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Again from the presser:

we will start naming names of the people we believe are doing this—escalating the violence and destruction. Said need media’s help. It is a variety of groups including white supremacists. 80% of people who committed the violent acts are from outside the state of Minnesota. Both mayors said this along with other officials. The National Guard group being brought in will be unprecedented. Expecting it to be about 2000 or so. 
 

Possible Russian groups as well exploiting the protests. Will have another presser at noon with civil rights leaders. Said they have a damn good idea that the violence is being carried out by people who’s mission is not aligned with those outraged and upset by Floyd’s death and protesting that. 

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1 minute ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Why? The boogaloo is about starting a civil war, not supporting law and order or power structures. It's burn-it-downism in pure form. 

That seems more like anarchists.

Just seemed to me white power groups would be celebrating scoreboard with the murder of a black man by the po-po's.

 

None of them have anything constructive or positive for our nation, but they are enabled by our unwillingness to hold people accountable.

 

 

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A study led by Michigan State University psychology professor Joseph Cesario, published on July 22, found that violent crime rates and the racial demographics of a given location are better indicators for determining a police killing victim’s race.

As Cesario explained in a press release:

“Many people ask whether black or white citizens are more likely to be shot and why. If you live in a county that has a lot of white people committing crimes, white people are more likely to be shot. If you live in a county that has a lot of black people committing crimes, black people are more likely to be shot.“

Here’s the 2018 breakdown of the 995 people shot and killed by the police.

403 were white, 210 were black, 148 were Hispanic, 38 were classified as other, and 199 were classified as unknown.

Out of that 995, 47 were unarmed — 23 were white, 17 were black, 5 were Hispanic, and 2 were unknown.

Out of the 30-50 million interactions that the police had with the American public last year, 10 million people were arrested, and less than 0.01 percent were shot and killed by the police. Out of those 10 million people arrested, 47 of those shot and killed were unarmed, which equates to 0.00047 percent, 17 of which were black.

https://msutoday.msu.edu/news/2019/the-truth-behind-racial-disparities-in-fatal-police-shootings/

I will also state my opinion that not all shootings where the victim is unarmed are unjustified.  Cop tells you to freeze and you reach in your coat, that could be justified.  Or if you are fleeing a violent felony.  Or if you go for the cop's weapon.

 

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More press briefings to come from leaders of other states obviously today. 
“There is clearly from intelligence information an attempt to distract from the Floyd tragedy and to undermine the efforts. Pay attention to who is around you. They aren’t there for the same reason as you. If you are from the community you will see that there are many around you not there for the right reasons and not from your community.” 

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1 minute ago, Iceman said:

That seems more like anarchists.

Just seemed to me white power groups would be celebrating scoreboard with the murder of a black man by the po-po's.

 

None of them have anything constructive or positive for our nation, but they are enabled by our unwillingness to hold people accountable.

 

 

I hear you, but it's bigger than that. The goal is to create violent chaos in order to force people to take sides. There are also indications that our global adversaries are working to promote it as well, as they did in 2015-16. 

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Just now, Bozo_Casanova said:

I hear you, but it's bigger than that. The goal is to create violent chaos in order to force people to take sides. There are also indications that our global adversaries are working to promote it as well, as they did in 2015-16. 


I would add that this is exactly how Russians operate. 
As a cultural rule, when a Russian fucks you over it usually when you’ve already fucked yourself. They just gently help tip you over the cliff then act shocked. 
 

also, words that I was told by a Soviet officer when I was a kid and they have never failed me: If a Russian is smiling at you, you have been or are about to be swindled. 

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I think there are many outside groups that are acting as agitators.  White supremacists,  Antifa, Black lives matter,  etc.  Unfortunately we have politicians and media that will only talk about what fits their agendas.  

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8 minutes ago, leaf said:

I think there are many outside groups that are acting as agitators.  White supremacists,  Antifa, Black lives matter,  etc.  Unfortunately we have politicians and media that will only talk about what fits their agendas.  

You are mistaken if you don’t think Russians are involved at this vet moment 

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27 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

Would love to see them start naming names and posting pictures. Good for them!

1234.   Want to see mugshots and names and where they are from.

And honestly, it would not surprise me.   There’s a shitload of them online openly hoping this stuff ramps up.

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Presser from Minny government on CNN right now: Governor and other leaders saying that white supremacists are part of the group now destroying businesses etc. asking for media’s help to trace the groups of people coming from outside of Minnesota. Saying that roughly 80% of those destroying businesses etc...since Wednesday night particularly Thursday night and last night were out of state. Said of those that are arrested so far you would be able to see that they are groups and not from the state. Coming from elsewhere. 

I hope we see rubber bullets fly tonight. Fuck these shit stains and whatever hole they crawled out of

 

 

And after they’re shot the ass, slap them with a 10,000 fine that’ll go towards clean up

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13 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Ok, if they’re white supremacists, then no one should shed a tear over shooting them in the head when they’re looting and setting shit on fire.

And the same if they’re ANTIFA and other anarchy types. 

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I'm a little puzzled at the outrage at the disruption all the sudden, as if ' only the home team is allowed to tear our shit up.'

How the fuck is LE or Natty Guard supposed to determine who is justifiably pissed and who is deliberately fucking shit up?  The good guys have a T'Wolves cap on and the bullet catchers are wearing Cincinnati gear?

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3 minutes ago, Iceman said:

I'm a little puzzled at the outrage at the disruption all the sudden, as if ' only the home team is allowed to tear our shit up.'

How the fuck is LE or Natty Guard supposed to determine who is justifiably pissed and who is deliberately fucking shit up?  The good guys have a T'Wolves cap on and the bullet catchers are wearing Cincinnati gear?

I think the point is that most of the time the home team has a vested interest thus choose to protest instead or resorting to rioting/looting.   

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4 minutes ago, Iceman said:

I'm a little puzzled at the outrage at the disruption all the sudden, as if ' only the home team is allowed to tear our shit up.'

How the fuck is LE or Natty Guard supposed to determine who is justifiably pissed and who is deliberately fucking shit up?  The good guys have a T'Wolves cap on and the bullet catchers are wearing Cincinnati gear?

Because they are the agitators who are escalating the situation.

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10 hours ago, Helobious said:

One of the most riot-proof cities in the country IMO. Mexicans haven’t rioted for shit since the Zoot suit riots in the 40s, and we weren’t even really the aggressors in that case.

The RGV is the most underrated part of Texas. Affordable housing, friendly people, hot Mexican chicks, Padre and a lot of investment opportunity. I’m a fan Harlingen Helob.

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4 minutes ago, VABuckeye said:

Because they are the agitators who are escalating the situation.

My question is this:  How are the alleged peace keepers to determine the difference at 1:30 AM in the mayhem?

 

I'm not defending them, to be clear; I'm asking how the fuck anyone can tell the difference without arresting or heaven forbid, shooting them.  Some people were posting as if it was possible just to stop the outsiders.

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Understand that if a foreign state is fomenting violent action in our country, that’s an actual act of war.
A real federal government would realize that, gather information, and hold that state to account (for example, take out an oligarch or two connected to the ruling regime).
Ours, on the other hand, will do exactly what that foreign power wants: use this as an opportunity to foment even more racial and class division in our country.
The end of the republic is no longer coming. It’s here.

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I'm a little puzzled at the outrage at the disruption all the sudden, as if ' only the home team is allowed to tear our shit up.'

How the fuck is LE or Natty Guard supposed to determine who is justifiably pissed and who is deliberately fucking shit up?  The good guys have a T'Wolves cap on and the bullet catchers are wearing Cincinnati gear?

there’s a curfew at 8PM and if the locals abide by it and go home, the shit stains have no crowd to run into and disappear as they light fires

 

 

But you should be shot for wearing a twolves hat tho regardless of residency

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I hear you, but it's bigger than that. The goal is to create violent chaos in order to force people to take sides. There are also indications that our global adversaries are working to promote it as well, as they did in 2015-16. 

And also, casual observers and even posters all over this site up until this morning have constantly equated “protesters” with “looters and arsonists”. To that end, the dickheads causing a lot of the damage know, CORRECTLY, that BLM and other Floyd protesters will be blamed by the public.

Glad to see a glimmer of hope that we may change some of that perception with this new info.
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If it's a combo of Antifa and white nationalists infiltrating Minneapolis to cause general mayhem, destroy things, and start a war between police and protestors where the majority of the dead will be black then that's just wild beyond words. I want to call BS but then you have the umbrella and gas mask white guy at the Autozone in broad daylight. Almost orchestrated. 

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6 minutes ago, Iceman said:

My question is this:  How are the alleged peace keepers to determine the difference at 1:30 AM in the mayhem?

 

I'm not defending them, to be clear; I'm asking how the fuck anyone can tell the difference without arresting or heaven forbid, shooting them.  Some people were posting as if it was possible just to stop the outsiders.

People screaming and yelling= likely protestors frustrated.  
 

people burning cities to the ground, pulling people out of their cars and beating them, looting stores and inciting violence = likely agitators. 

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2 minutes ago, GotThatFire said:

Shut down the news for a year or two and rebuild communities.

Perfect! Then cops can kill more people while the government robs us blind to enrich themselves and revoke our freedoms but this time, no one is around to snitch on them! 

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8 minutes ago, mdmost said:

If it's a combo of Antifa and white nationalists infiltrating Minneapolis to cause general mayhem, destroy things, and start a war between police and protestors where the majority of the dead will be black then that's just wild beyond words. I want to call BS but then you have the umbrella and gas mask white guy at the Autozone in broad daylight. Almost orchestrated. 

I wish the identity of the umbrella guy would have been exposed.  Also, beaten to a pulp.  White nationalist, Antifa, foreign agitator?  I've seen on YouTube that some have said he was a police office.  I don't believe this has been confirmed.

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5 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Perfect! Then cops can kill more people while the government robs us blind to enrich themselves and revoke our freedoms but this time, no one is around to snitch on them! 

The divisive national news outlets are a problem. People can live in relative peace and harmony, but watching this fucking news nonstop and going out and seeing your neighbor of a different race you don’t look at them the same. It’s disgusting and it’s exactly what they want, they should be shut down and checked. Local news has its purpose

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1 hour ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

But one would have missed the point if they did.

 

Because feelings, or do you have a reason to think he's wrong? The state capital protests a few weeks ago had a heavy boogaloo contingent. You don't think they see an opportunity here?

A couple things

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/05/they-want-their-civil-war-far-right-boogaloo-militants-embedded-themselves-in-the-george-floyd-protests-in-minneapolis/

https://www.bellingcat.com/news/2020/05/27/the-boogaloo-movement-is-not-what-you-think/
 

 

That’s some amazing reporting by Raw Story. Citing online posts from idiots does not equal what’s actually happening on the ground. My Bernie socialist loving friend posts shit on Facebook from Raw Story so I have read a bunch of shit from there. It makes Vox look like the NYT in comparison 

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16 minutes ago, GotThatFire said:

Shut down the news for a year or two and rebuild communities.

I know you’re half joking, but it’s the 1st amendment for a very important reason....  

the media should be more responsible but the market will dictate that.  

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I hope we see rubber bullets fly tonight. Fuck these shit stains and whatever hole they crawled out of
 
 
And after they’re shot the ass, slap them with a 10,000 fine that’ll go towards clean up

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Before anyone gets their panties in a wad I was joking then and now
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