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Scott Jennings on CNN is a total cunt, but, he just posed an interesting question:

Gaetz resigned from THIS Congress (118th??).   He's also been (re)elected to the NEXT Congress.  Jennings asks if, assuming the wheels come off this nomination, can he just show up in January and be sworn in to his "old" seat? 

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4 hours ago, Born to Run said:

Pretty sure the regulars on this board are beyond fucking pissed at MG, Joe and  bunch of other fucks that didn't fix shit that we could; but ultimately we couldn't stop Republicans from voting for this piece of shit and covering for him and gaslighted the entire country for four years. That effort was the problem  Now we all reap the whirlwind.

 

It should have never gotten out of primaries Full Stop.

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The Democrats didnt have a Primary. Your leadership just anointed Kamala. 

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4 hours ago, Captainant said:

Lol balconies got triggered. I can't disagree that our justice system moves too slowly with dangerous predators, but it's not the Democrats throwing sand in those gears.... Republicans have been blocking and tackling any effort of oversight. 

Keep up hating pedophiles while voting for em, Balcony

Slow? Biden’s DOJ/FBI ended the Gaetz investigation in 2023 after deciding not to bring any charges. It can’t be slow if they ended it. 

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6 hours ago, Chad Fuck said:

Totally necessary for that fucking guy. Butthead here torches all the evidence against tfg and then as a bonus gets to torch the evidence against himself.

And unlike Barr, traitor to truth, justice and the American way that he was, there won’t be an ethical or legal line Gaetz won’t cross in service of Der Fuhrer. 

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5 hours ago, Balcones said:

Slow? Biden’s DOJ/FBI ended the Gaetz investigation in 2023 after deciding not to bring any charges. It can’t be slow if they ended it. 

You'll find no argument from me that Merrick Garland was derelict in his duty as the head of the justice department 

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10 hours ago, Gil Bang said:

Scott Jennings on CNN is a total cunt, but, he just posed an interesting question:

Gaetz resigned from THIS Congress (118th??).   He's also been (re)elected to the NEXT Congress.  Jennings asks if, assuming the wheels come off this nomination, can he just show up in January and be sworn in to his "old" seat? 

Don't think that's how it works but we seem to be leaving the rules behind on a lot of things so who knows... 

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17 minutes ago, Dr. Teeth said:

He wants to read it for some good porn. Then vote for him. 

Well, yeah. I doubt he wants to fall out a window. 

Speaking of which, I wonder if there is a betting market for % increase in causes of death for 2025.  I’m definitely taking “accidentally fell out of window/balcony” if so. 

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8 minutes ago, Pancho said:

This dude is mentally ill

 

That's a wild article, here's something from towards the end:

Two incidents have defined Gaetz’s tenure in Congress and helped make him a household name. The first was the Department of Justice’s 2020 investigation into whether he had sex with a minor and violated sex-trafficking laws. Gaetz has repeatedly and vehemently denied the claims. That probe was dropped in early 2023, but the House Ethics Committee is still investigating those claims, as well as others—including allegations that Gaetz shared sexual images with colleagues. One video, multiple sources told me, showed a young woman hula-hooping naked. A former Gaetz staffer told me he had watched from the back seat of a van as another aide showed the hula-hooping video to a member of Congress. “Matt sent this to me, and you’re missing out,” the aide had said. (A spokesperson for Gaetz declined to comment for this article, saying that it “contains verifiable errors and laundered rumors” without identifying any. “Be best,” he wrote.)

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15 hours ago, Gil Bang said:

Scott Jennings on CNN is a total cunt, but, he just posed an interesting question:

Gaetz resigned from THIS Congress (118th??).   He's also been (re)elected to the NEXT Congress.  Jennings asks if, assuming the wheels come off this nomination, can he just show up in January and be sworn in to his "old" seat? 

Yes, seperate terms and all. I doubt we know that quick whether or not Gaetz will make it through to confirmation before January.

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I feel like the fix is in with this entire nomination perhaps even to a point that Trump doesn't plan on Gaetz being AG.

Timeframe:

  • The ethics investigation was set to be released tomorrow, the 15th
  • Gaetz is named as the AG nominee AND he resigned from Congress on the 13th
  • By resigning, the ethics probe is no longer needed and may be locked away
  • The Senate committee have said they want to see ethics report
  • (Theory) Gaetz withdraws his AG nomination and DeSantis reappoints Gaetz back to his House seat
  • (Theory) Once reinstated, it's possible that the ethics probe findings are moot since it occurred during his previous tenure not current (Shakiest part of my theory)

This could all be Trump helping Gaetz to avoid the ethics probe findings from being made public. My guess is that if the House Ethics committee announces they are releasing the findings, Gaetz will take them to court to prevent it.

Any holes in this theory? 

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Matt Gaetz would oversee US prisons as AG. He thinks El Salvador’s hardline lockups are a model

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/14/politics/matt-gaetz-attorney-general-el-salvador-prison-bukele/index.html

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As he stood inside the echoing hall of the prison, Matt Gaetz seemed impressed.

“There’s a lot more discipline in this prison than we see in a lot of the prisons in the United States,” said Gaetz, then a congressman, now announced as President-elect Donald Trump’s pick for US attorney general.

It was July, and Gaetz — who will oversee the Federal Bureau of Prisons if he becomes attorney general — was visiting El Salvador’s notorious Terrorism Confinement Center (Cecot), where gang leaders and murderers are locked up and from which they are never released.

The prison is a concrete manifestation of the hardline rule of El Salvador’s President Nayib Bukele, who is often berated by human rights groups for flouting norms but largely credited inside his country for returning safety to the streets.

Related articleExclusive: Locking eyes with mass murderers in El Salvador

“This is the solution” for El Salvador, Gaetz added, in a video released by Bukele. “We think the good ideas in El Salvador actually have legs and can go to other places and help other people be safe and secure and hopeful and prosperous.”

Last month, CNN was the first major US news organization to be granted access to Cecot on a private tour, seeing the recently built fortress where both convicts and some men still facing trial spend 23½ hours a day in bleak group cells, eat a bland meatless diet and have just 30 minutes a day for exercise or Bible class.

It’s one part of Bukele’s upstart transformation of El Salvador that he has achieved by upending the system, giving law enforcement new powers under a rolling state of emergency, getting his nominees to the Supreme Court and then asking that Supreme Court to allow him to run for a previously unconstitutional second term. Bukele is well aware of the emotions he stirs — both positive and negative — and has dubbed himself the “world’s coolest dictator” and now “philosopher king” in his X bio.

Trump has at times both praised and denounced Bukele — when he was in the White House he lauded cooperation with El Salvador’s then-new leader, but he turned critic once he was out of power and focused on immigration, saying Bukele was sending criminals to the US.

But Gaetz appears to be an out-and-out fan. He told Time Magazine he considered Bukele a “kindred spirit,” and the pair greeted each other warmly as Gaetz led other congressmen into Bukele’s office during the July visit. That trip came just a month after Gaetz, Donald Trump Jr. and others traveled to Bukele’s second inauguration.

Related articleCritics denounce their government as a dictatorship. But these people say they’ve never felt so free

Gaetz founded a congressional El Salvador caucus with Democratic Rep. Vicente Gonzalez of Texas in July in a rare moment of bipartisanship.

Announcing the new group in the House of Representatives, Gaetz said: “Through the inspiration from El Salvador’s astonishing transformation, the great American rejuvenation can become a reality as well, so that we can experience a triumphant return of safety and prosperity that we once inspired in others.”

Should he face interviews and a Senate confirmation hearing for the position of attorney general, Gaetz may well be asked about his thoughts on Bukele’s approach to crime and criminal justice and how that might influence his position as attorney general. The US could even suggest the El Salvador model be tried across Central and South America, where violence and instability drives many of the migrants heading to the relative safety and prosperity of the US, though there would likely be strong opposition inside and outside those countries.

Last week, even as the State Department lowered its travel advisory for El Salvador, citing a “significant reduction” in crime, it also warned that Bukele’s state of emergency allows authorities to “arrest anyone suspected of gang activity and suspends several constitutional rights.”

The Salvadoran president wasted no time in congratulating Gaetz on his selection as Trump’s AG pick, posting on X, “I knew you were destined to do great things, my friend.”

 

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3 hours ago, pacman said:

Yes, seperate terms and all. I doubt we know that quick whether or not Gaetz will make it through to confirmation before January.

He can’t even be nominated before Trump is sworn in can he?

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3 hours ago, C-Man said:

Matt Gaetz would oversee US prisons as AG. He thinks El Salvador’s hardline lockups are a model

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/14/politics/matt-gaetz-attorney-general-el-salvador-prison-bukele/index.html

 

He better be careful of getting his wish given his proclivity in breaking certain laws and potentially even more if he has more power.

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7 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I feel like the fix is in with this entire nomination perhaps even to a point that Trump doesn't plan on Gaetz being AG.

Timeframe:

  • The ethics investigation was set to be released tomorrow, the 15th
  • Gaetz is named as the AG nominee AND he resigned from Congress on the 13th
  • By resigning, the ethics probe is no longer needed and may be locked away
  • The Senate committee have said they want to see ethics report
  • (Theory) Gaetz withdraws his AG nomination and DeSantis reappoints Gaetz back to his House seat
  • (Theory) Once reinstated, it's possible that the ethics probe findings are moot since it occurred during his previous tenure not current (Shakiest part of my theory)

This could all be Trump helping Gaetz to avoid the ethics probe findings from being made public. My guess is that if the House Ethics committee announces they are releasing the findings, Gaetz will take them to court to prevent it.

Any holes in this theory? 

My theory is simple. Trump put up somebody that’s unpopular with many in his own party. It’s a loyalty test. 

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Was watching Seth Meyers' A Closer Look tonight and apparently the plan to appoint Gaetz as AG was hatched over a few hours on Trump's plane on the way to Washington yesterday. Gaetz was on the plane. This all happened unbeknownst to Susie Wiles, who was in another area of the plane while this was happening.

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My theory is simple. Trump put up somebody that’s unpopular with many in his own party. It’s a loyalty test. 

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Was watching Seth Meyers' A Closer Look tonight and apparently the plan to appoint Gaetz as AG was hatched over a few hours on Trump's plane on the way to Washington yesterday. Gaetz was on the plane. This all happened unbeknownst to Susie Wiles, who was in another area of the plane while this was happening.

Hahahaha. So the infighting begins. Yes!
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17 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I feel like the fix is in with this entire nomination perhaps even to a point that Trump doesn't plan on Gaetz being AG.

He does though. It’s not a joke. He really intends to have Gaetz, Gabbard, Kennedy and the rest. If he gets them he wins, but either way he’s ringing the division bell with every act and any Republican who attempts to stop him will never get back in the good graces of the party, and he further consolidates control. 
The gears of history are in motion.

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He does though. It’s not a joke. He really intends to have Gaetz, Gabbard, Kennedy and the rest. If he gets them he wins, but either way he’s ringing the division bell with every act and any Republican who attempts to stop him will never get back in the good graces of the party, and he further consolidates control. 
The gears of history are in motion.

This. Any other theories are just copium. 

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11 hours ago, C-Man said:

Was watching Seth Meyers' A Closer Look tonight and apparently the plan to appoint Gaetz as AG was hatched over a few hours on Trump's plane on the way to Washington yesterday. Gaetz was on the plane. This all happened unbeknownst to Susie Wiles, who was in another area of the plane while this was happening.

I think this will be repeated many times over the next 4 years.  It is what we should expect. 

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2 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

He does though. It’s not a joke. He really intends to have Gaetz, Gabbard, Kennedy and the rest. If he gets them he wins, but either way he’s ringing the division bell with every act and any Republican who attempts to stop him will never get back in the good graces of the party, and he further consolidates control. 
The gears of history are in motion.

I think Trump expects these appointments to succeed and I think the Senate will rollover and accept them.  Trump has already said he will just do recess appointments.  So, what is the upside for a Senator to oppose somebody like Gaetz? There isn't any upside.

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Wasn't there a constant problem for Trump's chiefs of staff where they constantly had to attempt to keep people away from Trump as he would consistently listen to the last voice he heard? and since people know this, they would look for ways around the chief of staff.

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9 minutes ago, Pancho said:

So Mike Johnson is telling the Ethics Committee to not release the report on Gaytz

I'm sure Johnson is going to say that it's an incomplete report, or that Gaetz didn't have a chance to appeal the findings, etc. etc.  The fix was always in. They will find a judge to agree, and the Ethics Committee has no standing to  "complete" their report.

What's the saying that when the facts are not on your side, argue the law. I bet we never see the report. At best the witnesses could publicly state their side but do you really want to go against Trump and the potential AG?

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