons, illegal immigrants, terrorists... the list is endless. I really don't get it. Life is just to fucking short to live everyday looking over your shoulder and expecting the worst. I'm not naive, i know there are bad people and bad things do happen, but living in fear is no way to go through life. 

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No, they believe they are something that they are not. 

No you just refuse to accept the facts as established by the trained professionals whose job it is to study these things. I’m so shocked though that you ignore experts in favor of your own bigotry.

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You know what?  I'm afraid of racists.  They have a well-documented history of violence.  The same goes for right wing Christians.  Both of those groups have a much more violent history than transsexuals.  

So I don't think I should have to use the bathroom with racists and/or right wing Christians.  I just wouldn't feel safe.  Actually, I don't think those groups of people should be allowed in public at all.  

See how stupid this is?  And my mock position is actually easier to support with evidence than your real one.

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35 minutes ago, Chrispy said:

It could happen, sure, but the goal is to minimize those chances. Sending my daughter into a restroom with a man would be poor parenting. 

If anything happened in the restroom you wouldn't believe her anyway. Remember it's a scary time for men right now.

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Going beyond the transgender conversation is the fact that so many people live in fear. Transgender persons, illegal immigrants, terrorists... the list is endless. I really don't get it. Life is just to fucking short to live everyday looking over your shoulder and expecting the worst. I'm not naive, i know there are bad people and bad things do happen, but living in fear is no way to go through life. 

Fear of the other gets out the vote so Trump and the GOP fan the flames. This has been the case for a long time now. Gay marriage, seculars, WMDs, muslims, immigrants, socialists, transgender, George Soros, the Deep State, antifa...are interchangeable. 

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12 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

No you just refuse to accept the facts as established by the trained professionals whose job it is to study these things. I’m so shocked though that you ignore experts in favor of your own bigotry.

You’re not spouting facts, just emotion. Transgender women aren’t actually female, I’m sorry that offends you. 

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26 minutes ago, Chrispy said:

You’re not spouting facts, just emotion. Transgender women aren’t actually female, I’m sorry that offends you. 

No I’m just stating what the World Heath Organization says. But what do those doctors know anyway. 

You simple stating your inaccurate opinion doesn’t refute the facts

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Hey Chrispy since female bathroom talk isn’t going away in your house could you please make sure you tell them - and have them tell their friends - to clean off the toilet seat when they pee? The seat splatter in women’s restrooms makes men’s restrooms look like sterile hospital rooms. It’s disgusting.

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Chrispy's full of shit regarding the trans man on the previous page.  If he were to come out of a woman's restroom and Chrispy was standing outside waiting for his daughter, he'd absolutely throw a fit about a man being in the woman's restroom. Trans people have been around for ages and this bathroom nonsense only started when Republicans decided to invent a problem to rile up their base that previously didn't exist.

 

 

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Hey Chrispy since female bathroom talk isn’t going away in your house could you please make sure you tell them - and have them tell their friends - to clean off the toilet seat when they pee? The seat splatter in women’s restrooms makes men’s restrooms look like sterile hospital rooms. It’s disgusting.

That’s crazy; would have never guessed that.

My daughter had her first encounter with trans life this past weekend when we were in an...interesting...part of the city and the clerk at the CVS had nails and makeup and long hair and a five day stubble beard worse than my own. Point being, kids are going to be encountering in real life and having words in their vocabulary that we didn’t have until adulthood.

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That’s crazy; would have never guessed that.

My daughter had her first encounter with trans life this past weekend when we were in an...interesting...part of the city and the clerk at the CVS had nails and makeup and long hair and a five day stubble beard worse than my own. Point being, kids are going to be encountering in real life and having words in their vocabulary that we didn’t have until adulthood.

Which is great.  They’ll grow up to be better people.

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Which is great.  They’ll grow up to be better people.

I guess. Reminds me of the “my generation” thread in the other forum. Just different times and how dynamic human beings are and the cultures and society’s we build and how we come together and then move, like a huge school of fish.

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That’s crazy; would have never guessed that.

My daughter had her first encounter with trans life this past weekend when we were in an...interesting...part of the city and the clerk at the CVS had nails and makeup and long hair and a five day stubble beard worse than my own. Point being, kids are going to be encountering in real life and having words in their vocabulary that we didn’t have until adulthood.

How did she react? My guess is she couldn't care less.  More importantly, how did you react? If you treated the clerk like, i don't know, a human being she probably did the same and left the encounter unscathed. On the other hand if you made sure she understood that, as Crispy would say, this is a mentally ill person thay should be feared, she was probably pretty traumatized. I'm guessing you took the former approach and your daughter is better for it. 

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That’s crazy; would have never guessed that.
My daughter had her first encounter with trans life this past weekend when we were in an...interesting...part of the city and the clerk at the CVS had nails and makeup and long hair and a five day stubble beard worse than my own. Point being, kids are going to be encountering in real life and having words in their vocabulary that we didn’t have until adulthood.


I know you are using this to explain the scary world isn’t so scary, but I do want to share what is likely her experience. Unlikely she was rocking the beard as a fuck you to the patriarchy. She’s probably early in her transition. Everyone does it differently. But I can tell you she was probably ashamed and scared shitless. Probably full of anxiety as well. And if she’s going the electrolysis route she has to grow the facial hair out for it to work. Or if laser it takes 6-10 days to fall out after treatment. There is no real easy way around the physical treatments. They are terribad. The road is hard as fuck and full of embarrassing and humiliating moments. And she’d be profoundly grateful for kindness. I know I was.
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How did she react? My guess is she couldn't care less.  More importantly, how did you react? If you treated the clerk like, i don't know, a human being she probably did the same and left the encounter unscathed. On the other hand if you made sure she understood that, as Crispy would say, this is a mentally ill person thay should be feared, she was probably pretty traumatized. I'm guessing you took the former approach and your daughter is better for it. 

She laughed about it (have y’all see The greatest show movie with hugh Jackman? There is a bearded lady that kids either think is a) scary or b) hilarious) and asked what the deal was with that. We were kind and polite and that was it and went on about our life and day as I’m sure she (the clerk) did as well.

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