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  On 7/10/2020 at 4:00 PM, ChiTownDoc said:

Sister in Law lives in Geneva.  Switzerland is pretty badass.  Starts to feel small but quick flight to some other amazing places.  

Oh and it’s expensive af.  

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Lovely place, but (and no offense to your SIL) unfortunately it's full of Swiss people. 

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I am an "old," (Graduated UT in 1981), so I and the SO are seriously looking at the island of Roatan in 3 years.

Can get dual citizenship pretty easily.

Get a pretty nice shack right on the beach.

Cost of living not bad.

What's not to like?

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  On 7/11/2020 at 9:42 PM, Lidig8r said:
I am an "old," (Graduated UT in 1981), so I and the SO are seriously looking at the island of Roatan in 3 years.
Can get dual citizenship pretty easily.
Get a pretty nice shack right on the beach.
Cost of living not bad.
What's not to like?
Living on an island would drive me batty.
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  On 7/11/2020 at 10:07 PM, Chewbacca said:
  On 7/11/2020 at 9:42 PM, Lidig8r said:
I am an "old," (Graduated UT in 1981), so I and the SO are seriously looking at the island of Roatan in 3 years.
Can get dual citizenship pretty easily.
Get a pretty nice shack right on the beach.
Cost of living not bad.
What's not to like?
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Living on an island would drive me batty.

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I'm a very young 62 years old. Have appeared in federal courts throughout the US. Fought many battles in the mental health field. Had a daughter who died. Lived in Dallas most of my life. Don't need so much of what I thought was important.

Snorkeling. Occasionally tending bar in an ex-pat bar. Writing. Fishing. Running on the beach.

My idea of heaven on earth

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  On 7/12/2020 at 5:21 AM, Lidig8r said:

I'm a very young 62 years old. Have appeared in federal courts throughout the US. Fought many battles in the mental health field. Had a daughter who died. Lived in Dallas most of my life. Don't need so much of what I thought was important.

Snorkeling. Occasionally tending bar in an ex-pat bar. Writing. Fishing. Running on the beach.

My idea of heaven on earth

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I loved Roatan.  Lots of services, markets, etc. and beautiful.

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Interesting thread. 

I have to be honest, I've been back in the US now for almost 6 years and I really think I'm getting close to pushing off. I love so much about America.....the food, sports, the weather, the comforts, the National Parks, the street rod scene, the great cities, little luxuries like having a DRYER, seeing my parents every day, etc. etc.

The big problem I have with America is simply the people. I'm actually getting to the point where I'm just getting burned out on Americans. The entitlement, the constant unsolicited opinions, the victimhood, the complete lack of self-awareness. I could go on and on. There are lots of good people in the States....but the selfishness here drives me bananas. 

People here are so about themselves. It's the Land Of The Me. You can't tell anybody here what to do regardless if it's for the common good.  I spent 18 years mostly in Asia with people that realize a simple thing like wearing a mask is the best thing for the common good of the society. It's 'we', not 'me'. These fuggin American assholes are more worried about ridiculous conspiracy theories and 'liberal media' outlets. GTFO. If you don't want to wear a motorcycle helmet or a seatbelt, cool. I honestly don't care at all if you die in a motorcycle wreck. Free country. But when you refuse to take measures to protect others? That's where I have a problem. You just knew the Americans were going to completely screw up this Covid deal. 

Did you ever have that friend in your 20's that was just constant drama and at a certain point you just had to cut that person out of your life? Man, that's where I'm at with this country. I've never lived anywhere with this amount of constant drama. It's honestly no wonder so many people here suffer from depression and anxiety. The culture is completely nuts. 

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  On 7/11/2020 at 9:42 PM, Lidig8r said:

I am an "old," (Graduated UT in 1981), so I and the SO are seriously looking at the island of Roatan in 3 years.

Can get dual citizenship pretty easily.

Get a pretty nice shack right on the beach.

Cost of living not bad.

What's not to like?

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  On 7/12/2020 at 8:15 AM, Sweetnsourpoke said:
Interesting thread. 
I have to be honest, I've been back in the US now for almost 6 years and I really think I'm getting close to pushing off. I love so much about America.....the food, sports, the weather, the comforts, the National Parks, the street rod scene, the great cities, little luxuries like having a DRYER, seeing my parents every day, etc. etc.
The big problem I have with America is simply the people. I'm actually getting to the point where I'm just getting burned out on Americans. The entitlement, the constant unsolicited opinions, the victimhood, the complete lack of self-awareness. I could go on and on. There are lots of good people in the States....but the selfishness here drives me bananas. 
People here are so about themselves. It's the Land Of The Me. You can't tell anybody here what to do regardless if it's for the common good.  I spent 18 years mostly in Asia with people that realize a simple thing like wearing a mask is the best thing for the common good of the society. It's 'we', not 'me'. These fuggin American assholes are more worried about ridiculous conspiracy theories and 'liberal media' outlets. GTFO. If you don't want to wear a motorcycle helmet or a seatbelt, cool. I honestly don't care at all if you die in a motorcycle wreck. Free country. But when you refuse to take measures to protect others? That's where I have a problem. You just knew the Americans were going to completely screw up this Covid deal. 
Did you ever have that friend in your 20's that was just constant drama and at a certain point you just had to cut that person out of your life? Man, that's where I'm at with this country. I've never lived anywhere with this amount of constant drama. It's honestly no wonder so many people here suffer from depression and anxiety. The culture is completely nuts. 
I agree with a lot of your post. Where did you live beforehand?

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  On 7/8/2020 at 2:58 PM, Telegraph_it said:

Well duh. Their numbers say so. 

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North Korea has the best numbers anywhere, with China and Russia doing very well too on a per capita basis.

If you go the North Korean route then you won’t be forced to eat birds every Tuesday, so you would have that going for you.

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  On 7/12/2020 at 2:11 PM, BurntEyes said:

It's interesting reading all these reactions to living in the US. I disagree with some and agree with others. 

tl/dr: Be better, be kinder, find what makes you happy, do it, don't drink alcohol (for me).

For my end three major things I've done in my own life have made my life immeasurably better. Despite my near death experience and losing my best friend who also happened to be my sister,  in addition my father being diagnosed with Alzheimer's and for a time being sort of homeless in the past 6 years. So, I've been through some shit. 

First, a book I read a long time ago, Seven Habit of Highly Successful People had a chapter dedicated to Sphere of Influence. Now, I'm not talking all of the book, buy this area talked about analysis on items that were in your life (or work place) to determine what you can and can not change. If you can change it, how, make a plan, and do so -execute it NOW. If you can't change it, except it, whether you dislike it or not and move on in life.  It created a few items of focus.

Politics- Our system is broken. My contributions to the lobby groups that support my specific interests are more powerful than the representative I might vote for in an election at the Federal level. I can stand either party, hated both presidental candidates last time, but really, there wasn't shit I could do about it, so I make a continuous choice to let it go, not give a shit. 

People - There are lots of dumb people who do lots of dumb things. I'm aware of it, look to see if I can influence a lobby group with money to support that change. If not, nothing to be done, I laugh and move on. Sure, I'll bitch some here or whereever, but largely I really don't give a fuck. 

Next I moved out of he city. I spent my adult life in Austin and Chicago and my youth in the hood of Dallas. I've see the limited good and tons of stupid in politics on both sides of that coin. I got engaged where I could to help, with a program that helped at youth in at risk neighborhood understand the path to a future in technology and mentored them in that effort. I volunteered for no kill animal shelters doing behavior training and when not doing that cleaned up cages because no other volunteers want to do that task.

So I gave an effort and still work in shelters and contribute financially to those efforts. 

While I travel to cities often for work, I end up back at home in my cabin in the woods. I work on my land, ride my motorcycles, meet with new friends, make new ones and keep in touch with old ones. I complete in shooting competitions, work out, ride my bicycle, travel to great places, eat great food and sometimes just breathe, appreciate what I have, and find happiness in all I have.

Finally, I focus on my beliefs. I won't go deep into those but I also use time to meditate on my beliefs. In short they lead me to "Try and be kinder, be just a little better every day, listen to the universe, be grateful and take time to stop and smell the roses.".

I'm writing all this not to say I'm better than anyone. I'm not. Maybe a tad smarter than some and dumber than others here. I'm writing it all in a very sincere hope that those reading it will find something that helps them in some way. This is an attempt to help others, and be better. Perhaps it's a waste of time or I will be mocked. I'm okay with both as it took nothing away from me to try. That's the point isn't it? Try to be better? I'm trying and that's all I can do.

Edit- I would be remiss if I didn't add not drinking alcohol to my personal list of things to do. I have to. This is no judgement on others only an admission that it doesn't work for me.

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You can be my friend any day and twice on Sundays.

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  On 7/12/2020 at 2:11 PM, BurntEyes said:

 

tl/dr: Be better, be kinder

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Ha. Stones and glass houses and all that. 
 

As for OP, is there really any doubt that he’s not moving out of the country? I don’t know anything about him, but that’s a kind of move that very, very few people are bold enough to actually pull off. More power to him if he does but it seems unlikely. 

 

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  On 7/11/2020 at 9:42 PM, Lidig8r said:

I am an "old," (Graduated UT in 1981), so I and the SO are seriously looking at the island of Roatan in 3 years.

Can get dual citizenship pretty easily.

Get a pretty nice shack right on the beach.

Cost of living not bad.

What's not to like?

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Looks like a half hour to Sweetwater for Walmart and an hour to Abilene's HEB.

And the Yello Whammers is about the coolest 6-man football names ever.

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  On 7/11/2020 at 9:42 PM, Lidig8r said:

I am an "old," (Graduated UT in 1981), so I and the SO are seriously looking at the island of Roatan in 3 years.

Can get dual citizenship pretty easily.

Get a pretty nice shack right on the beach.

Cost of living not bad.

What's not to like?

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I spent 2+ weeks in Roatan ~20 years ago for an extended dive trip. We did 30+ dives and never went to the same spot twice. It was gorgeous. No idea what it is like these days, but back then I can certainly understand wanting to live there for a while. 

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  On 7/12/2020 at 5:47 PM, KaiserSoze said:
 
I spent 2+ weeks in Roatan ~20 years ago for an extended dive trip. We did 30+ dives and never went to the same spot twice. It was gorgeous. No idea what it is like these days, but back then I can certainly understand wanting to live there for a while. 

My childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When I was insolent I was placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds- pretty standard really. At the age of twelve I received my first scribe. At the age of fourteen a Zoroastrian named Vilma ritualistically shaved my testicles. There really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it's breathtaking- I highly suggest you try it.
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Where'd u finally land, bro?  

More options, some may be better than others (Turkey?):

https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurabegleybloom/2020/07/28/escape-america-countries-buy-citizenship-second-passport/#539f56557f74

Want To Escape From America? 12 Countries Where You Can Buy Citizenship (And A Second Passport)

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  On 8/8/2020 at 10:50 PM, Ghost of LL said:
So we are currently looking at Turkey or Ireland. I like Turkey, but Ireland would be a lot easier.


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Turkey’s always on the brink of going full right wing Islamic state. No thanks.

Ireland has ginger pussy with a drinking problem. That is worth investigating.

Some friends are moving to Portugal in a month. His parents are from there so it’s an easy move. Plus he retired at 38 a couple of years ago so there’s no need to get a job.
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  On 8/8/2020 at 10:50 PM, Ghost of LL said:

So we are currently looking at Turkey or Ireland. I like Turkey, but Ireland would be a lot easier.


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Ireland, and it's not even close. I'd relocate there in a heart beat.  Friendly people, beautiful, clean country, courteous drivers.  The pubs are the best I've ever set foot in.  The only issue is getting good bourbon without emptying a bank account.

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  On 8/8/2020 at 11:23 PM, Onboard 2.0 said:

Ireland, and it's not even close. I'd relocate there in a heart beat.  Friendly people, beautiful, clean country, courteous drivers.  The pubs are the best I've ever set foot in.  The only issue is getting good bourbon without emptying a bank account.

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If it wasn't so cold and rainy all the time, my wife and I probably wouldn't have come back from our honeymoon. We've had serious talks about doing it, we have jobs that would allow us to do it seamlessly. We just can't ever get past thinking that we'd get sick of rain and weather that ranges from freezing ass cold to 70 degrees for about a month in the summer. We like the outdoors and swimming/sunshine too much.

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  On 8/8/2020 at 11:23 PM, Onboard 2.0 said:

Ireland, and it's not even close. I'd relocate there in a heart beat.  Friendly people, beautiful, clean country, courteous drivers.  The pubs are the best I've ever set foot in.  The only issue is getting good bourbon without emptying a bank account.

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  On 7/11/2020 at 9:42 PM, Lidig8r said:

I am an "old," (Graduated UT in 1981), so I and the SO are seriously looking at the island of Roatan in 3 years.

Can get dual citizenship pretty easily.

Get a pretty nice shack right on the beach.

Cost of living not bad.

What's not to like?

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I hated hurricanes while living in Houston metro.  There's no fucking way it's better on a fucking island in the Caribbean.

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  On 8/8/2020 at 11:52 PM, BradInATX said:

If it wasn't so cold and rainy all the time, my wife and I probably wouldn't have come back from our honeymoon. We've had serious talks about doing it, we have jobs that would allow us to do it seamlessly. We just can't ever get past thinking that we'd get sick of rain and weather that ranges from freezing ass cold to 70 degrees for about a month in the summer. We like the outdoors and swimming/sunshine too much.

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When were you there ?  We hit it for 9 days in mid September 2016, and did the southern lap from Dublin down thru Cork, and then up to Galway/ Shannon.

You get sun rain, wind, hot, and cold all in about the span of 20 minutes. The only place I saw weather change that fast was Jackson Hole in April.  Something about being in the middle of the Atlantic at those latitudes, and the light creates a green like no other green I've ever seen, it's electric.

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  On 8/8/2020 at 11:52 PM, BradInATX said:

If it wasn't so cold and rainy all the time, my wife and I probably wouldn't have come back from our honeymoon. We've had serious talks about doing it, we have jobs that would allow us to do it seamlessly. We just can't ever get past thinking that we'd get sick of rain and weather that ranges from freezing ass cold to 70 degrees for about a month in the summer. We like the outdoors and swimming/sunshine too much.

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Are you me, but older? I have a hard time here in the PNW.

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  On 8/9/2020 at 12:15 AM, Onboard 2.0 said:

When were you there ?  We hit it for 9 days in mid September 2016, and did the southern lap from Dublin down thru Cork, and then up to Galway/ Shannon.

You get sun rain, wind, hot, and cold all in about the span of 20 minutes. The only place I saw weather change that fast was Jackson Hole in April.  Something about being in the middle of the Atlantic at those latitudes, and the light creates a green like no other green I've ever seen, it's electric.

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May 2015.

Same thing. I played Old Head one morning and was warm (felt like 70ish) and sunny, perfect golf weather. Played Ballybunion the next day and it was 40 and poured rain. The back 9 was, and I'm not even exaggerating, like the scene from Caddyshack. We experienced the same thing weather-wise. And the colors. It's almost spiritual. Maybe it is. That place is special.

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  On 8/8/2020 at 11:15 PM, CooterBrown said:

Turkey’s always on the brink of going full right wing Islamic state. No thanks.

 

Particularly these days. Sucks, because it's a gorgeous country with an embarrassment of cultural/historical riches, great food, and good weather. Without the Erdogan (sp?) Government it'd be a great choice. @Ghost of LL have you considered Greece instead? Similar, but not essentially a dictatorship.

 

Ireland is solid, though for longer term I'd want somewhere with better food and weather.

 

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  On 8/9/2020 at 12:18 AM, BradInATX said:

May 2015.

Same thing. I played Old Head one morning and was warm (felt like 70ish) and sunny, perfect golf weather. Played Ballybunion the next day and it was 40 and poured rain. The back 9 was, and I'm not even exaggerating, like the scene from Caddyshack. We experienced the same thing weather-wise. And the colors. It's almost spiritual. Maybe it is. That place is special.

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The Ring of Kerry was especially beautufl. We did the tour, and didn't realize our hotel (an old manor houses') house back yard was the edge of the ring of Kerry.  Cigars, and whiskey were really nice those nights on the lawn.

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  On 8/9/2020 at 12:22 AM, gmr548 said:
 
 
 

 
Particularly these days. Sucks, because it's a gorgeous country with an embarrassment of cultural/historical riches, great food, and good weather. Without the Erdogan (sp?) Government it'd be a great choice. @Ghost of LL have you considered Greece instead? Similar, but not essentially a dictatorship.
 
Ireland is solid, though for longer term I'd want somewhere with better food and weather.
 

So I’m looking for 3 months, which is short enough that I don’t really care about the government, but I definitely care about the food and weather.

The time zone, however, makes Ireland attractive as I am going to continue to do work remotely and the kids will be in remote school.


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  On 7/12/2020 at 6:05 AM, Sbbruin said:

I loved Roatan.  Lots of services, markets, etc. and beautiful.

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Roatan is easily one of the most beautiful beaches I have ever been to. Was there with Ivan in 2005. lol. 

Must be a fuckton more expensive now then back then. Would live there in a heartbeat if not for the obvious drug cartels, gangs and shit. I did some of Honduras and man its rough. The capital is rough AF, and San Pedro Sula is really rough. Spent the night in Tela and was one of the craziest places I have been to. Met some dudes from Manugua who refused to get off the bus in Tegucigalpa lol. 

Anyway, I am sure its better now than it was 15 years ago 

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  On 8/9/2020 at 2:01 AM, BurntEyes said:
I would put Hungarian food as a very, very close second to Turkish food for being vastly underrated.
German Schnitzel specifically is also vastly underrated. 
Isn't most schnitzel Austrian?
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  On 8/9/2020 at 2:55 AM, Chewbacca said:
  On 8/9/2020 at 2:01 AM, BurntEyes said:
I would put Hungarian food as a very, very close second to Turkish food for being vastly underrated.
German Schnitzel specifically is also vastly underrated. 
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Isn't most schnitzel Austrian?

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Schnitzel is generic cutlet.  Wiener Schnitzel is specifically Viennese using veal.  But both idea are stolen from the italian Milanese which predates them

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  On 8/9/2020 at 4:28 AM, CDAK said:

Thread title stated "relocate." Then, mentioned a year in the first post. Down to three months now.

Have a great long weekend at Great Wolf Lodge.

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That’s pretty funny. Yeah- I was thinking 3 months doesn’t really count. Wondering if it was visa related. 

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  On 7/9/2020 at 3:59 PM, Rougarou said:
There is a pierogi place in the Jewish district that is the best restaurant on earth I've ever eaten. That alone would make me think hard on a relo.

Yep. I ate there too.

 

 

 

 

 

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  On 8/9/2020 at 3:12 AM, ztejas said:
Did Afghanistan not check the right boxes?

Bodrum Turkey seems badass. I was only there for a day but it’s got a nice vibe and is a similar climate to here.

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