COVID-19 2nd wave - Texas only - Stats and such

[huge 3788]

Mask report from last week.

Texas City Buc-ees 80%

The Big Store on Bolivar 50%

29.2 Surf Shop on Bolivar 0% (I was the only person in there with a mask on).

Restaurants were predictably lax, but that's everywhere as far as I can tell.

 

With the Galveston County closing beaches we left on Friday.  Before we left we drove down (Crystal Beach area) and noticed that they were not really enforcing the beach ban but crowds were a FRACTION of what they would have been.  

[atomheartbevo 89447]

15 hours ago, FartingMonk said:

Why don't you just fly her to new York and ship the car with a service.  

Or post pics - half of Surly might be willing to drive her up and quarantine with her for two weeks.

Edited July 6, 2020 by atomheartbevo

[atomheartbevo 89447]

4 hours ago, Texaus said:

This is why she cheated on, divorced, and still refuses to speak to you.

2 hours ago, bolverk said:

I know it's not a word. Its usage was meant as a joke much like several other shaggyisms that get bandied about.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/is-irregardless-a-real-word-heh-heh

 

[atomheartbevo 89447]

10 hours ago, rpspeed said:

Texas mask order won't be enforced by law enforcement in these places

Some elected law enforcement officials worry about lawsuits. Others have said their offices are too busy. Almost all of them that are looking the other way say they believe Texas Governor Greg Abbott has overstepped his bounds.

They're part of a growing number of agencies that are choosing to look the other way when citizens aren't wearing face coverings as ordered by Abbott earlier this week.

Adler is now publicly asking Abbott for more local control, for a shutdown, and says the ICUs will be full in 10-14 days.  At this point, Abbott may be more than happy to let the cities do their own thing.

Then you have these law enforcement guys telling Abbott to fuck off, and Abbott either has to exert his authority (as he did over the cities in May), or risk having this thing continue to spread and the hospitals to fill up.

 

[htown85 159]

14 hours ago, Bevo said:

I've been out of town for a week (BTW, the Seattle airport was a shit show last Thursday. Bergstrom was much better in terms of crowds and the percentage of people wearing masks.). Can y'all give me a rundown on how Austin and Texas have been doing this past week and how the prospects are for next week? Considering how the airports were this past week, I expect overall fail for the US. Heavy travel and resort patrons not wearing masks will cause further spread. I thought airplanes were pretty bad too as people weren't wearing masks for a good percentage of the flight as they ate and drank, a decent percentage of patrons using bandanas or not covering their noses, and all kids under 5 not wearing masks.

Not sure about Austin but Houston has been slowly declining since the mid-June peak (6/19-6/24).  Seems to be spreading to smaller counties, though, which is pushing the state-wide numbers up.

[atomheartbevo 89447]

Was out jogging this morning, and saw three guys get out to play tennis at our neighborhood park.  No masks, all in close quarters to each other, etc.  I guess they played for a little while, but when I came back by, the three of them were clustered together, like 2 feet apart, still no masks, and bitching while a Parks and Rec employee was taking the tennis nets down.

Talk about a helluva lack of self-awareness.  What they were doing was exactly why we are having to close down a lot of stuff. 

[Skipper 6103]

9 minutes ago, htown85 said:

Not sure about Austin but Houston has been slowly declining since the mid-June peak (6/19-6/24).  Seems to be spreading to smaller counties, though, which is pushing the state-wide numbers up.

So what are thoughts behind Houston's more positive updates as of late?  Do we think people there started taking it more seriously before the rest of the State since numbers in Houston seemed to start peaking a week or so before everywhere else? Is there currently adequate testing in place or could lack of tests/delayed results be masking the actual positvity rate?  We touched on this some, but I'm a little concerned that's about to start happening in Dallas given the publicity over long testing lines and long backlog.

[LebongJames 1787]

11 minutes ago, htown85 said:

Not sure about Austin but Houston has been slowly declining since the mid-June peak (6/19-6/24).  Seems to be spreading to smaller counties, though, which is pushing the state-wide numbers up.

Austin has been declining/ staying steady in cases since the peak. I do believe hospitalizations have risen though. We currently have 446 patients in local hospitals with 137 in icu.

[MNLonghornFUKM 8799]

Was out jogging this morning, and saw three guys get out to play tennis at our neighborhood park.  No masks, all in close quarters to each other, etc.  I guess they played for a little while, but when I came back by, the three of them were clustered together, like 2 feet apart, still no masks, and bitching while a Parks and Rec employee was taking the tennis nets down.

Talk about a helluva lack of self-awareness.  What they were doing was exactly why we are having to close down a lot of stuff. 

I’d put outdoor tennis, with or without masks, near the bottom for risk

 

 

Maybe all 3 were loud moaners

[atomheartbevo 89447]

25 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Adler is now publicly asking Abbott for more local control, for a shutdown, and says the ICUs will be full in 10-14 days.  At this point, Abbott may be more than happy to let the cities do their own thing.

For the record, while it feels like Austin would do a shutdown if Abbott allowed it, I put it at about 75% we won't be getting another shutdown, because there are no more stimulus checks/whatever coming out of DC.   It's a lot easier to stomach if you know that at least some people and businesses will be getting additional help.

Edited July 6, 2020 by atomheartbevo

[atomheartbevo 89447]

1 minute ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

I’d put outdoor tennis, with or without masks, near the bottom for risk

Same with golf, although in the case I saw this morning, these guys were breathing hard and within a few feet of each other.  Then again, maybe they are roommates.

But if they close down some park amenities and facilities, they pretty much have to close them all, or you get the Karens out bitching that golfers and tennis players get to do their thing, while they can't work with their personal trainers in the parks or let their kids run around on the playscape.

[Captainant 27464]

3 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

But if they close down some park amenities and facilities, they pretty much have to close them all, or you get the Karens out bitching that golfers and tennis players get to do their thing, while they can't work with their personal trainers in the parks or let their kids run around on the playscape.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crab_mentality

[drt 637]

11 minutes ago, LebongJames said:

Austin has been declining/ staying steady in cases since the peak. I do believe hospitalizations have risen though. We currently have 446 patients in local hospitals with 137 in icu.

?

https://austincovidcount.com/ doesn't indicate that at all, unless I'm misunderstanding

 

[LebongJames 1787]

It’s not rising and new daily cases are lower than the two day peak we saw a week ago. It’s been 7 days with no daily cases higher than we saw at the 2 day peak. 
 

Not significantly lower but still lower.

[htown85 159]

22 minutes ago, Skipper said:

So what are thoughts behind Houston's more positive updates as of late?  Do we think people there started taking it more seriously before the rest of the State since numbers in Houston seemed to start peaking a week or so before everywhere else? Is there currently adequate testing in place or could lack of tests/delayed results be masking the actual positvity rate?  We touched on this some, but I'm a little concerned that's about to start happening in Dallas given the publicity over long testing lines and long backlog.

Given the many sources / moving parts of reporting, testing, etc....I don't know how anyone can confidently know.  My gut is that it's a combination of people taking this more seriously and the virus spread just working its way through the community.

[BradInATX 9208]

It’s not rising and new daily cases are lower than the two day peak we saw a week ago. It’s been 7 days with no daily cases higher than we saw at the 2 day peak. 
 
Not significantly lower but still lower.

It's lower because we had two days under 300 cases which were obviously lag, lack of tests or some other technical blip. We have the highest positive test percentage on Earth. Hospitalizations have increased by 600% in 3 weeks and still ticking up. There is no way we are actually on a downslope yet. Although I'm hoping we will be soon with the new regulations.

[drt 637]

Ah ok, I get what you're looking at now.  I just don't trust the most recent data in that chart as being indicative of much with testing and reporting delays being what they are now.  For all we know we could have a huge catch up day on Tuesday and the trend would be wrecked.  If we make it to the end of the week and the trend line on new cases is still pointing down, I'll probably be more hopeful we're on the right track. 

I'm really hoping the hospitalization rates start to level off more than anything.

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

2 hours ago, dcar00 said:

no line this morning at the urgent care near my work. 2 cars in their covid testing stalls.  first time in about 2 weeks. went from 20 to 10 to 5 to 2.  might just be the holiday though.

what point is there of getting tested if the results don't come back for 10-14 days and there is no contact tracing done for positives?

[justhookit 4180]

51 minutes ago, Skipper said:

So what are thoughts behind Houston's more positive updates as of late?  Do we think people there started taking it more seriously before the rest of the State since numbers in Houston seemed to start peaking a week or so before everywhere else? Is there currently adequate testing in place or could lack of tests/delayed results be masking the actual positvity rate?  We touched on this some, but I'm a little concerned that's about to start happening in Dallas given the publicity over long testing lines and long backlog.

My guess is it’s a testing issue but I haven’t really followed Houston’s numbers. We are definitely seeing that problem in Corpus. It’s still probably too early even for Houston to see positive returns correlating to behavior changes. And now with the unfortunate timing of the holiday weekend I’m thinking we won’t know much until mid July.

 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13414]

Two views of Houston. New cases (greater Houston) look to be plateauing or dropping. But hospitalizations (Texas Med Center only) are up. If cases hopefully have plateaued or dropping, I assume the hospitalization could continue to grow for another week or so before we see a drop.

 

[justhookit 4180]

Along those lines Nueces was WAY down yesterday to 203. Sunday, holiday weekend, and out of county tests. About 10 days ago that would have been a record high. Hospitalizations up 16 and ICU up 3. Overall a good day. Hospital numbers probably start getting ugly sometime this week.

[Mitch Cumsteen 18523]

38 minutes ago, drt said:

Ah ok, I get what you're looking at now.  I just don't trust the most recent data in that chart as being indicative of much with testing and reporting delays being what they are now.  For all we know we could have a huge catch up day on Tuesday and the trend would be wrecked.  If we make it to the end of the week and the trend line on new cases is still pointing down, I'll probably be more hopeful we're on the right track. 

I'm really hoping the hospitalization rates start to level off more than anything.

It's probably best to look at 7 day average to get any kind of sense about what is going on.  Even then, there is such a lag between testing, results and reporting that who knows how accurate any of this is. Still, I find this chart for Bexar County informative. There are such wild swings in the data from day to day -- 1268 cases on 6/30,  439 on 7/1, 1334 cases 7/3 and 198 7/5 -- I'm not sure how you make sense of any daily reporting.

https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/UERQw/31/

 

[Burt Macklin 18998]

 

10 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Two views of Houston. New cases (greater Houston) look to be plateauing or dropping. But hospitalizations (Texas Med Center only) are up. If cases hopefully have plateaued or dropping, I assume the hospitalization could continue to grow for another week or so before we see a drop.

 

I’ll be very happy if the cases are truly plateauing or dropping. Lord knows we need it, but the combination of seeing certain counties report decreased tests available, longer lag time to get results, plus a holiday weekend potentially causing under-reporting gives reason for skepticism over the lower numbers. It will probably take a week or two to actually know if cases are dropping or if this is just a temporary decrease in cases reported due to those factors. Hopefully that first chart of daily growth in cases continues trending down. 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13414]

3 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

 

I’ll be very happy if the cases are truly plateauing or dropping. Lord knows we need it, but the combination of seeing certain counties report decreased tests available, longer lag time to get results, plus a holiday weekend potentially causing under-reporting gives reason for skepticism over the lower numbers. It will probably take a week or two to actually know if cases are dropping or if this is just a temporary decrease in cases reported due to those factors. Hopefully that first chart of daily growth in cases continues trending down. 

fair point. we also might have a drop in testing because people wanted to enjoy the weekend. "I have a cough and fever, but I will wait until Monday to get tested"

[MNLonghornFUKM 8799]

fair point. we also might have a drop in testing because people wanted to enjoy the weekend. "I have a cough and fever, but I will wait until Monday to get tested"

I follow MN and ND daily and both had weird reporting for tests vs the last month or so. And MN had an uncharacteristic high positive % of 7.9 or somethin vs the normal 2.5-4

 

 

I’d take today’s numbers with a grain of salt

[Armybrat 40744]

2 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Was out jogging this morning, and saw three guys get out to play tennis at our neighborhood park.  No masks, all in close quarters to each other, etc.  I guess they played for a little while, but when I came back by, the three of them were clustered together, like 2 feet apart, still no masks, and bitching while a Parks and Rec employee was taking the tennis nets down.

Talk about a helluva lack of self-awareness.  What they were doing was exactly why we are having to close down a lot of stuff. 

Sumbitches like those assholes don’t ever think the rules apply to themselves.

[bschoolprof 6232]

the positivity rate in houston is dropping as well, which is a good sign

[Armybrat 40744]

1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

For the record, while it feels like Austin would do a shutdown if Abbott allowed it, I put it at about 75% we won't be getting another shutdown, because there are no more stimulus checks/whatever coming out of DC.   It's a lot easier to stomach if you know that at least some people and businesses will be getting additional help.

I think there will be another round of stimulus checks.... November comin’ up you know.

Edited July 6, 2020 by Armybrat

[atomheartbevo 89447]

38 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

fair point. we also might have a drop in testing because people wanted to enjoy the weekend. "I have a cough and fever, but I will wait until Monday to get tested"

[atomheartbevo 89447]

52 minutes ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

It's probably best to look at 7 day average to get any kind of sense about what is going on.  Even then, there is such a lag between testing, results and reporting that who knows how accurate any of this is. Still, I find this chart for Bexar County informative. There are such wild swings in the data from day to day -- 1268 cases on 6/30,  439 on 7/1, 1334 cases 7/3 and 198 7/5 -- I'm not sure how you make sense of any daily reporting.

https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/UERQw/31/

Those wild swings feel like the testing issues from early on.

[BTW 370]

I'll try to spoiler this so I don't longcat the thread, but I made a spreadsheet showing infections and infection rates by county through this morning.  It was not a comparison I had seen done on this thread so far:

 

Spoiler

COVID-19 Cases and Fatalities by County as of 7/05 at 10:45AM CST
County	Cases	Fatalities	County Population	Infection Rate
Maverick	519	5	5,875	8.83%
McLennan	1,636	11	36,488	4.48%
Moore	897	15	20,615	4.35%
El Paso	6,953	135	182,439	3.81%
Jones	610	0	19,704	3.10%
Walker	2,081	8	75,055	2.77%
Matagorda	262	5	9,860	2.66%
Lamar	325	13	12,696	2.56%
Potter	2,937	39	116,744	2.52%
Martin	18	1	740	2.43%
Titus	742	4	33,793	2.20%
Parmer	215	8	9,872	2.18%
Grimes	557	2	29,190	1.91%
Anderson	1,082	2	58,854	1.84%
Deaf Smith	355	17	19,461	1.82%
Brewster	143	1	9,128	1.57%
Gonzales	306	4	20,659	1.48%
Hale	500	7	33,987	1.47%
Bailey	102	1	7,256	1.41%
Hays	3,088	7	226,853	1.36%
San Augustine	114	7	8,656	1.32%
Castro	99	1	7,672	1.29%
Crane	60	9	4,696	1.28%
Dallam	91	1	7,310	1.24%
Starr	760	3	63,406	1.20%
Frio	233	0	19,735	1.18%
Galveston	3,990	46	339,241	1.18%
Shelby	287	10	24,624	1.17%
Victoria	1,063	3	92,059	1.15%
Jefferson	2,727	35	253,046	1.08%
Willacy	229	0	21,475	1.07%
Brazos	2,401	33	228,292	1.05%
Caldwell	437	2	42,956	1.02%
Nueces	3,593	11	361,387	0.99%
Red River	117	12	12,071	0.97%
Sherman	30	0	3,116	0.96%
Camp	123	2	12,843	0.96%
Dallas	24,778	395	2,650,320	0.93%
Lavaca	184	1	20,447	0.90%
Travis	11,131	2,637	1,260,620	0.88%
Pecos	131	0	14,870	0.88%
Panola	216	24	24,573	0.88%
Lubbock	2,620	52	307,870	0.85%
Washington	289	0	35,801	0.81%
Donley	27	0	3,359	0.80%
Chambers	352	2	43,819	0.80%
Harris	35,913	400	4,714,391	0.76%
Houston	171	0	23,319	0.73%
Bexar	14,553	122	1,991,779	0.73%
Brazoria	2,715	22	383,058	0.71%
Schleicher	21	0	3,099	0.68%
Nacogdoches	443	26	65,483	0.68%
Texas Total	195,239	0	28,901,062	0.68%
Lynn	39	1	5,942	0.66%
Cameron	2,779	67	425,849	0.65%
Tarrant	13,423	233	2,064,380	0.65%
Webb	1,831	31	281,964	0.65%
Randall	918	7	142,446	0.64%
Hartley	36	2	5,647	0.64%
Floyd	36	0	5,698	0.63%
Kaufman	758	5	128,122	0.59%
Angelina	541	9	92,353	0.59%
Hansford	31	2	5,405	0.57%
Medina	295	2	52,191	0.57%
Navarro	283	6	50,263	0.56%
Val Verde	285	1	50,624	0.56%
Wharton	230	28	41,141	0.56%
Gray	121	4	21,657	0.56%
Dawson	70	1	12,544	0.56%
Hunt	533	8	97,442	0.55%
Uvalde	150	0	27,691	0.54%
Madison	45	0	8,311	0.54%
Hidalgo	4,798	58	890,414	0.54%
Concho	11	0	2,044	0.54%
Andrews	103	1	19,232	0.54%
Bastrop	468	6	88,296	0.53%
Ochiltree	53	2	10,012	0.53%
Rusk	283	3	53,959	0.52%
Fort Bend	4,120	56	786,213	0.52%
Duval	57	0	10,949	0.52%
Guadalupe	849	3	165,452	0.51%
Swisher	38	1	7,421	0.51%
Harrison	339	30	68,682	0.49%
Colorado	104	0	21,662	0.48%
Burleson	87	0	18,381	0.47%
Bowie	458	13	97,488	0.47%
Franklin	50	0	10,748	0.47%
McCulloch	20	0	4,340	0.46%
Grayson	633	5	137,479	0.46%
DeWitt	96	1	20,860	0.46%
Comal	690	9	149,993	0.46%
Roberts	4	0	872	0.46%
Briscoe	7	0	1,535	0.46%
Jim Wells	189	0	41,518	0.46%
Coryell	336	2	74,095	0.45%
Crosby	26	1	5,769	0.45%
Hardin	260	5	58,370	0.45%
Calhoun	97	3	21,915	0.44%
Liberty	390	3	88,248	0.44%
Midland	772	15	175,630	0.44%
Hudspeth	16	0	3,655	0.44%
Ector	718	9	165,230	0.43%
Williamson	2,469	3	571,610	0.43%
Bell	1,523	13	356,587	0.43%
Refugio	29	0	6,817	0.43%
Yoakum	38	5	9,109	0.42%
Lee	72	3	17,373	0.41%
Rockwall	395	16	97,807	0.40%
Fayette	104	3	25,816	0.40%
Zapata	56	1	13,903	0.40%
Cherokee	212	2	53,375	0.40%
Hemphill	15	0	3,779	0.40%
Jim Hogg	20	0	5,129	0.39%
Montgomery	2,353	37	610,513	0.39%
Denton	3,279	37	861,357	0.38%
Crockett	13	0	3,428	0.38%
Winkler	29	5	7,696	0.38%
Wheeler	19	1	5,059	0.38%
Menard	8	0	2,134	0.37%
Tom Green	434	1	117,278	0.37%
Milam	92	1	25,288	0.36%
Orange	303	5	84,866	0.36%
Taylor	494	6	138,849	0.36%
Jackson	53	1	15,302	0.35%
Karnes	53	0	15,304	0.35%
Reagan	13	0	3,756	0.35%
Glasscock	5	0	1,448	0.35%
Scurry	59	0	17,129	0.34%
Morris	42	0	12,258	0.34%
Polk	170	0	49,856	0.34%
Hutchinson	70	0	20,591	0.34%
Erath	146	1	43,366	0.34%
Smith	771	4	230,086	0.34%
Collin	3,409	46	1,018,952	0.33%
Lipscomb	11	0	3,320	0.33%
Gregg	417	13	126,215	0.33%
Trinity	48	136	14,643	0.33%
Wichita	436	0	133,814	0.33%
Waller	175	28	54,349	0.32%
Johnson	553	4	173,191	0.32%
Robertson	57	0	17,937	0.32%
Fannin	112	7	35,347	0.32%
Nolan	45	0	14,551	0.31%
Live Oak	37	0	12,042	0.31%
Burnet	145	3	48,190	0.30%
Fisher	11	1	3,708	0.30%
Reeves	47	0	15,853	0.30%
Sutton	11	0	3,745	0.29%
Hockley	68	1	23,232	0.29%
Cottle	4	1	1,373	0.29%
Terry	36	0	12,478	0.29%
San Patricio	187	0	65,960	0.28%
Presidio	19	0	7,014	0.27%
Lampasas	20	0	7,403	0.27%
Atascosa	135	2	50,276	0.27%
Kleberg	87	1	32,580	0.27%
Blanco	31	1	11,835	0.26%
Wilson	132	42	51,077	0.26%
Limestone	61	1	23,725	0.26%
Austin	81	0	31,724	0.26%
Hamilton	22	1	8,625	0.26%
Brown	99	13	39,470	0.25%
Parker	344	1	138,007	0.25%
Kenedy	1	0	412	0.24%
Sabine	27	1	11,138	0.24%
Terrell	2	0	843	0.24%
Lamb	50	0	21,220	0.24%
Mason	34	0	14,468	0.24%
Wood	98	5	45,229	0.22%
San Jacinto	63	0	29,507	0.21%
Leon	37	0	17,453	0.21%
Kerr	111	1	52,575	0.21%
Ward	24	0	11,372	0.21%
Bee	69	0	33,039	0.21%
Hill	76	1	36,532	0.21%
Collingsworth	6	0	2,943	0.20%
Henderson	168	4	82,422	0.20%
Zavala	25	0	12,338	0.20%
Van Zandt	112	0	56,596	0.20%
Falls	34	0	17,346	0.20%
Hood	120	4	61,334	0.20%
Wise	135	0	69,647	0.19%
Goliad	15	0	7,869	0.19%
Oldham	4	1	2,100	0.19%
Kendall	90	0	47,453	0.19%
Garza	12	0	6,360	0.19%
Hopkins	70	1	37,163	0.19%
Young	34	0	18,304	0.19%
Runnels	17	0	9,693	0.18%
Upshur	70	0	40,998	0.17%
Gillespie	45	0	27,016	0.17%
Jasper	61	1	36,746	0.17%
Jeff Davis	4	0	2,481	0.16%
Freestone	33	0	20,472	0.16%
Upton	6	0	3,743	0.16%
Cass	48	2	30,892	0.16%
Armstrong	3	0	1,949	0.15%
Aransas	35	0	23,031	0.15%
Cooke	61	0	40,176	0.15%
Comanche	21	1	13,915	0.15%
Coke	5	1	3,340	0.15%
Mitchell	12	0	8,135	0.15%
Culberson	3	0	2,154	0.14%
Callahan	19	2	14,102	0.13%
Delta	7	0	5,254	0.13%
Hardeman	5	0	3,761	0.13%
Gaines	28	0	21,200	0.13%
Palo Pinto	38	2	28,865	0.13%
Jack	12	0	9,229	0.13%
Dimmit	13	0	10,020	0.13%
Kimble	6	0	4,722	0.13%
Brooks	9	0	7,242	0.12%
Shackelford	4	0	3,263	0.12%
Ellis	1,046	19	855,623	0.12%
Irion	2	0	1,652	0.12%
Tyler	27	0	22,474	0.12%
Howard	43	1	36,004	0.12%
Bandera	27	0	22,874	0.12%
Somervell	11	0	9,604	0.11%
Carson	7	0	6,158	0.11%
Real	4	0	3,600	0.11%
Rains	14	0	12,641	0.11%
Montague	21	1	19,631	0.11%
Edwards	2	0	1,912	0.10%
Childress	7	0	7,007	0.10%
Wilbarger	12	3	12,548	0.10%
Knox	3	0	3,393	0.09%
Dickens	2	0	2,271	0.09%
Newton	12	0	13,692	0.09%
Haskell	5	0	5,764	0.09%
Clay	9	0	10,428	0.09%
Bosque	16	0	18,882	0.08%
Archer	8	0	9,625	0.08%
Stephens	8	0	9,703	0.08%
Motley	1	0	1,225	0.08%
San Saba	5	0	6,224	0.08%
Sterling	1	0	1,294	0.08%
Throckmorton	1	0	1,525	0.07%
Hall	2	1	3,095	0.06%
Eastland	11	0	18,416	0.06%
Kinney	2	0	3,711	0.05%
Llano	11	0	21,863	0.05%
La Salle	21	0	50,279	0.04%
Coleman	3	0	8,483	0.04%
Cochran	1	0	2,931	0.03%
Baylor	1	0	3,740	0.03%
Mills	1	0	4,940	0.02%
Marion	29	1	255,816	0.01%
Borden	0	0	666	0.00%
Foard	0	0	1,205	0.00%
Kent	0	0	764	0.00%
King	0	0	254	0.00%
Loving	0	0	103	0.00%
McMullen	0	0	57,272	0.00%
Stonewall	0	0	1,409	0.00%

 

[rpspeed 1351]

2 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Was out jogging this morning, and saw three guys get out to play tennis at our neighborhood park.  No masks, all in close quarters to each other, etc.  I guess they played for a little while, but when I came back by, the three of them were clustered together, like 2 feet apart, still no masks, and bitching while a Parks and Rec employee was taking the tennis nets down.

Talk about a helluva lack of self-awareness.  What they were doing was exactly why we are having to close down a lot of stuff. 

If 3 people playing tennis without a mask got you riled up, its a good thing you didnt go to Canton Trade Days this past weekend lol

[dcar00 14035]

1 hour ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

what point is there of getting tested if the results don't come back for 10-14 days and there is no contact tracing done for positives?

I actually went to the urgent care to ask them and the people taking the swabs said it was 4-5 days to get results.

[atomheartbevo 89447]

19 minutes ago, rpspeed said:

If 3 people playing tennis without a mask got you riled up, its a good thing you didnt go to Canton Trade Days this past weekend lol

Didn't really rile me up (last week before the mask order, the park was loaded with kids and parents not social distancing or wearing a mask and that was...irritating), but it was just damned ironic that they were bitching about the nets begin taken down, while they were engaging in the very behavior that led to said nets being taken down.

[UT_OB1 2200]

We've been told 2-3 days for the nasal swab from the clinic we use.  Finger prick is in/out with results in an hour or 2

[Buzzrock 14871]

Perspective on how the US is doing vs everyone else

[Nice Guy Eddie 13414]

Someone should walk away from a clinic that is telling them it's 2 weeks for test results. I don't even know if the sample is still viable by that point. But regardless, you're working with a clinic that is not really helping the patient. 

[TwiceHorn 31282]

Well, I finally got a couple of cheapo surgical masks to replace our bandana masks.

It is much easier to breathe through those masks than the double-thickness bandanas.

Doesn't seem like they cover a whole lot better either.  Maybe around the nose.

Could it be that a bandana is a more effective mask?

[Enchubben 5509]

1 hour ago, BTW said:

I'll try to spoiler this so I don't longcat the thread, but I made a spreadsheet showing infections and infection rates by county through this morning.  It was not a comparison I had seen done on this thread so far:

 

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County	Cases	Fatalities	County Population	Infection Rate
El Paso	6,953	135	182,439	3.81%
Galveston	3,990	46	339,241	1.18%
Dallas	24,778	395	2,650,320	0.93%
Travis	11,131	2,637	1,260,620	0.88%
Harris	35,913	400	4,714,391	0.76%
Texas Total	195,239	0	28,901,062	0.68%

 

So Travis County has 25% the population of Harris County but 6+ times the number of fatalities? 

[smoky 837]

13 minutes ago, Enchubben said:

So Travis County has 25% the population of Harris County but 6+ times the number of fatalities? 

Something's not lining up with that graph.  2,637 is Texas' total.

 

Travis' death count is at 136

[gsoda3 3236]

38 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Well, I finally got a couple of cheapo surgical masks to replace our bandana masks.

It is much easier to breathe through those masks than the double-thickness bandanas.

Doesn't seem like they cover a whole lot better either.  Maybe around the nose.

Could it be that a bandana is a more effective mask?

doubt it.  what kind of seal is your double bandana providing?

[Captainant 27464]

46 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Well, I finally got a couple of cheapo surgical masks to replace our bandana masks.

It is much easier to breathe through those masks than the double-thickness bandanas.

Doesn't seem like they cover a whole lot better either.  Maybe around the nose.

Could it be that a bandana is a more effective mask?

In my anecdotal view, I think it's just that bandanas are more restrictive to air passing through them, while the masks are (theoretically, at least) easier to breath with and do a good/better job filtering out some droplets. I definitely fuck with a purpose-made mask less on my face than I did with a bandana though, and that adds up too.

[BTW 370]

39 minutes ago, Enchubben said:

So Travis County has 25% the population of Harris County but 6+ times the number of fatalities? 

Yeah, I guess it didn't paste correctly:

[Tailgate 3018]

1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

Well, I finally got a couple of cheapo surgical masks to replace our bandana masks.

It is much easier to breathe through those masks than the double-thickness bandanas.

Doesn't seem like they cover a whole lot better either.  Maybe around the nose.

Could it be that a bandana is a more effective mask?

A Dr can answer better than I can...but from my stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night...it appears the humidity you create with “any” cloth mask on your face helps you to not spread it.

Also...there is a Longhorn owned store in ATX that sells some cheap nice masks. $9.95 for two. I can’t count how many I’ve given away to family and friends that ask about them when they see one. I bought more last week. I get the ones labeled “Pom.”

SuePatrick.com

[elfenix 34171]

aggregated google maps data for texas, though not sure how useful the graphs are due to being for ants and the %+/- is absurdly large

 

https://www.gstatic.com/covid19/mobility/2020-06-27_US_Texas_Mobility_Report_en.pdf

[rpspeed 1351]

2 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Well, I finally got a couple of cheapo surgical masks to replace our bandana masks.

It is much easier to breathe through those masks than the double-thickness bandanas.

Doesn't seem like they cover a whole lot better either.  Maybe around the nose.

Could it be that a bandana is a more effective mask?

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/research-identified-most-least-effective-132900374.html

So, what are the best face masks for COVID-19?

This is how the study breaks face masks down by effectiveness, from most to least effective:

• A stitched mask made from quilting cotton

• A cone mask

• A folded handkerchief

• A bandana

[Skipper 6103]

Dallas is +1,214 cases and 6 deaths.    They don't share detailed hospitalization data until tomorrow (and the Friday data is always better) but the screen shots of the trend lines for "suspected COVID" hospital admits, ICU and ER visits is not good.   

[atomheartbevo 89447]

Furk

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/06/health/texas-coronavirus-cases-child-care-facilities/index.html

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As parents nationwide wonder if it's safe to send kids back to day care, Texas is grappling with a surge of Covid-19 cases from child care centers.

At least 1,335 people have tested positive from child care facilities in Texas, the state's Department of Health and Human Services reported Monday, citing figures from Friday.

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Of those infected, 894 were staff members and 441 were children. The cases came from 883 child care facilities that are open in the state, DHHS said. 

The new cases mark a significant increase from June 15, when there were 210 reported cases from 177 facilities -- including 141 staff members and 69 children.

 

[GreenspointTexas 9567]

Shocker

[mdmost 42865]

The exact same thing will occur when school returns in the fall. Teachers and staff will get sick. Kids will be carriers and bring it home with them just like they do with norovirus, the Flu, and stomach bugs. It will come down to people being okay with doing that and realizing you cannot send your kids to school if you have people at home who are in the danger categories if they get Covid. Teachers who might be in the same zone will not be teaching kids. Or we're all having in-home learning again this fall.