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Here are some of my photos from protests in Houston tonight.  The cops did their best to divide and disperse the crowd.  I saw a couple of arrests, but not sure the context.  I have never been in the

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2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:


This. The national guard is citizen soldiers - emphasis on citizen. They are our neighbors. No us v them because they’re us. I’m sure there’s an asshole here and there, but they haven’t spent years being indoctrinated into a WAR against the public, like the police have.

Hammer meet nail.

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It could be argued the curfews were the problem. Yeah, rioting and looting early on. Since then, most of the confrontations seem to be from curfews. Take those away, less problems, less violence, less aggression. 

Atlanta had problems the first night of protests. They brought in the National guard the next day and started imposing curfews about a week ago. We’ve really had no violence since the first night.  The mayor lifted tonight’s curfew and will determine after tonight whether tomorrow’s curfew will be lifted 

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On 6/5/2020 at 6:17 PM, Lobo said:

Yeah, this might not be popular to say right now...but I think some of the anti-police rhetoric is uncalled for (not completely, but some). 

But holy fucking shit, how do we say, with all that we know if physics and physiology in 2020, that certain weapons (bean bags, rubber bullets, et. al.) aren't lethal?  They cause brain damage and internal bleeding.  Both of which (checks notes from Biology class at UT he got a C- in ) are kinda fucking lethal to the human body.  

A nightstick is also lethal if you hit somebody hard enough with it.  A taser is lethal if you hit somebody in the right place with it, or they have a heart condition.  ECW's are all perfectly capable of killing most human beings in the hands of the wrong officer...which of course is where they typically find themselves. They're not non-lethal weapons.  They're just "not-usually-as-lethal" weapons.  Fuck a woman died in Columbus, OH this week from a tear gas/pepper spray mixture that fucked up her lungs.  

We're having a conversation about lethal vs. non-lethal weapons right now in this country because of a fucking knee-cap, which was classified as non-lethal in everything including UFC and the 1984 all-Valley Karate Tournament

Let that simmer for a minute.  

 

On 6/5/2020 at 6:12 PM, Deej said:

If the chief of police didn't realize shooting any projectile at someone's head was a bad idea, he should be terminated immediately. 

Sadly, I bet they weren’t trying to shoot people in the head.   Non-lethal rounds don’t always travel the same.  You better be  dead set with your aim and not miss (you better not be shooting them indiscriminately into the crowd, or shoot them from far away).  
 All that to say, don’t fucking fire non-lethal rounds unless you know exactly where it’s going.  It’s also one of the #1 rules of shooting:  know what you’re aiming at and know what’s behind it.  

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Great point.  But we area dealing with a police state that doesn't understand:

-What round it's shooting.

-To Whom at it is shooting.

-Who, or what, could possibly be behind it.

-What it could possibly mean for its pension.  Big clue, America...the fact that Police Union ERISA pensions and their concepts of race relations are both about 50 years behind the rest of the nation...ain't exactly great signals.  

 

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Hey Crazy Sneeze, which one of these is your pal's ex-gf?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8374815/Two-Brooklyn-lawyers-charged-throwing-Molotov-cocktail-NYPD-cruiser.html

PICTURED: Ivy league corporate attorney arrested along with a fellow lawyer for 'throwing a Molotov cocktail at empty NYPD van' during violent George Floyd protests in Brooklyn

Brooklyn lawyers Colinford Mattis 32, and Urooj Rahman, 31, have been arrested for allegedly throwing a Molotov cocktail into an empty NYPD cruiser

Mattis is a corporate attorney with Pryor Cashman and graduated from Princeton University and New York University law school 

They tossed a bottle filled with gasoline through a broken window into the cruiser just before 1am outside the 88th Precinct station, but it did not ignite 

They were chased by police and charged with attempting to damage or destroy law-enforcement vehicles, which carries a minimum of five years in jail 

There did not appear to be a link between this attack to another Molotov cocktail incident hours earlier in Crown Heights, Brooklyn

Samantha Shader, 27, was arrested for allegedly throwing the explosive into a cruiser with four cops in it, but it did not explode 

 

Darian Shader is pictured
Samantha Shader (pictured) and Darian Shader were arrested Friday during protests in Brooklyn
 

Samantha Shader (right) and Darian Shader (left) were arrested Friday during protests in Brooklyn. Samantha faces a a federal charge of damaging a police vehicle, Darian has been charged with resisting arrest and obstruction of governmental administration

Brooklyn lawyers Colinford Mattis 32, (above) and Urooj Rahman, 31, have been arrested for allegedly throwing a Molotov cocktail into an empty NYPD cruiser in Fort Greene early Saturday morning
Urooj Rahman, 31
 

Brooklyn lawyers Colinford Mattis 32, (above) and Urooj Rahman, 31, have been arrested for allegedly throwing a Molotov cocktail into an empty NYPD cruiser in Fort Greene early Saturday morning 

 

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Seems like throwing a Molotov cocktail inside a car with 4 people in it is attempted murder.

This thread moved fast while I was busy and caught up on others before this one, so responding to this b/c it was the last thing i read on here way back... Monday. Jesus, Covid fucks with time. Anyway, the chick who threw it at an occupied car is definitely guilty of attempted murder but thats not the chick. My buddy's ex is Urooj. Supposedly the last girl he seriously dated before going on a Tinder tear these last few years. Pretty sure it was his college sweet heart. It'll be a minute before I go through pages 55-94, so not gonna be able to respond immediately if there is other stuff after.

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9 minutes ago, achooloco said:

This thread moved fast while I was busy and caught up on others before this one, so responding to this b/c it was the last thing i read on here way back... Monday. Jesus, Covid fucks with time. Anyway, the chick who threw it at an occupied car is definitely guilty of attempted murder but thats not the chick. My buddy's ex is Urooj. Supposedly the last girl he seriously dated before going on a Tinder tear these last few years. Pretty sure it was his college sweet heart. It'll be a minute before I go through pages 55-94, so not gonna be able to respond immediately if there is other stuff after.

Urooj seems crazy fun, until she gets angry, which could be set off by anything.

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absolutely no way in the world those patrol cars can just keep driving safely home unless they slow down to pepper spray innocent bystanders.  Absolutely zero chance of them making it home.  Did what they had to do.  God bless the heroes.  

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Sadly, I bet they weren’t trying to shoot people in the head.   Non-lethal rounds don’t always travel the same.  You better be  dead set with your aim and not miss (you better not be shooting them indiscriminately into the crowd, or shoot them from far away).  
 All that to say, don’t fucking fire non-lethal rounds unless you know exactly where it’s going.  It’s also one of the #1 rules of shooting:  know what you’re aiming at and know what’s behind it. 

This term “non-lethal“ is bullshit pr. The police aren’t  setting their phasers to stun or even using pepper spray. The correct term is “ less lethal” because these rounds kill/permanently fuck up plenty of people.

not accusing the op of anything, US press uses this term all the time. It’s an important distinction Imo.

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2 hours ago, Parliament said:

He isn't allowed on stage and is asked a gotcha question in front of the crowd. Give an answer they don't wanna here, and gets told, "Get the eff out!"

 

Mayor Frey may be in over his head.

 

 

 

 

 

 

That guy walking away was the mayor?  I mean, it was a pretty good distance between the camera and him, but that dude looked about 14 yrs old.

wtf?

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3 hours ago, Parliament said:

He isn't allowed on stage and is asked a gotcha question in front of the crowd. Give an answer they don't wanna here, and gets told, "Get the eff out!"

 

Mayor Frey may be in over his head.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Public shaming of the unrepentant sinner, complete with the "Shame!" taunts.  This will end well.

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43 minutes ago, Cajun said:

That guy walking away was the mayor?  I mean, it was a pretty good distance between the camera and him, but that dude looked about 14 yrs old.

wtf?

You didn’t vote for Mayor Doogie?

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From that same Texas monthly edition, a pretty good depantsing of the fraud that is Art Acevedo.  Well done TM! -------------------------------------->

https://www.texasmonthly.com/news/art-acevedo-houston-police-george-floyd/

At a press conference on March 23, 2018, Art Acevedo, the Houston police chief, announced an aggravated assault charge against Philadelphia Eagles defensive end Michael Bennett. Acevedo alleged that the Eagles star had pushed an elderly paraplegic security guard at Houston’s NRG Stadium as he rushed to celebrate on the field with his brother Martellus, whose New England Patriots had just won the 2017 Super Bowl. At the half-hour press conference, held more than a year after the game—Acevedo explained the HPD had prioritized “serious crimes”—the police chief was in his element, bantering with reporters and issuing soundbite-worthy quips. He worked himself into a righteous lather over someone “putting hands on a little old lady” in a motorized wheelchair and called Bennett “pathetic” and “morally bankrupt.”

But, as Acevedo admitted, there was no video of the alleged assault. Given the number of people trying to access the field after the Patriots’ Super Bowl victory, it was unclear how the elderly security guard, and the police officer who allegedly witnessed the incident, could clearly identify Bennett, who strenuously denied the charge. One year after the press conference, in April 2019, the Harris County District Attorney’s Office dropped the case after determining that “a crime could not be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.” Acevedo said he stood by the assessment that an assault had occurred, but agreed there wasn’t enough evidence to proceed with the case.

This kind of grandstanding and moralistic posturing from Acevedo has drawn heat from local activists. Since taking over as police chief in 2016, Acevedo, who did not immediately respond to requests for an interview, has excelled at self-promotion. This week, he is trying to sell himself to the nation as a pro-reform police chief. He’s changed his Twitter profile picture to an image of George Floyd, the longtime Houston resident who was choked to death by police in Minneapolis, sparking nationwide protests. Acevedo has appeared on the Today show and penned an op-ed for the Washington Post calling for more police accountability. A video of him standing with protesters, speaking of his anger over Floyd’s killing, has gone viral. But Acevedo’s record is one of a police chief reluctant to make fundamental reforms.

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The Houston Years of George Floyd

Consider the issue of bail reform. Acevedo has called for reform of the cash bail system, saying the decision to release suspects accused of a crime before trial “should be based on [their] public safety risk rather than how rich [they] are.” Yet he, along with many in the criminal justice establishment, opposed Harris County’s historic 2019 settlement of a lawsuit about how it sets bail, which eliminated cash bail for most misdemeanor defendants. He regularly takes to Twitter to slam judges for granting bail to defendants he thinks belong in jail.

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Not even the coronavirus has softened his opposition. In March, when Sheriff Ed Gonzalez proposed waiving bail for a significant percentage of the eight thousand inmates in Harris County jail to reduce the risk of an outbreak, Acevedo pushed back. He argued that anyone considered for release should be subjected to an individualized risk assessment—a time-consuming process. Between Acevedo’s intransigence and a series of court orders blocking the sheriff’s plan, only about three hundred inmates have been let out, and by mid-May, more than one thousand inmates and jail staff had contracted the virus. “There are those of us that are trapped here in what could be Houston’s largest death camp, just for being accused, just for being an addict,” inmate James Walter Gandy told the Houston Chronicle.

 

This week, Acevedo has tried to position himself as a friend to both protesters and police officers. During Tuesday’s massive afternoon demonstration in downtown Houston, he stood with a group of protesters to answer their increasingly pointed complaints about police brutality. The protest that day was peaceful. The only property damage I witnessed was a single act of graffiti-spraying. Nonetheless, as it began getting dark, the HPD, backed up by state Department of Public Safety troopers—all of them wearing paramilitary-style tactical gear—started aggressively and systematically clearing protesters out of downtown, even though the city was not under curfew.

“This is no longer a peaceful protest,” I heard officers repeatedly announce via bullhorn, in direct contradiction to what I could see and what video of the event would later confirm. “Those who refuse to disperse are subject to arrest.” A block from Minute Maid Park, I saw mounted police nearly trample a line of kneeling protesters who refused to get out of the road. Later, I had to flee with other protesters through Discovery Green after several hundred cops in riot gear donned their gas masks and rumors spread of imminent tear gas. (HPD says it did not end up deploying the gas.) The night ended without “significant property damage or injuries,” as an official HPD tweet put it, yet police arrested more than two hundred people.

Acevedo’s condemnation of the killing of George Floyd is also complicated by the fact that his own officers have shot and killed six Houstonians over the past six weeks, at least one of whom was unarmed.

Despite his recent public calls for accountability, Acevedo has refused to release police video of any of the six shootings, citing concerns about privacy and about the videos’ potential to taint potential prosecution of the police officers. Five of the six Houstonians shot were people of color. Acevedo denies that race has anything to do with it. He told the Houston Chronicle that “it saddens me that people look at race,” adding, “What we need to look at is that behavior”—a reference to claims that several of the victims were threatening officers. Cellphone video appears to show one of the six slain men, Nicolas Chavez, kneeling when he was shot. (Acevedo has asked the FBI to investigate Chavez’s shooting.) No officers have been disciplined for any of the shootings.

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A No-Knock Raid in Houston Led to Deaths and Police Injuries. Should Police Rethink the Practice?

BY LEIF REIGST                                                                                                                                                                                                    Acevedo’s department has also conducted controversial no-knock raids, leading to one prominent scandal. In January 2019, undercover narcotics officers executed a no-knock warrant on the southeast Houston home of Rhogena Nicholas and Dennis Tuttle. A gunfight broke out during which Nicholas and Tuttle died and several HPD officers were injured. The narcotics officers believed the couple was dealing heroin, but found only small amounts of cocaine and marijuana.

The entire raid, it turned out, was based on an unlawful warrant written up by HPD officers Gerald Goines and Steven Bryant. Goines and Bryant retired after the incident. Goines was charged with murder, and Bryant was charged with tampering with a government document. The Harris County District Attorney’s Office anticipates it will dismiss more than 150 drug cases handled by Goines, and their review is ongoing. A Houston Chronicle investigationrevealed that Goines spent much of his undercover time busting low-level street dealers. In 2004, he arrested George Floyd for allegedly selling him less than a gram of cocaine. Floyd pleaded guilty and was sentenced to ten months in state jail. In March 2019, the district attorney’s office sent Floyd a letter notifying him that Goines was under criminal investigation.

Acevedo’s handling of the case has followed a predictable arc, from defending his officers to the hilt in January of 2019, to issuing an apology for Goines’s and Bryant’s actions in November, to positioning himself as the hero of the whole affair by claiming credit for discovering the malfeasance. “It would have been a tragedy for Rhogena and the Tuttles if we had not uncovered [Goines’s alleged misconduct],” Acevedo told Texas Monthly in February. “That would be an even greater tragedy and injustice.” In February, Acevedo announced a series of reforms including more scrutiny of “no-knock” raids and tighter supervision of narcotics operations.

 

The families of the married couple killed in the raid remain unsatisfied. On Wednesday, Rhogena Nicholas’s brother John wrote an op-ed for the Houston Chronicle calling on Acevedo to release the forensic and ballistics reports from the scene of the raid; fully investigate the entire narcotics division; and be transparent about the state of the case against Goines and Bryant. “As [Houston mayor Sylvester] Turner and Acevedo plan for their next news conferences to comment on public safety in some faraway place or even in Houston, we ask them to take a moment and remember that our family is still awaiting their answers to our questions,” Nicholas writes.

Like Nicholas, many Houstonians say they are tired of their police chief saying the right thing in public but allowing the same problems he speaks against to fester behind closed doors. It’s time, they say, for Acevedo’s actions to be as bold as his words.

 
 

 

 

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18 minutes ago, Cajun said:

And. Here. We. Go...

https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-ambush-leaves-1-deputy-dead-2-officers-hurt

(this morning's front page/first hit on Google search)

That doesn’t read like an ambush or anything premeditated.

It reads like a guy was making bombs in his van, saw the cops, they followed him, so he opened fire knowing he was fucked. 

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So Kudlow is apparently saying the earliest another round of stimulus stuff could be passed is sometime in July, but he didn't exactly sound optimistic.  

Forbes is saying it's probably not going to happen.  https://www.forbes.com/sites/zackfriedman/2020/06/04/dont-expect-a-second-stimulus-check/#64329c8463e0

Hope a lot of people and businesses who needed help were able to make the first/last round stretch for a while.

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15 hours ago, Parliament said:

He isn't allowed on stage and is asked a gotcha question in front of the crowd. Give an answer they don't wanna here, and gets told, "Get the eff out!"

 

Mayor Frey may be in over his head.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yep. As if he was gonna say he would abolish the entire police force. What's the endgame for this push to defund the police? 

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Yep. As if he was gonna say he would abolish the entire police force. What's the endgame for this push to defund the police? 

Police forces that aren’t incredibly militarized and better funding for other societal needs like schools

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Police forces that aren’t incredibly militarized and better funding for other societal needs like schools

OK, so they want to abolish this police force and start a new one? What happens in the interim? Everyone polices themselves?

I get that it's probably more rhetorical than anything, but why not push harder for real reform than pushing for something that clearly won't happen?

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1 minute ago, wood said:

OK, so they want to abolish this police force and start a new one? What happens in the interim? Everyone polices themselves?

I get that it's probably more rhetorical than anything, but why not push harder for real reform than pushing for something that clearly won't happen?

Nope. They don’t want to abolish anything.

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Nope. They don’t want to abolish anything.

That makes more sense, but that's not what the young lady in the video seemed to be saying. Or the signs. Then when the guy says he's not for full abolition of the police department, he's booed, told to gtfo, etc.

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