Texas athletes petitioning University to replace "The Eyes of Texas" and to no longer require athletes to sing it

[CTC2 2,753]

2 hours ago, Skipper said:

 

I don't mind the idea but I don't really give a fuck about Jai Alai's opinion.  He's been here all of 5 months.   If the players want a coaches voice that really matters (outside of Herman), get Giles on board.

Kind of agree that this guy is an interloper and I really don't care what he thinks.  I thought these guys were interested in more than symbolic pandering.  I say nope.

[Nivek 16,873]

4 hours ago, Tex Pete said:

Exactly. Twitter will be the downfall of mankind.

I mean, I have read some monumentally stupid shit on here, well almost daily. But Twitter is like the lowest common denominator.

Writing books will be the downfall of mankind -Socrates

 

[Deej 76,599]

Black shoes so we can be triggered by the raping Miami gave us in the 91 Cotton Bowl. 

[formermav43 4,599]

26 minutes ago, Deej said:

Black shoes so we can be triggered by the raping Miami gave us in the 91 Cotton Bowl. 

We already wear black shoes.

[Deej 76,599]

3 minutes ago, formermav43 said:

We already wear black shoes.

No wonder the last decade has sucked so badly.

[formermav43 4,599]

2 minutes ago, Deej said:

No wonder the last decade has sucked so badly.

Counterpoint

 

[Hiphopopotamos 20,865]

 

[stork642 4,498]

6 hours ago, Tex Pete said:

Exactly. Twitter will be the downfall of mankind.

I mean, I have read some monumentally stupid shit on here, well almost daily. But Twitter is like the lowest common denominator.

Twitter is quite literally the devil’s anus.  It’s instant gratification at its worst.  

[Deej 76,599]

1 minute ago, stork642 said:

Twitter is quite literally the devil’s anus.  It’s instant gratification at its worst.  

Social media...proof that not everyone deserves a voice. 

[stork642 4,498]

9 minutes ago, Deej said:

Social media...proof that not everyone deserves a voice. 

Everyone deserves a voice but not everyone should be listened to or taken seriously.  

[mr. sunshine 2,824]

On a related note I tried to interpret MacArthur Park when I was a kid but couldn’t figure out why the fuck someone would leave a cake out in the rain 

[Majorcholas 507]

31 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

 

The eyes of Texas are upon you (Santa Anna for the Alamo) you cannot get away (revenge is ours) at night or early in the morn (when surprise attacks would take place in battle) till Gabriel blows his horn (a Texan will never forget till Jesus comes back)

We can all make shit up.

[ChickenSandwich 9,803]

36 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

 

Well, that settles it. Cancel the season. It’s just one massive system of oppression. 

[bullet 1,596]

4 hours ago, Fondren & Main said:

This I don’t like, but it doesn’t piss me off.  It just gives me shell shock from the Dook asswhipping.

Alternate uniforms are a good idea----for schools with ugly uniforms like Oregon and Tennessee.

 

[bullet 1,596]

4 hours ago, Armybrat said:

“Outreach program for the inner cities”.

What about the Neighborhood Longhorns program I’ve been donating to through the LHF for decades? Are they not aware of that long established outreach program?

There's programs helping Austin city schools as well.  There is or used to be an elementary program run by the School of Education.

Edited June 20, 2020 by bullet

[Majorcholas 507]

Even better:

the eyes of Texas are upon you (south Austin’s mom) you cannot get away (surly) at night or early in the morn (when she is most active) till Gabriel blows his horn (signal for the next guy’s turn, or something kinky with a dude named Gabe)

[maninblack 7,974]

 

That's fucking dumb

[Valmy77 13,125]

Well damn Mike Adams. We went right from 1903 Minstrel stuff to it being a slave owner song. That escalated quickly.

I wonder if Lovell Pinkney is going to weigh in.

[Bruno Sardine 147]

I'm sorry for being lazy, but just making sure someone has brought up "Glory, Glory."

Glory, glory to old Georgia!
Glory, glory to old Georgia!
Glory, glory to old Georgia!
G-E-O-R-G-I-A

To what "old Georgia" are they nostalgically referring? 

[David Dennison 18,694]

13 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

Well damn Mike Adams. We went right from 1903 Minstrel stuff to it being a slave owner song. That escalated quickly.

I wonder if Lovell Pinkney is going to weigh in.

This reminds me of Mike Adams torching aggy in Austin in 1996. Six catches for 153 yards and 2 TDs.

Ricky ran for 150.

51-15 beatdown.

[Saint Austin 745]

12 minutes ago, Bruno Sardine said:

I'm sorry for being lazy, but just making sure someone has brought up "Glory, Glory."

Glory, glory to old Georgia!
Glory, glory to old Georgia!
Glory, glory to old Georgia!
G-E-O-R-G-I-A

To what "old Georgia" are they nostalgically referring? 

It’s always been more puzzling to me that the song is to the tune of “The Battle Hymn of the Republic.” That is some masochistic shit if there ever was. 

[ImissWallyPryor 9,045]

8 hours ago, NeverMarryAStripper said:

Which is why twitter is such an awesome platform for this discussion

Was Twitter around in 1984?

[Valmy77 13,125]

4 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

This reminds me of Mike Adams torching aggy in Austin in 1996. Six catches for 153 yards and 2 TDs.

Ricky ran for 150.

51-15 beatdown.

Yeah that was a good day. Hell of a player.

That was kind of rough what he said though. 

Edited June 20, 2020 by Valmy77

[ImissWallyPryor 9,045]

8 hours ago, TreatyOak said:

Dammit, Brisket beat me by 9 hours. 

Edited June 20, 2020 by ImissWallyPryor

[Cairn Horn88 8,205]

4 hours ago, formermav43 said:

Counterpoint

 

Black shoes matter.

[PantsTent 2,002]

Well damn Mike Adams. We went right from 1903 Minstrel stuff to it being a slave owner song. That escalated quickly.
I wonder if Lovell Pinkney is going to weigh in.

Lovell Pinkney borrowed a pencil from me in freshman English class and never gave it back. He would always return the mini stapler though

Then he stopped coming to class.

[sheeeit 129]

6 hours ago, HtownHorn said:

Twitter gave a platform for the dumbest morons in society to remove all doubt from the rest of the population how stupid they are. It is the Cloak Room on the cream and the clear.

Might be a bit high but high five for “the cream and the clear” reference.  Can’t stop laughing 

[Tex Pete 20,196]

4 hours ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

 

Mike Adams is entitled to his own opinion but not his own facts. Slavery was outlawed many years before 1903. There would be no reason whatsoever to be singing in 1903 about slaves when the practice had ended 40 years prior. Stop the madness. 

[Valmy77 13,125]

12 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

Mike Adams is entitled to his own opinion but not his own facts. Slavery was outlawed many years before 1903. There would be no reason whatsoever to be singing in 1903 about slaves when the practice had ended 40 years prior. Stop the madness. 

I think he knows that. I presume there is a context to it, since he says "there is your interpretation" so it was probably in the middle of some kind of heated discussion. I think he was just making a point.

Edited June 20, 2020 by Valmy77

[Hiphopopotamos 20,865]

35 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

Mike Adams is entitled to his own opinion but not his own facts. Slavery was outlawed many years before 1903. There would be no reason whatsoever to be singing in 1903 about slaves when the practice had ended 40 years prior. Stop the madness. 

Mike Adams isn’t the first to think that the song is referencing slavery. Other players have talked about it - Rod B mentioned it as well on one of his shows. 

Feel free to call them idiots or liars or disingenuous but the fact is that the very strong feelings about this song are being driven by interpretations like Mike Adams and the history of the Eyes and the tune it’s based on. 

[FORTY NINE TO ZERO 2,630]

41 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

Mike Adams is entitled to his own opinion but not his own facts. Slavery was outlawed many years before 1903. There would be no reason whatsoever to be singing in 1903 about slaves when the practice had ended 40 years prior. Stop the madness. 

 I know. I feel like I am taking crazy pills. Is this entire argument based on made up facts?  

[RoundRobin 828]

18 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

Mike Adams isn’t the first to think that the song is referencing slavery. Other players have talked about it - Rod B mentioned it as well on one of his shows. 

Feel free to call them idiots or liars or disingenuous but the fact is that the very strong feelings about this song are being driven by interpretations like Mike Adams and the history of the Eyes and the tune it’s based on. 

I’m pretty sure I saw Mike Adams’ feelings being driven into a camera shop on Guadalupe. 

[Valmy77 13,125]

22 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

Mike Adams isn’t the first to think that the song is referencing slavery. Other players have talked about it - Rod B mentioned it as well on one of his shows. 

Feel free to call them idiots or liars or disingenuous but the fact is that the very strong feelings about this song are being driven by interpretations like Mike Adams and the history of the Eyes and the tune it’s based on. 

Really? Well damn. Ok then. I stand corrected.

[notre dame joe 173]

On 6/18/2020 at 10:23 PM, 4th_and_18 said:

Or the academics wanted his statue removed from campus because he was a known plagiarist and his dissertation was a fraud? For example.

Destroying history was not invented in 2020.  Ancient civilizations have examples of missing statues and graves because a king had petty jealousy of his predecessors.  I'm sure at the time he had reasons why they were evil people. 

18 hours ago, JohnLocke said:

Football used to be a place to escape politics. Now it's gone all cloak room too. Ugg.

You've heard why Billy the Kid robbed banks?

[Valmy77 13,125]

Fortunately statues are not really how we record history anymore. It is not like we would put a statue of Santa Anna on campus to remember significant people in Texas History.

[Tex Pete 20,196]

1 hour ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

Mike Adams isn’t the first to think that the song is referencing slavery. Other players have talked about it - Rod B mentioned it as well on one of his shows. 

Feel free to call them idiots or liars or disingenuous but the fact is that the very strong feelings about this song are being driven by interpretations like Mike Adams and the history of the Eyes and the tune it’s based on. 

I’m aware that he’s not alone, but being flat wrong and being motivated by anger based on those falsehoods is ridiculous. People need to calm down and be open to the facts. That particular line of thinking makes no sense whatsoever. 

[Nivek 16,873]

Lovell Pinkney borrowed a pencil from me in freshman English class and never gave it back. He would always return the mini stapler though

Then he stopped coming to class.

His zipper got stuck

[TejasPedro 1,849]

Every Athlete needs to use the very powerful platform they have been to given to take a knee, stop playing and demand that every politician that has ever broken a promise, to any and all minorities, must resign their position immediately. It is time. We have been bamboozled as a nation for far too long. The Scum sucking politicians must no longer gather around and sing spirituals with the common folk to show empathy and solidarity, only to go back to their mansions on high, laughing all the way to the bank with no intention to change a damn thing. If you are an athlete that comes from a poverty stricken district and nothing has changed since your birth, and the only thing that has stayed the same is your elected official then you have been played. That is the injustice. Eyes of Texas, please, what about the icy Whites. Nothing scares the bajesus out of everyone more then seeing an Angry Mob dressed in all White.

 

[maninblack 7,974]

Adams shot past being wrong about the song straight into lunacy. Can't have a rational discussion with people like that.

[Walden Ponderer 12,639]

8 hours ago, Bruno Sardine said:

To what "old Georgia" are they nostalgically referring? 

The one where Stalin was born. Try to keep up.

Edited June 20, 2020 by Walden Ponderer

[Coelenterate Fuccboi 13,010]

16 hours ago, Burntcowboy said:

Jay is all for it. Traitor 

 

At what point will dark brown people realize that being labeled as black was derogatory to begin with, and is still viewed that way by many people of African descent around the world? There are very few people dark enough to even be considered black. There’s no doubt in my mind that the initial labeling them as black was meant to be belittling.

[KYHorn 16,871]

4 hours ago, Tex Pete said:

I’m aware that he’s not alone, but being flat wrong and being motivated by anger based on those falsehoods is ridiculous. People need to calm down and be open to the facts. That particular line of thinking makes no sense whatsoever. 

I tend to agree, but perception is reality. So, either you have to 1. Change the perception, 2. Replace the Eyes, or 3. A combination of both with a compromise on 2. 1 puts the "old" white admins in the unfortunate position of seemingly explaining away the longtime reality. 2 seems both drastic given the information about the Eyes known at this time and quite divisive (probably as divisive as noir doing anything at all). 3 seems to be what most people are hoping for, though for the young advocates, it may take some convincing. Then it's just a matter of finding an agreeable arrangement, which is quite achievable, imo, because there's a ton of options available.

[WBT 20,443]

Figuerelli would think Mike Adams's interpretation is too ridiculous to tweet out

[BrazilHorn 6,577]

I understand and support the player’s requests. 
Part of my challenge in this is I actually don’t really like this team as it’s currently composed as I think they’re by and large a bunch of soft, head-cases. 
I am struggling not conflating the players valid concerns with my desire to have pretty much the entire team rebooted. 
 

I do think CDC playing booster/$ card if that’s true was bad mistake. Herman and Texas went from leaders on the issue of BLM to stepping on their dicks very quickly. 
Someone needs to be grab control. 

[Knighthawk 284]

4 minutes ago, BrazilHorn said:

I understand and support the player’s requests. 
Part of my challenge in this is I actually don’t really like this team as it’s currently composed as I think they’re by and large a bunch of soft, head-cases. 
I am struggling not conflating the players valid concerns with my desire to have pretty much the entire team rebooted. 
 

I do think CDC playing booster/$ card if that’s true was bad mistake. Herman and Texas went from leaders on the issue of BLM to stepping on their dicks very quickly. 
Someone needs to be grab control. 

I actually think this team could be really good and don’t think they are ‘soft’ like some of the Mack years.  Distracted?  Yes.  Adding self made pressure to perform?   Yes.  

Hope they take their anger into the field.  St Darrel says “only angry people win football games”.  

[BrazilHorn 6,577]

2 minutes ago, Knighthawk said:

I actually think this team could be really good and don’t think they are ‘soft’ like some of the Mack years.  Distracted?  Yes.  Adding self made pressure to perform?   Yes.  

Hope they take their anger into the field.  St Darrel says “only angry people win football games”.  

We will see. So many miscues past years, so much squandered talent, dumb play calling. I am the most bearish I’ve ever been on this program right now. 
 

[Newy25 7,638]

17 hours ago, Armybrat said:

“Outreach program for the inner cities”.

What about the Neighborhood Longhorns program I’ve been donating to through the LHF for decades? Are they not aware of that long established outreach program?

Rarely are the people who speak the loudest and with the most confidence the ones most educated on a subject. The charity I work with works in conjunction with LHF in Dallas does a lot of great things. We invest in college exam prep courses for inner city students and teach life skill classes on finances and a wide range of other topics. The fact that this is a demand speaks volumes about who wrote these demands and their complete ignorance about what exists today. 

Unfortunately some of the social media platforms just allow for the constant barrage of the most vocal to be heard even if they are completely unaware of the facts. There is no real rational discussion anymore. That has been replaced with people thinking making quips and mic drop, snarky statements are a way to get your point across. Just read on this thread certain individuals coming in with one-liners about white privilege who offer little, if anything to the discussion. It’s why we should never make big, sweeping decisions based on this emotionally charged banter. It will not lead to anything constructive. 

Edited June 20, 2020 by Newy25

[Knighthawk 284]

8 minutes ago, BrazilHorn said:

We will see. So many miscues past years, so much squandered talent, dumb play calling. I am the most bearish I’ve ever been on this program right now. 
 

Understand the bear and gloom.  I admit the burst in social media is a bad indicator / lack of focus.   
I’m just trying to keep positive that I didn’t flush $5K on tickets this year (again).  

[Armybrat 40,755]

7 minutes ago, Newy25 said:

Rarely are the people who speak the loudest and with the most confidence the ones most educated on a subject. The charity I work with works in conjunction with LHF in Dallas does a lot of great things. We invest in college exam prep courses for inner city students and teach life skill classes on finances and a wide range of other topics. The fact that this is a demand speaks volumes about who wrote these demands and their complete ignorance about what exists today. 

Unfortunately some of the social media platforms just allow for the constant barrage of the most vocal to be heard even if they are completely unaware of the facts. There is no real rational discussion anymore. That has been replaced with people thinking making quips and mic drop, snarky statements are a way to get your point across. Just read on this thread certain individuals coming in with one-liners about white privilege who offer little, if anything to the discussion. It’s why we should never make big, sweeping decisions based on this emotionally charged banter. It will not lead to anything constructive. 

Perhaps the athlete’s lives are so busy with school, sports, and their own charitable work that they have not had the opportunity to learn more of what others have been doing actively or at least contributing to for years before they arrived on campus. 
That’s something CdC & the administration could introduce to the conversations with them. I do believe the Longhorn Network has touched on some of those works by the University and many Exes.

[Hiphopopotamos 20,865]

3 hours ago, maninblack said:

Adams shot past being wrong about the song straight into lunacy. Can't have a rational discussion with people like that.

Well the Pres and the AD better try - because this is where at least some of the players are starting from.