Donald Trump 2018

[BrazilHorn 6576]

1 hour ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Where can I go to see the stats on anchor babies? How many are born every year, where do their parents come from, when and how did they get here? I'd like to know. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/andyjsemotiuk/2016/10/05/the-citizenship-and-immigration-problems-of-anchor-babies-and-surrogacy/amp/

 

pew research findings from Forbes. 

[Continental Op 3934]

9 hours ago, cactusflinthead said:

And it's only Tuesday Morning!

 

 

Holy shit.  Read the whole article and it's pretty much the most epic BUT OBAMA!!! in history.  10/10.  Would read again. 

[Huckleberry 32694]

3 minutes ago, BrazilHorn said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/andyjsemotiuk/2016/10/05/the-citizenship-and-immigration-problems-of-anchor-babies-and-surrogacy/amp/

 

pew research findings from Forbes. 

I don't see anything there with a breakdown on where they come from.

[jimmyjazz 45538]

Looks like illegals account for ~ 6% of annual births in the US.  Obviously, a huge drain on the economy.  Personally, I'd build a wall, but that's just me.

[shnsajax 3589]

Paul Ryan already weighing in that Trump can EO birthright. Does Paul have a nickname yet?

[4th&Five 41457]

Womp. Womp. 

 

[BrazilHorn 6576]

7 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

I don't see anything there with a breakdown on where they come from.

Yeah I thought was in there. Just did quick search of the googles. 

Gives totals but not family of origin. 

[atomheartbevo 89395]

3 hours ago, 4th&Five said:

 

 

Kushner will never allow it, but would be funny if Trump laid into the Jewish liberal media conspiracy on twitter for keeping him from taking photos with the wounded.  

[Bama Chick 28596]

What a pig.

[Longhorn_Fan68 33831]

[hpslugga 4042]

51 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

Womp. Womp. 

 

https://www.axios.com/trump-birthright-citizenship-executive-order-0cf4285a-16c6-48f2-a933-bd71fd72ea82.html

This bumbling idiot has less of a grip on reality than my 3-year old daughter has. The fact that so many as 1 person voted for this buffuckingfoon even in the primary is absolutely shocking.

Edited October 30, 2018 by hpslugga

[Longhorn_Fan68 33831]

swing and a miss

[hpslugga 4042]

3 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

Putting the Bible on there is pretty tacky and lame.

It's not a cross-out of the Bible, it's a cross-out of these vulgar hypocrites that call themselves "the religious right" who on one side of their neck preach about Jesus and then, on the other side of their neck, espouse political beliefs that have absolutely nothing to do with anything that's written in the Bible. Too often, those people read into the Bible things that it does not say, then they don't read what it does say. In other words, they read between the lines without reading the lines.

3 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

Saying you want to ban Chick Fila is just preposterous

And again, that's not what's being said. It's exploiting yet another stereotype: the idiot southerner who proudly brandishes the Confederate Flag and cannot for the life of him/her see the irony of pairing that with the MAGA hat. 

[WhatTheBuck 28703]

1 hour ago, BrazilHorn said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/andyjsemotiuk/2016/10/05/the-citizenship-and-immigration-problems-of-anchor-babies-and-surrogacy/amp/

 

pew research findings from Forbes. 

Nothing in that article, or in the linked Pew study, says anything about the whiteness or non-whiteness of the anchor babies. According to the Pew study, the number of anchor babies born in the U.S. rose steadily every year from the time of Reagan and started to come down again at about the start of the Obama administration. I thought that was ironic. 

According to the Pew study, about 8% of the 3.9 Million births in 2013 were to unauthorized-immigrant parents, but that also includes couples where only one parent is unauthorized. I don't think 8% is all that significant. A lot of those are going to be children of people who came here to make a better life for themselves. The so-called Dreamers. 

The thrust of the Forbes article is about "birth tourists" who come here just to have their baby so it has U.S. citizenship. That number is estimated at 36,000 a year, or one tenth of one percent of overall births. That seems pretty insignificant. Sort of like the actual frequency of in person voter fraud. 

The author does a lot of speculation and what iffing. Who's going to pay for their health care? Maybe that's something he could have researched. He does say:

"Pregnant women fly here, stay at special hotels and pay sometimes extraordinarily high costs for “concierge services” designed to facilitate the birth of their children. The benefit to the family is that the child is thereby eligible to claim U.S. social welfare, be educated at much lower cost and obtain certain medical benefits for life here."

Maybe if they can afford to pay for the process, they can pay for the care and maintenance of their child. I doubt that they're just dropping them off and leaving them to be wards of the state. Most parents actually love their children and want to take care of them. Maybe he could have done some case studies on actual birth tourists and told us their stories. Given the slant of the article, though, I gather he would've looked for the worst case scenarios, like his anecdotal reference (without citation) of the Honduran woman who had a Zika baby in NY. Presumably not a birth tourist. Who's going to pay for that, he asks. I don't know. Why don't you track her down and ask her?

Maybe the majority of anchor babies are non-white. It would make sense since we share a border with Mexico and Canada, and Canadians have a lot less reason to want their kids to be American citizens. 

What about the birth tourist babies? I wonder what their demographics look like. What's the distribution among non-whites? How many are Latino vs Chinese, Indian, or African? How many are Russian? Regardless, I see that as a total non-issue. If you want to do something about it, don't amend the constitution, go after the people selling the services to facilitate it. While you're at it, go after the Kushners who are selling Visas to the Chinese for exorbitant sums. 

[bolverk 29394]

And the hits keep coming.

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Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) on Tuesday said that he will introduce legislation to end birthright citizenship after President Trump suggested he wanted to do so through an executive order. 

"Finally, a president willing to take on this absurd policy of birthright citizenship. I’ve always supported comprehensive immigration reform — and at the same time — the elimination of birthright citizenship," Graham said in a string of tweets. 

 

https://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/413832-graham-to-introduce-legislation-ending-birthright-citizenship

Meanwhile:

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George Conway, the husband of White House counselor Kellyanne Conway, co-wrote an op-ed on Tuesday rejecting President Trump's assertion that he could do away with birthright citizenship through an executive order.

"Such a move would be unconstitutional and would certainly be challenged. And the challengers would undoubtedly win," Conway wrote in The Washington Post with attorney Neal Katyal.

Conway, a self-described conservative, and Katyal, a self-described liberal, argued that the authors of the Constitution's 14th Amendment were "simple and clear" in drafting a provision that meant anyone born in the United States is a citizen of the country.

This fucking administration.

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Brazil's newly elected president, Jair Bolsonaro, is positioning himself to be a strong ally of President Trump, a move that could bolster U.S. influence in South America as the region’s largest economy tries to shed its socialist past.

Bolsonaro, a right-wing populist and former military officer, has praised Trump and echoed his rhetoric against "fake news," China and criminals. Trump returned the favor on Saturday, congratulating Bolsonaro for his electoral victory, saying the United States and Brazil will "work closely together on Trade, Military and everything else!"

The potential for strengthened ties between the U.S. and Brazil — the two largest countries, by population, in the Western Hemisphere — is very real, according to Juan Carlos Hidalgo, a Latin America expert at the Cato Institute in Washington.

"I think relations with the U.S. under the Trump administration are very likely to improve significantly," said Hidalgo.

https://thehill.com/latino/413981-us-poised-to-strengthen-ties-with-brazils-trump-of-the-tropics

[RPM 26208]

1 hour ago, longhornmatt said:

Saying you want to ban Chick Fila is just preposterous, and shows New Yorkers are idiots.

Fuck Chick Fila and their racist, homophobic, religious loon, Trump fellating owners. Too bad they have such tasty chicken, but it's worth standing up for my principles to miss out.

[BrazilHorn 6576]

1 hour ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Nothing in that article, or in the linked Pew study, says anything about the whiteness or non-whiteness of the anchor babies. According to the Pew study, the number of anchor babies born in the U.S. rose steadily every year from the time of Reagan and started to come down again at about the start of the Obama administration. I thought that was ironic. 

According to the Pew study, about 8% of the 3.9 Million births in 2013 were to unauthorized-immigrant parents, but that also includes couples where only one parent is unauthorized. I don't think 8% is all that significant. A lot of those are going to be children of people who came here to make a better life for themselves. The so-called Dreamers. 

The thrust of the Forbes article is about "birth tourists" who come here just to have their baby so it has U.S. citizenship. That number is estimated at 36,000 a year, or one tenth of one percent of overall births. That seems pretty insignificant. Sort of like the actual frequency of in person voter fraud. 

The author does a lot of speculation and what iffing. Who's going to pay for their health care? Maybe that's something he could have researched. He does say:

"Pregnant women fly here, stay at special hotels and pay sometimes extraordinarily high costs for “concierge services” designed to facilitate the birth of their children. The benefit to the family is that the child is thereby eligible to claim U.S. social welfare, be educated at much lower cost and obtain certain medical benefits for life here."

Maybe if they can afford to pay for the process, they can pay for the care and maintenance of their child. I doubt that they're just dropping them off and leaving them to be wards of the state. Most parents actually love their children and want to take care of them. Maybe he could have done some case studies on actual birth tourists and told us their stories. Given the slant of the article, though, I gather he would've looked for the worst case scenarios, like his anecdotal reference (without citation) of the Honduran woman who had a Zika baby in NY. Presumably not a birth tourist. Who's going to pay for that, he asks. I don't know. Why don't you track her down and ask her?

Maybe the majority of anchor babies are non-white. It would make sense since we share a border with Mexico and Canada, and Canadians have a lot less reason to want their kids to be American citizens. 

What about the birth tourist babies? I wonder what their demographics look like. What's the distribution among non-whites? How many are Latino vs Chinese, Indian, or African? How many are Russian? Regardless, I see that as a total non-issue. If you want to do something about it, don't amend the constitution, go after the people selling the services to facilitate it. While you're at it, go after the Kushners who are selling Visas to the Chinese for exorbitant sums. 

Like I mentioned. I did quick google search. It’s the Pew institute for Hispanic Studies doing research so I imagine preponderance of these births are to Hispanics. I do think it is a policy that hasn’t scaled with today’s world (same with gun rights) but it should be addressed as part of broader immigration reforms vs a stand alone action. 

 

[Bozo_Casanova 26271]

Seriously this is really fucking stupid

[WhatTheBuck 28703]

6 minutes ago, BrazilHorn said:

Like I mentioned. I did quick google search. It’s the Pew institute for Hispanic Studies doing research so I imagine preponderance of these births are to Hispanics. I do think it is a policy that hasn’t scaled with today’s world (same with gun rights) but it should be addressed as part of broader immigration reforms vs a stand alone action. 

 

I missed that while I was reading the article, following the embedded links and reading those articles, and composing my reply. 

Incidentally, if you click the link from your google search results and give the page a little time to load, you can copy the direct url to the target resource rather than the Google search link. 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andyjsemotiuk/2016/10/05/the-citizenship-and-immigration-problems-of-anchor-babies-and-surrogacy/amp/

[Voldemort86 2259]

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/30/trump-democrats-markets-economy-949477

trump blaming the democrats for the volatility in the stock market. This guy is such a dumb fuck. You cant have it both ways. When he took office, he immediately extended his hand and took ALL credit for soaring stocks, and now he’s trying to blame the democrats less then a year after he pretty much publicly said “the economy is mine now, I own it”.

 

what a manchild. No accountability. This guy is a total embarrassment.

[Francisco 2.0 32312]

2 hours ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

This gotta be something someone printed up and stuck on.  I can't see this being an official city marketing campaign.  If so, whoever green lighted this needs canned.

[Judge Roybeanbag 11802]

26 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Seriously this is really fucking stupid

Yes, but like true slapstick, it’s really fucking funny.   

[atomheartbevo 89395]

5 hours ago, ChickenSandwich said:

The vast majority of us are here because our great relatives immigrated legally.  Legal immigration when done in a controlled and safe manor is undoubtedly a huge positive for the country.

Maybe if most of your ancestors came to the US within the past century.  Check the official numbers who came through Castle Garden, Galveston, etc. before Ellis Island started up in the 1890s.  Now look at the numbers of people born elsewhere ( Europe, Asia, Africa, etc.). Those numbers don’t match by a large margin because many people just left Europe and showed up in the US somewhere and then disappeared into one of the immigrant communities.

I have dozens of ancestors who did this, and less than a handful who came legally.  I find this is the case with a lot of people.  

[Grandioso 2592]

Yeah, that looks like a Banksy type hoax. NYC makes too much money from tourists to alienate the red staters that fly in to see Hamilton and but trinkets on Times Square.

[atomheartbevo 89395]

5 hours ago, BrazilHorn said:

Perhaps there should be different Jus soli rules based on the parent's situation. If you are truly a refugee (say from Syria eg) you are treated differently than someone coming to a birth hotel from China.

It is complicated, but I think there is a way to improve current process.

Start with solid verification with employment.  Query the IRS and Social Security databases for multiple users of the same SS # and do something about that. Then crack down hard on companies that have a habit of hiring illegals. Audit the industries that have a propensity for hiring folks with cash and no paper trails.  Shut down the worst. Hammer banks that have multiple people using the same identity or SS#.  

Dry up jobs for illegals and punish those companies benefitting from them.  

Then let’s talk about babies born here, because the numbers will drop.

[atomheartbevo 89395]

3 hours ago, happyfunball said:

Has even Kanye abandoned Trump?!!!

 

If he’s bipolar like some have said, give him a week and he’ll be back on the Trump Train.   Not mocking him or mental illness, it’s just how he seems to act.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

Time to play, “What outrageous shit will Trump pull tomorrow”

1. More racist immigration dog whistle shit (caravan, citizenship)

2. Verbally assault the media “muh enemy of the people!” So unfair 

3. Find another way to obstruct justice (witness tampering, or fire someone)

4. Bring up Hillary for good old times.

5. Pardon someone 

 

 

I’m going with 3 out of 5 occurring.

Edited October 31, 2018 by Hugo Stiglitz

[Biff Tannen 45491]

1, 2, and 4.  But probably all 5 before the election is here.

[atomheartbevo 89395]

4 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Time to play, “What outrageous shit will Trump pull tomorrow”

1. More racist immigration dog whistle shit (caravan, citizenship)

2. Verbally assault the media “muh enemy of the people!” So unfair 

3. Find another way to obstruct justice (witness tampering, or fire someone)

4. Bring up Hillary’s for good old times.

5. Pardon someone 

’m going with 3 out of 5 occurring.

He’s got to be furious at being rebuffed by folks in PA.  There’s got to be a tweet aching to get out. 

[RPM 26208]

41 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Time to play, “What outrageous shit will Trump pull tomorrow”

1. More racist immigration dog whistle shit (caravan, citizenship)

2. Verbally assault the media “muh enemy of the people!” So unfair 

3. Find another way to obstruct justice (witness tampering, or fire someone)

4. Bring up Hillary for good old times.

5. Pardon someone 

 

 

I’m going with 3 out of 5 occurring.

I hate this game.

[Bama Chick 28596]

The “Take Out The Trump Trash” posters are not sponsored by nor have anything to do with the city.

No one seems to know who’s behind them but I found this -

The posters resemble the work of artist Winston Tseng, who created last year’s “Your Train is Delayed” MTA parody ads, Gothamist reported — but Tseng only told the outlet, “I’ll let the poster speak for itself.”

Tseng said a little more to WPIX, however, denying he’s behind the posters:

“For the record, I didn’t create or put up these posters,” he told the station. “But if I did, I wouldn’t want people to take them so seriously, since they’re meant to reflect certain parts of our society and not meant to generalize beyond those. I’d just want the intended audience of my fellow ‘classist elitist New Yorkers’ to hopefully be entertained by the ‘unhelpful, tone-deaf message’ as they go about their day in this trash-filled liberal bubble.”

WPIX also reported that most of the posters have been removed.

I think that artist doth protest too much. They look suspiciously like his work and were deployed in the same manner.

[Francisco 2.0 32312]

In light of a proposed EO to curtail children automatically becoming citizens, I offer a refresher from January:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/birth-tourism-brings-russian-baby-boom-miami-n836121

 

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Lured by the charm of little Havana or the glamour of South Beach, some 15 million tourists visit Miami every year.

But for a growing number of Russian women, the draw isn't sunny beaches or pulsing nightclubs. It's U.S. citizenship for their newborn children.

In Moscow, it's a status symbol to have a Miami-born baby, and social media is full of Russian women boasting of their little americants

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"It's really common," said Ekaterina Kuznetsova, 29. "When I was taking the plane to come here, it was not only me. It was four or five women flying here."

Ekaterina was one of dozens of Russian birth tourists NBC News spoke to over the past four months about a round-trip journey that costs tens of thousands of dollars and takes them away from home for weeks or months.

Why do they come?

"American passport is a big plus for the baby. Why not?" Olesia Reshetova, 31, told NBC News.

"And the doctors, the level of education," Kuznetsova added.

The weather doesn't hurt, either.

"It's a very comfortable place for staying in wintertime," Oleysa Suhareva said.

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In a twist, as the Daily Beast first reported, condo buildings that bear the Trump name are the most popular for the out-of-town obstetric patients, although the units are subleased from the individual owners and it's not clear if building management is aware.

There is no indication that Trump or the Trump Organization is profiting directly from birth tourism; the company and the White House did not respond to requests for comment.

Roman Bokeria, the state director of the Florida Association of Realtors told NBC News that Trump- branded buildings in the Sunny Isles Beach area north of Miami are particularly popular with the Russian birth tourists and Russian immigrants.

"Sunny Isles beach has a nickname — Little Russia — because people who are moving from Russian-speaking countries to America, they want … a familiar environment."

"They go across the street, they have Russian market, Russian doctor, Russian lawyer," he added. "It's very comfortable for them.

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There is no official data on birth tourism in the United States. The Center for Immigration Studies, which wants stricter limits on immigration, estimates there are 36,000 babies born in the U.S. to foreign nationals a year, though the numbers could be substantially lower. Florida says births in the state by all foreign nationals who live outside the United States have jumped 200 percent since 2000.

 

 

[Mdhorn 5910]

51 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

1, 2, and 4.  But probably all 5 before the election is here.

playing some form of the hits I see.  

6. make up a new squirrel

[texas08 1599]

It’s comical to read this huge pussy’s fear mongering tweets.

He knows he’s going to spend the rest of his life behind bars or taking cock from Putin in Siberia. Fuck you Dotard. Fuck you.

Oh yeah, and fuck your 40% base!

[gmr548 16481]

Maybe if most of your ancestors came to the US within the past century.  Check the official numbers who came through Castle Garden, Galveston, etc. before Ellis Island started up in the 1890s.  Now look at the numbers of people born elsewhere ( Europe, Asia, Africa, etc.). Those numbers don’t match by a large margin because many people just left Europe and showed up in the US somewhere and then disappeared into one of the immigrant communities.

I have dozens of ancestors who did this, and less than a handful who came legally.  I find this is the case with a lot of people.  

 

Not to mention the fact that whitey wasn't exactly invited here by that original inhabitants.

 

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[cactusflinthead 27594]

Evangelicals believe that a unified Israel with control over Jerusalem will facilitate the construction of a new Jewish temple, and set the groundwork for the end of times. 

That’s where Trump comes in. 

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-will-bring-about-end-worldevangelicals-end-times-779643?fbclid=IwAR0x5ceZjnYwiGyKB_O1v36nk_sSc4YZEamW8IpnuM53Gi_4IaEWRt9zft0

[Prepuce of Doom 20981]

3 hours ago, RPM said:

Fuck Chick Fila and their racist, homophobic, religious loon, Trump fellating owners. Too bad they have such tasty chicken, but it's worth standing up for my principles to miss out.

I will chip in a couple hundred thousand dollars to the startup costs if someone wants to start a better chicken joint called Satan's Gay Chicken or similar. 

[F250 28674]

1 hour ago, Prepuce of Doom said:

I will chip in a couple hundred thousand dollars to the startup costs if someone wants to start a better chicken joint called Satan's Gay Chicken or similar. 

This might be considered heresy but the crispy chicken sandwich from Bill Millers is a damn good chicken sandwich and I prefer it over Chick-fil-A.

 

 

[F250 28674]

The GOP is going hard in the paint to make the 14th Amendment controversy about immigration reform rather than the Executive branch violating the constitution. I'm guessing Paul Ryan will be getting a soap party tonight for fucking up the narrative.

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

Since we’re still on this, how about the time stamp on this tweet?

 

[safe sex 11676]

This might be considered heresy but the crispy chicken sandwich from Bill Millers is a damn good chicken sandwich and I prefer it over Chick-fil-A.
 
 

That is the first time I've seen a positive endorsement of anything not a breakfast taco at Bill Miller's.

[JimmyJames 12271]

2 minutes ago, trauma babe said:

34 minutes ago, F250 said:

This might be considered heresy but the crispy chicken sandwich from Bill Millers is a damn good chicken sandwich and I prefer it over Chick-fil-A.
 
 

That is the first time I've seen a positive endorsement of anything not a breakfast taco at Bill Miller's.

Me too. End of times must be here. 

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13545]

2 hours ago, cactusflinthead said:

Evangelicals believe that a unified Israel with control over Jerusalem will facilitate the construction of a new Jewish temple, and set the groundwork for the end of times. 

That’s where Trump comes in. 

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-will-bring-about-end-worldevangelicals-end-times-779643?fbclid=IwAR0x5ceZjnYwiGyKB_O1v36nk_sSc4YZEamW8IpnuM53Gi_4IaEWRt9zft0

 

[Buzzrock 14870]

61, caucasian, male
What do I win?

That would have been too easy. Betty White grandma type in a POS Prius.

[WhatTheBuck 28703]

9 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Start with solid verification with employment.  Query the IRS and Social Security databases for multiple users of the same SS # and do something about that. Then crack down hard on companies that have a habit of hiring illegals. Audit the industries that have a propensity for hiring folks with cash and no paper trails.  Shut down the worst. Hammer banks that have multiple people using the same identity or SS#.  

Dry up jobs for illegals and punish those companies benefitting from them.  

Then let’s talk about babies born here, because the numbers will drop.

But we don't want to spend $5 for a head of lettuce. 

[HenryJames 65884]

6 hours ago, F250 said:

This might be considered heresy but the crispy chicken sandwich from Bill Millers is a damn good chicken sandwich and I prefer it over Chick-fil-A.

 

 

Flyrite will let you order beer in the drive thru.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

[Buzzrock 14870]

This aggression against Chick-fil-a will not stand man

Also:

[SuingToGetAMessageBoard? 3861]

8 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

Flyrite will let you order beer in the drive thru.

But you won’t actually get it, of course.  Best drive through food, worst accuracy rate on delivering your order.  

 

 

[SKJ 1305]

On 10/30/2018 at 12:50 AM, Bama Chick said:

Heyyyyyyy, fuck you Nikki.
 

https://twitter.com/drmistercody/status/1057514992831000576?s=20