Launching humans into space again from America - Space X

[Rip76 5,022]

28 minutes ago, washparkhorn said:

 

Cool as shit.

And they buy their LOX from us.

[Pato del Muerto 53,473]

If that’s SN10 adjacent to 9, I hope it survived 9’s landing ok. 

[Pato del Muerto 53,473]

8 minutes ago, Rip76 said:

Cool as shit.

And they buy their LOX from us. Of course Jewish space lasers run on LOX. 

[Anastasis 23,717]

38 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

If that’s SN10 adjacent to 9, I hope it survived 9’s landing ok. 

Seems a bit wild to try to land that shit right next to the other. 

[Captainant 28,531]

58 minutes ago, Rip76 said:

Cool as shit.

And they buy their LOX from us.

My FIL sold a shitload of ultra-high-grade polished stainless steel sheets to an outfit "down near Boca Chica" a while back... I'd bet dollars to doughnuts they're getting made into starships

[washparkhorn 9,973]

36 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Seems a bit wild to try to land that shit right next to the other. 

10 is basically just the shell of a silo right now.   Before the launch, one of the analysts remarked SpaceX was not worried about damaging it in its current state.  

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Question I do not know the answer to:

On the crash/landing strategy - if this thing can hover at 30,000, why is the flip from horizontal to vertical so late in the process (a few seconds prior to touchdown) when there is not time to correct any errors?

[washparkhorn 9,973]

And obligatory for context:

 

[1978horn 904]

10 is basically just the shell of a silo right now.   Before the launch, one of the analysts remarked SpaceX was not worried about damaging it in its current state.  
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Question I do not know the answer to:
On the crash/landing strategy - if this thing can hover at 30,000, why is the flip from horizontal to vertical so late in the process (a few seconds prior to touchdown) when there is not time to correct any errors?

My guess is fuel capacity. I didn’t stay at a Holiday Inn son I could be way off.

[Mighty fine 175]

Likely has something to do with the additional fuel that would be required to maintain a stable decent once back in upright position.

[Neonmoon 38,130]

4 hours ago, washparkhorn said:

10 is basically just the shell of a silo right now.   Before the launch, one of the analysts remarked SpaceX was not worried about damaging it in its current state.  

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Question I do not know the answer to:

On the crash/landing strategy - if this thing can hover at 30,000, why is the flip from horizontal to vertical so late in the process (a few seconds prior to touchdown) when there is not time to correct any errors?

They actually prefer it to say horizontal as long as possible because the greater surface area slows it down faster, but yeah, they probably want to work on the landing 

[Captainant 28,531]

11 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

They actually prefer it to say horizontal as long as possible because the greater surface area slows it down faster, but yeah, they probably want to work on the landing 

SpaceX blew up quite a few falcon 9's trying to land them, and starship is integrating a brand new engine design. I'd bet they figure out the landings before too long lol. 

The belly flop maneuver is pretty profound for descent though, they can fall at a terminal velocity of around 80-100 MPH. That saves them a huge amount of fuel for the return and will increase their payload capacity. It'll be a hell of a show while they figure it out, too lol

[horncyclist 1,391]

Those ships look so damn futuristic. When I watch them I think "cool the future is finally here."

[OrangEngr 1,035]

On 2/2/2021 at 4:22 PM, washparkhorn said:

10 is basically just the shell of a silo right now.   Before the launch, one of the analysts remarked SpaceX was not worried about damaging it in its current state.  

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Question I do not know the answer to:

On the crash/landing strategy - if this thing can hover at 30,000, why is the flip from horizontal to vertical so late in the process (a few seconds prior to touchdown) when there is not time to correct any errors?

http://twitter.com/flightclubio/status/1356993819120599040?s=21

 

Interesting simulation about flip altitude 

Edited February 4, 2021 by OrangEngr

[washparkhorn 9,973]

14 minutes ago, OrangEngr said:

http://twitter.com/flightclubio/status/1356993819120599040?s=21

 

Interesting simulation about flip altitude 

Awesome link. Thank you.

It led me to this: 

 

[OrangEngr 1,035]

3 minutes ago, washparkhorn said:

Awesome link. Thank you.

It led me to this: 

 

Meh, would have been better set to Ode to Joy.

[washparkhorn 9,973]

3 minutes ago, OrangEngr said:

Meh, would have been better set to Ode to Joy.

Agree, but I like the Halo tie in (since daddy musk is taking us to mars). 

[washparkhorn 9,973]

7 minutes til launch - Next mission: Stick the landing. 

 

[washparkhorn 9,973]

 

[washparkhorn 9,973]

Ignition then abort.  Abort was 0.1 secs from release.  Determining whether they will try again today (doubt).

Launch window closes at 6 Texas time. 

[Hagbard Celine 11,239]

recycling, next attempt in 2 hours ~430 central

[Ghost of LL 15,698]

Let's light this candle!

[Hagbard Celine 11,239]

they are not going to make 430 central unless they start gassing 'er up

[Pablo 500]

dis gon be good

 

[Pablo 500]

sunovabitch

[Hagbard Celine 11,239]

fumes!

[Hagbard Celine 11,239]

recondenser

[Hagbard Celine 11,239]

targeting 515 central 50 mins from now

[Hagbard Celine 11,239]

tri-vent

T - 12 minutes

mission target: flight to 10km altitude and return to pad

[washparkhorn 9,973]

Great job turning that around so quickly. 

Edited March 3, 2021 by washparkhorn

[Hagbard Celine 11,239]

T-7:00

[Captainant 28,531]

Just now, washparkhorn said:

Tri-Vent - ~10 minutes to launch. 

(great job readying the ship so quickly. Every step is an opportunity to learn).

It's pretty remarkable the rate they're producing not only new rocket bodies and tanks, but the engines to go on these things. They're gathering so much data and making so many little improvements each flight. It's really cool to see in real-time. If all goes well, I'm looking forward to watching some Scott Manley and other youtubers analyzing the flight tomorrow

[washparkhorn 9,973]

SpaceX Feed live: 

https://www.spacex.com/vehicles/starship/index.html

[Hagbard Celine 11,239]

T minus 3 minutes and counting

this is starship launch control

[Hagbard Celine 11,239]

venting vapors like the breath of a sleeping white dragon

[Hagbard Celine 11,239]

AND THERE IS A BIG X IN THE SKY

[Captainant 28,531]

Elon really pulling out all the stops to put a SpaceX logo in the sky

[Anastasis 23,717]

T-2

[Captainant 28,531]

Countdown held at 1 minute

edit: counting again

Edited March 3, 2021 by Captainant

[Captainant 28,531]

We have liftoff! Smoke em if you've got em

[Anastasis 23,717]

go bitch. 

[Captainant 28,531]

Super interested to see if their new strategy for landing works out. Previously they were only lighting 2 engines, so when one had a hiccup it would kill the landing attempt. Now they're gonna light all 3 and pick the best 2 to land with. 

It's fucking AWESOME to see the thrust vectoring at work, just look at that gimbaling!

[InkaUtexas 26,868]

Damn impressive for sure. 

 

[Anastasis 23,717]

fuck yes

[WithoutAClue 16,126]

3rd times a charm

[Pablo 500]

Nailed it!

[Pablo 500]

Looks a little tilted.

[Anastasis 23,717]

looks like they have a little fire on teh pad, but they stuck it. 

[Hagbard Celine 11,239]

landing legs did not deploy but it still landed upright

[Captainant 28,531]

FLIP AND BURN IS GOOD! 

AND SHE STICKS THE LANDING!!!!! Leaning a little bit, and it's slightly on fire, BUT IT LANDED!

It looks like the legs didn't fully deploy, or they failed. But this is a huge step forward

Edited March 3, 2021 by Captainant

[Hagbard Celine 11,239]

nonetheless a massive milestone for elon

re-lit 3, did the flip, then shut down 2 and landed on 1

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