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[Bash Riprock 1695]

political baseball talk not going away

[Fletch 5817]

On 8/24/2020 at 3:23 PM, Dr. Beeper said:

1) Our talent level is nowhere near ‘00-‘10. 

2) Pierce sucks. 

3) The world is not ending. 

4) If you can’t ignore the political climate enough to get through the day without your head exploding and thinking the world is ending, I suggest you NOT be a diehard Texas baseball posters. 

I’ll continue to follow Texas baseball. Thanks though. What do you do all day? Stare at a fucking wall? Seen all the homeless people in downtown Austin? How about the thousand or so people a day dying from a pandemic? At least there aren’t protests happening across the country. Weird. Almost like if shit were normal, we would’ve had a college baseball season and you and I could either bitch about DP or he pulls a 2018 and gets an extension 

[Guest Lobo]

I like UT baseball, big fan actually.  What does this have to do with pandemics & protests?  

[Fletch 5817]

Ha my bad dude. Been a hell of a month. Well, really a hell of a year. But fuck it. See ya on the baseball board if we have fall scrimmages. Or you can just hop on the bandwagon after we take 2 of 3 from tech, tcu and okie state. Sweep ou. Kansas state will probably take 2 of 3 cause they’ve been doing that for like 15 years now. God damn I wish we had Elder and Ellis back, but with the arms we’ve recruited, our infield is similar to the 2014 one. Same with our outfield. Let’s see what happens. Do or die David

[Willfully Horn 8270]

The boat parade on Travis? Not a ripple in Current Events?

[Guest Lobo]

3 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

The boat parade on Travis? Not a ripple in Current Events?

Nice play on words.  

[Fletch 5817]

Nice drive by neg spree @Johnny Sack  

Care to stop by the cloakroom and talk about your boy and his cronies? Of course not. You’re a fucking coward. Hope you enjoy the country you and the gop made!!! Fuckwad

[Guest]

I will say i did truly appreciate the politics free Football thread for the Texans-Chiefs game last night.

No bullshit.  Nobody even hinted at the political undertones that were absolutely in the telecast.

 

See.  We can behave when it's important.

[Js1 87224]

Shut the fuck up Rex

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

The board Nazis on DT are doing an excellent job. I posted an article about an actress from Jaws that died from covid and it had a subtle anti-Trump hashtag at the end I didn’t notice.  They rang my shit up with the quickness for that. Let the record show I apologized and removed the post like an adult. 

Edited September 11, 2020 by Hugo Stiglitz

[Guest Lobo]

A Whah?  

[Guest]

complete accident...LOL.

[Cheeseweasel 26442]

34 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

The board Nazis on DT are doing an excellent job. I posted an article about an actress from Jaws that died from covid and it had a subtle anti-Trump hashtag at the end I didn’t notice.  They rang my shit up with the quickness for that. Let the record show I apologized and removed the post like an adult. 

And no one reported you. So stop being a pussy and take the loss.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

Just now, Cheeseweasel said:

And no one reported you.

How do you know this? 

[Cheeseweasel 26442]

Just now, Hugo Stiglitz said:

How do you know this? 

Because you weren't banned. Plus the mods send me secret messages whenever you post.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

5 minutes ago, Cheeseweasel said:

Because you weren't banned.

This logic seems faulty. 

[Cheeseweasel 26442]

4 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

This logic seems faulty. 

Sir, this is a Wendy's.

[Brothahorn 10097]

58 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

The board Nazis on DT are doing an excellent job. I posted an article about an actress from Jaws that died from covid and it had a subtle anti-Trump hashtag at the end I didn’t notice.  They rang my shit up with the quickness for that. Let the record show I apologized and removed the post like an adult. 

 

[Brothahorn 10097]

6 hours ago, slorch said:

I will say i did truly appreciate the politics free Football thread for the Texans-Chiefs game last night.

No bullshit.  Nobody even hinted at the political undertones that were absolutely in the telecast.

 

See.  We can behave when it's important.

Or we know not to tune in until 10 minute after the listed kickoff time. Avoiding all the drama.

Edited September 11, 2020 by Brothahorn

[Guest Lobo]

1 hour ago, Cheeseweasel said:

Sir, this is a Wendy's.

Then I'll have a decaf-capuccino.  

[Cheeseweasel 26442]

18 minutes ago, Lobo said:

Then I'll have a decaf-capuccino.  

[Fletch 5817]

On 9/11/2020 at 1:20 PM, Js1 said:

Shut the fuck up Rex

Seriously. He’s one dumb obnoxious mother fucker

[Armybrat 41429]

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On 9/11/2020 at 7:49 AM, slorch said:

I will say i did truly appreciate the politics free Football thread for the Texans-Chiefs game last night.

No bullshit.  Nobody even hinted at the political undertones that were absolutely in the telecast.

See.  We can behave when it's important.

Just as long as nobody considers it political to discuss how many bags of dicks the Sooners go through in a season, we should be good.  As far as I know, they don't discriminate based on the size or color of the dicks.

[High Plains Drifter 11192]

On 9/15/2020 at 10:35 AM, Armybrat said:

 

Another inch closer and the dog on right gets his tongue bit off.

Seems like there is a lesson, or a parable, or something, there.

[Armybrat 41429]

Maybe maybe.

[bad_teammate 13566]

@Poe It Up @GRHorn @Hate

The perfect place to talk about the various foibles and calumnies of/about the CR is here.

I've gotten too many negs in DT to take seriously DTenizens whining about negs in CR. Negs happen, either you care or you don't (I don't, I get negged constantly in both). You can get crowdsourced on sports boards, too. There is no increased resiliency and toughness in DT, you guys are just as whiny and bitchy as anyone else.

Regarding Fozzz's crowdsource, that works completely against anything you are arguing because he (rightly) hates Democrats/liberals and the entire centrist Democrat establishment. His initial sin was a great joke about that stupid fucking wedding being a potential cause of RGB's death. CR is haunted by center-right decorum Dems (many of whom will stop being Dems the moment their income tax raises 2%) so such unseriousness in the wake of NATIONAL TRAGEDY was unacceptable.

I can see that the level of anti-Cheeto hysteria in CR right now can make it appear to be a den of Communist vipers, but really they're just mad that the social-fascist right has control instead of the corporate-fascist center-right. If it really were a den of Communist vipers they wouldn't be so mad at Republicans. And the social-fascists in DT are too insular and/or stupid to know the difference between a furious pro-corporate/pro-prison Democrat and an actual socialist/Communist because they can't understand anything outside the framework of Democrats/Republicans.

There's a reason my profile pic is Clinton at Stone Mountain. Fuck these parties to death.

[Dbeasy 15612]

This is the Cloak Room

 

Mostly left leaning posters. Some of them very far left. You know who you are. Others are actually pretty well informed and if you don’t have your head up your arse and actually reviewed the facts and sources they sometimes provide, you will find yourself changing your view point on an issue.

 

Of course hardly anyone ever changes their view on anything so it always just turns into poo flinging.

 

The right leaning posters that do wade in there get destroyed with negs and people ganging up on them. However, a lot of these right posters have it coming. Their views are either wildly simplistic or just dumb. It is quickly obvious they are very uniformed. Most of these posters have no self awareness. And that adds to the left cabal sensing vulnerability and they go for the jugular with these posters.

 

The remaining right leaning posters that wade in and out are not bad but most get frustrated by the leftist clan and their lack of self awareness of the fact that a lot of the left progressive policies don’t adequately address personal responsibility for one’s own actions, a crucial tenant of American a Democracy. As a result, more poo flinging ensues.

 

The horrific behavior of Trump and the GOP has made the CR even more violent. Every day rinse and repeat.

[Guest Lobo]

It still bears repeating, because I think it's lost on a lot of the "right-leaning posters" on CR how many of us on there are conservative/libertarian/lifelong GOP'ers/lifelong Anti-Democrats.  

You guys can't fucking man up and listen to some of us question how he's handled Covid-19 or any other issue for that matter.  You're the most butt-hurt snowflakes and you're a fucking embarrassment to my party.  It's convenient that somebody remembers something I posted once about a movie quote or me name-dropping somebody from 3 years ago, but you guys don't seem to fucking remember that I was as anti-Democrat and anti-Obama as anybody else on here/TOS.  Nope, you'd rather act like a bunch of fucking Kunty Karens and piss on about how it's too cloaky here and there.  Nobody had a fucking issue when I was shitting all over Pelosi and the Democrats years ago.  But one of us learns how to fucking read and do maths and realize Trump is a walking abortion of a human being...and you guys can't fucking whine enough.  Why don't y'all quit your bitching and get back to complaining about obscure shit we said 4 years ago at midnight like the walking overly-sensitive cunts you are. 

We are hardcore conservatives who actually make a difference in the real world and so many of you are just moaning and bitching fucking cuntfucks who think your random diatribe fucking matters at all in real life.  Just shut the fuck up and let people post facts in the DT threads and if they don't jive your worldview remember how truly insignificant your opinions are.  All you did was sabotage the party and steer us into the oblivion for a whole generation.  Why do you think your whining matters in the least?  Go back and quote some stupid shit from 3 years ago and make yourselves feel better.  Fucking women bringing up old shit, the lot of you. But Oh wait, you own a gun, so I need to be in fear of you.  Got it...bitch.  

Edited September 26, 2020 by Lobo

[mchookem 16779]

that is a quality rant

[Dbeasy 15612]

Except I have no idea who he’s ranting at. I certainly hate Trump too.

[Guest Lobo]

The "too much factual information in our DT threads" cunts.  I guess I didn't make that clear enough.  The people whom I assumed were man enough to read truthful data points and make reasoned conclusions.  But nope, turned into the most whiny cunt-ridden gathering since Lilith Fair went acoustic.  

[Js1 87224]

2 hours ago, Dbeasy said:

This is the Cloak Room

 

Mostly left leaning posters. Some of them very far left. You know who you are. Others are actually pretty well informed and if you don’t have your head up your arse and actually reviewed the facts and sources they sometimes provide, you will find yourself changing your view point on an issue.

 

Of course hardly anyone ever changes their view on anything so it always just turns into poo flinging.

 

The right leaning posters that do wade in there get destroyed with negs and people ganging up on them. However, a lot of these right posters have it coming. Their views are either wildly simplistic or just dumb. It is quickly obvious they are very uniformed. Most of these posters have no self awareness. And that adds to the left cabal sensing vulnerability and they go for the jugular with these posters.

 

The remaining right leaning posters that wade in and out are not bad but most get frustrated by the leftist clan and their lack of self awareness of the fact that a lot of the left progressive policies don’t adequately address personal responsibility for one’s own actions, a crucial tenant of American a Democracy. As a result, more poo flinging ensues.

 

The horrific behavior of Trump and the GOP has made the CR even more violent. Every day rinse and repeat.

This was retarded the first time you posted it. 

[Guest]

3 hours ago, Lobo said:

 

We are hardcore conservatives 

No you aren't.  Either that or your posts do not reflect your beliefs.

[Dbeasy 15612]

This was retarded the first time you posted it. 

Example A ladies and gentlemen. Acting true to his CR form with a complete lack of self awareness. Bravo.

[Guest Lobo]

3 hours ago, slorch said:

No you aren't.  Either that or your posts do not reflect your beliefs.

Oh, this website isn't real life?  Thanks for letting me know.  You want to meet up to help choose the next Governor of the State of Texas in a few months, you let me know you fucking zero.  I don't give a flying fuck you don't understand my politics, this all a ruse anyway.  But rest assure, you are not remotely involved with how we pick the next GOP leaders of Texas.  You're just fucking not.  PM and we'll get you involved though sweetheart.   You seem nice, but know your fucking place man, you're a never was on a never-needed website.  Your opinion and engagement, and likely your very existence, don't mean jack fucking shit when it comes to politics.  You seem like a swell guy in your community and with regard to your family.  But let the adults talk GOP politics, you don't fucking need to talk or exist when it comes to that shit you fucking zero. 

Edited September 27, 2020 by Lobo

[Js1 87224]

4 hours ago, Dbeasy said:

Example A ladies and gentlemen. Acting true to his CR form with a complete lack of self awareness. Bravo.

Eat my dick. You think you’re so above it all. 

 

Edited September 27, 2020 by Js1

[Dbeasy 15612]

2 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Eat my dick

ha you negged. You are proving to this entire board what a little bitch you are. Pussy

[DDD Dad 14661]

ha you negged. You are proving to this entire board what a little bitch you are. Pussy

Neg rep. Serious business.

[elfenix 34760]

6 hours ago, Dbeasy said:

Example A ladies and gentlemen. Acting true to his CR form with a complete lack of self awareness. Bravo.

*notes that js1 doesn't post in the politics board*

[Hate 20250]

21 hours ago, Dbeasy said:

This is the Cloak Room

 

Mostly left leaning posters. Some of them very far left. You know who you are. Others are actually pretty well informed and if you don’t have your head up your arse and actually reviewed the facts and sources they sometimes provide, you will find yourself changing your view point on an issue.

 

 

I would like to agree with you, but on a drive by reading someone referred to Biden as a "good man". 

[GRHorn 105]

15 hours ago, Lobo said:

Oh, this website isn't real life?  Thanks for letting me know.  You want to meet up to help choose the next Governor of the State of Texas in a few months, you let me know you fucking zero.  I don't give a flying fuck you don't understand my politics, this all a ruse anyway.  But rest assure, you are not remotely involved with how we pick the next GOP leaders of Texas.  You're just fucking not.  PM and we'll get you involved though sweetheart.   You seem nice, but know your fucking place man, you're a never was on a never-needed website.  Your opinion and engagement, and likely your very existence, don't mean jack fucking shit when it comes to politics.  You seem like a swell guy in your community and with regard to your family.  But let the adults talk GOP politics, you don't fucking need to talk or exist when it comes to that shit you fucking zero. 

Are you ok?

[Guest]

15 hours ago, Lobo said:

Oh, this website isn't real life?  Thanks for letting me know.  You want to meet up to help choose the next Governor of the State of Texas in a few months, you let me know you fucking zero.  I don't give a flying fuck you don't understand my politics, this all a ruse anyway.  But rest assure, you are not remotely involved with how we pick the next GOP leaders of Texas.  You're just fucking not.  PM and we'll get you involved though sweetheart.   You seem nice, but know your fucking place man, you're a never was on a never-needed website.  Your opinion and engagement, and likely your very existence, don't mean jack fucking shit when it comes to politics.  You seem like a swell guy in your community and with regard to your family.  But let the adults talk GOP politics, you don't fucking need to talk or exist when it comes to that shit you fucking zero. 

 

LOLz.   Can't wait to see your next move.  The last one has managed to piss off both sides, somethin fierce.  Well done.

Edited September 27, 2020 by slorch

[Guest Lobo]

I am a nobody.  I didn't even make Assistant Manager at my bank.  

But seriously, the rant went off the rails but my point was that 4 years in, you still don't fucking get it.  You think you have all this "stored ammo" about who's not a real conservative on a make-believe website where most posts are full of shit...and you don't see the real life example right in front of you.  Trump is not a fucking conservative, he's not even close.  He literally shares less than 20% of your value set.  That's my point, which I admit I made poorly and sorry for the namecalling.  You take a few posts of somebody you don't even know in real life and declare them "CR cabal/Non-Conservative/Never-Trumper" and ignore their real body of work.  And then you switch back to real life (and you seem like a solid guy in real life, though I truthfully have no idea, but I'd like to think so)........and you see a guy's actual body of work which is NOT conservative and then you choose to cling to a few soundbytes (whatever real life version of a 'post' would be) where he sorta, kinda seems to be this other thing, altogether different.  And you grab hold of that and let it define your impression of Trump.  In real life, he exhibits almost nothing to which you would identify as conservative.  But you project that on to him despite you knowing better. 

Likewise, I posted for years about conservatism, libertarianism, constitutionalism, federalism, and bashed the fuck out of Obama and Hillary Clinton...nevermind what I do in real life to work against them and their ideology...but I bring up a few fact-based concerns about the lunatic, NON-CONSERVATIVE Trump...and I get lumped in with the CR Cabal.  Which is fine, and sorry for my reactionary rants (drank a lot during that Tech game).....but at least acknowledge the broader point here.  You call out somebody, like so many other CR-haters, for NOT being a conservative based on some make-believe postings, but the guy you idolize is in real life, in real time, being a piece of non-conservative human shit...but he gets a pass because it's real life?  You realize that's the opposite of how we should treat politics.  Muck it up here with drunken ramblings, and in real life---judge people for their actual principles, words, and actions.  But nope, it's turned on its head for so many Trumpers.  Attack in real life and then act like measured, principled ideologues on a football drinking board.  You have to admit that's a little backwards (not pointing this all at you, but rather a large number of other posters---I've said it before in other posts that you're repped that you're at least open to dialogue, exchanges, and questions instead of just completely putting up walls).  And finally, who the hell knows?  You might actually be a Bernie block-walker in real life.  To be completely honest, most of my ballot is gonna read "L" or "R" come November, but I sure as shit intend to vote for Diamond Joe & Blaze.  

One thing for sure, bullshit and rantings aside, we are all gonna have to come back to yet another place on this site come early 2021.  It's all gonna be turned back on its head.  We're gonna have another pivot, another set of rules, another forum probably even.  Because there are a lot of posters on here who are not Biden fans nor Democrats, they just want Trump dead and gone.  And we're are gonna want to get back to what is right and fun...and that's shitting on the Schumers and Bernie's of the world.  So to the point of this thread (I know, I know...too late Lobo)...is gonna have to shift again.  It's gonna go back to what it was for most of its existence (between Surly and TOS)...which is a rightful forum for critiquing and bashing the insane Left.  Won't just be DT and CR, we'll need like a place for Biden voters who hate Biden (Jews for Jesus kinda thing), a place for the actual CR-progressive Cabal (but where social liberals like me can still feel safe), a place for people still clamoring for Trump's sexy manliness, then an actual straight-up non-Trumper DT forum where we can still talk about how we want 2021 to clean up 2020 and exit the pandemic, and then some kinda wild-card forum as well for everything else we can't see coming next year because we're all knee-deep in the shit right now.  /rant 

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On 9/26/2020 at 12:01 PM, Dbeasy said:

Of course hardly anyone ever changes their view on anything so it always just turns into poo flinging.

A shitload of us have actually changed our views over the years.  I'm not going to bust out the photos of me with W and other Republicans I campaigned for, nor my old College Republican credentials, nor my NRA membership from the 90s, but I know I'm not the only one who was a long-time R and switched to independent, just as I know plenty of Ds that drifted center or right.   I like to pretend the NRA used to not be political, but when I was a member, in hindsight I know that it was.  Maybe in armybrat's day it wasn't political and more focused on teaching kids to shoot and promoting gun safety.

This site is full of people who have changed their views over the years - most of us are, after all, college-educated in some capacity, and it was not some kind of Liberty University bullshit.

Part of the problem is that 20 years ago, we didn't have cults of personality reinforced by echo chambers on the internet.  Along about 2003 when I got pissed off at Bush over Iraq, and the GOP as a whole, none of my Republican friends/relatives/co-workers as a whole really went apeshit on me for ditching the GOP.  There was grumbling, and admittedly, we didn't have Facebook/twitter/etc. or an equivalent that was as pervasive here in 2020 as it is, but it was different.

Shit, I know current-day Trump/GOP supporters who, back in 2004, voted for Kerry, because they disagreed strongly with Iraq, and felt the Neocons were running rampant.  But now?   If I go on Facebook and make a generic criticism of how covid is being handled or that we should still pay attention to the numbers, should still wear masks, etc. , I will get those same people who will lose their fucking minds.  They take it as a personal criticism of Trump, and more importantly, a personal criticism of themselves, because they chose to support Trump, and therefore I'm judging their lives or some shit.  And some of these people, if they caught covid, it's like "better get on FaceTime and say goodbye to them, because they are going to die."   

And the same can be said of friends/relatives on the left.  I can criticize how the Dems handle a situation, and some will lose their minds, although not as many and not nearly as crazy as those supporting Trump, but it's very different from say 20 years ago, or even 10.

Not all are like that, most aren't, but the ones who personally identify with this shit drown out everybody else.  

[atomheartbevo 90665]

We can have good conversations on DT, but we do have some posters who are just looking for some kind of criticism of whatever leader or party on the right or left that they personally support and identify with, and that criticism doesn't even have to mention that leader by name or party, but they find it, because they are looking for it, and they can't stand it.

I am thankful that Surly does not tolerate those Qanon idiots who think the other side is a bunch of devil-worshipping pedophiles looking for secret basements under single-story pizza parlors.  Having an in-law and her boyfriend into that batshittery has been eye-opening.  It makes the UFO and JFK conspiracy theorists looking quaint and old-fashioned.  

When you poke your head into the Qanon thread at TexAgs, you can clearly see why they are going to make a successful transition to the University of Phoenix model.

[immamac 44391]

We have a lot of smart people here. It would be interesting to get a policy drafted that everyone (meaning 75%+) could agree on to see what it would look like. 

I actually think that everyone is a lot closer in their core beliefs than they know or let on, they just can't help but look at the world through their teams colored glasses. 

[troph 25242]

The history of our political boards changed my views... and then some.

[Js1 87224]

19 hours ago, Dbeasy said:

ha you negged. You are proving to this entire board what a little bitch you are. Pussy

Wahhhhhhhhh

[atomheartbevo 90665]

9 hours ago, Lobo said:

One thing for sure, bullshit and rantings aside, we are all gonna have to come back to yet another place on this site come early 2021.  It's all gonna be turned back on its head. 

Just as long as no Surly posters do what Trump's former campaign manager did tonight, and barricade himself in his house and threaten to kill himself (narrator: He didn't, the police managed to apprehend him and put him in a hospital).

I've got a few relatives and former friends/co-workers that I'm a little concerned about.  I can only imagine what the internet will be like, and I'm sure Surly will be flooded with astroturfers/gaslighters/all manners of trolls.

I'm going to avoid Facebook, twitter, etc. for a few days/weeks/months.  It'll be really fucking ugly everywhere.

Edited September 28, 2020 by atomheartbevo