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3 hours ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

Are you reading anything in particular? If so and you have time, would love to learn your sources. Maybe it's because we've moved around frequently, but in every place we've lived, I've tried to learn a little about the history of the local community and then the state. It explains a lot, that backward look. Maybe not always accurate in my case as I naturally introduce my own biases, but nonetheless, it can provide useful info for a variety of things. (like in the case of highways and roads or why a town was developed and so on).

 In the case of the Tulsa Race Massacre it might have been envy of success as much as anything. The widespread destruction of their business district and what that did to the community there was just horrible. The North side just languished for decades and decades after that, and then 244 was built (I44) and that changed the area north of downtown forever, putting the blight out of sight for many families in automobiles...my folks, now deceased, didn't speak much of the Jim Crow laws, nor did they ever discuss the Massacre, but then again, their suburban home was built on land that used to be sharecropped or owned by black farmers, farmers that were pushed out by rising taxes due to sprawl.

Our landlord in Madison (WI) had been displaced by local leaders when he was a child, a son of Italian immigrants in the Greenbush neighborhood. The city called it a slum area and in the name of urban renewal in the 1960s tore down homes etc but the worst was that they tore down the church, knowing that was the lifeblood of the community. By the time we moved there, all that remained were a handful of spaghetti houses (Antonio's was a fave) and the Italian Workingman's Club was still standing, but redevelopment and the hospital had done what they were intended to do. The African American families were pushed further south as well, and then the Beltline segregated their housing from the rest of the city. We haven't lived there in years so I imagine it is all changed now, too. If you like reading, I think there are articles online about it. The community leaders later had a historical marker placed in the general neighborhood along the bay.

 

It's all jumbled together and mixed up with so many different things: money, power, class, race, poverty, religion, attitudes about others, assumptions, competition, cultural assumptions, and ego.

 

originally was watching a show on The Bronx which had a highway going through it which was said to divide the borough along racial boundaries and decided to look into it more by researching highways that divide minority neighborhoods and got a lot of pretty interesting articles:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/07/16/how-railroads-highways-and-other-man-made-lines-racially-divide-americas-cities/
https://www.nashville.gov/Portals/0/SiteContent/Planning/docs/trans/EveryPlaceCounts/1_Highway to Inequity.pdf
https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2018/feb/21/roads-nowhere-infrastructure-american-inequality
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/07/13/why-highways-have-become-the-center-of-civil-rights-protest/
https://dianerehm.org/2016/05/24/how-highway-construction-has-affected-listeners-lives
https://www.dmagazine.com/frontburner/2016/03/the-racist-legacy-of-americas-innercity-highways/
https://www.kcrw.com/news/shows/greater-la/robert-fuller-freeways-urbanism-race/la-freeways
https://archive.thinkprogress.org/top-infrastructure-official-explains-how-america-used-highways-to-destroy-black-neighborhoods-96c1460d1962/
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/03/role-of-highways-in-american-poverty/474282/

There's a lot about this but I'ma stop here.  

 

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1 hour ago, JimmyJames said:

Republicans are always the victim. It’s basically all they do now. Play the victim. 

They’re too stupid to realize there is a difference between the two sentences below 

I am being denied something because of my skin color 

I am being denied something because of the way I treat other people with different skin colors. 

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3 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Gaetz’s family is worth 30 million dollars but he had his “Friends of Matt Gaetz” campaign cut the 1k check to the Ronald McDonald House.

Look uh, the family office is between banks right now.  Lots of uh, cash equivalents, money markets, what have you.  We could run this through the foundation but you know...co-mingling of funds between the family office and the endowment is uh...Sarbanes-Oxley and what-not.  So filings this week and so forth.  What we could do though is uh...stroke a check signed by me from my campaign funds to a non-profit.  Because in zero worlds in this universe does that make any modicum of remote sense, in any way.  Rich Congressman?  Check.  Rich family?  Check.  Wanting to help a legit non-profit fundraiser with a simple $1000 donation that any individual or family foundation could take advantage of?  NAH, we're gonna involve the fucking FEC in this little girl's fundraising endeavor.  

Do any of you current Trumpers/Gaetz guys even understand what the finances of a wealthy person look like?  If you have all those options at your disposal, through which to run a simple $1000 donation...you don't pick a fucking campaign check as your best idea.  What the fuck?  It's beyond stupid.  It's the worst possible route to take unless you and your family don't really have that kinda cash laying around.  You're all $195/year earners trying to ball like you're worth a liquid $195mm.  The tax cuts didn't do shit for you and you're fucking stupid for thinking Trump is this mass-billionaire.  Gaetz is just a little microcosm of the scam run on you by Trump.  No foundation, no family office, no charitable endeavors, no yacht, no plane, just a shuffling of assets every month to serve an illusion.  And then the music stops every few months, get out the campaign checkbook to help Peter pay Paul.  

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On 4/3/2021 at 3:27 PM, Bullneck said:

Gov. Ron DeSantis has yet to take any questions about long-time political ally Matt Gaetz’s growing sex scandal. But liberal group Progress Florida suggests the public deserves some answers from Florida’s chief executive.

In an email blast on Friday, Progress Florida posited a dozen questions DeSantis should answer, even if he hasn’t been directly implicated in Gaetz’s alleged misdeeds. Many stem from DeSantis’ gubernatorial campaign in 2018, when Gaetz was a near-constant presence at DeSantis’ side and ultimately led his transition team. More recently, Gaetz has touted DeSantis as a presidential candidate on right-wing outlets like Fox News.

Progress Florida’s questions include some basics still unaddressed on this, day three of GaetzGate:

— Do you have a reaction to the accusations against him?

— When and how did you learn about these accusations?

 

— Have you spoken to him about them?

— When was the last time you spoke to him?

These could satiate curiosity regardless of DeSantis’ answers. The Governor has been known in the past to make hard breaks with former associates, such as Susie Wiles, who helped manage his victorious but close race for Governor in the final stretch.”

Some dig for information on what Gaetz may have shared in the past, particularly based on allegations he showed nude photos to fellow members of Congress, where DeSantis was a close colleague:

— Did he ever show you pictures of nude women he claimed to have slept with?

 

— Are you aware of him paying women for sex?

— Are you aware of Gaetz ever having had sexual contact with a minor?

Based on the now-widely discussed reputation Gaetz had in political circles for wild behavior, Progress Florida suggests the Governor explain ever putting the Congressman in a position of influence, asking the following questions:

— Gaetz already had a reputation when you hired him to manage your transition. Can you explain why you’re friends and why you trusted him with such an important job?

— Would you consider hiring him again?

— Do you believe Gaetz or his accusers?

Finally, the group suggests DeSantis weigh in on some criminal elements and the matter of consequence:

— Do you have any knowledge of Gaetz using ecstasy or other illegal drugs?

— Do you think he should resign?

It seems unlikely DeSantis will forever evade questions about Gaetz, though it’s also doubtful he will address the full dozen pointed queries. But it may at least give regional reporters at popup sites and promotional events to bring some hard-hitters to the Q&A.

De Santis is too busy evading questions on Covid vaccinations to worry about Gaetz.

 

 

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On 4/3/2021 at 9:54 PM, WhatTheBuck said:

There was a piece on the local news recently about how the same thing happened in Columbus when the freeways were built. That’s probably true all over the country. 

Add some sweet, sweet gerrymandering and we got ourselves a cluster.  

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33 minutes ago, pyrohornIII said:

De Santis is too busy evading questions on Covid vaccinations to worry about Gaetz.

 

 

Gaetz is radioactive.  Trump is the only guy that can defend a predator because he's a predator and he can't get Matt's last name right.  De Santis literally has enough bodies to conceal that he can't help Gaetz.  Loved how Matt grabbed Tucker Carlson and tried to bring him into his circle and Tucker backed away and said naw man, you're crazy.  

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It's amazing in retrospect how much time he went around giving quotes that essentially boil down to "I've had lots of sex."

Every person I ever knew who needed to bring that up constantly was hiding something.  With some it was just insecurity about their masculinity.  Others it was their sexual orientation.  You do you Matt, but maybe work on your issues some and try to be a decent human.

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14 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

What happened to his "imminent" arrest?

I believe the tweet that used that term suggested that it meant "within a couple of weeks."  

Which is not really any normal person's definition of "imminent," unless you think Trump's health care plan is imminent.

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36 minutes ago, NameAlreadyInUse said:

It's amazing in retrospect how much time he went around giving quotes that essentially boil down to "I've had lots of sex."

be fair, he didn't say straight sex.  he didn't even specify whether it was sex with another person.

i can only assume that at this point, in order to maintain victim status, he's going to admit to chronic masturbation without his consent.

why do the libs always have to put everything in a box?

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1 hour ago, NameAlreadyInUse said:

It's amazing in retrospect how much time he went around giving quotes that essentially boil down to "I've had lots of sex."

Every person I ever knew who needed to bring that up constantly was hiding something.  With some it was just insecurity about their masculinity.  Others it was their sexual orientation.  You do you Matt, but maybe work on your issues some and try to be a decent human.

I've never really understood why some guys want to constantly talk/brag about their sex life. No one cares. And I've noticed that some of these guys are also pressing others to talk about sex as well. 

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7 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I've never really understood why some guys want to constantly talk/brag about their sex life. No one cares. And I've noticed that some of these guys are also pressing others to talk about sex as well. 

I know a guy like that and it's creepy. Any female I'm in contact with in any situation... Did you fuck her? WTF?

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4 minutes ago, RPM said:

I know a guy like that and it's creepy. Any female I'm in contact with in any situation... Did you fuck her? WTF?

I remember a documentary about Ted Haggard when he was still a pastor for a megachurch in CO. He's on camera trying to get the younger married men to talk about sex with their wives. "Jesus wants us to have sex with our wife, tell me about what your wife does to you..." I'm paraphrasing but it was more than odd. Turns out he wanted to hear more about the young husband not the wife.

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Just now, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I remember a documentary about Ted Haggard when he was still a pastor for a megachurch in CO. He's on camera trying to get the younger married men to talk about sex with their wives. "Jesus wants us to have sex with our wife, tell me about what your wife does to you..." I'm paraphrasing but it was more than odd. Turns out he wanted to hear more about the young husband not the wife.

This guy is hyperreligious, too. It's just creepy the way he swings from one extreme to the other. Yeah, I want to fuck that rando chick, but first let's hold hands and say grace over this delicious meal made by these illegals.

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Although she's an unfunny joke thief, Amy Schumer has a great bit that's applicable to Matt Gaetz...

"Gaetz finally slept with my high school crush.  And now she expects him to go to her graduation?  Like Matt knows where he's gonna be in two years."  

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