COVID-19 2nd wave - Texas only - Stats and such

[LurkingHorn 1044]

This is a scenario I was wondering about. This would suck. Wonder if that’s why the panhandle is already getting slammed again. 

[utee94 15745]

3 minutes ago, Skipper said:

I assume that's right.  I mean what percentage of US infections by this point are (i) actually reported and (ii) sequenced.  I mean thousands of people are popping positive on home COVID tests then just quarantining and never official stats.  I know or know of a lot of people in that category the past month. 

Yup

[atomheartbevo 89407]

59 minutes ago, LurkingHorn said:

This is a scenario I was wondering about. This would suck. Wonder if that’s why the panhandle is already getting slammed again. 

It would be great if this replaced Delta, but yeah, looking like it might not.

[MonkeyCigarette 143]

Speaking of 2nd wave, I have now gotten Covid-19 twice (fully vaxxed). A guy in the office has had it 3x.

We are just going to have to normalize and live with the idea this isn't going away ever; it will forever mutate and live amongst us as the common cold. 

Gen Z gets it: 

Gen Z Is Done With the Pandemic

Though the specter of a new variant hangs over the holidays, young people have no plans to lock themselves down again.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/12/omicron-pandemic-fatigue-gen-z/620960/

Edited December 14, 2021 by MonkeyCigarette

[Trey3216 15325]

1 hour ago, MonkeyCigarette said:

Speaking of 2nd wave, I have now gotten Covid-19 twice (fully vaxxed). A guy in the office has had it 3x.

We are just going to have to normalize and live with the idea this isn't going away ever; it will forever mutate and live amongst us as the common cold. 

Gen Z gets it: 

Gen Z Is Done With the Pandemic

Though the specter of a new variant hangs over the holidays, young people have no plans to lock themselves down again.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/12/omicron-pandemic-fatigue-gen-z/620960/

Good!  

[ZB'Tejas 593]

Well damn. my wife was just told that she had a coworker test positive for COVID today and this person was at Holiday party last night. I'm guessing it would still be a few days before she could get a test to confirm but should we pull kids from school and sit at home this week? I thought I heard recent CDC rules were not to quarantine but maybe wear a mask since fully vaccinated? What a fucking pain.

Both vaxxed but neither of us have had it yet.

[South Austin 52128]

3 minutes ago, ZB'Tejas said:

Well damn. my wife was just told that she had a coworker test positive for COVID today and this person was at Holiday party last night. I'm guessing it would still be a few days before she could get a test to confirm but should we pull kids from school and sit at home this week? I thought I heard recent CDC rules were not to quarantine but maybe wear a mask since fully vaccinated? What a fucking pain.

Both vaxxed but neither of us have had it yet.

Start quarantining tomorrow, but you and your wife should hit up some bars on Sixth Street tonight.

[YChang 3430]

3 hours ago, MonkeyCigarette said:

Speaking of 2nd wave, I have now gotten Covid-19 twice (fully vaxxed). A guy in the office has had it 3x.

We are just going to have to normalize and live with the idea this isn't going away ever; it will forever mutate and live amongst us as the common cold. 

Gen Z gets it: 

Gen Z Is Done With the Pandemic

Though the specter of a new variant hangs over the holidays, young people have no plans to lock themselves down again.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/12/omicron-pandemic-fatigue-gen-z/620960/

I agree it's time to go back to "normal" and still be responsible about it. Especially with what we've learned and the efficacy of vaccines to help prevent serious visits to the hospital. 

[MonkeyCigarette 143]

55 minutes ago, YChang said:

I agree it's time to go back to "normal" and still be responsible about it. Especially with what we've learned and the efficacy of vaccines to help prevent serious visits to the hospital. 

Yep, and with everyone being vaccinated, the results are way milder than when I had Covid before vaccination was available. I’ve been a little sleepy and that’s all, compared to a full week on my back, without taste and smell, and with a foggy brain, etc.

[Caponata 151]

Dr. Peter McCullough went on Rogan recently, good or bad hard to argue the guys credentials.

 

[YChang 3430]

So outspoken anti-vaccine/CDC doctor on a platform with a host with similar views, but let’s ignore that cause of his credentials, hmm… not so sure about that. 

Edited December 15, 2021 by YChang

[Caponata 151]

12 minutes ago, YChang said:

So outspoken anti-vaccine/CDC doctor on a platform with a host with similar views, but let’s ignore that cause of his credentials, hmm… not so sure about that. 

Is he anti-vaccine? 

[YChang 3430]

7 minutes ago, Caponata said:

Is he anti-vaccine? 

Just a wee bit. 

[Caponata 151]

9 minutes ago, YChang said:

Just a wee bit. 

Idk from what I heard he supports vaccination for adults as well as treatments. Him and his family are vaccinated as well. 

[ChiTownDoc 21098]

There's a flu like illness that's going around with Covid.  I tested negative multiple times but had a pretty shitty flu like illness.  Ears hurting like hell etc.  Trainer and a couple friends tested positive after dinner last Friday.  Wife got symptoms later compared to rest of us and just tested negative today.  I will say the covid cases seem to breaking right through the vaccine on many people but the people we saw that got it really bad were unvaccinated.

Anyways, great times with not just covid but some other nasty shit circulating.  Our holiday party Friday.  Let's see how that ends up. 

[Trey3216 15325]

36 minutes ago, YChang said:

So outspoken anti-vaccine/CDC doctor on a platform with a host with similar views, but let’s ignore that cause of his credentials, hmm… not so sure about that. 

Or a person that’s not anti-vax, but is pro treatment.   He’s a highly credentialed heart doctor.   He supports vaccination, but is pissed off that the government/news/trust the science crowd shot down any treatment efforts early on.    Not saying he’s correct, but he had skins on the wall and is one I’d like to see more evidence of his findings.    

[InkaUtexas 25496]

29 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

There's a flu like illness that's going around with Covid.  I tested negative multiple times but had a pretty shitty flu like illness.  Ears hurting like hell etc.  Trainer and a couple friends tested positive after dinner last Friday.  Wife got symptoms later compared to rest of us and just tested negative today.  I will say the covid cases seem to breaking right through the vaccine on many people but the people we saw that got it really bad were unvaccinated.

Anyways, great times with not just covid but some other nasty shit circulating.  Our holiday party Friday.  Let's see how that ends up. 

In Texas we call that shitty Fall allergies. They have been kicking my ass. Tested negative yesterday (have to go to a funeral with lots of Olds) and wanted to be safe. But damn I live in a cloud lately. 

[BigDHornfan 6535]

I have had a low grade fever since sunday.  just achy as hell.  no other symptoms.   tested negative yesterday after a friend that I hung around with on saturday tested positve on monday.   shit is weird.   I am vaccinated but haven't had the booster yet.

[LurkingHorn 1044]

10 hours ago, Caponata said:

Idk from what I heard he supports vaccination for adults as well as treatments. Him and his family are vaccinated as well. 

Is he? Do you have a link to back that up or did he mention that in the podcast?

[Hate 20103]

9 hours ago, InkaUtexas said:

In Texas we call that shitty Fall allergies. They have been kicking my ass. Tested negative yesterday (have to go to a funeral with lots of Olds) and wanted to be safe. But damn I live in a cloud lately. 

Mine have been kicking my ass off and on for about 10 days now.  I've not tested for Covid since I've not had a fever and my sense of taste and smell are fine.  I just get this relentless congestion, runny nose, and sneezing for a day and then it goes away for a day or two.

[Newdoc 3429]

On 12/13/2021 at 4:30 PM, LurkingHorn said:

This is a scenario I was wondering about. This would suck. Wonder if that’s why the panhandle is already getting slammed again. 

This is why twitter completely sucks as a news medium. You can’t qualify his statement such as Omicron has almost completely over taken Delta in most S Africa provinces. It looks to do the same in England. Dr. G needs to think before he throws out his hypotheticals. That’s the kind of conversation you keep among colleagues until the evidence shows it to be the case.

[Caponata 151]

5 hours ago, LurkingHorn said:

Is he? Do you have a link to back that up or did he mention that in the podcast?

Yeah he said him and his family have had all of the required vaccinations including for Covid. Seems like he wants vaccinations as well as treatments. I don't get the pushback against treatments but whatever.. I got vaccinated and if I were somehow to be hospitalized I would want access to the current available treatments.

[LurkingHorn 1044]

12 minutes ago, Caponata said:

Yeah he said him and his family have had all of the required vaccinations including for Covid. Seems like he wants vaccinations as well as treatments. I don't get the pushback against treatments but whatever.. I got vaccinated and if I were somehow to be hospitalized I would want access to the current available treatments.

Who is pushing back against treatments?

[Dontshootrude 373]

21 minutes ago, Caponata said:

Yeah he said him and his family have had all of the required vaccinations including for Covid. Seems like he wants vaccinations as well as treatments. I don't get the pushback against treatments but whatever.. I got vaccinated and if I were somehow to be hospitalized I would want access to the current available treatments.

Which treatments was he referring to?  I have a big problem with the meme treatments that became political we've seen throughout the pandemic.  Hydroxychloroquine, for example, had little evidence to support it and only became a thing when President Idiot said it worked in a press conference.  Ivermectin quickly turned into a political symbol as well. 

There has been an impressive push to get proven treatments (corticosteroids, monoclonal antibodies) to the people who need them.  Pfizer's rapid development of its COVID specific protease inhibitor is unprecedented as well.

Edited December 15, 2021 by Dontshootrude

[Caponata 151]

5 hours ago, Dontshootrude said:

Which treatments was he referring to?  I have a big problem with the meme treatments that became political we've seen throughout the pandemic.  Hydroxychloroquine, for example, had little evidence to support it and only became a thing when President Idiot said it worked in a press conference.  Ivermectin quickly turned into a political symbol as well. 

There has been an impressive push to get proven treatments (corticosteroids, monoclonal antibodies) to the people who need them.  Pfizer's rapid development of its COVID specific protease inhibitor is unprecedented as well.

Idgaf morons made them into political treatments if a qualified physician thinks they can help I'll listen to them. It's a decision between a physician and their patient. Outside of that it shouldn't matter. Fwiw that doctor mentioned Pfizer's new treatment as well as others.

[Caponata 151]

5 hours ago, LurkingHorn said:

Who is pushing back against treatments?

You're being obtuse now.

Edited December 16, 2021 by Caponata

[Pato del Muerto 52338]

Some doctors are morons too, and some are grifters. 

[LurkingHorn 1044]

22 minutes ago, Caponata said:

You're being obtuse now.

Not really. I don’t think anyone is against treatments at all. At least anyone who doesn’t want to see unnecessary death continue to happen. 

[kevwun 15620]

Oh look, it's another iteration of some asshole who is just asking questions.

[Judge Roybeanbag 11806]

11 hours ago, LurkingHorn said:

Not really. I don’t think anyone is against treatments at all. At least anyone who doesn’t want to see unnecessary death continue to happen. 

This is correct, none of us are against someone getting treated.  We are just saying if you are medically able, get vaccinated.  Then you’re way less likely to need “the treatment”.  

Edited December 16, 2021 by Judge Roybeanbag

[Trey3216 15325]

2 hours ago, Judge Roybeanbag said:

This is correct, none of us are against someone getting treated.  We are just saying if you are medically able, get vaccinated.  Then you’re way less likely to need “the treatment”.  

Because it was shaped by certain folks that vaccine was the only way, and research for early identified treatment was being squashed en lieu of pushing the vaccines through.  Many of those treatments were highly effective, and are now being used more readily and acknowledged by the powers that be.  But after the vaccines were rolled out, of course.  The argument is we could have saved a lot of lives under normal conditions by using treatments while we awaited the vaccines, but instead we introduced a bunch of Draconian measures to 'fight the virus' that ended up doing a big back of dick.  Treatments and vaccines both became political, and folks like this doctor, who treated thousands of COVID patients, were ostracized because "the science".   That's the gist of the entire deal as I interpret it.  

[Homercles 10205]

I don’t want to be treated regardless.  I’ve read enough horror stories and seen enough friends first-hand on what surviving covid is like, that I’m glad masking / distancing / office shutdowns bought me time to avoid getting it all and now I’m vaccinated+boosted such that if I do get it the highest likelihood is it’s a bad cold like Penelope has.  
 

One of my friends still isn’t fully back to normal six months after getting it.  Another fully admits he was a day from getting admitted due to breathing issues, yet still refuses to get the shot.  Nursing forums are full of situations where patients got admitted and can barely navigate stairs months later.  The ‘survival rate’ doesn’t tell the whole story.  

[Judge Roybeanbag 11806]

47 minutes ago, Trey3216 said:

 and research for early identified treatment was being squashed en lieu of pushing the vaccines through.  Many of those treatments were highly effective, and are now being used more readily and acknowledged by the powers that be.  

 

That's just bullshit and you should be ashamed.  Hydroxy and horse paste aren't effective treatments in most cases.  They, at that point, were pacifiers for titty babies who couldn't be told what to do.

Edited December 16, 2021 by Judge Roybeanbag

[LurkingHorn 1044]

6 hours ago, Trey3216 said:

Because it was shaped by certain folks that vaccine was the only way, and research for early identified treatment was being squashed en lieu of pushing the vaccines through.  Many of those treatments were highly effective, and are now being used more readily and acknowledged by the powers that be.  But after the vaccines were rolled out, of course.  The argument is we could have saved a lot of lives under normal conditions by using treatments while we awaited the vaccines, but instead we introduced a bunch of Draconian measures to 'fight the virus' that ended up doing a big back of dick.  Treatments and vaccines both became political, and folks like this doctor, who treated thousands of COVID patients, were ostracized because "the science".   That's the gist of the entire deal as I interpret it.  

Please provide examples of early treatment being squashed. Furthermore, what are these treatments that are all of a sudden being used more readily that were not before? The only place I've heard this stance is from far-right sources and they are usually not backed up by facts. 

The fact is vaccination is still the best, most effective way to squash this even with the great news that treatments like Pfizer's anti-viral pill are on the horizon. I'm not even sure how that's a debate. 

[Immaculate Vibes 114]

 

[StruggleBus 3922]

13 minutes ago, Immaculate Vibes said:

 

[crash_davis 23083]

brother 1 got his booster last wednesday. brother 2 and his family came in town on saturday. brothers 1 and 2's family, my wife and i hung out on saturday and sunday.

brother 1 was complaining about not feeling great but chalked it up to the effects of the booster. we didn't think anything of us because we are vaxxed.

wednesday this week, brother 1 said he tested positive for covid.

9 people hung out this weekend. all were vaccinated. the 6 adults are vaccinated with boosters. 

8 of us got covid. symptoms are flu like, body ache, coughing, sore throat, sinus. oddly enough only 1 carried a fever. no one lost sense of smell.

so whatever it is that's going around doesn't give a damn if you are vaccinated. being vax maybe spared us of worse symptoms, but yea, it sucks getting it.

[Johnny Sack 8397]

I look at Omicron as a positive.  I don't see much of a need for all this testing unless you are symptomatic.  Treat Omicron like a cold and move on.

[Hefeweizen 5307]

18 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

I look at Omicron as a positive.  I don't see much of a need for all this testing unless you are symptomatic.  Treat Omicron like a cold and move on.

I agree, if it can go ahead and kill off the unvaxxed we get back to normal and traffic improves back to mid 90s level.  Plus maybe my grave yard business idea takes off.

[Telegraph_it 3354]

5 minutes ago, Hefeweizen said:

I agree, if it can go ahead and kill off the unvaxxed we get back to normal and traffic improves back to mid 90s level.  Plus maybe my grave yard business idea takes off.

Stupid fucking post is stupid. 

[Foosters 17727]

On 12/16/2021 at 7:03 AM, Trey3216 said:

 Many of those treatments were highly effective, and are now being used more readily and acknowledged by the powers that be.  But after the vaccines were rolled out, of course. 

There were proven, effective treatments to covid prior to the vaccines, that were suppressed? Examples?

[crash_davis 23083]

12 minutes ago, Telegraph_it said:

Stupid fucking post is stupid. 

i have no issues with his post. fuck around and find out. 

[crash_davis 23083]

1 minute ago, Foosters said:

There were proven, effective treatments to covid prior to the vaccines, that were suppressed? Examples?

injecting bleach into your veins. builds super immunity. 

[Caponata 151]

53 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

I look at Omicron as a positive.  I don't see much of a need for all this testing unless you are symptomatic.  Treat Omicron like a cold and move on.

But I don't want this to end because I'm mentally ill.

[Telegraph_it 3354]

26 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

i have no issues with his post. fuck around and find out. 

It is a stupid post because killing off the unvaxxed is not guaranteed to get us back to normal. Dumbasses who don't understand risk management have shown, for now, that they want a new normal. 

[crash_davis 23083]

5 minutes ago, Telegraph_it said:

It is a stupid post because killing off the unvaxxed is not guaranteed to get us back to normal. Dumbasses who don't understand risk management have shown, for now, that they want a new normal. 

the only way this new normal ends for for everyone to get vax or everyone who doesn't get vax dies which means only people remaining are vaxxed. the damn thing is mutating every few months because selfish pricks refuse to get vax allowing the bug to hang around even longer and mutate. the only bad thing about it is that it's killing the unvaxed too slowly. i'm cheering for the bug. it'll take a few vaxxed along the way but will get rid of all the selfish pricks who allowed this shit to hang around.

 

edit: when you are unvaxed and get it, just don't go to the doctor. you thought you were too smart for the medical community, fuck you. wallow in your decision.

Edited December 17, 2021 by crash_davis

[Hefeweizen 5307]

56 minutes ago, Telegraph_it said:

Stupid fucking post is stupid. 

Stupid fucking poster is stupid.  /s (kinda) for you dude.  This thing is going to keep mutating as long as it has this huge reservoir of stupid.

Edited December 17, 2021 by Hefeweizen

[Johnny Sack 8397]

The only way to get back to normal is to get back to normal.  This new variant isn't shit.  It is not a material risk worth worrying about.  Like any respiratory disease is does post heightened risk to the elderly and infirm.

But masks, shutdowns, mandates, social distancing, and vaccines don't seem at all effective in containing spread.  It is time to move on with life and stop worrying about Covid.  Shit isn't the Bubonic Plague.  Get your vax if you're an adult or assume some risk (an infection fatality rate of roughly .10 % if you're in your 30s to 40s, .5% in your fifties, 2% in your 60s, 5% in your 70s, and 8% in your 80s).  Children are at no material risk of death from Covid.

Smart people who are adults will get the shot.  Only a tiny percentage of idiots who assume the risk and do not get the shot will get Covid and die.  

[Johnny Sack 8397]

3 minutes ago, Hefeweizen said:

Stupid fucking poster is stupid.  /s (kinda) for you dude.  This thing is going to keep mutating as long as it has this huge reservoir of stupid.

It's going to mutate regardless.  There is a large percentage of people in the world who won't take it because they cannot get it.  It's not going away.  The vaccine has way too many breakthrough cases of the vaccinated to kill off the virus even if 100% of the world population was vaccinated.  A LOL about getting people to comply with booster shots.

This is not the polio vaccine which basically eradicated it and offered near 100% efficacy against transmission.

[crash_davis 23083]

3 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

The only way to get back to normal is to get back to normal.  This new variant isn't shit.  It is not a material risk worth worrying about.  Like any respiratory disease is does post heightened risk to the elderly and infirm.

But masks, shutdowns, mandates, social distancing, and vaccines don't seem at all effective in containing spread.  It is time to move on with life and stop worrying about Covid.  Shit isn't the Bubonic Plague.  Get your vax if you're an adult or assume some risk (an infection fatality rate of roughly .10 % if you're in your 30s to 40s, .5% in your fifties, 2% in your 60s, 5% in your 70s, and 8% in your 80s).  Children are at no material risk of death from Covid.

Smart people who are adults will get the shot.  Only a tiny percentage of idiots who assume the risk and do not get the shot will get Covid and die.  

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/12/05/1059828993/data-vaccine-misinformation-trump-counties-covid-death-rate

agreed. stupid people are dying from this. oh look.....