Brothahorn's Conservative Thread

[workswithseed 2110]

1 hour ago, wildcat09 said:

When are you guys going to stop falling for deceptively-edited videos?

If you got proof, then I'll believe your statement.

[Guest Lobo]

20 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Do your think your tax dollars should subsidize the production of Dasani and Evian? 

In a Sad Naive?  That pretty much describes most Trumpers on Covid19, so yeah...

[StassneyHorn 6635]

16 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

If you got proof, then I'll believe your statement.

They’ve been caught selectively editing videos quite a bit. While the Center for Medical Progress sounds like some official Med organization, it is an anti-choice interest group. Check out their wiki for a quick rundown or you can check the House Oversight page below
 

https://oversight.house.gov/planned-parenthood-fact-v-fiction

[Poolflood 845]

6 hours ago, wildcat09 said:

Just making shit up doesn’t make it true.

 

5 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

And You believe this because?

I perused their annual report and can do math. 

[GRHorn 105]

37 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Do your think your tax dollars should subsidize the production of Dasani and Evian? 

Apples and oranges. Most charters are not for profit. 

[workswithseed 2110]

Here's the video.

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

Apples and oranges. Most charters are not for profit. 

Lolz.  So are colleges.

[workswithseed 2110]

3 minutes ago, slorch said:

Lolz.  So are colleges.

It's nice having you back, and @Wulaw Horn. 

[StassneyHorn 6635]

19 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

Here's the video.

What do you think about it?

[Bozo_Casanova 26540]

21 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

Apples and oranges. Most charters are not for profit. 

Great. Should PUF funds be diverted from the University of Texas to Rice, Vanderbilt and Harvard?

[Guest]

13 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Great. Should PUF funds be diverted from the University of Texas to Rice, Vanderbilt and Harvard?

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

26 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

What do you think about it?

Sounds like she's twisting answers, and is evasive.

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13587]

2 hours ago, GRHorn said:

 

A little competition for a monopoly is usually good. Shouldn’t be afraid of it. 
 

The public option stripped during the Obamacare deliberations say hi. It's embarrassing watching conservatives still cling to this image of belief in the omnipotence of competition with their pants around their ankles.

 

[Nivek 16984]

Non profits charters? Idi amin laugh

[StassneyHorn 6635]

6 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

Sounds like she's twisting answers, and is evasive.

She's being asked medical questions and doesn't have that expertise. It's a seven minute video of questions she can't answer or wasn't in the OR when it happened. It's worthless IMO

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13587]

2 hours ago, Anastasis said:

If the Fire Department was acting anywhere near as reckless as TEA in the current pandemic, you would be right to advocate recapturing their funding as well. 

How is the the TEA being "reckless"? in some sort of analogy of your residence getting burned down but with the comfort of some guy advising "you really gotta case here".

Edited July 14, 2020 by Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand

[Message Board User 12396]

2 hours ago, GRHorn said:

 

A little competition for a monopoly is usually good. Shouldn’t be afraid of it. 
 

A-fucking-men.

If the public schools were decent, there'd be no need for charters. 

I gave the public school 3 years with my oldest and he didn't learn shit and my complaints to the principal about the lack of rigor and expectations went in one ear and out the other.  He did charter this past year and loved it and thrived...because the teachers actually taught instead of show videos or let them play Minecraft.

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13587]

 You down with Oh! Dp

Edited July 14, 2020 by Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

15 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

She's being asked medical questions and doesn't have that expertise. It's a seven minute video of questions she can't answer or wasn't in the OR when it happened. It's worthless IMO

I heard a question asked about a beating heart and her answer indicated she was in the treatment room.  Did I not hear her correctly.  Why would someone not in the treatment room be asked those kinds of questions ?

[hobbes2702 13065]

11 minutes ago, Message Board User said:

A-fucking-men.

If the public schools were decent, there'd be no need for charters. 

I gave the public school 3 years with my oldest and he didn't learn shit and my complaints to the principal about the lack of rigor and expectations went in one ear and out the other.  He did charter this past year and loved it and thrived...because the teachers actually taught instead of show videos or let them play Minecraft.

[HRSchenker 2273]

I will never understand the opposition to charter schools. No sense in keeping kids in failing schools. More funding has never translated to better outcomes so why is throwing more money at a school thought to be the solution?

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

3 minutes ago, HRSchenker said:

I will never understand the opposition to charter schools. No sense in keeping kids in failing schools. More funding has never translated to better outcomes so why is throwing more money at a school thought to be the solution?

Don't let DanRydell hear this.  He'll tell ya all about all the studies showing chapter schools suck, and don't work...  My Money is on the national teachers union funding the research.

[StassneyHorn 6635]

25 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

I heard a question asked about a beating heart and her answer indicated she was in the treatment room.  Did I not hear her correctly.  Why would someone not in the treatment room be asked those kinds of questions ?

"not intact, not attached to anything. Beating independently" at 1:33?

He's asking physiological questions about umbilical chords pulsating that a technician isn't going to have definite answers for an 8 week old fetus. He then asks hypotheticals on an 18 week fetus that she doesn't have definitive knowledge on cause shes not a physician and not in the room. It is said multiple times she is not in the OR. 

We're watching the same thing but youre having a take-away that I'm not understanding how you arrive at.

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

2 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

"not intact, not attached to anything. Beating independently" at 1:33?

He's asking physiological questions about umbilical chords pulsating that a technician isn't going to have definite answers for an 8 week old fetus. He then asks hypotheticals on an 18 week fetus that she doesn't have definitive knowledge on cause shes not a physician and not in the room. It is said multiple times she is not in the OR. 

We're watching the same thing but youre having a take-away that I'm not understanding how you arrive at.

I was semi watching it, and working on a sketch so not really paying 100% attention. I made the assumption someone asking procedural questions would be doing it to someone actually participating in that procedure.

[Helobious 9464]

3 hours ago, HRSchenker said:

I will never understand the opposition to charter schools. No sense in keeping kids in failing schools. More funding has never translated to better outcomes so why is throwing more money at a school thought to be the solution?

My friend taught 2 years at an IDEA middle school here in SA. Apparently the principal or someone decided to entirely scrap science classes & lessons for a whole grade level (7th iirc) because they did not have to take a STAAR test for it that year. So no 7th graders took in any science content for a semester, maybe the whole year. They were also big on selling the fact that they performed better than SAISD & Edgewood (possibly two of the lowest performing districts in the state) but never liked to mention that the school performed far below some of the better public school districts in the city. So don’t just automatically assume every charter is better than every public school, do research.

[Guest]

9 hours ago, HRSchenker said:

I will never understand the opposition to charter schools. No sense in keeping kids in failing schools. More funding has never translated to better outcomes so why is throwing more money at a school thought to be the solution?

Your own confusion confuses you... throwing money in another direction.  And the discussion isn't really about anyone advocating increasing taxes and throwing MORE money at the issue; but rather to maintain what funding there is for publics.

Why not be an active parent and make the school a better place for your community?   I know the answer...  will you admit it?

Edited July 14, 2020 by slorch

[GRHorn 105]

13 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Great. Should PUF funds be diverted from the University of Texas to Rice, Vanderbilt and Harvard?

First of all no to Harvard and Vanderbilt as out of state entities. So Rice. Idk. How has the University of Texas been doing? Especially with minorities. 
 

13 hours ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

The public option stripped during the Obamacare deliberations say hi. It's embarrassing watching conservatives still cling to this image of belief in the omnipotence of competition with their pants around their ankles.

 

“Omnipotence of competition”? 

I think competition more often than not helps improve performance. Apply it to pretty much any situation in life. It’s a pretty basic concept. 

If you have a public good that’s measurably underperformed for decades, then the public has a right to look for ways to improves their return on their tax revenues. 
 

[Bozo_Casanova 26540]

2 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

First of all no to Harvard and Vanderbilt as out of state entities. So Rice. Idk. How has the University of Texas been doing? Especially with minorities. 

I’ll go one better- should PUF money be redirected from the University of Texas to Huston-Tillotson?

[workswithseed 2110]

14 hours ago, StassneyHorn said:

What do you think about it?

What does she mean that the heart isn't attached, but is still beating, but also the "fetus" is dead?

[JBJ 3664]

58 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

I’ll go one better- should PUF money be redirected from the University of Texas to Huston-Tillotson?

A closer analogy would be should a student be allowed to receive a public scholarship at Huston instead of UT. 

Edited July 14, 2020 by JBJ

[StassneyHorn 6635]

14 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

What does she mean that the heart isn't attached, but is still beating, but also the "fetus" is dead?

I’d guess, but I’m not going to post something I have no knowledge on. If a medical professional on here wants to expand feel free.

[Bozo_Casanova 26540]

39 minutes ago, JBJ said:

A closer analogy would be should a student be allowed to receive a public scholarship at Huston instead of UT. 

No, not really, but either way. 

[Chad Fuck 17758]

23 hours ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

I'd agree, but the public School systems fuck the kids over by paying out huge salaries to admin. people who don't Really do shit in the way of actual teaching or getting anything made better.  Our state capitol city has a graduation rate of less than 76%, and pays its admins more than most any other in the state.   Schools are literally, yes literally falling down around kids heads in the city, and the city mayor wants a huge bond to build a new sports arena...

School starts at home, if parents aren't involved daily then it doesn't matter what gets spent however.  At risk kids need something different happening in their lives to make them engage in school, even if parents aren't totally involved.

 There's a large black, socio economic underclass in the city, and that contributes to the low graduation rate, and lack of parental involvement unfortunately. Kinda hard to prioritize schools when you barely make enough to feed your family, or as a single parent without a job, or you're away working all the time, and can't spend time with your kids making them perform academically.

If you're arguing that the current system needs improvement, which it sounds like you are, there are many discussion to be had in this regard.  I'd likely agree with you on many points there, many of which you've outlined.  

But nothing you've said is an argument for taking public tax funds away from public schools and reallocating them to private schools, often with little oversight.  

 

[Continental Op 3934]

50 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

What does she mean that the heart isn't attached, but is still beating, but also the "fetus" is dead?

Have you never seen Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom?

[FondrenRoad 4378]

1 hour ago, GRHorn said:

First of all no to Harvard and Vanderbilt as out of state entities. So Rice. Idk. How has the University of Texas been doing? Especially with minorities. 
 

“Omnipotence of competition”? 

I think competition more often than not helps improve performance. Apply it to pretty much any situation in life. It’s a pretty basic concept. 

If you have a public good that’s measurably underperformed for decades, then the public has a right to look for ways to improves their return on their tax revenues. 
 

 

1 hour ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

I’ll go one better- should PUF money be redirected from the University of Texas to Huston-Tillotson?

They can take aggy's share.

[Chad Fuck 17758]

They can take aggy's share.

Something we can all agree upon.

[Rougarou 594]

11 hours ago, Helobious said:

My friend taught 2 years at an IDEA middle school here in SA. Apparently the principal or someone decided to entirely scrap science classes & lessons for a whole grade level (7th iirc) because they did not have to take a STAAR test for it that year. So no 7th graders took in any science content for a semester, maybe the whole year. They were also big on selling the fact that they performed better than SAISD & Edgewood (possibly two of the lowest performing districts in the state) but never liked to mention that the school performed far below some of the better public school districts in the city. So don’t just automatically assume every charter is better than every public school, do research.

Everyone has their own experiences, so far be it for me to tell this guy who loves charter schools that they are crap, but my experience is more closely resembling yours in that they are shady/crappy and I would not trust them with my children.

[JBJ 3664]

11 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

No, not really, but either way. 

Yes, really.  This is in the context of parents/students directing the public funding for their incremental cost to a school of their choice.  That's much closer to using a public scholarship at Huston.

[Bozo_Casanova 26540]

7 minutes ago, JBJ said:

Yes, really.  This is in the context of parents/students directing the public funding for their incremental cost to a school of their choice.  That's much closer to using a public scholarship at Huston.

You apparently don't think the provenance of the funds matters and and long as we can agree that the funds are provided by the public and are otherwise dedicated to a discrete public entity I'm fine with that.  Should funds be taken from the University of Texas system be used to provide scholarships to Huston Tillotson at the discretion of the recipient?

Edited July 14, 2020 by Bozo_Casanova

[Wulaw Horn 19151]

12 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

You apparently don't think the provenance of the funds matters and and long as we can agree that the funds are provided by the public and are otherwise dedicated to a discrete public entity I'm fine with that.  Should funds be taken from the University of Texas system be used to provide scholarships to Huston Tillotson at the discretion of the recipient?

I mean, maybe? If there is some sort of compelling state interest or you could prove to me that it had a measurable impact in benefiting the student and the institutions then sure... I think?

I'm not for hand outs to upper and upper middle class school districts that are performing well. I'm all in favor of anything we can do to help poor people out of terrible performing schools through whatever mechanism you want to come up with. I don't have any interest in putting a gun to anyone's head and making them do that if the don't want to, but I sure would like to see choice where we can have it.

[workswithseed 2110]

1 hour ago, StassneyHorn said:

I’d guess, but I’m not going to post something I have no knowledge on. If a medical professional on here wants to expand feel free.

@ChiTownDoc @Sawbonz @trauma babe @GRHorn

If y'all wouldn't mind explain the question at hand of how a heart beats, it isn't attached, and the "fetus" is dead? The only thing I can think of is brain dead, but technically that wouldn't be dead. 

[Bozo_Casanova 26540]

33 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

I mean, maybe? If there is some sort of compelling state interest or you could prove to me that it had a measurable impact in benefiting the student and the institutions then sure... I think?

I'm not for hand outs to upper and upper middle class school districts that are performing well. I'm all in favor of anything we can do to help poor people out of terrible performing schools through whatever mechanism you want to come up with. I don't have any interest in putting a gun to anyone's head and making them do that if the don't want to, but I sure would like to see choice where we can have it.

That's my question to @JBJ and @GRHorn. I oppose sending public money to private schools. Is there a compelling state interest? You tell me. And can one of you prove to me that doing so would do more good than harm?

Also, I disagree with the premise embedded in your response and this whole issue, really - that a lack of cost pressure at the campus level is the fundamental problem with schools in poor and minority neighborhoods that education policy can address, which is really what we are talking about.
I'm for innovation at the district level, including some public charters, depending on the specifics. But just giving away public money to a select few kids while others are deprived of the opportunity to succeed is bad policy that makes it harder for poor kids to improve their station. 

Edited July 14, 2020 by Bozo_Casanova

[JBJ 3664]

7 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

You apparently don't think the provenance of the funds matters and and long as we can agree that the funds are provided by the public and are otherwise dedicated to a discrete public entity I'm fine with that.  Should funds be taken from the University of Texas system be used to provide scholarships to Huston Tillotson at the discretion of the recipient?

I do care about the provenance of the funds.  That's exactly the distinction that I'm making.

We already do this.  State funding is allocated on a student attendence basis (with adjustments for district wealth).  As often happens on the recruiting board, if/when a recruit transfers to, say, Allen HS or Skyline HS, they are already taking a school voucher with them.  We just don't call it that.

So it's much closer to a student staying on a public scholarship while they transfer to Huston.

[clapclapclap 9000]

Centrist, but close enough for the Woke Purge:

https://www.bariweiss.com/resignation-letter

Spoiler

Dear A.G.,

It is with sadness that I write to tell you that I am resigning from The New York Times. 

I joined the paper with gratitude and optimism three years ago. I was hired with the goal of bringing in voices that would not otherwise appear in your pages: first-time writers, centrists, conservatives and others who would not naturally think of The Times as their home. The reason for this effort was clear: The paper’s failure to anticipate the outcome of the 2016 election meant that it didn’t have a firm grasp of the country it covers. Dean Baquet and others have admitted as much on various occasions. The priority in Opinion was to help redress that critical shortcoming.

I was honored to be part of that effort, led by James Bennet. I am proud of my work as a writer and as an editor. Among those I helped bring to our pages: the Venezuelan dissident Wuilly Arteaga; the Iranian chess champion Dorsa Derakhshani; and the Hong Kong Christian democrat Derek Lam. Also: Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Masih Alinejad, Zaina Arafat, Elna Baker, Rachael Denhollander, Matti Friedman, Nick Gillespie, Heather Heying, Randall Kennedy, Julius Krein, Monica Lewinsky, Glenn Loury, Jesse Singal, Ali Soufan, Chloe Valdary, Thomas Chatterton Williams, Wesley Yang, and many others.

But the lessons that ought to have followed the election—lessons about the importance of understanding other Americans, the necessity of resisting tribalism, and the centrality of the free exchange of ideas to a democratic society—have not been learned. Instead, a new consensus has emerged in the press, but perhaps especially at this paper: that truth isn’t a process of collective discovery, but an orthodoxy already known to an enlightened few whose job is to inform everyone else.

Twitter is not on the masthead of The New York Times. But Twitter has become its ultimate editor. As the ethics and mores of that platform have become those of the paper, the paper itself has increasingly become a kind of performance space. Stories are chosen and told in a way to satisfy the narrowest of audiences, rather than to allow a curious public to read about the world and then draw their own conclusions. I was always taught that journalists were charged with writing the first rough draft of history. Now, history itself is one more ephemeral thing molded to fit the needs of a predetermined narrative.

My own forays into Wrongthink have made me the subject of constant bullying by colleagues who disagree with my views. They have called me a Nazi and a racist; I have learned to brush off comments about how I’m “writing about the Jews again.” Several colleagues perceived to be friendly with me were badgered by coworkers. My work and my character are openly demeaned on company-wide Slack channels where masthead editors regularly weigh in. There, some coworkers insist I need to be rooted out if this company is to be a truly “inclusive” one, while others post ax emojis next to my name. Still other New York Times employees publicly smear me as a liar and a bigot on Twitter with no fear that harassing me will be met with appropriate action. They never are.

There are terms for all of this: unlawful discrimination, hostile work environment, and constructive discharge. I’m no legal expert. But I know that this is wrong. 

I do not understand how you have allowed this kind of behavior to go on inside your company in full view of the paper’s entire staff and the public. And I certainly can’t square how you and other Times leaders have stood by while simultaneously praising me in private for my courage. Showing up for work as a centrist at an American newspaper should not require bravery.

Part of me wishes I could say that my experience was unique. But the truth is that intellectual curiosity—let alone risk-taking—is now a liability at The Times. Why edit something challenging to our readers, or write something bold only to go through the numbing process of making it ideologically kosher, when we can assure ourselves of job security (and clicks) by publishing our 4000th op-ed arguing that Donald Trump is a unique danger to the country and the world? And so self-censorship has become the norm.

What rules that remain at The Times are applied with extreme selectivity. If a person’s ideology is in keeping with the new orthodoxy, they and their work remain unscrutinized. Everyone else lives in fear of the digital thunderdome. Online venom is excused so long as it is directed at the proper targets. 

Op-eds that would have easily been published just two years ago would now get an editor or a writer in serious trouble, if not fired. If a piece is perceived as likely to inspire backlash internally or on social media, the editor or writer avoids pitching it. If she feels strongly enough to suggest it, she is quickly steered to safer ground. And if, every now and then, she succeeds in getting a piece published that does not explicitly promote progressive causes, it happens only after every line is carefully massaged, negotiated and caveated.

It took the paper two days and two jobs to say that the Tom Cotton op-ed “fell short of our standards.” We attached an editor’s note on a travel story about Jaffa shortly after it was published because it “failed to touch on important aspects of Jaffa’s makeup and its history.” But there is still none appended to Cheryl Strayed’s fawning interview with the writer Alice Walker, a proud anti-Semite who believes in lizard Illuminati. 

The paper of record is, more and more, the record of those living in a distant galaxy, one whose concerns are profoundly removed from the lives of most people. This is a galaxy in which, to choose just a few recent examples, the Soviet space program is lauded for its “diversity”; the doxxing of teenagers in the name of justice is condoned; and the worst caste systems in human history includes the United States alongside Nazi Germany.

Even now, I am confident that most people at The Times do not hold these views. Yet they are cowed by those who do. Why? Perhaps because they believe the ultimate goal is righteous. Perhaps because they believe that they will be granted protection if they nod along as the coin of our realm—language—is degraded in service to an ever-shifting laundry list of right causes. Perhaps because there are millions of unemployed people in this country and they feel lucky to have a job in a contracting industry. 

Or perhaps it is because they know that, nowadays, standing up for principle at the paper does not win plaudits. It puts a target on your back. Too wise to post on Slack, they write to me privately about the “new McCarthyism” that has taken root at the paper of record.

All this bodes ill, especially for independent-minded young writers and editors paying close attention to what they’ll have to do to advance in their careers. Rule One: Speak your mind at your own peril. Rule Two: Never risk commissioning a story that goes against the narrative. Rule Three: Never believe an editor or publisher who urges you to go against the grain. Eventually, the publisher will cave to the mob, the editor will get fired or reassigned, and you’ll be hung out to dry.

For these young writers and editors, there is one consolation. As places like The Times and other once-great journalistic institutions betray their standards and lose sight of their principles, Americans still hunger for news that is accurate, opinions that are vital, and debate that is sincere. I hear from these people every day. “An independent press is not a liberal ideal or a progressive ideal or a democratic ideal. It’s an American ideal,” you said a few years ago. I couldn’t agree more. America is a great country that deserves a great newspaper. 

None of this means that some of the most talented journalists in the world don’t still labor for this newspaper. They do, which is what makes the illiberal environment especially heartbreaking. I will be, as ever, a dedicated reader of their work. But I can no longer do the work that you brought me here to do—the work that Adolph Ochs described in that famous 1896 statement: “to make of the columns of The New York Times a forum for the consideration of all questions of public importance, and to that end to invite intelligent discussion from all shades of opinion.”

Ochs’s idea is one of the best I’ve encountered. And I’ve always comforted myself with the notion that the best ideas win out. But ideas cannot win on their own. They need a voice. They need a hearing. Above all, they must be backed by people willing to live by them. 

Sincerely,

Bari

 

[Bozo_Casanova 26540]

1 minute ago, JBJ said:

I do care about the provenance of the funds.  That's exactly the distinction that I'm making.

We already do this.  State funding is allocated on a student attendence basis (with adjustments for district wealth).  As often happens on the recruiting board, if/when a recruit transfers to, say, Allen HS or Skyline HS, they are already taking a school voucher with them.  We just don't call it that.

So it's much closer to a student staying on a public scholarship while they transfer to Huston.

Again, fine. But we're not talking about taking money from Sunset to Skyline. We're talking about taking it from DISD to St Marks or TCA.

[JimmyJames 12271]

From my experience, charter schools are not as bad of an idea as private prisons or the Iraq war, but they’re in the same ballpark. Just more wasted money thrown down the hole giving rich republicans money sucking off the government tit. Nonprofit my ass. 

[hobbes2702 13065]

4 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

From my experience, charter schools are not as bad of an idea as private prisons or the Iraq war, but they’re in the same ballpark. Just more wasted money thrown down the hole giving rich republicans money sucking off the government tit. Nonprofit my ass. 

It’s another grift

[elfenix 34332]

18 minutes ago, clapclapclap said:

It took the paper two days and two jobs to say that the Tom Cotton op-ed “fell short of our standards.”

these people are so desperate to be woke that they don't see what genius it was to get a potential presidential candidate in 2024/28/etc to self-administer a poison pill?  twitter can be walked back with social media intern blah blah.  a whole column in the NYT?  nope. 

[F250 28817]

12 hours ago, Helobious said:

My friend taught 2 years at an IDEA middle school here in SA. Apparently the principal or someone decided to entirely scrap science classes & lessons for a whole grade level (7th iirc) because they did not have to take a STAAR test for it that year. So no 7th graders took in any science content for a semester, maybe the whole year. They were also big on selling the fact that they performed better than SAISD & Edgewood (possibly two of the lowest performing districts in the state) but never liked to mention that the school performed far below some of the better public school districts in the city. So don’t just automatically assume every charter is better than every public school, do research.

From what I've heard the charter schools can be a real hit and miss depending on which one you select. I know a guy who pulled his kids from SAISD and sent them to a charter. He said that the real benefit was that the classes were smaller and the school weeded out students so there were not a lot of behavioral issues. He eventually moved and his kids switched back to an NEISD public school (Johnson HS area). Apparently the NEISD school was better than the charter but the charter was a lot better than the SAISD school.

In some cases it seems that the charters are a decent stop-gap measure.

It's easy for some of us to argue against school choice while our kids attend good public schools or private schools but there are a lot of kids in some shittastic public schools that could use an escape exit.

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11669]

 

20 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

From my experience, charter schools are not as bad of an idea as private prisons or the Iraq war, but they’re in the same ballpark. Just more wasted money thrown down the hole giving rich republicans money sucking off the government tit. Nonprofit my ass. 

 

16 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

It’s another grift

 

lulz at this board. if you're in austin i can arrange a tour of one for you.