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  On 5/27/2020 at 6:08 PM, Brisketexan said:

And I have ACTUAL law-enforcement related PTSD (seriously, it popped into my head last night and wouldn't let me sleep) from the cops beating the shit out of my dad, jailing him, and not even letting us know that had happened so we thought he was dead.  That actually fucking happened.  So fuck them.  Zero sympathy from me.  If they can't hack the job without taking it out on innocent people, fucking quit.

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The beauty of the internet is that anyone can say anything they want with virtually no way to actually fact check that person

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  On 5/26/2020 at 7:42 PM, SquishMitten said:

This is one of the most disgusting things I’ve ever watched. Let’s just say, for the sake of argument, that he was resisting at first and needed to be subdued. Then the cop is going by the old “if he can talk, he can breathe.” But the dude goes fucking unconscious and the cop STILL doesn’t take his knee off of his neck. Then he’s flopping around limp when the paramedics try to put him on the stretcher. How does nobody (I.e., cop or paramedic) in that situation think something might be wrong?!?

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They just don't care.  That's the issue.

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  On 5/27/2020 at 7:41 PM, The_Great_Hornsby said:

The beauty of the internet is that anyone can say anything they want with virtually no way to actually fact check that person

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Wait....are you genuinely suggesting that I'm lying about the event with my dad?  Because the memory literally kept me awake last night - hadn't thought about it in years, but there it was.

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  On 5/27/2020 at 7:40 PM, Captainant said:

This is a lazy and shitty response in light of the ongoing and persistent police brutality in the US. You're choosing to ignore reality in favor of your rose-colored reality that cops (as an institution) give a flying fuck about the wellbeing of citizens and are uniformly "good". 

One "bad cop" does a bad thing and is seen by a hundred "good cops". "Good cops" let it slide/cover for the "bad cop". You now have 101 bad cops.

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No, I’m stating my experiences, which have been extremely positive. I’m not going to acknowledge his warped reality just because he has PTSD, sorry. 

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  On 5/27/2020 at 7:30 PM, Poe It Up said:

That’s not a fact and I’m not acknowledging such nonsense. I’m sincerely not trying to be a dick, but I think your emotions are getting the best of you here. I’m rooting for you to get the counseling you need to tackle this issue, you definitely have a lot to sort through. 

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Cops who will cover for the dirty cops, or look the other way while they do what they do, are just as guilty as those who perpetrate the bad acts.  The thin blue line is alive and well, and it is a cancer.

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  On 5/27/2020 at 7:47 PM, Chewbacca said:

Cops who will cover for the dirty cops, or look the other way while they do what they do, are just as guilty as those who perpetrate the bad acts.  The thin blue line is alive and well, and it is a cancer.

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Sure, and I get that. But trying to get me to acknowledge that my friends are family are dirty cops because, well they’re cops, is ridiculous. 

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  On 5/27/2020 at 7:52 PM, Poe It Up said:

Sure, and I get that. But trying to get me to acknowledge that my friends are family are dirty cops because, well they’re cops, is ridiculous. 

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So you admit the thin blue line is alive and well and you acknowledge the detrimental effects it has on how police operate, but you simultaneously want to claim your friends and family are not impacted by it?  That just happens in all the other departments, right?

 

There's some cognitive dissonance for you right there, folks.

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  On 5/27/2020 at 7:49 PM, Captainant said:

And you're ignoring that your experiences have been extremely positive because you are part of their "tribe" because you are family

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Maybe in a small town that will fly, but having a cousin on the force in a larger city doesn’t mean shit, that I can promise you. 

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  On 5/27/2020 at 7:52 PM, Poe It Up said:

Sure, and I get that. But trying to get me to acknowledge that my friends are family are dirty cops because, well they’re cops, is ridiculous. 

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Until cops actually take a stand against this destructive behavior, they are all one in the same. It's all one big gang. They cover for each other and enable this behavior. Most cops are not in fact dirty by doing criminal shit and using their power for their own gain. But they all stand by and don't do jack shit about it. American cops are one huge ass gang with different divisions and departments across our land. All the same.

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  On 5/27/2020 at 7:58 PM, Chewbacca said:

So you admit the thin blue line is alive and well and you acknowledge the detrimental effects it has on how police operate, but you simultaneously want to claim your friends and family are not impacted by it?  That just happens in all the other departments, right?

 

There's some cognitive dissonance for you right there, folks.

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What in the hell are you babbling about? Saying there is an issue broadly is one thing, implying that my family members are involved is something very different. I feel like I’m playing cards with my sister’s kids here. 

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  On 5/27/2020 at 7:58 PM, Poe It Up said:

Maybe in a small town that will fly, but having a cousin on the force in a larger city doesn’t mean shit, that I can promise you. 

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Big city cops will defend and hide illegal actions by their brother and sisters just as well as small town cops. Just ask Dennis Tuttle. Oh wait, you can't. Because HPD trumped up probable cause to get a no-knock warrant to murder him and his girlfriend in their sleep. And it turns out the narco squad had been doing this shit for the better part of a decade and they've had a number of their cases re-opened as a result.

But wouldn't ya know it, the police chief and union chief backed them no questions asked and attacked anyone who dared question the sanctity of the badge and their authority.

Sounds pretty fuckin familiar to your posting ethos in the thread.

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  On 5/27/2020 at 8:05 PM, Captainant said:

Big city cops will defend and hide illegal actions by their brother and sisters just as well as small town cops. Just ask Dennis Tuttle. Oh wait, you can't. Because HPD trumped up probable cause to get a no-knock warrant to murder him and his girlfriend in their sleep. And it turns out the narco squad had been doing this shit for the better part of a decade and they've had a number of their cases re-opened as a result.

But wouldn't ya know it, the police chief and union chief backed them no questions asked and attacked anyone who dared question the sanctity of the badge and their authority.

Sounds pretty fuckin familiar to your posting ethos in the thread.

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You think I’m the one on the offensive in this discussion. Sheeeit. Sounds like I missed out though, they sure didn’t get me out of that speeding ticket a couple years back. 

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  On 5/27/2020 at 8:12 PM, Poe It Up said:

You think I’m the one on the offensive in this discussion. Sheeeit. Sounds like I missed out though, they sure didn’t get me out of that speeding ticket a couple years back. 

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What would they have done for their partner?  If they showed up and found he was drunk and had wrecked his car?  If he started beating up an arrestee?  Would they treat him like any other criminal?

If they would.....they are beyond exceptional.  

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  On 5/27/2020 at 8:12 PM, Poe It Up said:

You think I’m the one on the offensive in this discussion. Sheeeit. Sounds like I missed out though, they sure didn’t get me out of that speeding ticket a couple years back. 

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At least you were pulled over for actually speeding as opposed to a non-reason that led to your arrest for resisting arrest. I'd bet that shit doesn't happen to someone with a 100 club sticker on their car. Or someone who isn't black.

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  On 5/27/2020 at 8:15 PM, Brisketexan said:

What would they have done for their partner?  If they showed up and found he was drunk and had wrecked his car?  If he started beating up an arrestee?  Would they treat him like any other criminal?

If they would.....they are beyond exceptional.  

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Hypotheticals are fun and entertaining, but ultimately useless. 

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  On 5/27/2020 at 8:25 PM, Poe It Up said:

Hypotheticals are fun and entertaining, but ultimately useless. 

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Until one of those hypotheticals pulls you over.  And beats the fuck out of you.  Because you didn't respect their authoritah.

A buncha hypotheticals just murdered a man in Minneapolis.  A hypothetical covered up for his partner stalking an ex (see bad teammate's post). A hypothetical escalated the Sandra Bland arrest.  A hypothetical pulled over my dad, beat the fuck out of him, and didn't even let him contact his family.  A hypothetical shot Walter Scott in the back in S. Carolina.  And a metric shitton of hypotheticals covered for the violent hypotheticals.

Hypotheticals are dangerous as shit -- because they keep turning into actual bad cops.

But I'm sure your family members are different.

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  On 5/27/2020 at 8:20 PM, Captainant said:

At least you were pulled over for actually speeding as opposed to a non-reason that led to your arrest for resisting arrest. I'd bet that shit doesn't happen to someone with a 100 club sticker on their car. Or someone who isn't black.

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Oh, of course it does. One time I got pulled over for a license plate light being out. When he asked me to get out and talk to him I pointed this out to him. It was hilarious. 

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  On 5/27/2020 at 8:35 PM, Poe It Up said:

Oh, of course it does. One time I got pulled over for a license plate light being out. When he asked me to get out and talk to him I pointed this out to him. It was hilarious. 

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hilarious.  absolutely fucking hilarious.

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  On 5/27/2020 at 8:32 PM, Brisketexan said:

Until one of those hypotheticals pulls you over.  And beats the fuck out of you.  Because you didn't respect their authoritah.

A buncha hypotheticals just murdered a man in Minneapolis.  A hypothetical covered up for his partner stalking an ex (see bad teammate's post). A hypothetical escalated the Sandra Bland arrest.  A hypothetical pulled over my dad, beat the fuck out of him, and didn't even let him contact his family.  A hypothetical shot Walter Scott in the back in S. Carolina.  And a metric shitton of hypotheticals covered for the violent hypotheticals.

Hypotheticals are dangerous as shit -- because they keep turning into actual bad cops.

But I'm sure your family members are different.

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They are different, yes. Excuse me for wanting to avoid tautology, but we’ve been over this repeatedly. 

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It's funny. I live in Pemberton Heights and I am raising my two lily-white boys that cops are corrupt and that you should never call them and if they are ever confronted with to be respectful but absolutely turn on their phone microphone and video (if possible on video) as cops lie.

It is a source of contention with my wife (no pics) as she is a little more "not all cops are bad, you're generalizing" mindset (and she's worried I am turning boys into little anarchists) but I just state fact that while it is true that only some cops are overt criminals, all the other cops who say nothing, who clam up and never testify against the bad apples are all just as guilty and none of them come forward and call out their fellow cops when bad stuff happens, thus making all cops bad.

I will be stunned if a single Minneapolis cop says the first word calling these four pieces of shit out.

 

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The fact that those fucking murderers haven't been arrested and are free men after slowly strangling someone to death in the street is all you need to know about equity between police and public accountability. Or lack thereof, rather.

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I'll say this, the body language of the Asian officer suggests he already knows something is rotten in Denmark with his fellow patrolmen.  You can see he's a bit uneasy about the whole thing minutes before the shit goes down.  I'm sure when this video is released to the courts years from now, somebody will murder his family  

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Forging?  They already dig some unrelated ship on this guy to justify murder in broad daylight?

Imagine if every time somebody was arrested, we called into question the past behavior of the arresting officer/charging officer?  Would police find that unfair and not relevant to the arrest in question?  Now you know how black people feel.  How many failed drug tests, shitty training reports, false arrests, planted evidence, beaten wives, bribes received, and assault/murder raps never filed pepper our boys in blue?  

 

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Cops’ employment files are padded with so many 1/2 day course “completions” and commendations and BS so they look good on the stand. I only do civil law so I don’t go through them often but even the most basic slapdick cop file I’ve seen will have like 300 pages of shit making him/her look like a guy that ran into the towers on 9/11. The negative stuff is like 4 sentences of “cop was warned.”


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Here's a thing, though.

You never ever see any police associations decrying bad shoots, brutality, and bad arrests.

You do see dogshit drivel that I don't think even Trump would spew attempting to defend the indefensible.  Aggressively.

At some point, the good cops and their associations, or a new association type has to come forward and say "this is not how police in America operate."

It's going to become an issue of self-preservation sooner or later.  There is a real, serious pathology in the American law enforcement community.

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  On 5/27/2020 at 7:51 PM, Vic Mackey said:

Lmao. Good for them. Not making it easy for this murderer.

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Here's a profile of the killer's wife, a former Mrs. Minnesota contestant, who says "Under all that unifiorm he's a big softie." Yeah.

https://i1.wp.com/www.twincities.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/jmp-005-0010-mrs-minnesota.jpg?w=810&crop=0%2C0px%2C100%2C9999px&ssl=1spacer.png

https://www.twincities.com/2018/06/02/refugee-who-was-shamed-for-her-looks-as-a-child-is-vying-to-be-the-first-hmong-mrs-minnesota/

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  On 5/27/2020 at 9:06 PM, Braff Zacklin said:

After seeing this, starting to wonder if he was executed for offending one of the blue's sensitivities.

 

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Holy shit. This contradicts the typical cop story when these incidents happen. I heard yesterday this dude was resisting, high/drunk and only after he was cuffed was he subdued. He was cuffed the entire time! And these pieces of shit are still not arrested. It was already very bad yesterday. And how this comes out. I am sure those murdering pieces of shit didn't think about the cameras being out there leading up to the arrest. Or maybe they could not strong arm the owner to "delete" them. They aren't even trying to hide it anymore. They are the biggest gang we have walking the streets in this country.

And no doubt George said something that hurt their fucking feelings and he took offense to it. Most cops are thin skinned pussies with a chip on their shoulder. Probably because they know without that badge and a gun, they are no one anyone respects so they use that to overcompensate. 

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  On 5/27/2020 at 10:16 PM, J.R. Juniors Junior Jr. said:

Here's a profile of the killer's wife, a former Mrs. Minnesota contestant, who says "Under all that unifiorm he's a big softie." Yeah.

https://i1.wp.com/www.twincities.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/jmp-005-0010-mrs-minnesota.jpg?w=810&crop=0%2C0px%2C100%2C9999px&ssl=1spacer.png

https://www.twincities.com/2018/06/02/refugee-who-was-shamed-for-her-looks-as-a-child-is-vying-to-be-the-first-hmong-mrs-minnesota/

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Plot twist: the killer's wife's son is Tou Thao.

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