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Holy fuck go to the cloak room you morons. Go cast your vote for the Blue Team, I’m sure that will solve everything! Yay!
 

I’m sure you all would still be 100% supportive if these “protestors” were burning down your business or threatening your family directly. Right? RIGHT????

FUCK. your. feelings.

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16 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Most employees are not allowed to protest while they are at work.  Players can and do engage in political activity when not in uniform and off the clock.  Why is that distinction so difficult for some?

I think the point goes beyond the ability to protest at work. The NFL doesn't give a rat's ass if you stand for the national anthem, but they do give a rat's ass about getting Joe Coalminer in Podunk West Virginia to watch their games and buy their products. The NFL decides that they're losing too much money over this and he is blackballed. I'm not upset at the NFL (though like the NBA and China it would be nice to show some backbone), but rather at society at large who refuses to understand what the protest is about and the feelings behind it. They're the ones calling for Kap to be fired and the reason he's no longer in the NFL. The intricies of the law with regards to 1st amendment protection don't apply to that.

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5 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

they should not leverage the most powerful platform they have to affect change. got it.

That's right.  They should not.  How would you feel if they wore Make America Great Again hats in the post-game interview?

Keep divisive political actions for when you're not in uniform.  Lebron tweets all sorts of political stuff.  Much of which I disagree with.  But he does it with his massive twitter following which is his.  Good for him.

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I think the point goes beyond the ability to protest at work. The NFL doesn't give a rat's ass if you stand for the national anthem, but they do give a rat's ass about getting Joe Coalminer in Podunk West Virginia to watch their games and buy their products. The NFL decides that they're losing too much money over this and he is blackballed. I'm not upsetat the NFL (though like the NBA and China it would be nice to show some backbone), but rather at society at large who refuses to understand what the protest is about and the feelings behind it. They're the ones calling for Kap to be fired and the reason he's no longer in the NFL. The intricies of the law with regards to 1st amendment protection don't apply to that.

Correct. The onus really was on the nfl for not nipping it in the bud and saying immediately that he couldnt do that

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1 minute ago, Johnny Sack said:

That's right.  They should not.  How would you feel if they wore Make America Great Again hats in the post-game interview?

If that happened, I'd feel okay with Colin being called "an idiot", which he was.  

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FFS.  The president was urging that he be fired.  The VP went on that taxpayer paid stunt.  And the GOP riled up their base about the protest.  Without ever once taking the slightest step to address what Kaepernick was protesting.  Actually, they gutted the DOJ Civil Rights Division at the same time.  Regardless of what should or should not be done during work hours, the people in charge made clear that they were trying to silence the protests and that they didn't give a flying fuck about police killing black men.

And then they pretend to be shocked when something more violent erupts.

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y'all are missing the forest for the trees.  the issue was not workplace rules.  the issue is that the whole of the country -- not his employers -- told him to shut the fuck up, called him a traitor, refused to look into the issues he (and 1000 people before him) says are going on.  when that is the country's reaction to pointing out inequality, don't be surprised that people revert to other ways to point it out.

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16 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

Wait, so people can't tell them how they feel about his speech? 

The question is was there anything legally done to him?

No dumbass.  Liberty means you get to do what you want, and everyone else must grant you an audience.

He was Never prosecuted by any legal entity.  He wasn’t guaranteed

 

a platform for his grievances at work.  Boo fucking hooo.

 

The motherfuckers who want to conflate Kaepernick’s idiocy with what’s wrong in Minnesota ( our society) are willfully ignoring the Che shirts, saying the freedom in the anthem didn’t apply to him( it absolutely did,) and other bullshit ole SJW brought to the party.
 

Kaep can go fuck himself. People need to stop misremembering how things went down.

 

Cops need to be accountable. Period.  So do their superiors.

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Black people:

Can’t vote without heavy restrictions put in place by government apparatus (Voter ID,  closing polling places in minority areas, “intimidation” tactics) 

Cant peacefully protest (Kap)

Cant protest any other way (shoot the thugs!)

Get murdered by an arm of the government without consequence 


Can some people just come out and admit they are only here for your sports, music and movie/tv entertainment and not seen as equals?  Because this is tiring. All men created equal, my ass

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Saying nothing was done legally to Kaep is intellectual dishonesty at it's best. He was railroaded out of his career for it, illegally I might add. There's literally zero chance a white player protesting something in the same manner gets the same treatment.

But hey, keep fucking that chicken.

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2 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

y'all are missing the forest for the trees.  the issue was not workplace rules.  the issue is that the whole of the country -- not his employers -- told him to shut the fuck up, called him a traitor, refused to look into the issues he (and 1000 people before him) says are going on.  when that is the country's reaction to pointing out inequality, don't be surprised that people revert to other ways to point it out.

Lebron does and says more than Kap ever did.  He just does it on his twitter and not at work.  Notice how he still has a job.  So do hundreds if not thousands of other athletes.  Lebron urging people to vote for Obama or support a certain referendum on twitter probably does bother plenty of people.  But there would be a shitstorm equal to or exceeding Kaepernick if he did it on the court.

Try advocating politics in your workplace to your customers.  For most people, it's a non starter.

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14 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Standing for the national anthem is not political.  It is standing for the anthem and is not controversial for any of the paying customers.

If Tim Tebow started kneeling to protest the 50 million or so abortions done in this country since Roe, that would also be political and should not be done in uniform.

Bottom line is the employer gets to decide.  And most employers do not want their employees engaging in political activity while in uniform.  Whether that cause is left or right.

If standing for that national anthem is not political, why is it done? Just because something is not controversial for any of the paying customers does not make it not political. For crying out loud, it is claiming allegiance to our country which is, by definition, a political entity. You can't possibly claim that it is not inherently political unless there is some other utility. Does it help the performance of the athletes? Does it give extra time to coaches to game plan? For the refs to huddle and make sure they are up on rules?

I do agree that employer generally gets to decide on player displays of political activity, but I also think that employers generally don't require displays of political allegiance. If my employer required me to sing to the national anthem at the beginning of my work day, I damn sure would think of that as a political statement. Hell, if it's not political and paying customers agree with it, why is this not generally accepted practice in every industry?

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Saying nothing was done legally to Kaep is intellectual dishonesty at it's best. He was railroaded out of his career for it, illegally I might add. There's literally zero chance a white player protesting something in the same manner gets the same treatment.

But hey, keep fucking that chicken.

No. He sucked at his job and tried to use a political protest to stay employed. There's a reason no NFL team would touch him with a 10 foot pole.

But hey, keep fucking that chicken.

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FFS.  The president was urging that he be fired.  The VP went on that taxpayer paid stunt.  And the GOP riled up their base about the protest.  Without ever once taking the slightest step to address what Kaepernick was protesting.  Actually, they gutted the DOJ Civil Rights Division at the same time.  Regardless of what should or should not be done during work hours, the people in charge made clear that they were trying to silence the protests and that they didn't give a flying fuck about police killing black men.

And then they pretend to be shocked when something more violent erupts.

 

8 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

y'all are missing the forest for the trees.  the issue was not workplace rules.  the issue is that the whole of the country -- not his employers -- told him to shut the fuck up, called him a traitor, refused to look into the issues he (and 1000 people before him) says are going on.  when that is the country's reaction to pointing out inequality, don't be surprised that people revert to other ways to point it out.

These.

Again, not only did America not listen to what Kap had to say....we actively worked against it.

Peaceful protests have been tried.  They didn't just fail -- they were attacked as treasonous and unpatriotic, and the response from American leadership was to actively work AGAINST the cause being spoken of.

And do we have to get into the OTHER times that black leaders have peacefully spoken out about police violence?  The first and loudest responses, including from the governing class, is ALWAYS "shut up, why don't you work on black-on-black violence?  Huh?  Fix that first, and then we might listen to you."

So, minorities now know how peaceful protests are responded to.  You think they should keep trying?  It's like a battered spouse, who tries to talk it out with her abuser.  When he responds to her pleas every single time by calling her an ungrateful bitch and punching her in the jaw again....she's eventually going to pull out a .38 and shoot the fucker.

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Saying nothing was done legally to Kaep is intellectual dishonesty at it's best. He was railroaded out of his career for it, illegally I might add. There's literally zero chance a white player protesting something in the same manner gets the same treatment.

But hey, keep fucking that chicken.

John Rocker lost his career and was suspended for an interview where he expressed his racist thoughts during the offseason.  Was that illegal?

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3 minutes ago, stone oak said:

Kaepernick sucked at football which is why he doesn't play for any NFL team. Has jack shit to do with anything else.

This is also bullshit. He's no Tom Brady but he was easily good enough to play in the NFL and likely still would be today.

He's just not good enough to deal with the political fallout that would result from hiring him.

But hey, keep fucking that chicken.

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The NFL found out, the hard way, what other powerful institutions in our nation understand.....there is a sub-demographic of people in this nation that have to be catered to, tip-toed around, if you will.  They have disposable cash, disposable time, platforms to whine on, and you have to play attention to their idiotic issues of the day because they pout like children...but their pouting involves missed sales, missed votes, and they like to talk about their stockpile.  

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NFL talk not going away. Funny how johhny dogwhistle shows up to badmouth the uppity football player but is nowhere to be seen regarding the police murderers.

Shout out to @Gap03 for putting some datapoints on together on the local cops in Minneapolis

Fun fact that hadn't dawned on me until now - each of George Floyd (2020), Philando Castile (2016) and Justine Damond (2017) were killed by MPD officers in area about 10 miles in diameter:

 Map of Recent MPD Killings

Just spitballing here, but they may have a bit of a culture problem at the MPD.

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31 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Most employees are not allowed to protest while they are at work.  Players can and do engage in political activity when not in uniform and off the clock.  Why is that distinction so difficult for some?

Dammit man, the distinction is not difficult. But the problem is that it's 31 years after the fact and white people are by and large still discussing why Mookie threw the trash can through the window of Sal's Famous instead of why Radio Raheem had to die.

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2 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

John Rocker lost his career and was suspended for an interview where he expressed his racist thoughts during the offseason.  Was that illegal?

Kaep getting fired wasn't illegal, the subsequent collusion keeping him out of the league entirely was, hence the lawsuit the NFL had to settle.

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No dumbass.  Liberty means you get to do what you want, and everyone else must grant you an audience.

He was Never prosecuted by any legal entity.  He wasn’t guaranteed

 

a platform for his grievances at work.  Boo fucking hooo.

 

The motherfuckers who want to conflate Kaepernick’s idiocy with what’s wrong in Minnesota ( our society) are willfully ignoring the Che shirts, saying the freedom in the anthem didn’t apply to him( it absolutely did,) and other bullshit ole SJW brought to the party.
 

Kaep can go fuck himself. People need to stop misremembering how things went down.

 

Cops need to be accountable. Period.  So do their superiors.

People are complex and layered and one Che shirt doesn't ruin a cause. When a large % of a specific subset of society feels that freedom in the anthem doesn't apply to them then maybe we should take a look at why they feel that way instead of talking down to them about how great this country is and how they should shut up?

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1 minute ago, Captainant said:

NFL talk not going away. Funny how johhny dogwhistle shows up to badmouth the uppity football player but is nowhere to be seen regarding the police murderers.

Shout out to @Gap03 for putting some datapoints on together on the local cops in Minneapolis

Fun fact that hadn't dawned on me until now - each of George Floyd (2020), Philando Castile (2016) and Justine Damond (2017) were killed by MPD officers in area about 10 miles in diameter:

 Map of Recent MPD Killings

Just spitballing here, but they may have a bit of a culture problem at the MPD.

Fuck you mother fucker I called this murder early on and heavily criticized the cops.  What more is there to say about it?  They murdered an innocent man and should spend much if not all of their life in prison.

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10 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

This is also bullshit. He's no Tom Brady but he was easily good enough to play in the NFL and likely still would be today.

He's just not good enough to deal with the political fallout that would result from hiring him.

But hey, keep fucking that chicken.

 

 

bullshit, he was given another opportunity to showcase that he could still play and made a circus out of it, fuck him

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Get rid of white people and the percentage of school shootings goes down, what, more than half?

Yes.  Also a fact.  Does not make you racist.  If I was out there only complaining and protesting against people of color doing school shootings, I would probably be a racist.  Right?

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37 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Players should be more politically engaged.  They should do it when they aren't on the clock though.  Just like virtually every job in existence everywhere outside of politics or media opinion stuff. 

 

Sports arent' like any other job. Stop acting like it is.

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2 hours ago, SDG said:

It’s a slippery fucking slope that always ends up exactly how the Covid thread did...  so for “fuck sake” use the appropriate thread...
 

Covid is a horrible parallel because literally everything about it except the fucking virus itself is political.   Police brutality and the lack of justice ever given to the perpetrators is however not.  Obviously the response to the protests is clearly political but that's a subset of the overall issue.  With Covid there was never any chance for a non-political thread.  None.

 

38 minutes ago, Captainant said:

You uh... know the president was openly advocating to get Kaepernick fired because of his peaceful protest?. "Get that son of a bitch off the field right now. Out! He’s fired" ring any bells?

Oh noes you are CRing the thread!

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17 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Lebron does and says more than Kap ever did.  He just does it on his twitter and not at work.  Notice how he still has a job.  So do hundreds if not thousands of other athletes.  Lebron urging people to vote for Obama or support a certain referendum on twitter probably does bother plenty of people.  But there would be a shitstorm equal to or exceeding Kaepernick if he did it on the court.

Try advocating politics in your workplace to your customers.  For most people, it's a non starter.

I have to put up with MAGA bullshit all day every day at my workplace.  Nothing happens to those assholes.

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