Minneapolis Cop Murders A Black Man

[Nicole44 22060]

10 minutes ago, SDG said:

Network?

CNN is what I have been watching. Hasn’t started yet. 

Edited May 30, 2020 by Nicole44
It says soon on the little screen

[Pibald 18]

33 minutes ago, scottsins said:

And also, casual observers and even posters all over this site up until this morning have constantly equated “protesters” with “looters and arsonists”. To that end, the dickheads causing a lot of the damage know, CORRECTLY, that BLM and other Floyd protesters will be blamed by the public.

Glad to see a glimmer of hope that we may change some of that perception with this new info.

I agree. Many Americans are going to dismiss protesting, a core democratic right, because they are going to confuse it with rioting / looting, a crime. That’s the shame, and the result will not be that both “sides” find some common ground, but they will be further divided. 
 

[JBJ 3654]

42 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Understand that if a foreign state is fomenting violent action in our country, that’s an actual act of war.
A real federal government would realize that, gather information, and hold that state to account (for example, take out an oligarch or two connected to the ruling regime).
Ours, on the other hand, will do exactly what that foreign power wants: use this as an opportunity to foment even more racial and class division in our country.
The end of the republic is no longer coming. It’s here.

Ballgame!

[Trey3216 15346]

More beautiful video of people helping to cleanup after the destruction last night in Minneapolis:  black, white, Hispanic, Asian, and others, working side by side in solidarity of commmunity.  That’s the America I know and love. 

Edited May 30, 2020 by Trey3216

[GHOSTUSER 361]

46 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Understand that if a foreign state is fomenting violent action in our country, that’s an actual act of war.
A real federal government would realize that, gather information, and hold that state to account (for example, take out an oligarch or two connected to the ruling regime).
Ours, on the other hand, will do exactly what that foreign power wants: use this as an opportunity to foment even more racial and class division in our country.
The end of the republic is no longer coming. It’s here.

Tap the brakes on the end of the republic. We have had violent protests and riots throughout our history even during the best of times. Agree that if a foreign state is fomenting it is an act of war and anyone domestic dickhead trying to start another civil war should be summarily shot on the spot for treason.

Edited May 30, 2020 by Iconoclast Texan

[Covri 6249]

11 hours ago, Patricio Swayze said:

San Antonio might be the best city in Texas. Low key. Got dallas and Houston in a constant pissing match over who has the best strip malls. Austin trying to out hipster everyone in the country. San Antonio just hanging out being the same city for the past 200 years. Maybe El Paso is in the conversation...sitting on the sidelines thinking to itself “look at these fucking retards”.

Alamo trending on Twitter now for not good reasons. SA could be a shit show this evening. 

[Nicole44 22060]

Presser started.

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48 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Understand that if a foreign state is fomenting violent action in our country, that’s an actual act of war.
A real federal government would realize that, gather information, and hold that state to account (for example, take out an oligarch or two connected to the ruling regime).
Ours, on the other hand, will do exactly what that foreign power wants: use this as an opportunity to foment even more racial and class division in our country.
The end of the republic is no longer coming. It’s here.

Our country has done the same in other countries under both Repulican and Democratic presidents. 

[Nicole44 22060]

Presser: historic indigenous landmarks as well as libraries destroyed last night. Infrastructure for delivering meals destroyed. These people are not us. Governor said don’t listen to me. Listen to these civil rights leaders about to speak. 

[George 493]

This bitch is in the klan!

[GotThatFire 166]

17 minutes ago, Trey3216 said:

More beautiful video of people helping to cleanup after the destruction last night in Minneapolis:  black, white, Hispanic, Asian, and others, working side by side in solidarity of commmunity.  That’s the America I know and love. 

I need that video. Got a link?

[Nicole44 22060]

Presser: So far it’s been the governor, lt. gov, and senator. All saying stay home tonite please. Don’t come out after curfew. The people being arrested so far (the majority of) are not from Minnesota. 

[alincoln 2376]

The cameras at our office which has been attacked indicate that the rioters in Columbus are generally 16-25 and mostly black and are basically riot partying.  

We’ve seen this before.  The actual protests devolve into riot parties the later it gets.  

[Nicole44 22060]

Presser: Attorney General. Why do we need your help abiding by curfew? People are out there trying to mix in with the crowd. These people do not have righteous and good motives. They have evil motives. They aren’t here for justice. They want nothing more than to stop the righteous protests in Floyd’s name. Please don’t be on street after 8. We need to separate you from bad people. 

[Bone3421 716]

I keep seeing this republic word being thrown around.

I thought we all knew by now we are an Oligarchy with corporate sponsors

[Nicole44 22060]

Presser: what does burning down arts etc...on the north side have to do with justice for Floyd. Please let National Guard have the streets after 8 pm.

reverend Dr Chavez Reynold: as a successful African American man I’ve felt the pain of this growing up. The systematic pain. He gets thru it by coming together and leaning and depending on power of God. 

[Trey3216 15346]

5 minutes ago, GotThatFire said:

I need that video. Got a link?

Let me find it.  Saw it live since I was flipping back and forth between CNN & Fox News.  

[hundredTT 578]

The translator at the press conference is...interesting. 

[MNLonghornFUKM 8817]

The translator at the press conference is...interesting. 

She’s the goat. I don’t watch any state govt stuff but since covid I often tune out what walz is saying and watch her

[Nicole44 22060]

1 minute ago, hundredTT said:

The translator at the press conference is...interesting. 

She’s awesome! Facial expressions alone. She’s in a sleeper cell (just kidding.)

[George 493]

These people aren’t really saying shit. All they’re concerned with is keeping people off the streets and giving the same ole lip service to change. Nothing will change and this will all happen again in another couple of years. 

[hundredTT 578]

Oh ya, she's really amazing at capturing the emotion, rather than just signing. Goat status warranted. 

[Nicole44 22060]

Latino leader: speaking for the Latino community. They were bringing tables and water and food and emergency kits and bandaids for people. She also saw people no one recognized as her neighbors or in any movement she has been apart of. Never saw them before. Has been part of many movements. Didn’t recognize them. Asking her community in Spanish to stay home tonite please

[Nicole44 22060]

Just now, hundredTT said:

Oh ya, she's really amazing at capturing the emotion, rather than just signing. Goat status warranted. 

She’s amazing! 

[Doc Sam Beckett 5793]

Translator needs a little Doc Beckett in her life 

[Johnny Sack 8397]

1 minute ago, George said:

These people aren’t really saying shit. All they’re concerned with is keeping people off the streets and giving the same ole lip service to change. Nothing will change and this will all happen again in another couple of years. 

What would you say?

[Nicole44 22060]

Geez the footage on CNN right now showing people coming to clean the destruction

[Hook1997 5363]

Great message during the press conference but you know who’s not watching this probably?  Most of the people who have been out late rioting and looting.  People saying Russia, antifa, white supremacist, China and who ever else and maybe a few are...  If you watch though it’s mostly kids 16-25 or so who are white and black.

[Johnny Sack 8397]

It disproportionately happens to blacks.  No doubt.  It also happens to other races plenty.  Those get little attention

I don’t know who Matt Walsh is.  I found this on another message board.  I am not endorsing his commentary on Michael Brown one bit.  Just wanted to show some videos you might not have seen. 

[Nicole44 22060]

1 minute ago, Hook1997 said:

Great message during the press conference but you know who’s not watching this probably?  Most of the people who have been out late rioting and looting.  People saying Russia, antifa, white supremacist, China and who ever else and maybe a few are...  If you watch though it’s mostly kids 16-25 or so who are white and black.

It also tells me that the hotspots will be elsewhere tonite. Minnesota mobilized their entire NG tonite. Other places will be fair game. But that’s obvious. 
they are not saying all white people. They are saying people they have never seen before which also includes young people of  mostly white and black persuasion having a riot party. 
 

all of those arrested that destroyed shit should have to fucking clean it the fuck up. 

[Nicole44 22060]

Liquor stores were looted first. Then distributed the liquor to everyone who was there. Intoxicated fuckers helping to confuse and make things worse. Community activists saying they haven’t seen anything like this shit. The tactics. 

Edited May 30, 2020 by Nicole44
Paraphrasing what was said not moo.

[SDG 3319]

4 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

It disproportionately happens to blacks.  No doubt.  It also happens to other races plenty.  Those get little attention

 

I don’t know who Matt Walsh is.  I found this on another message board.  I am not endorsing his commentary on Michael Brown one bit.  Just wanted to show some videos you might not have seen. 

That’s always been my stance. Police brutality happens to all races (though I believe black and brown are over targeted). We need to change our policing back to a “serve and protect” mentality from the us vs them mentality it’s devolved to.   

[clapclapclap 9000]

 

For those doubting whether the governor's rough estimate of 80% of the riot (not protest) instigators being outsiders is anywhere close to accurate, Minn.St.Paul was the first outbreak of protest, so that is where the troublemakers would head first.  It's the symbolic location, where the murder took place.  The percent (at least for now) in the other riots is probably lower, though likely most have some of that outside element.

 

"The situation in Minneapolis is no longer in any way about the murder of George Floyd, it is about attacking civil society, instilling fear, and disrupting our great cities," Walz said.

“As you saw this expand across the US and you start to see whether it be domestic terrorism, whether it be ideological extremist to fan the flames of the group, or whether it be international destabilization of how our country works, these elements are present in all of this.”

He didn't outright call it domestic terrorism yet, but the governor has used the term several times in today's news conferences, and describing the damage as worse than many previous terror attacks.

 

There are several reasons why they are repeatedly mentioning certain types of groups, like white supremacists, the cartels, and Russia, while not mentioning other groups (like Antifa.)  Among them are:

1.  They think/have intelligence that all those mentioned groups are playing a part.  The gov. said he's been working with the NSA.

2.  They are trying to convince as many as possible of the local protesters, hipsters, thrill seekers, and opportunists to back away from continued mob-sized protesting/rioting the next few days.  Stay home tonight so that security forces are not overwhelmed and don't allow the instigators to create innocent martyrs.  Most of those the gov. is appealing to are on the left, so they are focusing on the groups they hate, the ones they wouldn't want to assist.  It's kind of like the "Don't rush out and buy up all the masks (cause our first responders will need them), masks won't really help you avoid Covid" strategy.  May not be completely accurate, but they have an immediate urgent need and are tailoring a message to try and get the most compliance.   Mentioning/focusing on Antifa at the moment isn't going to help that.

While I think white supremacists and foreign/cartel elements (they at times overlap) are probably involved, I doubt they are the sole or even a majority of the 'foot soldiers.'  Anarchists/radical leftists are almost surely also a big part, as they have been in previous large scale and multi-city riots/unrests.  I doubt Unicorn Riot and Woke TV are simply white supremacist efforts.   Lots of opportunistic scumbags with competing agendas taking advantage of a situation (the enemy of my enemy is my friend.)

3.  Politics.  The attorney general of MN is a former congressman and Deputy Chair of the Democrat National Committee, who has been in the past tweeted support of Antifa (I'll let others judge elsewhere if it was strong support or just lip-service pandering to grass root elements.)  So there may be different officials from different backgrounds pushing to highlight only certain elements or the other side from a mix of troublemaking groups.

 

Meanwhile, locals are counter organizing to protect, as the governor earlier encouraged:

 

 

Edited May 30, 2020 by clapclapclap

[Hook1997 5363]

4 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

Liquor stores were looted first. Then distributed the liquor to everyone who was there. Intoxicated fuckers helping to confuse and make things worse. Community activists saying they haven’t seen anything like this shit. The tactics. 

Every riot that’s ever happened called and they are calling bs.  This happens every time it’s not a huge pre planned thing lol.

[TornACL 7698]

5 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

 don’t know who Matt Walsh is.  I found this on another message board.  I am not endorsing his commentary on Michael Brown one bit.  Just wanted to show some videos you might not have seen. 

I am not sure how much you pay attention, but this board has been mighty consistent about discussing in depth any cases of police brutality or murder. Particularly the Shaver case.

Let's not play the stupid game where we claim that "nobody talks about" cases where whites were murdered by cops. 

The important thing to note is that, whether the victim is black or white, nothing is ever done to cut this cancer out of our society.

Fuck the police. 

 

[Nicole44 22060]

I think anyone watching any of the riot footage can see with their own eyes what was happening and who was there. That’s indisputable. Naturally, as with every other fucking thing, who did what and why will be politicized as all politicians have motives. We all know politics is perception and pretty much every elected leader I can think of seeks to control that perception. 
 

What is clear is that the type of destruction that happened to the small businesses and libraries and museums and minority owned businesses is beyond comprehension. They just set the post office on fire in Minnesota. For fucks sake. 

Edited May 30, 2020 by Nicole44

[Johnny Sack 8397]

1 minute ago, TornACL said:

I am not sure how much you pay attention, but this board has been mighty consistent about discussing in depth any cases of police brutality or murder. Particularly the Shaver case.

Let's not play the stupid game where we claim that "nobody talks about" cases where whites were murdered by cops. 

The important thing to note is that, whether the victim is black or white, nothing is ever done to cut this cancer out of our society.

Fuck the police. 

 

I honestly missed it.  But I can assure you more Americans know about Floyd and Michael Brown than they do about Shaver.  By a factor of 1,000. 

police brutality is an issue that affects blacks the most.  But it isn’t exclusive.  

[clapclapclap 9000]

Ignore the inflammatory keywords, it's all about the slapstick:

 

 

Edited May 30, 2020 by clapclapclap

[RDCanecutter 26446]

2 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

What is clear is that the type of destruction that happened to the small businesses and libraries and museums and minority owned businesses is beyond comprehension. They just set the post office on fire in Minnesota. For fucks sake. 

Well, at least we aren't in the middle of a plague or a depression. Those business should pop right back up. I know if somebody burned my store, the first thing I'd do with my rapid, efficient, and no-red-tape insurance payout would be to reopen right where some of the (not arrested, in-state) looters still live.

[CooterBrown 18014]

The end of the republic is no longer coming. It’s here.

A few years ago, I would’ve thought that’s a bad thing. Nowadays, all I think is that we’ve earned it.

[Nicole44 22060]

AG Barr just now: still doing their own investigation into George Floyd’s death/murder. Their  investigation is ongoing and separate from Minnesota charges and investigation. Federal crime to cross state lines to promote or induce rioting. Will enforce laws on this. Anarchists and extreme left groups and outside forces from outside of certain states causing the riots and destruction. Using Antifa like tactics.
 

just paraphrasing what he said. He took no questions. 

Edited May 30, 2020 by Nicole44

[Trey3216 15346]

5 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

Well, at least we aren't in the middle of a plague or a depression. Those business should pop right back up. I know if somebody burned my store, the first thing I'd do with my rapid, efficient, and no-red-tape insurance payout would be to reopen right where some of the (not arrested, in-state) looters still live.

Except there’s a good chance your not getting that insurance check, as insurance doesn’t typically pay out for instances of terrorism 

[TornACL 7698]

6 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

I honestly missed it.  But I can assure you more Americans know about Floyd and Michael Brown than they do about Shaver.  By a factor of 1,000. 

Because people took to the streets and rioted over those cases. So good for them. There should have been riots over the Shaver case, too. But white people haven't been victimized for 400 years so instead we just post angry shit on the internet, I'm sorry to say. 

I am fine with a social trade in which unlawful police murders are met with days of property destruction. At some point, city leaders and those higher up will be forced to make the decision that the police and their unions need to be neutered. It's just too costly to continue to do nothing. 

Nothing else has ever worked. The state of our police forces in this country is beyond a crisis. It is a national cancer. We're at this point due to decades of cronyism and inaction, and so these drastic steps are needed. Let the cities burn. 

 

[RDCanecutter 26446]

5 minutes ago, Trey3216 said:

Except there’s a good chance your not getting that insurance check, as insurance doesn’t typically pay out for instances of terrorism 

I say I say turn your irony meter on son.

[Nicole44 22060]

Well, cities are likely gonna burn tonite...

[washparkhorn 9939]

https://theconversation.com/riot-or-resistance-how-media-frames-unrest-in-minneapolis-will-shape-publics-view-of-protest-139713

Riot or resistance? How media frames unrest in Minneapolis will shape public’s view of protest

TLDR - 

The general public’s opinions about protests and the social movements behind them are formed in large part by what they read or see in the media. This gives journalists a lot of power when it comes to driving the narrative of a demonstration. They can emphasize the disruption protests cause or echo the dog whistles of politicians that label protesters as “thugs.” But they can also remind the public that at the heart of the protests is the unjust killing of another black person. This would take the emphasis away from the destruction of the protests and toward the issues of police impunity and the effects of racism in its many forms.

The role journalists play can be indispensable if movements are to gain legitimacy and make progress. And that puts a lot of pressure on journalists to get things right. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Riot or resistance? How media frames unrest in Minneapolis will shape public’s view of protest

Danielle K. Kilgo May 29, 2020 3.04pm EDT

A teenager held her phone steady enough to capture the final moments of George Perry Floyd’s life as he apparently suffocated under the weight of a Minneapolis police officer’s knee on his neck. The video went viral.

What happened next has played out time and again in American citiesafter high-profile cases of alleged police brutality.

Vigils and protests were organized in Minneapolis and around the United States to demand police accountability. But while investigators and officials called for patience, unrest boiled over. News reports soon carried images of property destruction and police in riot gear.

The general public’s opinions about protests and the social movements behind them are formed in large part by what they read or see in the media. This gives journalists a lot of power when it comes to driving the narrative of a demonstration.

They can emphasize the disruption protests cause or echo the dog whistles of politicians that label protesters as “thugs.” But they can also remind the public that at the heart of the protests is the unjust killing of another black person. This would take the emphasis away from the destruction of the protests and toward the issues of police impunity and the effects of racism in its many forms.

The role journalists play can be indispensable if movements are to gain legitimacy and make progress. And that puts a lot of pressure on journalists to get things right. 

My research has found that some protest movements have more trouble than others getting legitimacy. My co-author Summer Harlow and I have studied how local and metropolitan newspapers cover protests. We found that narratives about the Women’s March and anti-Trump protests gave voice to protesters and significantly explored their grievances. On the other end of the spectrum, protests about anti-black racism and indigenous people’s rights received the least legitimizing coverage, with them more often seen as threatening and violent.

Forming the narrative

Decades ago, scholars James Hertog and Douglas McLeod identified how news coverage of protests contributes to the maintenance of the status quo, a phenomenon referred to as “the protest paradigm.” They held that media narratives tend to emphasize the drama, inconvenience and disruption of protests rather than the demands, grievances and agendas of protesters. These narratives trivialize protests and ultimately dent public support. 

Here’s how this theoretically plays out today: 

Journalists pay little attention to protests that aren’t dramatic or unconventional. 

Knowing this, protesters find ways to capture media and public attention. They don pink “pussy” hats or kneel during the national anthem. They might even resort to violence and lawlessness. Now the protesters have the media’s attention, but what they cover is often superficial or delegitimizing, focusing on the tactics and disruption caused and excluding discussion on the substance of the social movement.

We wanted to explore if this classic theory fit coverage from 2017 – a year of large-scale protests accompanying the first year of Donald Trump’s presidency.

To do so, we analyzed the framing of protest reporting from newspapers in Texas. The state’s size and diversity made it a good proxy for the country at large.

In all, we identified 777 articles by searching for terms such as “protest,” “protester,” “Black Lives Matter” and “Women’s March.” This included reports written by journalists in 20 Texas newsrooms, such as the El Paso Times and the Houston Chronicle, as well as syndicated articles from sources like the Associated Press. 

We looked at how articles framed the protests in the headline, opening sentence and story structure, and classified the reporting using four recognized frames of protest:

Riot: Emphasizing disruptive behavior and the use or threat of violence.

Confrontation: Describing protests as combative, focusing on arrests or “clashes” with police.

Spectacle: Focusing on the apparel, signs or dramatic and emotional behavior of protesters.

Debate: Substantially mentioning protester’s demands, agendas, goals and grievances.

We also kept an eye out for sourcing patterns to identify imbalances that often give more credence to authorities than protesters and advocates.

Overall, news coverage tended to trivialize protests by focusing most often on dramatic action. But some protests suffered more than others. 

Reports focused on spectacle more often than substance. Much was made of what protesters were wearing, crowd sizes – large and small – celebrity involvement and flaring tempers. 

The substance of some marches got more play than others. Around half of the reports on anti-Trump protests, immigration rallies, women’s rights demonstrations and environmental actions included substantial information about protesters’ grievances and demands.

In contrast, Dakota Pipeline and anti-black racism-related protests got legitimizing coverage less than 25% of the time and were more likely to be described as disruptive and confrontational.

In coverage of a St. Louis protest over the acquittal of a police officer who killed a black man, violence, arrest, unrest and disruption were the leading descriptors, while concern about police brutality and racial injustice was reduced to just a few mentions. Buried more than 10 paragraphs down was the broader context: “The recent St. Louis protests follow a pattern seen since the August 2014 killing of Michael Brown in nearby Ferguson: the majority of demonstrators, though angry, are law-abiding.”

As a consequence of variances in coverage, Texas newspaper readers may form the perception that some protests are more legitimate than others. This contributes to what we call a “hierarchy of social struggle,” in which the voices of some advocacy groups are lifted over others.

Lurking bias

Journalists contribute to this hierarchy by adhering to industry norms that work against less-established protest movements. On tight deadlines, reporters may default to official sources for statements and data. This gives authorities more control of narrative framing. This practice especially becomes an issue for movements like Black Lives Matter that are countering the claims of police and other officials. 

Implicit bias also lurks in such reporting. Lack of diversity has long plagued newsrooms. 

In 2017, the proportion of white journalists at The Dallas Morning News and the Houston Chronicle was more than double the proportion of white people in each city. 

Protests identify legitimate grievances in society and often tackle issues that affect people who lack the power to address them through other means. That’s why it is imperative that journalists do not resort to shallow framing narratives that deny significant and consistent space to air the afflicted’s concerns while also comforting the very comfortable status quo. 

 

 

[CHIEF 5091]

This is just sad and gut wrenching:

CHIEF

[clapclapclap 9000]

Woman with 'trauma visible' found dead in car in middle of north Minneapolis street

A woman was found dead in a car in north Minneapolis early Friday with visible signs of trauma, authorities said.

A motorist flagged down a police squad vehicle about 3:15 a.m. and led the patrol to near N. 17th and Bryant avenues, where a car was stopped in the middle of the street, police said.

In the back seat was a woman, believed to be in her 30s, according to police.

“There was trauma visible on the decedent’s body, so a suspicious death investigation was initiated,” a statement from police read.

Circumstances surrounding her death and her identity have not been disclosed....(snip)

 

 

Security Officers Gunned Down At Oakland Federal Building; One Dead, One Wounded

...In a statement to KPIX 5 the FBI said the incident occurred at around 9:45 p.m.

“A vehicle approached the building,” the statement read. “An individual inside the vehicle began firing shots at contracted security officers for the Federal Protection Service of the Department of Homeland Security. One officer was killed and another injured.”

The Oakland police tweeted Friday night that they did not believe the shooting was related to the violence that would later break out on the nearby streets during a demonstration sparked by the police custody death of George Floyd in Minneapolis.

In an email to KPIX 5 early Saturday, Oakland police spokeswoman Johnna Watson could not confirmed the tweet – “Still under investigation, unknown if related...”

 

...Video show windows shattered at the main entrance to the facility and large presence of federal law enforcement officials around the building.

Bullet holes were also seen at the guardhouse behind 12th St. and Jefferson St....

Edited May 30, 2020 by clapclapclap

[MissingInAction 25103]

Just returned from the Austin protests. I must say the police were civil. They allowed people to scream Fuck the Police right in their faces on the steps of APD hq.

Then they blocked off the upper deck of 35 while we marched across.

Things may have changed since I left, but it was an incredible experience I'll never forget.

[Coelenterate Fuccboi 13100]

1 minute ago, MissingInAction said:

Just returned from the Austin protests. I must say the police were civil. They allowed people to scream Fuck the Police right in their faces on the steps of APD hq.

Then they blocked off the upper deck of 35 while we marched across.

Things may have changed since I left, but it was an incredible experience I'll never forget.

Let us know when you get the COVID.