Thread of Statue Removals

[Sawbonz 28084]

When are the Andrew Jackson statues coming down? My grandmother’s great grandparents had to walk to fucking Oklahoma because of that prick

 

 

[David Dennison 19441]

8 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

When are the Andrew Jackson statues coming down? My grandmother’s great grandparents had to walk to fucking Oklahoma because of that prick

While he deserves it, something tells me former presidents are safe for now.

[SimonBolivar 11036]

28 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

When are the Andrew Jackson statues coming down? My grandmother’s great grandparents had to walk to fucking Oklahoma because of that prick

 

 

I toured The Hermitage last year and they were having a big "save the $20" campaign. I politely declined that one.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

 

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

5 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

Like those right wingers have firm footing on that stance. 317 bullet holes/shotgun pellets before the marker was removed and replaced with a bulletproof sign. RIP Emmet Till.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

53 minutes ago, MaybeACoordinator said:

The line between Columbus and the Confederates runs straight through the Founding Fathers.

While deeply flawed, the founding fathers were successful traitors that were never removed from power for being tyrannical assholes. 

Man this needle is challenging to thread. 

[MaybeACoordinator 8350]

58 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

While deeply flawed, the founding fathers were successful traitors that were never removed from power for being tyrannical assholes. 

Man this needle is challenging to thread. 

And it isn't ours to decide. The covenant is broken.

[cactusflinthead 27626]

I don't know if it's already been mentioned in here, but I saw a tweet the other day about bronze disease. A sack of tomatoes won't get it off the pedestal quickly, but it's going to corrode them. It's irreversible. 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

9 hours ago, MaybeACoordinator said:

And it isn't ours to decide. The covenant is broken.

[workswithseed 2201]

13 hours ago, David Dennison said:

While he deserves it, something tells me former presidents are safe for now.

There is a high school called The Democrats, and there's a statue by the track. The statue had some graffiti that said slave owner.

Also

Edited June 12, 2020 by workswithseed

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

 

[GW Hayduke 1957]

[tx 3 putt 78470]

a group of people in port arthur are interested in having removed confederate statues relocated to port arthur. im not joking

 

Edited June 12, 2020 by tx 3 putt

[David Dennison 19441]

8 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

a group of people in port arthur are interested in having removed confederate statues relocated to port arthur. im not joking

 

We might as well move them to the most God awful part of the state.

[tx 3 putt 78470]

1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

We might as well move them to the most God awful part of the state.

it's getting very heated, they're dead serious about it

[Pescado_Rojo 19559]

Put them all in Sabine Pass at the battlefield park and hope for a hurricane 

[David Dennison 19441]

1 minute ago, tx 3 putt said:

it's getting very heated, they're dead serious about it

Oh, no doubt. Any time I hear someone say Texas isn't really the south, I just remind them that East Texas is, in fact, in Texas. 

[Pescado_Rojo 19559]

4 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

it's getting very heated, they're dead serious about it

Where in Port Arthur are they planning to put them? I can't imagine the City Council would be okay with putting them on any city land and I can't think of any private land in the city proper that's large enough for more than a couple. Sounds like some Mid-County shit. 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

This Twitter account has more followers than Trump.

 

[kevwun 16270]

Damn, that is bad.  I didn't know anyone had a Forrest statue.

[tx 3 putt 78470]

16 minutes ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

Where in Port Arthur are they planning to put them? I can't imagine the City Council would be okay with putting them on any city land and I can't think of any private land in the city proper that's large enough for more than a couple. Sounds like some Mid-County shit. 

Sabine Pass Battleground State Historic Site

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

 

[Pescado_Rojo 19559]

Yea, so the former "Dick Dowling Park". Seems like they'd have to get permission from the TPW for that....

[Post Oak 20551]

1 minute ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

No wonder the Union won

[Pescado_Rojo 19559]

5 minutes ago, kevwun said:

Damn, that is bad.  I didn't know anyone had a Forrest statue.

@MaybeACoordinator has some great pictures of it. 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

 

[workswithseed 2201]

1 hour ago, tx 3 putt said:

a group of people in port arthur are interested in having removed confederate statues relocated to port arthur. im not joking

 

Ha, that's funny. I don't see why not if they want the statues. 

[Pescado_Rojo 19559]

So what I've been able to read, the plan is to move the statue of Dick Dowling from Memorial Park in Houston to the battleground site in Sabine Pass, which I guess is contextually accurate since that is the battle for which he's famous. I guess the anger comes from the fact that no one bothered to ask the mayor of Port Arthur about it. 

[HenryJames 67116]

1 hour ago, David Dennison said:

We might as well move them to the most God awful part of the state.

Port Arthur it is.

[Catdaddyhorn 3462]

 

Never understood the argument about applying today's morality to the past. Even as a high school kid this sort of dissonance screamed loudly at me.  

[Bama Chick 28596]

Y’all’s football team has some demands.

[Llano Estacado 1257]

3 hr old 450 post thread out front.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

2 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

This Twitter account has more followers than Trump.

 

 

[Bama Chick 28596]

Ewww, I don’t read y’all’s football board - they’re a bunch of fucking crazy people.

 

But I agree with the idea that these kids are finally recognizing their power and are asking for the moon to get what’s really important.

 

That whole thread is focused on the song. And when the players get everything else they demand and the song gets kept but the players are not forced to perform it, 99% of UT fans will react with “WHEW! Thank Vince we get to keep the song!”.

 

With nary a peep about the building names, statues, or asked money investment in causes important to the players.

 

I fully expect to see players at Alabama and Auburn and other big southern football factory universities doing the same.

 

AU is gonna have a problem with “War Eagle”.

[David Dennison 19441]

Just now, Bama Chick said:

Ewww, I don’t read y’all’s football board - they’re a bunch of fucking crazy people.

But I agree with the idea that these kids are finally recognizing their power and are asking for the moon to get what’s really important.

That whole thread is focused on the song. And when the players get everything else they demand and the song gets kept but the players are forced to perform it, 99% of UT fans will react with “WHEW! Thank Vince we get to keep the song!”.

With nary a peep about the building names, statues, or asked money investment in causes important to the players.

I fully expect to see players at Alabama and Auburn and other big southern football factory universities doing the same.

AU is gonna have a problem with “War Eagle”.

I hope they realize they can bring college football to its knees.

[HenryJames 67116]

1 minute ago, Bama Chick said:

Ewww, I don’t read y’all’s football board - they’re a bunch of fucking crazy people.

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13619]

3 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

it's getting very heated, they're dead serious about it

That's just Port Arthur's natural ambience.

[MaybeACoordinator 8350]

Sabine Pass was annexed by Port Arthur in the '70s but it is unlike Port Arthur in every way...The Dowling statue is a good fit for the SP battleground and community but the African American mayor of PA has to take a stand against it.

Though I am not sure if the state park is in Port Arthur city limits or not. 

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

1 hour ago, HenryJames said:

Ok, I can't just give you the rep w/o saying that after wading through some of the DT COVID thread and the board discussion threads lately (before abandoning ship), I am crying here. Well done, sir, well done.

Edited June 13, 2020 by Mrs Whiggins
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[elfenix 34658]

what if the confederate statues are lying broken on the ground at sabine pass?

 

edit: is there a statue of gordon granger?

Edited June 13, 2020 by elfenix

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

 

[mchookem 16729]

2 hours ago, David Dennison said:

I hope they realize they can bring college football to its knees.

with a little assist from covid19

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

 

[cactusflinthead 27626]

 

[cactusflinthead 27626]

Is the base renaming the same as a statue?

Where did I post earlier?

Nvm this'll do 

 

[FORTY NINE TO ZERO 2649]

I didn’t realize people actually lived in Sabine pass. I figured the refineries and hurricanes forced everyone to flee

Edited June 13, 2020 by Xian

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

The social media crowd is saying that the next Confederate statue needing removal is Mitch McConnell.

[washparkhorn 9967]

JP Morgan Chase and Brooks Brothers must be getting nervous. 

As well as:

• New York Life
• Tiffany and Co
• Aetna
• Norfolk Southern
• Bank of America
• E.W. Scripps and Gannett
• Wachovia
• AIG

. . . and many more. 

[MaybeACoordinator 8350]

45 minutes ago, Xian said:

I didn’t realize people actually lived in Sabine pass. I figured the refineries and hurricanes forced everyone to flee

They just built a very expensive-looking citadel of a new school down there -- what few people who are still there seem determined to stay forever. There is also a Coast Guard station and there is even a motel. I think the Boot Scoot Tavern is long gone, though there are still signs pointing to where it used to be. 

One of my ancestors settled there in about 1840...And he was a keeper of the Sabine Light during the war. He was a Unionist from Maine and he hightailed it out of there on one of Granger's boats with his Cajun wife and their eight kids and went back to Maine for the duration. He and his wife came back right after the war and settled in Bolivar, and some of the rest of his kids came back to Sabine Pass later, in the 1880s. My 2xg-grandfather got there just in time to build a house and have it destroyed by the forgotten killer hurricane of 1886. He rebuilt and then along came 1900. He rebuilt again but died before 1915. That was the one that finally drove my ancestors out of there, but only so far as Beaumont and PA. (They were nautical men by trade.)

Sabine Pass is one of many coastal Texas towns that was once envisioned as something much more than it ended up to be. It was supposed to *be* Port Arthur, not one day get annexed by Port Arthur. Man, getting annexed by Port Arthur...that's a sure sign your town has gone to hell if Port Arthur is annexing you. (I am in the tiny minority of Texans who genuinely likes PA, but it's got problems.)

 

[elfenix 34658]

1 hour ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

The social media crowd is saying that the next Confederate statue needing removal is Mitch McConnell.