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13 minutes ago, Jack Straw said:

The time for this is RIGHT FUCKING NOW

The time for it was November 2016, but here we are.

 

And yes, Hillary was a terrible candidate.  She deserved to lose for a multitude of reasons.  And I contend the Republican party would be much better off from a position of opposing a Hillary presidency than bowing to their orange Lord and Savior and becoming completely and utterly subservient to he and his family's needs, but again, here we are.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Jack Straw said:

Um, what makes you think that Trump and the complicit Republicans are going to let that happen, regardless of the results of the voting?  

Seriously - when was the last time - in the history of planet Earth - that a completely corrupt dictator - which is exactly what we have with Trump - peacefully handed over the reigns to a new administration and acknowledged that they were "voted out of office"?

I'm pretty sure the answer is never.  I do not expect Trump to be the first.  

...and half the country will support him keeping power just to stick it to libs.  It's mind bottling.

 

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High Plains Drifter

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48 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Donald Trump will leave office if he is not re-elected or after his second term.

He will be removed by force if necessary.

OK, lets explore this scenario.

Trump claims election was a fraud, refuses to leave. Someone files a lawsuit, goes to SCOTUS, who rules Trump lost. Noon, Jan 20 rolls around, Trump refuses to leave.

Who will do the removing? How will that work?

Anybody? Bueller?

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13 minutes ago, High Plains Drifter said:

OK, lets explore this scenario.

Trump claims election was a fraud, refuses to leave. Someone files a lawsuit, goes to SCOTUS, who rules Trump lost. Noon, Jan 20 rolls around, Trump refuses to leave.

Who will do the removing? How will that work?

Anybody? Bueller?

All you have to do is wait for him to go golfing, change the locks, and put his shit out on the curb.  Refusal really only matters if he has FBI, CIA, Secret Service, and/or military backing.  Since he'll have none of that, it should be no problem kicking him and his family out the door when the time comes.

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22 minutes ago, High Plains Drifter said:

OK, lets explore this scenario.

Trump claims election was a fraud, refuses to leave. Someone files a lawsuit, goes to SCOTUS, who rules Trump lost. Noon, Jan 20 rolls around, Trump refuses to leave.

Who will do the removing? How will that work?

Anybody? Bueller?

As of noon on the 20th, he's not president and it doesn't matter where he is.

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8 minutes ago, FondrenRoad said:

All you have to do is wait for him to go golfing, change the locks, and put his shit out on the curb.  Refusal really only matters if he has FBI, CIA, Secret Service, and/or military backing.  Since he'll have none of that, it should be no problem kicking him and his family out the door when the time comes.

Stop serving McDonalds and KFC in the WH.  He'll come out on his own.

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24 minutes ago, High Plains Drifter said:

OK, lets explore this scenario.

Trump claims election was a fraud, refuses to leave. Someone files a lawsuit, goes to SCOTUS, who rules Trump lost. Noon, Jan 20 rolls around, Trump refuses to leave.

Who will do the removing? How will that work?

Anybody? Bueller?

I imagine it will be up to the Secret Service to arrest him 

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13 minutes ago, shnsajax said:

Good thing there is a distraction while this is getting dropped

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/25/world/middleeast/saudi-arabia-jamal-khashoggi-turkey.html

Their shifting story is reminiscent of the Trump family's evolving explanation about the Trump Tower meeting when they were colluding with the Russians. 

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This video is from 2016. Before the election even. Trump has been beating the drum for violence against detractors for a long, long time. It's not "both sides" responsible for the violence. It's trump's YEARS of condoning, encouraging, and normalizing of political violence that's brought us to this place. And it's not going to get any better for a while.

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1 hour ago, High Plains Drifter said:

OK, lets explore this scenario.

Trump claims election was a fraud, refuses to leave. Someone files a lawsuit, goes to SCOTUS, who rules Trump lost. Noon, Jan 20 rolls around, Trump refuses to leave.

Who will do the removing? How will that work?

Anybody? Bueller?

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Yes, this is a Herman Melville joke.

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2 hours ago, High Plains Drifter said:

OK, lets explore this scenario.

Trump claims election was a fraud, refuses to leave. Someone files a lawsuit, goes to SCOTUS, who rules Trump lost. Noon, Jan 20 rolls around, Trump refuses to leave.

Who will do the removing? How will that work?

Anybody? Bueller?

im telling ya. 2020. better hope the military can act accordingly because this society won't be agreeing on shit. we are broken.  

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1 hour ago, SubliminalHorn said:

I imagine it will be up to the Secret Service to arrest him 

Or the United States Army.  Once the new president is installed he or she is in charge.  I know there are plenty of trumpkins in the military but I think the generals are pretty unhappy with lietenant bone spurs' approach to foreign relations and would be happy to help get the usurper out of office.

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I also liked how Washington warned in his farewell address against this exact type of shitbag, if we chose to engage in the hyper-partisan game (oh, and we chose to engage -- and we took all the PEDs and trained really hard in the off-season):

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20 I have already intimated to you the danger of parties in the state, with particular reference to the founding of them on geographical discriminations. Let me now take a more comprehensive view, and warn you in the most solemn manner against the baneful effects of the spirit of party, generally.

21 This spirit, unfortunately, is inseparable from our nature, having its root in the strongest passions of the human mind. It exists under different shapes in all governments, more or less stifled, controlled, or repressed; but, in those of the popular form, it is seen in its greatest rankness, and is truly their worst enemy.

22 The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders and miseries, which result, gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of Public Liberty.

23 Without looking forward to an extremity of this kind, (which nevertheless ought not to be entirely out of sight,) the common and continual mischiefs of the spirit of party are sufficient to make it the interest and duty of a wise people to discourage and restrain it.

24 It serves always to distract the Public Councils, and enfeeble the Public Administration. It agitates the Community with ill-founded jealousies and false alarms; kindles the animosity of one part against another, foments occasionally riot and insurrection. It opens the door to foreign influence and corruption, which find a facilitated access to the government itself through the channels of party passions. Thus the policy and the will of one country are subjected to the policy and will of another.

So, to hit the highlights --

Partisan idiocy leads to people joining a cult of personality.  Check.

That leader is focused on his "own elevation" as opposed to the public good.  Check.

A movement built on fear/alarmism (Ms-13! Mooslems!  CARAVAN!).  Check.

Party passion creates a door for foreign influence.  Check.  I mean, "da."

By that mechanism, the policy and the will of one country is allowed to influence another.  Check.

 

George waved a whole line of these:

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Which we are dutifully ignoring.  Seriously, read Washington's farewell address (he has more to say about the dangers of party and faction).  We shoulda listened to him.

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11 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

I also liked how Washington warned in his farewell address against this exact type of shitbag, if we chose to engage in the hyper-partisan game (oh, and we chose to engage -- and we took all the PEDs and trained really hard in the off-season):

So, to hit the highlights --

Partisan idiocy leads to people joining a cult of personality.  Check.

That leader is focused on his "own elevation" as opposed to the public good.  Check.

A movement built on fear/alarmism (Ms-13! Mooslems!  CARAVAN!).  Check.

Party passion creates a door for foreign influence.  Check.  I mean, "da."

By that mechanism, the policy and the will of one country is allowed to influence another.  Check.

 

George waved a whole line of these:

rred-flags.jpg

 

Which we are dutifully ignoring.  Seriously, read Washington's farewell address (he has more to say about the dangers of party and faction).  We shoulda listened to him.

George is probably rolling over in his grave so much that you can hear it at Mount Vernon.

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35 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

I also liked how Washington warned in his farewell address against this exact type of shitbag, if we chose to engage in the hyper-partisan game (oh, and we chose to engage -- and we took all the PEDs and trained really hard in the off-season):

So, to hit the highlights --

Partisan idiocy leads to people joining a cult of personality.  Check.

That leader is focused on his "own elevation" as opposed to the public good.  Check.

A movement built on fear/alarmism (Ms-13! Mooslems!  CARAVAN!).  Check.

Party passion creates a door for foreign influence.  Check.  I mean, "da."

By that mechanism, the policy and the will of one country is allowed to influence another.  Check.

 

George waved a whole line of these:

rred-flags.jpg

 

Which we are dutifully ignoring.  Seriously, read Washington's farewell address (he has more to say about the dangers of party and faction).  We shoulda listened to him.

We lost our way when people started neglecting their responsibilities as a citizen.  This democracy experiment only works with a well informed electorate.  

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