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4 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

You do realize that these two did not just send Molotov Cocktails into the police car, right?  They were actively trying to get protesters involved and were trying to pass these out (no one took them).  What they attempted feels like incitement.

Yep - this little cunt was trying to pass out cocktails and get others to try and spread the damage and destruction.  

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3 minutes ago, Dr. Beeper said:

True. The guy makes a lot of good points on hyperbolic statements that get made. Sidebar - statistics are fascinating. You can frame something 2 ways and have it look favorable to your point, and unfavorable to your point. 

Lies.  Damn lies.  And statistics.....

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Yeahg, I'm drawing the line at having any semblence of compassion for the molatov cocktail duo. 
I have compassion for him, and I get that he was undeniably angry. However, trying to incite other to violence, and committing violence yourself, makes you no better than the 4 cops who took George Floyd's life.

Protest all you want, practice peaceful civil disobedience, but violence and vandalism only detracts from the cause.
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3 minutes ago, Dr. Beeper said:

True. The guy makes a lot of good points on hyperbolic statements that get made. Sidebar - statistics are fascinating. You can frame something 2 ways and have it look favorable to your point, and unfavorable to your point. 

It is.  And breaking them down to show a comparison that makes sense to the layperson is a real skill. 

And an additional sidebar -- one of the quickest ways to destroy an expert in trial is for him to use a single, isolated number to make his point.  Because then a good lawyer does a clean, methodical cross examination using the COMPLETE data, and the jury just sees him as a liar.

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Just now, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

I have compassion for him, and I get that he was undeniably angry. However, trying to incite other to violence, and committing violence yourself, makes you no better than the 4 cops who took George Floyd's life.

Protest all you want, practice peaceful civil disobedience, but violence and vandalism only detracts from the cause.

You stated how I feel about it better than I Penelope.  

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Just now, Dr. Beeper said:

That gets you Viagra hard doesn’t it?  

You know....yeah....it kinda does.  Still remember the day I got to completely dismantle an economist (you've seen him quoted a million times) with his own contrary data that he'd failed to include in his analysis and opinion.  He went from their star witness to a non-entity in a few hours.  And yes, he's a textbook example for MY witnesses of "your analysis damned well better account for all the data."

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With all this going on because of George Floyd, I'm still pissed off at the Dallas cop who killed a guy in his own apartment eating a bowl of fucking ice cream because she thought his apartment was actually hers.  She got what? 10 years?

I'm guessing the cop who actually got charged with murder in this case will get off with some bullshit like 5 years in prison.  It's a fucking shame.  Fuck that guy.

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32 minutes ago, Dr. Beeper said:

Tap the brakes there. The takedown wasn’t that great. It was pretty thought provoking but he’s merely framing the numbers (still markedly weaker than white-on-white or white crimes) in a different light. I liked his layout better than what he was refuting. However, he contradicted himself a few times. Notably the 10x wealth disparity.  This is just as true as the initial post he was responding to. Both true. Both misleading. 

This piques my interest. What do you mean about 10X wealth disparity being misleading?

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1 hour ago, freyguy said:

So, as a whitey, how am I supposed to know what all this boogaloo, antifa, bookstore, secret society of No Homer's stuff is?  If they're the drivers of the revolution, they need to improve their marketing to get us normal folk involved.

They made Steve Gutenberg a star and suppress the metric system in the USA. They are very powerful. 

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7 minutes ago, Dr. Beeper said:

You know I don’t believe cops need to run around being scared, like Brisket advocates, because that will worsen things.

You misunderstand what I think cops should be scared of.  I don't think that they should fear violence.  I think that they should fear the rule of law applying to them like a motherfucker.  And based on the way they operate, that should scare the blue fuck out of them.  Good.

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46 minutes ago, GotThatFire said:

Except I had literally just said I don’t trust any form of government at any level before he presented the so-called evidence. 

In truth, if there’s going to be looting and organized chaos happening I’d prefer it be proven to come from the white nationalist side only, so it does not muddle the message. It’d be cool to actually take some positive steps forward in the arena of policing and racial equality following one of these events. 

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20 minutes ago, GotThatFire said:

Discredit discredit!!!

Okay.  The bookstore in the video has been closed since 2018 and has been used as the bookstore in the series Portlandia. SO FRED ARMISEN MUST BE INVOLVED WITH ANTIFA!

 

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5 minutes ago, Dr. Beeper said:

Guyger killed Jean in what I think was clearly an accident. This guy has less of an excuse. 

I think Guyger was sentenced appropriately. It’s too bad her life is ruined, but she made that mistake.   You cannot make mistakes like that. 

You know I don’t believe cops need to run around being scared, like Brisket advocates, because that will worsen things. But this fucker needs to go to jail for a long time, and swiftly.  And then all of the other 3 guys need to go to jail as accessories. 

there was an article about one of the cops(I think it was the Thomas guy) who was on his back, saying that he said maybe should we put him on his side.  bet he wishes he had been way more forceful.  all they needed to do was hog tie the guy, once they had handcuffs on him, if he was resisting and let him lie on the ground.  happens all the time to people who are resisting.

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And on this topic, cross-posted with How to Fix the Police, I think 100% of LE officers should have to train in BJJ.  Not to hurt others, but to learn to control them without hurting them or themselves.  We joke about fighting, but very, very few people don't freak out when faced with a physical altercation.  There's a reason people that "know" how to fight, almost never fight.  They know the repercussions.  They know the damage that can happen.  Nor do they have anything to prove.  Refer to the video of MMA fighter Matt Serra easily restraining some drunk fuck in a restaurant.  Any guesses had their been two untrained officers there the guy would be tazed and beaten?  Of course he would have - but with someone trained, the entire incident was de-escalated and the drunk guy gassed out and went docile.

 

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6 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Okay.  The bookstore in the video has been closed since 2018 and has been used as the bookstore in the series Portlandia. SO FRED ARMISEN MUST BE INVOLVED WITH ANTIFA!

Now you have to prove he's not.  Have you seen him since this all started? DIDNT THINK SO. 

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9 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

there was an article about one of the cops(I think it was the Thomas guy) who was on his back, saying that he said maybe should we put him on his side.  bet he wishes he had been way more forceful.  all they needed to do was hog tie the guy, once they had handcuffs on him, if he was resisting and let him lie on the ground.  happens all the time to people who are resisting.

Even if he was resisting, LE's are taught knee on belly/back.  It's a real move to immobilize a guy that you have on the ground.  Knee on neck is horseshit.  We all know that.  The cop knew we had being filmed as well.  Audacity of that fucking guy.  

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21 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

In truth, if there’s going to be looting and organized chaos happening I’d prefer it be proven to come from the white nationalist side only, so it does not muddle the message. It’d be cool to actually take some positive steps forward in the arena of policing and racial equality following one of these events. 

I think you are going to be disappointed.   the white nationalists are small splintered groups that couldn't organize their way out of a paper bag.   they might bring the guns to protect stores in isolated instances and play army but they don't care about cities being burned out.  If it gets to the suburbs all bets are off though.

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8 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

there was an article about one of the cops(I think it was the Thomas guy) who was on his back, saying that he said maybe should we put him on his side.  bet he wishes he had been way more forceful.  all they needed to do was hog tie the guy, once they had handcuffs on him, if he was resisting and let him lie on the ground.  happens all the time to people who are resisting.

Problem was first two cops were rookies.  Fuckhead was senior officer

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Just now, BabaYaga said:

Even if he was resisting, LE's are taught knee on belly/back.  It's a real move to immobilize a guy that you have on the ground.  Knee on neck is horseshit.  We all know that.  The cop knew we had being filmed as well.  Audacity of that fucking guy.  

oh I totally agree.  that guy is a fucking moron and a murderer.  whats the max on 3rd degree?  I'm guessing the 2nd degree is to get him to plead to 3rd degree.  they can't go 1st degree because he might take it to trial.

 

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8 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

oh I totally agree.  that guy is a fucking moron and a murderer.  whats the max on 3rd degree?  I'm guessing the 2nd degree is to get him to plead to 3rd degree.  they can't go 1st degree because he might take it to trial.

 

They can't go to 1st because the murder wasn't premeditated. He didn't go in with the strict intention of murdering Floyd. 

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1 minute ago, FartingMonk said:

Problem was first two cops were rookies.  Fuckhead was senior officer

agree.  fuckhead was an idiot.  I still want to see the numbers on complaints for the whole department by officer.  the guy had 18 over 19 years.   I still don't if that is a lot or not.  and are those ones made by joe public or are those ones that are made by joe public that got to a next level of review internally.  how many of the 18 did he get punished for?

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That can't go to 1st because the murder was premeditated. He didn't go in with the strict intention of murdering Floyd. 

Sitting on the guy, knee on neck, posing the camera - lends itself to the conspiracy crew that this was premeditated.  Who knows, fuck him and China either way.  Let him rot.

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That can't go to 1st because the murder was premeditated. He didn't go in with the strict intention of murdering Floyd. 

yes I know.  2nd should be worrisome enough to him to try to get him to plead to 3rd.  I would guess they want to avoid a trial.

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5 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

Sitting on the guy, knee on neck, posing the camera - lends itself to the conspiracy crew that this was premeditated.  Who knows, fuck him and China either way.  Let him rot.

I don't see how. You don't sit on someone's neck as they beg and plead for 8+ minutes if you're planning to murder them. You make it faster than 8 minutes. 

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30 minutes ago, Dr. Beeper said:

Guyger killed Jean in what I think was clearly an accident. This guy has less of an excuse. 

I think Guyger was sentenced appropriately. It’s too bad her life is ruined, but she made that mistake.   You cannot make mistakes like that. 

You know I don’t believe cops need to run around being scared, like Brisket advocates, because that will worsen things. But this fucker needs to go to jail for a long time, and swiftly.  And then all of the other 3 guys need to go to jail as accessories. 

Switch the scenario in the Guyger case, where a black man enters an unarmed white womans apartment and then guns her down.  They would have given him 25 to Life with the quickness.

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2 minutes ago, mdmost said:

I don't see how. You don't sit on someone's neck as they beg and plead for 8+ minutes if you're planning to murder them. You make it faster than 8 minutes. 

Oh, I get it and agree, but the loonies are already floating their theories.  I even saw one conflating the eagle tattoo on his chest with the 33 degree Free Mason stuff.

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25 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Okay.  The bookstore in the video has been closed since 2018 and has been used as the bookstore in the series Portlandia. SO FRED ARMISEN MUST BE INVOLVED WITH ANTIFA!

 

Funny that I posted this very thing debunking the fucking Project Veritas sham conspiracy only a couple of pages ago and here comes someone a little later posting that shit just an hour or so later calling it "interesting."

Most of y'all are supposed to college graduates from one of the finer public institutions of higher education in this country, but some are either too stupid or too lazy to not even bother to check your sources before posting bullshit from a group that's been thoroughly and publicly discredited multiple times. I suppose it could be worse though, if you're intentionally posting this trash to try and deceive the board. Either way, it's a great way to lose your credibility with this community.

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57 minutes ago, pearlandhorn said:

I'm still pissed off at the Dallas cop who killed a guy in his own apartment eating a bowl of fucking ice cream because she thought his apartment was actually hers.  She got what? 10 years?

Don’t forget the tears and hugs.

38 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

 I'd like to rear-naked choke that little fuck into next week.

Whatever turns you on, but that’s some good stamina.

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1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

The data on the relative disparity (or relative lack thereof) between white-on-white vs. black-on-black is all I focused on.  That was spot-on and strong.

He also very wisely avoided getting into interracial violent crime rates.  It’s ugly on a per capita basis.  

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