COVID-19 2nd wave - Texas only - Stats and such

[Longhorn_Fan68 33825]

Negative! Wewt, go moderna! So they delivered on their 1-2  business days

[GTX Horn 1707]

6 hours ago, dcbc said:

Update.  She's on a vent.  In response to that post, some dumbass responded that they need to get her off the vent and give her the ivermictin or get her out of that hospital and take her to one that will (a veterinary hospital, I presume). 

[Stringer 1436]

6 hours ago, Anastasis said:

BTW 109 new admits in ATX.  Enjoy the weekend assholes. 

[mchookem 16095]

nm

Edited August 7, 2021 by mchookem

[Anastasis 23375]

19 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Don’t overthink it. A sizable percentage of our population is functionally psychotic toddlers.

*are

[Anastasis 23375]

12 hours ago, DDD Dad said:

FIFY

[Wulaw Horn 18963]

23 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

While I 100% disagree with the anti-COVID vaxxers, I can at least comprehend reasoning on why someone doesn't want a vaccine they don't believe in. These are stupid people but I understand their point of view. It's like how I would reject a TexAgs poster if they told me to eat horse paste from Tractor Supply. I ain't doing it.

But refusing a COVID test and yelling at HR over it? Yes, COVID tests are unpleasant. No one wants to get one but its a 100% harmless test to discover if people could be spreading COVID. I wouldn't want to work with anyone lacking that much common sense. 

And yelling or cussing at HR? That person should be walked to the door at that moment. If you're really upset with a policy, go outside and yell at a tree. Or have the balls to go cuss out the CEO or top level person on-site.

Counterpoint- HR in every organization I’ve ever been in deserves an occasional yelling at and cussing on general principal. 

[Bevo 13493]

3 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Counterpoint- HR in every organization I’ve ever been in deserves an occasional yelling at and cussing on general principal. 

[Wulaw Horn 18963]

14 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I think its great if there are studies of ivermectin but I'm skeptical when some doctors are calling it a miracle cure. It could very well help lessen COVID but I have faith that the pharma industry would be hyping it if they really believed that.

It's mindblowing how people are latching themselves onto HCQ or ivermectin as miracles when the real scientific breakthroughs are the vaccines and some simple behavioral changes.

I guess people want to do nothing until they're extremely sick and then they want the medical community to quickly cure them. Of course you see this with normal healthcare issues as well. I want to eat, drink whatever I want, perform no exercise, gain 100 lbs, and then do you have a pill that will end this diabetes and heart problems?

Yeah- that mind set doesn’t make any sense to me at all. If you are willing to drink horse paste you are concerned about this thing- on some level I can totally respect the logic of the dude that’s like- hey- this thing is overhyped and no big deal I’m not going to worry about it. Don’t agree with that risk assessment but ok.  It if you are resorting to dumbass home remedy type cures you are concerned about this thing in some level so why don’t you get the ducking shot?  My nature is I generally don’t have any problem with people holding what I believe to be wrong or stupid beliefs if they are at least internally logical and consistent with themselves. These people have none of that. 

[bluto 4873]

Tax free weekend in Tx

[Muy Frio 182]

Anyone here familiar with this site? https://covidactnow.org/?s=21451070

It has Covid case data for all different jurisdictions, even down to cities and counties. From the looks of it the hotspots that have low vaccination rates are trending down. 
 

 

Texas looks like it’s plateauing. 
 

although looking again, I question it a bit. Why is there no spike shown in the winter? 

Edited August 7, 2021 by Muy Frio

[Pato del Muerto 52322]

How can the cases per 100k and infection rate be so different for ark and Tex if both numbers are normalized?

[South Austin 52037]

9 hours ago, Stringer said:

Looks like Owen Wilson.

[JesusSweatDuck 17780]

1 hour ago, Muy Frio said:

Anyone here familiar with this site? https://covidactnow.org/?s=21451070

It has Covid case data for all different jurisdictions, even down to cities and counties. From the looks of it the hotspots that have low vaccination rates are trending down. 
 

 

Texas looks like it’s plateauing. 
 

although looking again, I question it a bit. Why is there no spike shown in the winter? 

No idea about the site, but the lack of winter peak is extremely suspect

[Brisketexan 104465]

Looks like Owen Wilson.

No, it’s Owen Wilson.

[South Austin 52037]

6 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

No, it’s Owen Wilson.

Not falling for that joke again.

[Radical Larry 28523]

Wow

[WBT 20397]

4 hours ago, Muy Frio said:

Anyone here familiar with this site? https://covidactnow.org/?s=21451070

It has Covid case data for all different jurisdictions, even down to cities and counties. From the looks of it the hotspots that have low vaccination rates are trending down. 
 

 

Texas looks like it’s plateauing. 
 

although looking again, I question it a bit. Why is there no spike shown in the winter? 

3-4 months with an infection rate of 1.1 is a peak

[bschoolprof 6232]

In this wave, Austin has now exceeded Covid hospitalizations (general and ICU) from the 1st wave.  2nd wave will likely be breached (or close to breached) soon.  

[Biff Tannen 45477]

On 8/6/2021 at 1:24 PM, JesusSweatDuck said:

and they're saying horse paste (ivermectin) is some miracle cure that science won't recognize.  

My anti-vaxx sister sent me a list of “vitamins” to take since I tested positive and ivermectin was the very first thing. 

[Schulz2.0 28752]

2 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

My anti-vaxx sister sent me a list of “vitamins” to take since I tested positive and ivermectin was the very first thing. 

It'll take care of that heartworm too.

[CooterBrown 17875]

Wife’s Fox News watching aunt just texted that her nurse friend in Dallas said 90% of their COVID patients in ICU are vaccinated.

My wife replied “you don’t have any friends.”

[atomheartbevo 89362]

4 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

My anti-vaxx sister sent me a list of “vitamins” to take since I tested positive and ivermectin was the very first thing. 

I have a close relative who mentioned they are hearing about folks being treated with "the horse medicine" and are bouncing back from being in bad shape to completely healthy within a day or two.

Said relative also bragged about how his doctor didn't get vaccinated, has never had it, and advises people against it and a lot of other preventative measures. This doctor also works at the local hospital (it's a rural area). I told him that his doctor probably got the vaccine early on, else he either would have had it or would not be working at the local hospital (their website mentions that their staff is vaccinated).

I asked him "Do you know how you will know that your doctor's patients are taking his advice?" 

His response was "when his patients are doing just fine?"

I responded with "No, when your doctor rolls up in a new Mercedes or buys a new house, that's how you will know his patients are taking his advice."

[atomheartbevo 89362]

This is the third doctor I've heard of directly from relatives/friends, who are telling people not to get the vaccine, and not for any actual medical reason.

Seems like that shit should be headed for a malpractice lawsuit if somebody fucks around and finds out.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13391]

5 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

This is the third doctor I've heard of directly from relatives/friends, who are telling people not to get the vaccine, and not for any actual medical reason.

Seems like that shit should be headed for a malpractice lawsuit if somebody fucks around and finds out.

I would like to hear the actual quote from these doctors who are reportedly telling people not to get the vaccine. I’ve run across docs that tailor their message in an attempt to steer a reluctant, individual patient to the best option that the patient will allow.

Example, I could see a patient ask their doc about the vaccine in a tone that indicates they (patient) are anti covid vax. The doc could waste their time by trying to change the mind of the idiot. Or the doctor could work to convince them to at least social distance or wear a mask. 

people hear what they want to hear. But I do agree that doctors are not 100% vaccinated so I wouldn’t be surprised if some are advising against it.

[Liquor and Poker 3659]

8 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

This is the third doctor I've heard of directly from relatives/friends, who are telling people not to get the vaccine, and not for any actual medical reason.

Seems like that shit should be headed for a malpractice lawsuit if somebody fucks around and finds out.

Lots of am“my friend’s cousin’s doctor”s and “sister-in-law’s college roommate who is a nurse”s out there.  
 

It’s this shit all over again:

[Post Oak 20182]

13 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

My anti-vaxx sister sent me a list of “vitamins” to take since I tested positive and ivermectin was the very first thing. 

 

 

[Enchubben 5509]

So my wife and I are vaccinated as are the immediate family I see frequently, but I do have neighbors and friends and extended family that are not.

The excuses I hear from the ones not wanting the shot are:

• ”I already tested positive in the spring so I have antibodies and don’t want to take the shot”

• “I’m trying to get pregnant and don’t trust the vaccine to not effect my pregnancy”

• “The government is trying to control my life/conspiracy, slippery slope etc”

• “I have a weakened immune system so I can’t get it”

The ones that have ended up getting vaccinated with these initial opinions, did it because the have friends or relatives that have gotten sick and/or died from it and we’re scared straight.

I think we could do a much better job oh highlighting personal stories from those that didn’t get vaccinated and ended up getting very sick (or relatives of those that died from it) to do some public outreach in trying to gather support for additional vaccinations from people that think alike.

Because this (like everything else) has become very political, my team vs your team, I think it would help for more conservative type folks to be spreading the word to conservatives, latinos to other latinos etc. 

 

[Post Oak 20182]

7 minutes ago, Enchubben said:

So my wife and I are vaccinated as are the immediate family I see frequently, but I do have neighbors and friends and extended family that are not.

The excuses I hear from the ones not wanting the shot are:

• ”I already tested positive in the spring so I have antibodies and don’t want to take the shot”

• “I’m trying to get pregnant and don’t trust the vaccine to not effect my pregnancy”

• “The government is trying to control my life/conspiracy, slippery slope etc”

• “I have a weakened immune system so I can’t get it”

The ones that have ended up getting vaccinated with these initial opinions, did it because the have friends or relatives that have gotten sick and/or died from it and we’re scared straight.

I think we could do a much better job oh highlighting personal stories from those that didn’t get vaccinated and ended up getting very sick (or relatives of those that died from it) to do some public outreach in trying to gather support for additional vaccinations from people that think alike.

Because this (like everything else) has become very political, my team vs your team, I think it would help for more conservative type folks to be spreading the word to conservatives, latinos to other latinos, etc. 

 

I think this is correct.  I would air stories like that Travis Campbell on CNN guy who got sick, not vaxxed, and asked his 14-year-old if he would walk his sister down the aisle at her wedding if dad didn't make it.

That would peel off some anti-vaxxers.  Just chip away. 

Unless they are immunocompromised they're just being contrarian. Fuck em.

[3adays 454]

There are definitely Doctors in rural parts of Texas who are giving ivermectin to patients with COVID. 

[MissingInAction 24765]

 

 

[DDD Dad 14167]

I don’t see the big deal here. Delta is gonna burn itself out in a week.

[kevwun 15595]

This wave will probably peak by the end of the month, but it's going to be a very terrible few weeks.

[Liquor and Poker 3659]

There’s a WaPo article today -roundtable doctor discussion on risks of Delta, particularly for children.  But my office must have killed their Amazon Prime because it’s paywalled for me all the sudden. While I try to figure that out on a Sunday, anyone read it?  Any insight in it?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2021/07/22/covid-delta-variant-children/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=acq-nat&utm_campaign=runway-2021&utm_content=parenting-deltakids-runway

[LTtxfan 48928]

On 8/6/2021 at 6:39 PM, Deej said:

Next time I get heartworm pills for my dogs, I'll tell the vet i need them for my new dog who is 6'2" and 185 pounds.

Only 185 lbs ??? 😋

[OneOfTheOutOfFocusGuys 2056]

20 minutes ago, Liquor and Poker said:

There’s a WaPo article today -roundtable doctor discussion on risks of Delta, particularly for children.  But my office must have killed their Amazon Prime because it’s paywalled for me all the sudden. While I try to figure that out on a Sunday, anyone read it?  Any insight in it?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2021/07/22/covid-delta-variant-children/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=acq-nat&utm_campaign=runway-2021&utm_content=parenting-deltakids-runway

By Amy Joyce July 22 at 12:16 PM CT This article was updated Aug. 3. For a brief moment, it felt like we parents had made it. School was wrapping up. People, including our kids 12 and older, were getting vaccinated. Mask mandates were easing. But now we’re facing the delta variant — a highly contagious strain of the coronavirus. States with large outbreaks are seeing rising case numbers among children as well as adults. As it reaches into our communities, how does this strain affect children, and how can we help them safely navigate their days? We spoke with infectious-disease specialists about how to handle this widespread variant. Here are their answers to our questions. How dangerous is the delta variant for children? An internal CDC document obtained by The Washington Post July 29 said it is “likely” that the delta variant causes more severe illness than previous variants. That has not been conclusively established, however, and some infectious disease experts have said they do not see persuasive evidence of a difference. One thing is clear: “It is certainly more transmissible,” said Sean O’Leary, vice chair of the Committee on Infectious Diseases for the American Academy of Pediatrics. For comparison, the alpha variant, which was the most predominant in the United States before this one, was estimated to be 50 percent more transmissible than the original coronavirus. The delta variant is 50 to 60 percent more transmissible than the alpha variant. “We’re in this situation where things are opening up while this is more predominant,” O’Leary said. “There are a lot of reasons for concern for all of us in general. Cases have jumped for kids specifically.” [‘The war has changed’: Internal CDC document urges new messaging, warns delta infections likely more severe] The virus’s ability to spread quickly is especially worrisome because only 30 percent of the children who are eligible are vaccinated, according to the CDC. “That’s pitiful,” said Jennifer Lighter, pediatric infectious-disease specialist at New York University Langone Health. Covid-19 and the flu in children have “the same kind of morbidity,” she said, but added, “If it’s preventable, I don’t want any child getting it.” [Many parents still haven’t gotten their adolescent kids vaccinated. What are they waiting for?] The delta variant has become the dominant strain of coronavirus in the United States, resulting in a rise in infections and hospitalizations. (John Farrell/The Washington Post) How can I protect my tweens or teens, if they are vaccinated or if they aren’t? “The most important thing that we can do is everyone who is eligible to be vaccinated, be vaccinated,” O’Leary said. “That is the best way we can protect society and children, including younger children.” In addition, we must use the same measures we have all along to protect vaccinated and unvaccinated children, he said: “Be thoughtful about what you’re doing, where you’re going, and outdoors is safer than in. In larger crowds, wear a mask. And that applies to kids down to 2.” The vaccine is effective in preventing severe disease among recipients, which is a vaccine’s job, said Allison Bartlett, a pediatric infectious-disease specialist with University of Chicago Medicine. “But it doesn’t protect them from getting infected at all,” she said. The best way to avoid the delta variant is just what we’ve been told so far. “Kids playing outdoors together at a playground is reasonable without masks now, even if they’re not vaccinated,” she said. “But when crowds get bigger or move indoors, masking by everyone is important to keep kids safe.” Should I keep my unvaccinated children away from grandparents or other older people? Families need to try to “maintain some sense of sanity and recognize the importance of human contact while trying to be safe,” O’Leary said. For fully vaccinated grandparents, the risk of infection is “very, very low,” he said, adding, “Personally, my kids are both vaccinated, but if they weren’t, I wouldn’t hesitate to have them around their fully vaccinated grandparents.” Lighter, whose parents are very much involved in her children’s lives, said she just follows the safety rules she normally would, pre-coronavirus: “Kid has a sniffle? We’re not seeing my parents.” That said, “the most important thing a parent can do to protect their children is convince their parents to get vaccinated,” Lighter said. Should I keep my kids out of stores and other indoor places? During this phase of the pandemic, O’Leary said, approach the idea of taking unvaccinated children to indoor public places the same way you do during flu season. “In general, for a kid under 12, the risk for them is not the same as influenza, but it’s in the ballpark,” he said. “So the same decisions you’d make during flu season, this is similar.” Making decisions about visiting indoor public spaces can be done on a case-by-case basis, Bartlett said. “If kids don’t need to be out and about, then we can spare them the exposure,” she said. “But if you and your child are masked and in a store that isn’t super crowded, it’s a reasonably safe thing to do, if a place is encouraging masking among others.” [Masks and covid-19: Explaining the latest guidance from the CDC and other experts] What you do also depends on where you live and how viral the spread is in that community. If there is a lot of spread, take more precautions. Finally, if you or your children are in contact with someone who is immunocompromised, you need to take extra precautions. How likely is it that as a vaccinated parent, I could pass along the delta variant to my child? Vaccinated parents who are infected will have some amount of virus that they can spread, Bartlett said, but “it’s less than if not vaccinated.” Also, a “breakthrough infection” among vaccinated people is still very rare, Lighter added. What about the youngest babies and toddlers who might be heading back to daycare soon? How do we protect them? “This speaks to the importance of protecting the vulnerable,” Bartlett says. “Nothing we do is risk free. But having our daycares continue to do what they’re doing — teachers masking, have children 2 and up masking, and not mixing teachers and classrooms — are all things we still need to be doing to keep everyone safe.” [Your questions about coronavirus vaccines, answered] She encourages families, friends and childcare providers to do as much outdoors as possible with the little ones. The risk with delta, she says, is that even a vaccinated person who is feeling okay "could potentially spread and infect someone not vaccinated, and that absolutely includes 6-month-olds in a childcare setting. So I think that vaccinating and masking in schools and childcare settings is the way to go right now.” Should I go along with eased restrictions that seem to be happening at camps now, or re-tighten my own because of the spread of the variant? Bartlett hopes that parents in areas where masks aren’t mandated will make it clear to children that it’s important to mask up when indoors. The kids are protecting themselves, but even more, they are protecting others if, in fact, a kid has the virus and doesn’t know it. She also hopes that adults interacting with children wear masks as well. “We want those around them to wear their masks to protect our child,” she said. How does this affect a return to school? Should I be worried about sending my children back in person? “It makes sense to have layered mitigation measures but to have kids in school,” O’Leary said. “We absolutely want kids in school.” The benefits of in-person school, she and other experts say, outweighs the risks of getting the virus. But schools must keep safety measures in place. “Kids are just missing too much school, and that needs to shift now,” Lighter said. “Not being in school caused a lot of unnecessary harm.” For the vast majority of kids, Bartlett said, “there was less engagement in learning, less social emotional development, no physical therapy, occupational therapy … meals. And having friends and support systems. All those nonacademic components are essential and outweigh the risk of a covid infection if we’re doing everything to minimize the risk.” The CDC and the American Academy of Pediatrics have advised that everyone in schools wear masks, particularly because “you can’t verify who is vaccinated and who isn’t,” Lighter pointed out. If everyone is wearing masks, the chance for spreading the virus is much lower. Although many jurisdictions based their policies on CDC guidance, the CDC is not a regulatory agency and does not have authority to impose policies or enforce its guidance. What do I do if my kids go to schools where masks aren’t mandated? “I’m very concerned about schools that are not mandating mask use,” Bartlett said. “I don’t have great solutions at the moment other than [pointing out that] clearly the AAP is very strong in our opinion about wearing masks all the time in schools where not everyone is vaccinated.” The specialists we spoke to were frustrated about the messaging around masks — from some adults. If a school doesn’t mandate masks, families should make sure their children are wearing them indoors, they said. “Kids do fine with masks. … They understand the rationale behind it,” Bartlett said. “They’re vulnerable and want to get back to hanging out with friends. Masking will allow them to do that.”

[Liquor and Poker 3659]

24 minutes ago, OneOfTheOutOfFocusGuys said:

By Amy Joyce July 22 at 12:16 PM CT This article was updated Aug. 3. For a brief moment, it felt like we parents had made it. School was wrapping up. People, including our kids 12 and older, were getting vaccinated. Mask mandates were easing. But now we’re facing the delta variant — a highly contagious strain of the coronavirus. States with large outbreaks are seeing rising case numbers among children as well as adults. As it reaches into our communities, how does this strain affect children, and how can we help them safely navigate their days? We spoke with infectious-disease specialists about how to handle this widespread variant. Here are their answers to our questions. How dangerous is the delta variant for children? An internal CDC document obtained by The Washington Post July 29 said it is “likely” that the delta variant causes more severe illness than previous variants. That has not been conclusively established, however, and some infectious disease experts have said they do not see persuasive evidence of a difference. One thing is clear: “It is certainly more transmissible,” said Sean O’Leary, vice chair of the Committee on Infectious Diseases for the American Academy of Pediatrics. For comparison, the alpha variant, which was the most predominant in the United States before this one, was estimated to be 50 percent more transmissible than the original coronavirus. The delta variant is 50 to 60 percent more transmissible than the alpha variant. “We’re in this situation where things are opening up while this is more predominant,” O’Leary said. “There are a lot of reasons for concern for all of us in general. Cases have jumped for kids specifically.” [‘The war has changed’: Internal CDC document urges new messaging, warns delta infections likely more severe] The virus’s ability to spread quickly is especially worrisome because only 30 percent of the children who are eligible are vaccinated, according to the CDC. “That’s pitiful,” said Jennifer Lighter, pediatric infectious-disease specialist at New York University Langone Health. Covid-19 and the flu in children have “the same kind of morbidity,” she said, but added, “If it’s preventable, I don’t want any child getting it.” [Many parents still haven’t gotten their adolescent kids vaccinated. What are they waiting for?] The delta variant has become the dominant strain of coronavirus in the United States, resulting in a rise in infections and hospitalizations. (John Farrell/The Washington Post) How can I protect my tweens or teens, if they are vaccinated or if they aren’t? “The most important thing that we can do is everyone who is eligible to be vaccinated, be vaccinated,” O’Leary said. “That is the best way we can protect society and children, including younger children.” In addition, we must use the same measures we have all along to protect vaccinated and unvaccinated children, he said: “Be thoughtful about what you’re doing, where you’re going, and outdoors is safer than in. In larger crowds, wear a mask. And that applies to kids down to 2.” The vaccine is effective in preventing severe disease among recipients, which is a vaccine’s job, said Allison Bartlett, a pediatric infectious-disease specialist with University of Chicago Medicine. “But it doesn’t protect them from getting infected at all,” she said. The best way to avoid the delta variant is just what we’ve been told so far. “Kids playing outdoors together at a playground is reasonable without masks now, even if they’re not vaccinated,” she said. “But when crowds get bigger or move indoors, masking by everyone is important to keep kids safe.” Should I keep my unvaccinated children away from grandparents or other older people? Families need to try to “maintain some sense of sanity and recognize the importance of human contact while trying to be safe,” O’Leary said. For fully vaccinated grandparents, the risk of infection is “very, very low,” he said, adding, “Personally, my kids are both vaccinated, but if they weren’t, I wouldn’t hesitate to have them around their fully vaccinated grandparents.” Lighter, whose parents are very much involved in her children’s lives, said she just follows the safety rules she normally would, pre-coronavirus: “Kid has a sniffle? We’re not seeing my parents.” That said, “the most important thing a parent can do to protect their children is convince their parents to get vaccinated,” Lighter said. Should I keep my kids out of stores and other indoor places? During this phase of the pandemic, O’Leary said, approach the idea of taking unvaccinated children to indoor public places the same way you do during flu season. “In general, for a kid under 12, the risk for them is not the same as influenza, but it’s in the ballpark,” he said. “So the same decisions you’d make during flu season, this is similar.” Making decisions about visiting indoor public spaces can be done on a case-by-case basis, Bartlett said. “If kids don’t need to be out and about, then we can spare them the exposure,” she said. “But if you and your child are masked and in a store that isn’t super crowded, it’s a reasonably safe thing to do, if a place is encouraging masking among others.” [Masks and covid-19: Explaining the latest guidance from the CDC and other experts] What you do also depends on where you live and how viral the spread is in that community. If there is a lot of spread, take more precautions. Finally, if you or your children are in contact with someone who is immunocompromised, you need to take extra precautions. How likely is it that as a vaccinated parent, I could pass along the delta variant to my child? Vaccinated parents who are infected will have some amount of virus that they can spread, Bartlett said, but “it’s less than if not vaccinated.” Also, a “breakthrough infection” among vaccinated people is still very rare, Lighter added. What about the youngest babies and toddlers who might be heading back to daycare soon? How do we protect them? “This speaks to the importance of protecting the vulnerable,” Bartlett says. “Nothing we do is risk free. But having our daycares continue to do what they’re doing — teachers masking, have children 2 and up masking, and not mixing teachers and classrooms — are all things we still need to be doing to keep everyone safe.” [Your questions about coronavirus vaccines, answered] She encourages families, friends and childcare providers to do as much outdoors as possible with the little ones. The risk with delta, she says, is that even a vaccinated person who is feeling okay "could potentially spread and infect someone not vaccinated, and that absolutely includes 6-month-olds in a childcare setting. So I think that vaccinating and masking in schools and childcare settings is the way to go right now.” Should I go along with eased restrictions that seem to be happening at camps now, or re-tighten my own because of the spread of the variant? Bartlett hopes that parents in areas where masks aren’t mandated will make it clear to children that it’s important to mask up when indoors. The kids are protecting themselves, but even more, they are protecting others if, in fact, a kid has the virus and doesn’t know it. She also hopes that adults interacting with children wear masks as well. “We want those around them to wear their masks to protect our child,” she said. How does this affect a return to school? Should I be worried about sending my children back in person? “It makes sense to have layered mitigation measures but to have kids in school,” O’Leary said. “We absolutely want kids in school.” The benefits of in-person school, she and other experts say, outweighs the risks of getting the virus. But schools must keep safety measures in place. “Kids are just missing too much school, and that needs to shift now,” Lighter said. “Not being in school caused a lot of unnecessary harm.” For the vast majority of kids, Bartlett said, “there was less engagement in learning, less social emotional development, no physical therapy, occupational therapy … meals. And having friends and support systems. All those nonacademic components are essential and outweigh the risk of a covid infection if we’re doing everything to minimize the risk.” The CDC and the American Academy of Pediatrics have advised that everyone in schools wear masks, particularly because “you can’t verify who is vaccinated and who isn’t,” Lighter pointed out. If everyone is wearing masks, the chance for spreading the virus is much lower. Although many jurisdictions based their policies on CDC guidance, the CDC is not a regulatory agency and does not have authority to impose policies or enforce its guidance. What do I do if my kids go to schools where masks aren’t mandated? “I’m very concerned about schools that are not mandating mask use,” Bartlett said. “I don’t have great solutions at the moment other than [pointing out that] clearly the AAP is very strong in our opinion about wearing masks all the time in schools where not everyone is vaccinated.” The specialists we spoke to were frustrated about the messaging around masks — from some adults. If a school doesn’t mandate masks, families should make sure their children are wearing them indoors, they said. “Kids do fine with masks. … They understand the rationale behind it,” Bartlett said. “They’re vulnerable and want to get back to hanging out with friends. Masking will allow them to do that.”

Thanks!   So the answer is no - no insight.  

[Eastwood 4394]

So, the TL;DR is that kids need to be in school, but schools need to take precautions. No insight as to what to do if the schools refuse to take precautions. We're so incredibly ready for our young children to be in school, but doing so right now seems like madness.

[justhookit 4174]

So I heard a new excuse last night for not getting vaccinated. “I’m not getting the shot because it only works for 6 months and then you need to get a booster.” So this asshole admits it works but still won’t go get it. His friend has Covid and just got out of the hospital. Fuck these people.

[hornmpa96 2598]

It’s really unbelievable. Even if we need boosters every six months, it’s 2 shots a year and things could return to normal. People are really stupid.

[BrazilHorn 6576]

Good news continues for Travis County in terms of deaths. This time last year for example there were 22 related covid deaths. For the week ending Aug 6th for this year there were only 3.

Vaccinations are making a difference here.

The three deaths break down as:

40 to 49 (1)

60 to 69 (1)

70 to 79 (1)

So while hospitalizations and cases are booming they thus far haven't translated into deaths (unlike last year this time)

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23 minutes ago, hornmpa96 said:

It’s really unbelievable. Even if we need boosters every six months, it’s 2 shots a year and things could return to normal. People are really stupid.

My novice opinion after only 40-odd years on earth is that people are the worst and it’s best to avoid them as much as possible. 

[BrazilHorn 6576]

11 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

My novice opinion after only 40-odd years on earth is that people are the worst and it’s best to avoid them as much as possible. 

This is why I make every effort possible to stay away from the "GP". People suck.

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[Biff Tannen 45477]

4 hours ago, justhookit said:

So I heard a new excuse last night for not getting vaccinated. “I’m not getting the shot because it only works for 6 months and then you need to get a booster.” So this asshole admits it works but still won’t go get it. His friend has Covid and just got out of the hospital. Fuck these people.

I feel like you're starting to get it.  

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3 hours ago, justhookit said:

So I heard a new excuse last night for not getting vaccinated. “I’m not getting the shot because it only works for 6 months and then you need to get a booster.” So this asshole admits it works but still won’t go get it. His friend has Covid and just got out of the hospital. Fuck these people.

3 hours ago, hornmpa96 said:

It’s really unbelievable. Even if we need boosters every six months, it’s 2 shots a year and things could return to normal. People are really stupid.

And they are pussies.

justhookit, remind this asshole of what they said in the future when we are still going through this shit because we haven't reached herd immunity.

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11 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

And they are pussies.

justhookit, remind this asshole of what they said in the future when we are still going through this shit because we haven't reached herd immunity.

Or retell this anecdote at his funeral and close your speech with the dankest Gritty meme you can find. 

[atomheartbevo 89362]

3 hours ago, BrazilHorn said:

Good news continues for Travis County in terms of deaths. This time last year for example there were 22 related covid deaths. For the week ending Aug 6th for this year there were only 3.

Vaccinations are making a difference here.

The three deaths break down as:

40 to 49 (1)

60 to 69 (1)

70 to 79 (1)

So while hospitalizations and cases are booming they thus far haven't translated into deaths (unlike last year this time)

Again, thank you for continuing to post this stuff.

By chance, is there a good clearinghouse for state stats?  I've got a couple of relatives who keep claiming "conspiracy" because they can't find certain stats, but me thinks it's confirmation bias and that they are finding stats they just don't agree with.

[BrazilHorn 6576]

3 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Again, thank you for continuing to post this stuff.

By chance, is there a good clearinghouse for state stats?  I've got a couple of relatives who keep claiming "conspiracy" because they can't find certain stats, but me thinks it's confirmation bias and that they are finding stats they just don't agree with.

No problem, happy to be part of the Surly-ecosystem. 
Here is state level info with a number of different dashboards etc

challenge is it sounds like you’re trying to have a rational conversation with irrational people. 
https://dshs.texas.gov/coronavirus/AdditionalData.aspx

[Knoxtnhorn 5928]

6 hours ago, MissingInAction said:

 

 

Wait.  That's my district!  I know of one 2nd grader in my school that had it.  I don't think any staff have tested positive... yet.  I'm immunized FWIW.  Two of the four teachers in my grade level are not.