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On 7/28/2020 at 9:11 PM, Buzzrock said:

Fixed in Phoenix!


https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix/2020/07/17/noise-complaint-fatal-police-shooting-ryan-whitaker/5459142002/

police are scared to death of citizens. dude answered his door, immediately put down his gun, and then was shot in the back several times from close to point blank range by some hero just trying to get home to his family. i'm sure everyone else in the neighborhood will sleep safe and sound know that these heroes are out here watching over them and protecting them. 

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Fixed in Key West. Brave officers suppress violent threat of 8-year old special needs boy by attempting to handcuff him, but cuffs will not fit around his wrists. So they arrest him for felony assault and process him at an adult men's jail, and lie to him about his father not being there.

 

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/g5pkg7/florida-cops-tried-to-handcuff-an-8-year-old-boy-at-school-but-his-wrists-were-too-small?utm_source=Iterable&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=curated_vice_daily_1023202&experimentID=eKHMOHYPTJCJSqzqCWSZjA&variantID=

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Cops Tried to Handcuff an 8-Year-Old Boy at School, But His Wrists Were Too Small

 
“You made a mistake, and now it’s time to learn from it and grow from it, right?" said the cop at the boy's arrest on a felony charge.
 
 

The mother of a little boy who was arrested and almost handcuffed after experiencing a mental health crisis at school has filed a federal civil rights lawsuit over the incident, which was captured in viral body-camera footage.

“I refuse to let them make him a criminal,” the boy’s mother, Bianca N. Digennaro, said in a press conference Tuesday.

During his arrest on a felony battery charge in December 2018, officers from the Key West Police Department frisked and attempted to handcuff her then-8-year-old son, who had been diagnosed with oppositional defiant disorder, depression, anxiety, and ADHD. They soon realized his wrists were too small to hold the restraints, according to body-camera footage released Sunday by Benjamin Crump, one of the attorneys now involved in Digennaro’s lawsuit.

“You understand this is very serious, OK?” one officer told the boy, who is now 10, according to the footage.

“I hate that you put me in this position, that I have to do this, OK? Alright?” the officer, who has not been identified, continued, according to the footage. “The thing about it is you made a mistake, and now it’s time to learn from it and grow from it, right? Not repeat the same mistake again.”

The boy’s shoulders shook, and he appeared to wipe his nose on his shirt as he cried and nodded along, according to body-camera footage.

Attorneys said Tuesday that the boy’s father was in the building, although officers allegedly told him his father had left. A police cruiser was visible in the distance, just outside the school.

“I can feel how scared my son was, and it’s impossible to watch,” Digennaro said about the video. “I would never want any other parent to have to watch a video like that about their 8-year-old son.”

The boy was later taken to a juvenile justice facility, according to the Miami Herald, although his mother said he was processed at an adult jail, where he had his mugshot taken and was placed in a cell for a few minutes.

Crump said Tuesday that Digennaro had to fight for months to get her son’s charge dismissed, and that the boy “vividly remembers” the door being slammed on his cell. He’s suffered stomach aches, nightmares, headaches, and insomnia since his arrest, according to the lawsuit.

The incident that led to his arrest apparently started when a teacher at Gerald Adams Elementary repeatedly told the boy that he wasn’t sitting properly in his cafeteria seat, according to an arrest report reviewed by the Miami Herald.

When the boy didn’t respond, the teacher then asked him to sit next to her. He didn’t, and told her he didn’t want to be touched, according to the Miami Herald. So she told him to walk with her. The boy said his mom was going to beat her up, according to the Herald, and punched her in the chest.

The school district was aware of the boy’s disabilities, according to the lawsuit, since he was on an individualized education program. The teacher had allegedly placed him in a “classroom and lunchroom setting that they knew was not appropriate for his disability,” according to the lawsuit.

Officer Michael Malgrat, one of three officers named in the lawsuit Tuesday, said in a report reviewed by the Herald that the boy “had his hands clenched into fists and he was postured as if he was ready to fight” when he and the teacher came to the school's administrative office.

Crump, who is also representing the family of George Floyd, said during a press conference Tuesday that the boy, who is only 3 feet 6 inches tall and weighs 64 pounds, posed no threat to the officers. The complaint, filed Tuesday in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida, names the city, the Monroe County School District, three officers, a teacher, and two school officials as defendants.

“This mother had to hire a criminal lawyer to aggressively defend these charges — these allegations that her son had committed a felony when he simply was having a mental illness crisis because of his disabilities that had been well diagnosed,” Crump said in Tuesday’s press conference.

The Key West Police Department, the city, and the Monroe County School District did not immediately respond to a VICE News request for comment. Key West Police Chief Sean T. Brandenburg told the Miami Herald that officers had followed standard operating procedures.

Police departments have repeatedly been criticized for arresting children at their schools over minor incidents. One Orlando officer was fired last year after arresting two school children in one day, including a 6-year-old girl who had allegedly kicked someone.

 

 

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a teensy, tiny, small victory

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/indiana-cops-charged-battery-protesters-arrests-72332616

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Two women, Ivoré Westfield and Rachel Harding, both of Marion County, are named as victims. They filed a federal lawsuit in June after video was released of officers using batons and pepper balls to subdue the them during their May 31 arrests in downtown Indianapolis.

Video of the arrest, recorded by WISH-TV, shows Westfield, who is Black, being held from behind by a white male officer, escaping his grasp and then being surrounded by several other officers. There were audible pops and several clouds of spray near Westfield, which the lawsuit contends were caused by detonated pepper balls. Two officers struck her with batons until she fell to the ground, and she was then pinned face-down by a baton at the back of her neck.

Harding, who is white, could be seen and heard in the video shouting, “Why her? Why her?” Another officer then rushed Harding and shoved her to the ground, where officers subdued her.

Neither woman was charged with any crime.

Among other things, grand jurors were asked to consider the level of threat posed by the individuals being arrested, Mears said.

 

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Brisketexan

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How do you fix police when shit like this is inside?

 

And remember....we only know about this because someone recorded what he thought were private remarks.

 

There are a whole, whole, whole lot more of them who just haven’t been caught on a recording. And there are some who aren’t that way. And there’s zero way to know which kind you’re dealing with when a guy with a badge confronts you. Good luck, black people!

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what if the police is a gang.

https://spectrumnews1.com/ca/la-west/public-safety/2020/08/30/whistleblower-testifies-deputy-who-shot-gardena-teen-was--chasing-ink--

The deputy who shot and killed 18-year-old Andres Guardado outside a car shop in Gardena was a prospective member of a violent clique inside the Compton Sheriff’s station, according to the sworn testimony of a whistleblower.

 

“It is very disturbing – to say the least – that gangs are commonly known to exist within the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department. These reports go to the heart of our concerns that the Sheriff’s Department promotes and harbors a culture of violence against the public. Make no mistake, we have every intention of conducting a thorough investigation into the potential involvement of any Sheriff’s Department gang in the shooting of Andres Guardado.”

More than a dozen deputies have matching tattoos and belong to a violent clique called the Executioners at the station, according to Deputy Art Gonzalez, who filed a whistleblower complaint regarding the Executioners in June.

“I now call them a gang because that’s what gangs do – they beat up other people,” Gonzalez said.

His sworn testimony obtained by Spectrum News 1 is for a separate excessive force case filed against Los Angeles County. The deputies in the lawsuit are accused of “chasing ink” – slang for trying to impress the Executioners to join their group.

“There are parties after shootings. They call them ‘998 parties.’ Some people say it’s to celebrate the deputy is alive. Others say it’s to celebrate that they’re going to be ‘inking’ somebody.”

Gonzalez, testifying for nearly six hours under oath, said the existence of the clique was “common knowledge” at the station and that the gang’s so-called shot caller controlled the work schedule and their actions boosted arrest numbers.

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Y’all need to check out the series of reports that KVUE has been doing on the Wilco Sheriff’s Dept under Chody....fuck.

A piece tonight on how they tackle and took down hard....a domestic violence...victim. Bodycam video, the whole show. Rookie female deputy was first on the scene and handled things well...then the jacked up heroes showed up, and shit went south immediately.

It’s so damned maddening. Oh, and the dept decided that the ringleader didn’t follow policy, so they suspended him....for a day. Then, two months later, they promoted him to detective.

I really don’t believe that law enforcement can be fixed.

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I have very mixed feelings about this article.

https://www.ajc.com/news/atlantas-violent-summer-coincides-with-officer-exodus/RXG3VRQ52BFVLNAAD4I4GS6I54/

Lots of Atlanta police resigning and violent crime is on the rise. We already have as many murders as we had in all of 2019.

On the one hand if cops are resigning because they think they’ll get caught being abusive then good riddance. On the other hand if cops are resigning because they feel their hands are being tied and their bosses don’t support them then that’s bad. More violent crime is bad.

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I have very mixed feelings about this article.

https://www.ajc.com/news/atlantas-violent-summer-coincides-with-officer-exodus/RXG3VRQ52BFVLNAAD4I4GS6I54/

Lots of Atlanta police resigning and violent crime is on the rise. We already have as many murders as we had in all of 2019.

On the one hand if cops are resigning because they think they’ll get caught being abusive then good riddance. On the other hand if cops are resigning because they feel their hands are being tied and their bosses don’t support them then that’s bad. More violent crime is bad.

What this reveals is that there’s no good answer.

Insist that cops preform within the law and be held accountable? They’ll quit/not do their job. Leaving the people exposed to More crime.

Give in, and let the cops continue business as usual? Street crime stays about the same...and cops keep on abusing people, breaking the law, and saying fuck you, wadda ya gonna do about it?

They hold is hostage. And they’re willing to kill the hostage.
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... Insist that cops preform within the law and be held accountable? They’ll quit/not do their job. Leaving the people exposed to More crime. ...

We the people bear some responsibility for self protection and the fiber of our local community.  To the extent that people today aren't willing to shoulder their responsibility, they are complicit in empowering the bad faith/bad actors in law enforcement.

 

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We the people bear some responsibility for self protection and the fiber of our local community.  To the extent that people today aren't willing to shoulder their responsibility, they are complicit in empowering the bad faith/bad actors in law enforcement.

 

I don’t disagree. But we’re an “every man for himself” society now. John Galt out front shoulda told ya.

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Hopefully that translates into a society that takes self reliance and responsibility seriously.  Record gun and ammo sales right now among first time gun owners might be signalling that.  Or it could just be preps for civil war.  My point is... If cops can't work under rules that ensure good faith to the people, then fuck 'em.  I'll take my chances with thugs that don't enjoy extraordinary legal protections for heinous behavior over ones emboldened by such protections.

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Hopefully that translates into a society that takes self reliance and responsibility seriously.  Record gun and ammo sales right now among first time gun owners might be signalling that.  Or it could just be preps for civil war.  My point is... If cops can't work under rules that ensure good faith to the people, then fuck 'em.  I'll take my chances with thugs that don't enjoy extraordinary legal protections for heinous behavior over ones emboldened by such protections.

That’s fine. But the false religion of “total self reliance” is a big part of what got us into this mess. We are communities and a society, not 335 million islands that just tel all the other islands “fuck you, I’m only looking out for #1.” People aren’t and shouldn’t be self-reliant. It’s nuts to bring that i should grow my own food, build my own house, be my own police and fire departments, be my water utility, my kids only teacher, my doctor, my pastor...etc.

We are a social creature. We are meant for mutually beneficial living. Yes, the individual matters and has rights in balance, but we have placed that on an altar, and condemned even the slightest nod towards community good as the heresy of socialism and whatnot. And it’s killing us. We are alone and lonely, each individual in animal struggle against all others...it’s destructive.
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Hopefully that translates into a society that takes self reliance and responsibility seriously.  Record gun and ammo sales right now among first time gun owners might be signalling that.  Or it could just be preps for civil war.  My point is... If cops can't work under rules that ensure good faith to the people, then fuck 'em.  I'll take my chances with thugs that don't enjoy extraordinary legal protections for heinous behavior over ones emboldened by such protections.

That’s fine. But the false religion of “total self reliance” is a big part of what got us into this mess. We are communities and a society, not 335 million islands that just tel all the other islands “fuck you, I’m only looking out for #1.” People aren’t and shouldn’t be self-reliant. It’s nuts to bring that i should grow my own food, build my own house, be my own police and fire departments, be my water utility, my kids only teacher, my doctor, my pastor...etc.

We are a social creature. We are meant for mutually beneficial living. Yes, the individual matters and has rights in balance, but we have placed that on an altar, and condemned even the slightest nod towards community good as the heresy of socialism and whatnot. And it’s killing us. We are alone and lonely, each individual in animal struggle against all others...it’s destructive.
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... People aren’t and shouldn’t be self-reliant. It’s nuts to bring that i should grow my own food, build my own house, be my own police and fire departments, be my water utility, my kids only teacher, my doctor, my pastor...etc. ...

My fault I guess for not qualifying my comment, but I was trying to convey at a high level the need taking a modicum of responsibility over personal self defense and securing one's property.   If you (and your neighbors, and your community at large) are totally reliant on the cops for these issues you fall into the I'm too scared to hold them accountable or they might quit trap you mentioned and then they can, will and have get away with murder.

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I have read and watched a lot on this top the last year.

Qualified Immunity needs to go away. Officers can get individual worker liability insurance based on their past.  That is capitalism.  It can be built into their pay.

There needs to be a federal database of officers to track them ( I thought of setting up a civilian one, after watching repeated violations of officers)  Youtubers state the officers name in titles in an effort.

In Big Cities there needs to be  a civilian  "Internal Affairs" .  Internal Affairs is a joke.

In Cities, Police Make 100k up to 200k overtime, That money needs to go to more officers, so you can fire anyone.

6 months average Police Academy?  Then you send them with a gun and badge?  It needs to be 2 years.

I've watched so many cases, Cops Lie like everyone else, and Judges accept their testimony over a citizen.  How? They are partners in government.  More Overwatch.

Drug dogs are only proven 50% effective, and that allows them to search?  A Cop can just say I smell something, and that gives him reasonable cause to search a car.

Laws are written so you can't really drive a block without breaking a law, Then cops find reasons to arrest one.

 Cities need to get out of the Ticketing/locking up people business.

Get rid of Police Unions,  Government Unions don't work.

In A town in New Jersey I think, They fired all the police, and brought them back with no Police Union, I'm not sure how that would work in a big city, but that is what needs to be done.

I'm sure I'm forgetting some, but glad to have that off my chest. :)

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What this reveals is that there’s no good answer.

Insist that cops preform within the law and be held accountable? They’ll quit/not do their job. Leaving the people exposed to More crime.

Give in, and let the cops continue business as usual? Street crime stays about the same...and cops keep on abusing people, breaking the law, and saying fuck you, wadda ya gonna do about it?

They hold is hostage. And they’re willing to kill the hostage.

Also, I find the correlation between cops quitting and crime rising to be waaaayyyy too coincidental to just accept a causal relationship.

Who is in control of the crime stats?

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I'm Right as they come,  I have done research, I think what I laid out needs to be done.

If cops quit, there will be others that will join.  It is a nice paycheck, need to recruit more people in jr colleges, etc.

Bad cops or their SGTs  shouldn't be making 100K to 200k a year, they need to be fired and replaced right away.

 

You can't fix small Towns, most crime uptick seems to be in Urban areas.

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On 7/31/2020 at 11:56 AM, BabaYaga said:

In this weeks chapter of "what could go wrong" and "defund doesn't REALLY mean defund, until it does", Seattle jumps the shark once again.  I'm sure the local communities won't suffer or see a spike in violence any time soon.  

 

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